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Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 6:46pm On Jul 16, 2025
Lionessza6:
They are covetous of their current position. They want to be the new black Americans without having gone through what it means to be a black American. Short cut tendencies.
Nope, I disagree. They only want to work and succeed without association with the ghetto and baby daddy culture of the black Americans. I always tell my kids they are Nigerians and never black Americans.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lionessza6(f): 6:53pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I think you have some irrational hatred for other Africans and I find it difficult to understand why?

Africans in diaspora worked their butts off to become successful abroad and nothing was handed over to them free of charge. Also, most Africans live in their own countries so I don't get your point.
IWestern countries were also built by whites not just the black Americans so, I owe the black Americans nothing.
Here comes the usual victims card .

You didn't understand what I saying.

The black immigrants would've never been able to enjoy any of the career prospects they enjoy today in USA if black Americans didn't fight for recognition and inclusions. And yes ,you're riding on the back of their successful struggle.
And no ,you don't owe them but you'll never be allowed to discredit and try to put yourselves above or on their level in America . You had no part in building that country, you went there because it was prosperous and part of that prosperity was built on the blacks of those native Blacks you love to discredit NOT BLACK IMMIGRANTS!

Who is talking about whites here ? grin.
It goes without say that the Anglo saxon empire was the architect of both USA and SA ,but the blacks and other groups executed their plan. They were the ones who did the actual hardwork .

If you were honest you'd be looking at black migrants in Canada and Australia, why are they not as successful as their Indian and Chinese counterparts? grin grin. Because they had no blacks to polish the floor for them there . They have to fight for recognition first .
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 7:03pm On Jul 16, 2025
Lionessza6:
LMAO. I love that you hate it when they are condescending to you but you have absolutely no problem doing it grin grin grin

Up Naija boy grin grin grin
I hate it when they take no responsibility fir their own problems and looking for who to blame. They blame the whites, blame the Hispanics, blame immigrants and now blame Nigerians in diaspora.

SSame wa I see SAs blame immigrants for their problems whole their police collect bribes and loot immigrants shops. I have a video of these that I can show you if you want.
I bought two houses within my first three years abroad while lots of black Americans sit on their lazy asses relying on handouts from the government. I am able to save a cash of about $250,000 in accounts while these people are busy complaining. I worked my butt off in the cold to get where I am today and do not look down or condescend to anyone.
Now, I will never join in any BLM movement, never speak out when a black American is being oppressed. I am now all for my country and no one else.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op):
Lionessza6:
Here comes the usual victims card .

You didn't understand what I saying.

The black immigrants would've never been able to enjoy any of the career prospects they enjoy today in USA if black Americans didn't fight for recognition and inclusions. And yes ,you're riding on the back of their successful struggle.
And no ,you don't owe them but you'll never be allowed to discredit and try to put yourselves above or on their level in America . You had no part in building that country, you went there because it was prosperous and part of that prosperity was built on the blacks of those native Blacks you love to discredit NOT BLACK IMMIGRANTS!

Who is talking about whites here ? grin.
It goes without say that the Anglo saxon empire was the architect of both USA and SA ,but the blacks and other groups executed their plan. They were the ones who did the actual hardwork .

If you were honest you'd be looking at black migrants in Canada and Australia, why are they not as successful as their Indian and Chinese counterparts? grin grin. Because they had no blacks to polish the floor for them there . They have to fight for recognition first .
What about black immigrants succeeding in Canada and Europe, is that a result of Black Americans also?

Why do we have large seats of ghettos in the US with lots of black Americans living in crime and abject penury? Where is their so called hard work and building America.

Even the Chinese immigrants buit America without making noise.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 7:52pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
What about black immigrants succeeding in Canada and Europe, is that a result of Black Americans also?

Why do we have large seats of ghettos in the US with lots of black Americans living in crime and abject penury? Where is their so called hard work and building America.

Even the Chinese immigrants buit America without making noise.
Black Americans don't usually leave their country. Most are poor with passports. Do you have an example of black Americans succeeding in Canada or Europe?
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 8:54pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
My concern is black Americans trying to twist and rewrite history by claiming their forefathers were never from Africa. They are now claiming to be Foundational Black Americans with the status of Native Americans.
It affects me because I am an of African kn diaspora.
To be me black Americans forefathers are long gone from Africa.

Why do they not ask White Europeans about their own ancestry, they also did not just appear in America, they came from Europe.

I think trying to tell them they are from Africa is trying strip them of their American identity.

They are not Africans but Americans, they have no culture similar to ours and we do not eat or behave similarly.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lionessza6(f): 8:55pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Black Americans don't usually leave their country. Most are poor with passports. Do you have an example of black Americans succeeding in Canada or Europe?
LMAO. This ? grin grin
The poorest blacks in the world reside in Nigeria friend, incase you forgot grin. And they are in full control of their destiny without any white supremacist disturbances grin. I wonder why their country is one of the least developed among the biggest oil producers ....wait 🤔....

The most educated and rich are busy beefing natives elsewhere instead of fixing their dominant environment that will bring them some pride instead of flexing with nothingness grin grin

Most Americans including the whites have never even lived in another state inside the very America and yet their living standards are still above 99.9% of your population grin grin grin
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 8:57pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
What about black immigrants succeeding in Canada and Europe, is that a result of Black Americans also?

Why do we have large seats of ghettos in the US with lots of black Americans living in crime and abject penury? Where is their so called hard work and building America.

Even the Chinese immigrants buit America without making noise.
That is a lie...you only watch tv.

Blacks have 17.1% of poverty.

In Nigeria it is like 60%

Black immigrants are not more successful than African Americans, do not let TV deceive you.

Btw, blacks have been in the US before the Chinese.

The cheap labour of blacks built America.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 9:00pm On Jul 16, 2025
motymop:
That is a lie...you only watch tv.

Blacks have 17.1% of poverty.

In Nigeria it is like 60%

Black immigrants are not more successful than African Americans, do not let TV deceive you.

Btw, blacks have been in the US before the Chinese.

The cheap labour of blacks built America.
So other immigrants did not buid Ameruca, only the black Americans right? Keep telling yourself lies if it makes you feel good with yourself.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 9:01pm On Jul 16, 2025
Lionessza6:
LMAO. This ? grin grin
The poorest blacks in the world reside in Nigeria friend, incase you forgot grin. And they are in full control of their destiny without any white supremacist disturbances grin. I wonder why their country is one of the least developed among the biggest oil producers ....wait 🤔....

The most educated and rich are busy beefing natives elsewhere instead of fixing their dominant environment that will bring them some pride instead of flexing with nothingness grin grin

Most Americans including the whites have never even lived in another state inside the very America and yet their living standards are still above 99.9% of your population grin grin grin
The richest black in the world also reside in Nigeria. I know you selecively forgot about that. Could it be amnesia ?
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 9:05pm On Jul 16, 2025
motymop:
To be me black Americans forefathers are long gone from Africa.

Why do they not ask White Europeans about their own ancestry, they also did not just appear in America, they came from Europe.

I think trying to tell them they are from Africa is trying strip them of their American identity.

They are not Africans but Americans, they have no culture similar to ours and we do not eat or behave similarly.
They claim they have no root in Africa and really insulting us Africans in Diaspora, go look up the videos on TikTok Tok.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lionessza6(f): 9:06pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I hate it when they take no responsibility fir their own problems and looking for who to blame. They blame the whites, blame the Hispanics, blame immigrants and now blame Nigerians in diaspora.

SSame wa I see SAs blame immigrants for their problems whole their police collect bribes and loot immigrants shops. I have a video of these that I can show you if you want.
I bought two houses within my first three years abroad while lots of black Americans sit on their lazy asses relying on handouts from the government. I am able to save a cash of about $250,000 in accounts while these people are busy complaining. I worked my butt off in the cold to get where I am today and do not look down or condescend to anyone.
Now, I will never join in any BLM movement, never speak out when a black American is being oppressed. I am now all for my country and no one else.
Well, No black American owns any houses around America and holiday houses in countries like South Africa, nope!! All of them are in jail or poor grin grin. And you wonder why they Want no association with the type of Blacks you are ? grin grin

I came on thod thread to out you. You were projecting your real feelings on to them. I exposed you as the real hater and envious being grin. You hate your migrant status Over there and ofcourse you want to take it out on people that look like you grin grin. White people are also guilty of all the things you claim are black American faults ...but Nope!! You know your target grin. You thought you were going to be their replacement only to find yourselves the new under class with no political power whatsoever grin.

Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 9:08pm On Jul 16, 2025
Lionessza6:
Well, No black American owns any houses around America and holiday houses in countries like South Africa, nope!! All of them are in jail or poor grin grin. And you wonder why they Want no association with the type of Blacks you are ? grin grin

I came on thod thread to out you. You were projecting your real feelings on to them. I exposed you as the real hater and envious being grin. You hate your migrant status Over there and ofcourse you want to take it out on people that look like you grin grin. White people are also guilty of all the things you claim are black American faults ...but Nope!! You know your target grin. You thought you were going to be their replacement only to find yourselves the new under class with no political power whatsoever grin.
I believe I won't be able to have an objective conversation with you because of your bias and hatred for Nigerians and other African countries. I rest my case.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lionessza6(f): 9:09pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
The richest black in the world also reside in Nigeria. I know you selecively forgot about that. Could it be amnesia ?
Dangote is one man grin grin... we are talking about the highest concentration of black dollar millionaires. ( better distributed wealth among the populace) wink
Black Americans lead. You aren't even first here in Africa, guess which blacks lead ? grin grin grin
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by KingCold: 9:17pm On Jul 16, 2025
Lionessza6:
Dangote is one man grin grin... we are talking about the highest concentration of black dollar millionaires. ( better distributed wealth among the populace) wink
Black Americans lead. You aren't even first here in Africa, guess which blacks lead ? grin grin grin
grin grin Aha!
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 9:38pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
They claim they have no root in Africa and really insulting us Africans in Diaspora, go look up the videos on TikTok Tok.
The truth is that they have no root in Africa.

Slavery started long time ago almost like 400 years ago...so how then do you expect these blacks in America who have been far removed from Africa for 400 years should now be African.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 9:42pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
The richest black in the world also reside in Nigeria. I know you selecively forgot about that. Could it be amnesia ?
That is one man.

Look at this stats.

The spending power of black Americans is $1.6 trillion while the spending power of Africa is almost similar.

Do you know what means, they are richer than every Africans.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 9:44pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
So other immigrants did not buid Ameruca, only the black Americans right? Keep telling yourself lies if it makes you feel good with yourself.
Black American started all the building since 400 years ago due to cheap labour.

The truth is many foreigners work in the US and send the money back home.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 9:49pm On Jul 16, 2025
Samantha125:
Africa is in the state that it is because the West is still in charge and exploiting our resources for their own benefit... And our leaders are unfortunately their puppets.

The West would normally look for a third world country that has resources and the African continent is obviously rich in natural resources... They'd then get a loan from the World Bank under the guise of developing the country's economy, only for the money to go into their own corporations within that country, benefitting only the rich and leaving the entire country not only in poverty, but also in a huge debt, resulting in Africa being forever indebted to the West.

In short, the poorer we get, the richer the West gets... They're benefitting from our poverty and are doing everything in their power to ensure that Africa stays poor and indebted to them... America is also a beneficiary.
African isn't under colonialism and it is not because of the west Africa is poor

The problem is that talented people aren't leading.

Do you know why Europe or American is successful because they are progressive.

The talented are the ones leading, they also have a school and universities where they produce more talented people who then go on to become leaders and changers in society.

Here in Nigeria, the talentless are the ones ruling, we do not have elite universities where the talented go to and graduate from. What we have here are clan men leading us.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 9:49pm On Jul 16, 2025
motymop:
Black American started all the building since 400 years ago due to cheap labour.

The truth is many foreigners work in the US and send the money back home.
They worked mostly on plantations picking cottons
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 9:50pm On Jul 16, 2025
motymop:
That is one man.

Look at this stats.

The spending power of black Americans is $1.6 trillion while the spending power of Africa is almost similar.

Do you know what means, they are richer than every Africans.
I will like the source for this?
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by motymop: 9:51pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
I will like the source for this?
You can type it on Google, if I post links here I might get banned
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Nnamdipapa(op): 9:53pm On Jul 16, 2025
motymop:
You can type it on Google, if I post links here I might get banned
Meaning you have no verifyable source for your statisand I am supposed to accept them as facts. Ok I understand.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Samantha125(f): 9:54pm On Jul 16, 2025
Okay, if you say so.
motymop:
African isn't under colonialism and it is not because of the west Africa is poor

The problem is that talented people aren't leading.

Do you know why Europe or American is successful because they are progressive.

The talented are the ones leading, they also have a school and universities where they produce more talented people who then go on to become leaders and changers in society.

Here in Nigeria, the talentless are the ones ruling, we do not have elite universities where the talented go to and graduate from. What we have here are clan men leading us.
Re: How factual is the concept - Foundational Black Americans by Lioness5280(f): 9:58pm On Jul 16, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Meaning you have no verifyable source for your statisand I am supposed to accept them as facts. Ok I understand.
Can you show us the title deeds to all the properties you own over there grin
I don't doubt you ,but since you felt the need to mention it on a Public forum ,I don't think you'll mind 🤷‍♂️ grin
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