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Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by tctrills: 3:01pm On Jul 17, 2025
Deepspirituals:
Thou Shall Not Kill,Does Judgement for Killing Applies to Military Men.
One more verse from the bible.
John 18:36
“My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight…”
Here, Jesus Christ clearly explained that the reason why His servants would not fight was because His kingdom is not of this world, but for Kings and Presidents with earthly kingdoms, from the statement of Christ, it is 100% accepted if they command their servants to war.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 9:51pm On Jul 18, 2025
tctrills:
One more verse from the bible.
John 18:36
“My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight…”
Here, Jesus Christ clearly explained that the reason why His servants would not fight was because His kingdom is not of this world, but for Kings and Presidents with earthly kingdoms, from the statement of Christ, it is 100% accepted if they command their servants to war.
I admire your tenacity 👌—You Sha no wan gree for Max🤣. We need more people like you on this platform 👀! Keep up the good work, bro. God bless!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Deepspirituals(op): 10:22pm On Jul 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
I admire your tenacity 👌—You Sha no wan gree for Max🤣. We need more people like you on this platform 👀! Keep up the good work, bro. God bless!
dat Maxin D words are always words of confusion I just Blocked him.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m):
Deepspirituals:
dat Maxin D words are always words of confusion I just Blocked him.
You can never forget MaxInDHouse as my comments will continue to hunt you because it's the truth. For your information i choose to avoid you not that you block me in anyway!

Isaiah said:
Woe to those who say that good is bad and bad is good, Those who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, Those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20

Confusion is when you know what is good but chose evil because that's what people around you welcome.
There is no reason for war when people are obediently adhering to the guidance from the same source war is the result of two opposing sides dragging authority so one commander issues the order for his army to war against another but now you guys are talking about worshipers of the same God who supposed to be the supreme ruler yet you still feel war is possible in such atmosphere! embarassed
Please what is the purpose of a supreme ruler if peace is not the goal?

Well let it be known today that disorder is what brings about war but if you people truly believe in one supreme being such one should be relegated when he/she can't maintain orderliness.

God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all meetings of God’s people! 1Corinthans 14:33
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:38am On Jul 19, 2025
tctrills:
You couldn't even provide a single verse that shows God's displeasure with military killings in war.
But we both know that there are tens of verses where God shows support for such killings.
But let me provide one. In the book of Esther, the people of God obeyed the decree of an infidel king and went on a killing spree that was divinely approved.
This tells us that even under the command of nonbelievers, christians have a duty to fight for their nation.
The highlighted shows you don't even know what you are saying!

First of all did God's people got involved in killing their fellow worshipers in that war?

Secondly which nation belongs to Christians today since Jesus said his kingdom is no part of the world?

Lastly which nation can you pick up weapons against that you won't kill your fellow believers there?

You people don't study God's word you only read!

Jesus said:

“Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” John 4:21-24

Before Jesus' God's people used to fight in defense of Jerusalem not because of their properties but to protect the Temple and those officiating inside it in fact a faithful Israelite will leave his own house to fight to protect God's temple in Jerusalem believing that when he dies it's for a just course but from the moment Jesus uttered that statement all believers in God and Christ realized that there is no holy land to fight for anymore and instead of fighting to protect any nation true Christians look for ways to hide their fellow worshipers who may be attacked by faithless people seeking to kill due to racism but for true believers to raise weapons against their fellow believers because a politician issued such an order?
Ọmọ we will obey God as our king rather than man. Act 5:29
Jesus God's only begotten Son has issued the order that we must not kill be it friend or foe! Matthew 26:52
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 6:42am On Jul 19, 2025
tctrills:
Can a civil servant have 2 kings? Should we also assume that Christians can't work in the civil service? In fact, if we extend your argument, the only place Christians can work will be under church employment.
This is where you see the difference between A civil servant and a soldier. The president (king) and governors (the king's ministers) and cronies of the king have already shown you that the soldiers and armed men exclusively belongs to them. Hence the statement "the chief security officer". Which is why soldiers always obey the order of the king and is under a separate law (armed forces act)

But civil servants, even though they work for the king in his offices are still like regular people and these ones can challenge the king. Which is why you see that there are a lot of cases of civil servants suing and challenging their kings.

But soldiers almost cannot.

Thus a Christian knows that the first Law of God is to recognise that He Truly is the King and He is The Owner and Ruler of this world, and all others are either low lords appointed by him or bandits and coupists (like jack sparrow did to Blackbeard) who have stolen power.

Meanwhile King God either gives us work or gives us the freedom to work and earn anywhere PROVIDED that, that sich work is not in breach of his Rules and Laws.

So working, in the civil service is not exactly wrong. However, civil servants must bear in mind that civil service is a creation of the bandits and coupists as proven by the fact that if I want to tar a road, the bandits ruling will become like agberos saying "it is their land" meanwhile the land and earth and belongs to God Who gave all of us to use it and enjoy it together. And my tarring the road is for all of us to use,so how is it wrong and why do the bandit king's men (FG, SG and LG) stop me?

Clearly because they are trying to take God's Position and be like God (Idolatry) exactly the crime Sa.. told Eve that she could do.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by tctrills: 9:55am On Jul 19, 2025
[quote author=Dtruthspeaker post=136149862]This is where you see the difference between A civil servant and a soldier. The president (king) and governors (the king's ministers) and cronies of the king have already shown you that the soldiers and armed men exclusively belongs to them. Hence the statement "the chief security officer". Which is why soldiers always obey the order of the king and is under a separate law (armed forces act)

But civil servants, even though they work for the king in his offices are still like regular people and these ones can challenge the king. Which is why you see that there are a lot of cases of civil servants suing and challenging their kings.

Oga wait oh. Your entire point here is that because civil servants can sue the government and you believe soldiers cannot, hence God is against the army and in support of the civil service?
It's not a very logical point.
Anyway, we had many soldiers sue the Biden administration for enforcing them to take the covid vaccine. So is the US Army acceptable to God?

Clearly because they are trying to take God's Position and be like God (Idolatry) exactly the crime Sa.. told Eve that she could do.

Again, if you decide to read your Bible, you will learn that it is Gid that makes kings.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by tctrills:
The highlighted shows you don't even know what you are saying!

First of all did God's people got involved in killing their fellow worshipers in that war?

Let's not be foolish here. If your point is that you will only obey the government to kill nonbelievers, then there is no difference between you and Boko Haram. The fact of the matter here is that God's people respected and obeyed their non believer king and went to war. Are you saying that Christians are allowed to kill only nonbelievers?

Secondly which nation belongs to Christians today since Jesus said his kingdom is no part of the world?

Lastly which nation can you pick up weapons against that you won't kill your fellow believers there?

Going to war is not about killing believers or not. If you read your Bible, you will learn that the entire Israel went to war against Benjamin. This completely destroys your don't fight believers' logic.

You people don't study God's word you only read!

Jesus said:

[b]“Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.” John 4:21-24


Before Jesus' God's people used to fight in defense of Jerusalem not because of their properties but to protect the Temple and those officiating inside it in fact a faithful Israelite will leave his own house to fight to protect God's temple in Jerusalem believing that when he dies it's for a just course but from the moment Jesus uttered that statement all believers in God and Christ realized that there is no holy land to fight for anymore and instead of fighting to protect any nation true Christians look for ways to hide their fellow worshipers who may be attacked by faithless people seeking to kill due to racism but for true believers to raise weapons against their fellow believers because a politician issued such an order?
Ọmọ we will obey God as our king rather than man. Act 5:29
Jesus God's only begotten Son, has issued the order that we must not kill, be it friend or foe! Matthew 26:52
. In all the passages you quoted, we were not informed that those worshipping him worship with spirit and truth, without going to war. The verse you quoted has nothing to do with war. Please quote another verse.
True Christians fought to end slavery, to end WW2. True Christians fought to end genocides, to save lives. Do you even know what it means to be a true Christian?

Lastly, please read the verses below; let's see if the word of God can change your mind.
Romans 13:1–4
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
4 for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by tctrills: 10:14am On Jul 19, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
I admire your tenacity 👌—You Sha no wan gree for Max🤣. We need more people like you on this platform 👀! Keep up the good work, bro. God bless!
Merci beaucoup
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:19pm On Jul 19, 2025
tctrills:
Oga wait oh. Your entire point here is that because civil servants can sue the government and you believe soldiers cannot, hence God is against the army and in support of the civil service?
It's not a very logical point.
Anyway, we had many soldiers sue the Biden administration for enforcing them to take the covid vaccine. So is the US Army acceptable to God?p
Do you forget that I am a lawyer? Surely you have never read books on soldiers suing nor watched movies showing the history of soldiers and suing eg "A few good men", Rules of Engagement, High Crimes.

And all these are just recent developments.

And Obama {gay)/Trump (abuse of rights)have already proven that they can never be chosen by God!

tctrills:
Again, if you decide to read your Bible, you will learn that it is Gid that makes kings.
Again if you have read the Bible you would have seen that God told the unholy people He plucked out from all the unholy nations to clean up and make holy that they should do like the people from where He plucked them from.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Deepspirituals(op): 1:35pm On Jul 19, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Do you forget that I am a lawyer? Surely you have never read books on soldiers suing nor watched movies showing the history of soldiers and suing eg "A few good men", Rules of Engagement, High Crimes.

And all these are just recent developments.

And Obama {gay)/Trump (abuse of rights)have already proven that they can never be chosen by God!



Again if you have read the Bible you would have seen that God told the unholy people He plucked out from all the unholy nations to clean up and make holy that they should do like the people from where He plucked them from.
Hmmm ! Waoooo w These your Points Eennnnnhhh Na Wao
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 1:45pm On Jul 19, 2025
Deepspirituals:
Hmmm ! Waoooo w These your Points Eennnnnhhh Na Wao
grin This just shows that those Lawyers and pastors wey dey call themselves Christians be fake else they would have been showing people that the Bible is the greatest Law and history Book.

It's all there both the history and the development/changes.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by tctrills: 2:09pm On Jul 19, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Do you forget that I am a lawyer? Surely you have never read books on soldiers suing nor watched movies showing the history of soldiers and suing eg "A few good men", Rules of Engagement, High Crimes.

And all these are just recent developments.

And Obama {gay)/Trump (abuse of rights)have already proven that they can never be chosen by God!



Again if you have read the Bible you would have seen that God told the unholy people He plucked out from all the unholy nations to clean up and make holy that they should do like the people from where He plucked them from.
You are definitely not a very good lawyer
Please educate yourself with the info on the link below. You will learn that soldiers can sue the government. It happened during the covid vaccine enforcement.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/10/09/dod-settles-covid-vaccine-mandate-lawsuits-for-18-million/
Again you call it recent development but then again you are wrong. Can you point to any new law that allows soldiers to sue the government? The laws and constitution of America allows any citizen to take the government to court.
It is funny that our lawyer with be quoting a movie and not the constitution. Something is seriously wrong with our educational system.

God telling his people to be holy and commanding his people not to fight are 2 different things. Even the Holy ones in heaven fought a war. Many of the holy prophets fought in war. So your holiness excuses is dead on arrival.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Dtruthspeaker: 3:48pm On Jul 19, 2025
tctrills:
You are definitely not a very good lawyer
Please educate yourself with the info on the link below. You will learn that soldiers can sue the government. It happened during the covid vaccine enforcement.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/10/09/dod-settles-covid-vaccine-mandate-lawsuits-for-18-million/
Again you call it recent development but then again you are wrong
You cited 2023 that just past now now and yet you think it is not recent? You truly need the hospital.

tctrills:
Can you point to any new law that allows soldiers to sue the government? The laws and constitution of America allows any citizen to take the government to court.
It is funny that our lawyer with be quoting a movie and not the constitution. Something is seriously wrong with our educational system.
If you were truly educated then you would have known that with your free Google you would have be learning. But as I said, you never read.
See what free Google could have told you

AI Overview
The ability of soldiers to sue their employers, specifically the military, for various issues has evolved significantly over time. Initially, the legal doctrine of sovereign immunity shielded the government from most lawsuits, including those from service members.

Here's a breakdown of the historical development:
1. Sovereign Immunity and the Feres Doctrine:
Early Era:
The principle of sovereign immunity generally prevented soldiers from suing the government,


Clear you need ...
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by tctrills: 5:13pm On Jul 19, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
You cited 2023 that just past now now and yet you think it is not recent? You truly need the hospital.



If you were truly educated then you would have known that with your free Google you would have be learning. But as I said, you never read.
See what free Google could have told you

AI Overview
The ability of soldiers to sue their employers, specifically the military, for various issues has evolved significantly over time. Initially, the legal doctrine of sovereign immunity shielded the government from most lawsuits, including those from service members.

Here's a breakdown of the historical development:
1. Sovereign Immunity and the Feres Doctrine:
Early Era:
The principle of sovereign immunity generally prevented soldiers from suing the government,


Clear you need ...
Are you sure you are a lawyer oga. Please did the US change their constitution in 2023? Is it not the same old constitution they are using?
Haba even I that didn't go to law school knows your job better.
If the laws haven't been changed then it's irrelevant if I site a 2023 case or a 1556 case.
What are they teaching our kids these days.

Now, let's assume that the US amended it's constitution, are you saying that now, God is in support of the US army since like civil servants, they can sue the government?
Remember, it is because Soldiers cants sue the government that you think God hates the Army.
So does the present US army also fall under the list of Armies that God is against?
Also, do you want me to give you the list of countries where soldiers can sue the government?
Uganda
Germany
UK
USA
Canada
Does God support these armies?
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Deepspirituals(op): 5:24pm On Jul 19, 2025
All these Argument Make Una Leave this Matter to Almighty God that would Judge oooo, No Man Can Instruct God and how he would go about the Modalities of His Judgement.

I'm the Op, I felts I should just get some In Puts and this has Turned to Serious Arguments without any Objective and Constructive Comments to at least Address the Question.


Well at the same time Every Commentators have Aired there Views .. It's Well . There are Several Battles , Wars Between Those Almighty God was on there Side and those he didn't Support, Life of the Opponents Lost , Lives of the Armies , Centurions Lost , God Created them too , The same Almighty God that says Thou shall not Kill Aided and Helped those He Chooses to Supports over others .

So This is Deep , No one can question His Actions and doings . We Humans may Access it according to our Understanding but He does his Things the Way he Likes which May not Agree with our Own Judgement.

Peace.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Gabrielshow24: 9:31am On Jul 21, 2025
Deepspirituals:
All these Argument Make Una Leave this Matter to Almighty God that would Judge oooo, No Man Can Instruct God and how he would go about the Modalities of His Judgement.

I'm the Op, I felts I should just get some In Puts and this has Turned to Serious Arguments without any Objective and Constructive Comments to at least Address the Question.


Well at the same time Every Commentators have Aired there Views .. It's Well . There are Several Battles , Wars Between Those Almighty God was on there Side and those he didn't Support, Life of the Opponents Lost , Lives of the Armies , Centurions Lost , God Created them too , The same Almighty God that says Thou shall not Kill Aided and Helped those He Chooses to Supports over others .

So This is Deep , No one can question His Actions and doings . We Humans may Access it according to our Understanding but He does his Things the Way he Likes which May not Agree with our Own Judgement.

Peace.
It's based on perception, some just want to turn an instance into an absolute statement 😂, one that even contradicts their professed Michael as an hypocrite—Vio.-lent in Heaven, Peaceful on Earth.

I stand with the scriptures that "war can also be used as a form of judgement"!

Thanks, for the input😁.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Fenrir(m): 10:27pm On Oct 30, 2025
Deepspirituals:
Thou Shall Not Kill,Does Judgement for Killing Applies to Military Men.
From what the Bible itself teaches, the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” refers to murder — the deliberate and unlawful taking of innocent life. The Bible actually distinguishes between murder and killing in war or self-defense.

Soldiers in Scripture weren’t condemned simply for serving; they were told to act justly and not abuse their power. So most Christian interpretations would say that judgment for killing doesn’t fall on those who fight under lawful orders, but on those who kill out of hatred or cruelty.

Personally, I don’t follow any faith, but I understand that distinction matters to many believers.

The Biblical Distinction:

Exodus 20:13 (Hebrew and English translation):
לֹא תִּרְצָח — Lo tirtzach — “You shall not murder.”
The word tirtzach comes from ratsach, meaning to murder, to slay unlawfully, or to assassinate. It does not mean all forms of killing — the Hebrew Bible uses other words (like harag or muth) for killing in war or lawful execution.

Romans 13:3–4:
“For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil... for he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.”

This shows that using force — even lethal force — can be legitimate under lawful authority.

Luke 3:14:
“And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, ‘And what shall we do?’ And he said unto them, ‘Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages.’”

John the Baptist didn’t tell them to leave the military; he told them to act justly within it.

———

I’m a Norwegian who served in the British Royal Marines and fought in Afghanistan as a sniper. I’ve been an atheist my entire life, but I’ve always respected people’s faith and their search for meaning.

As a soldier, I don’t care what anyone says — the first duty of a soldier is to protect and save lives, and only take a life as a last resort or when ordered to. Even under orders, you always have the free will to reject them and face the consequences for doing so.

Every life you take leaves a mark. I retired seven years ago, when I was 33, and even now I still see the faces of every person I took down when I close my eyes — as clearly today as when they were in my scope back then.

Taking a life in combat is, in the moment, one of the easiest things to do — because you’re trained to detach emotionally to survive and do your job. But when it’s over, that detachment fades, and the reality of it starts to live inside you. That’s the hard part — learning to carry it afterward.

Those memories will stay with me for the rest of my life, and that’s a weight I’ve accepted. I carry it willingly because I know that the lives we saved, and the freedoms those people now have, were worth that sacrifice to me.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:10am On Oct 31, 2025
Deepspirituals:
So This is Deep , No one can question His Actions and doings . We Humans may Access it according to our Understanding but He does his Things the Way he Likes which May not Agree with our Own Judgement. Peace.
From the day God called the Israelites His people {Exodus 5:1} God made us see the purpose of wars and killings among humans.
How?
The cited verse reads:
After Moses and Aaron talked to the people, they went to Pharaoh and said, “The Lord, the God of Israel, says, ‘Let my people go into the desert so that they can have a festival to honor me.’”
From the highlighted it's clear that God only supports His worshipers not people fighting for properties the backing He is giving the Israelites is due to their readiness to become His special people {Exodus 19:5} so by the time God wants to deal with the Egyptian this is what He told the Israelites:
"You will not have to do anything but stay calm. The Lord will do the fighting for you.” Exodus 14:14
Anytime the Israelites are to go for war God will tell them what they should or shouldn't do this will serve as sign that it's not their weapons or skills that's making them winners in the fight but obedience to God's word.
So from the moment Jesus of Nazareth declared to his disciples saying:

“Believe me, woman! The time is coming when you will not have to be in Jerusalem or on this mountain to worship the Father. You Samaritans worship something you don’t understand. We Jews understand what we worship, since salvation comes from the Jews. But the time is coming when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth. In fact, that time is now here. And these are the kind of people the Father wants to be his worshipers. God is spirit. So the people who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:21-24

True believers realized that there is no reason fighting for properties or lives in any part of the world anymore because the purpose of fighting from God's viewpoint was to protect pure worship and that's what makes Him support one side against another. So Jesus told his disciples:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies. Pray for those who treat you badly. If you do this, you will be children who are truly like your Father in heaven. He lets the sun rise for all people, whether they are good or bad. He sends rain to those who do right and to those who do wrong. If you love only those who love you, why should you get a reward for that? Even the tax collectors do that. And if you are nice only to your friends, you are no better than anyone else. Even the people who don’t know God are nice to their friends. What I am saying is that you must be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:43-48

Hatred is not natural rather it stems from dragging possessions and that's what leads to WARS so Jesus told his disciples never to store possessions here on planet earth {Matthew 6:19} why because your cherished possessions will determine what you will do when it's time to obey him but if your minds are fixed on things in heaven (what God's Kingdom will do for you) you won't have any reason to disobey God's WORD claiming you are fighting for your right! Matthew 6:20-21

Today people killing people are fighting due to manipulation by Satan {Revelations 6:3-4} whose will is that nobody survives into God's Kingdom Satan wants everyone dead! John 8:44; Revelations 12:12

So whether you like it or not Satan will give you a thousand and one reason to hate, fight and kill your neighbor {Mark 12:31} and fellow believers in other countries {John 13:34-35} to prove that you don't believe (trust) what Jesus promised you as a Christian! Matthew 10:28

May you have peace!🙂
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:20am On Oct 31, 2025
Fenrir:
As a soldier, I don’t care what anyone says — the first duty of a soldier is to protect and save lives, and only take a life as a last resort or when ordered to. Even under orders, you always have the free will to reject them and face the consequences for doing so.
Why do you take orders from a human like you? undecided
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Fenrir(m): 5:23am On Oct 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Why do you take orders from a human like you? undecided
Human rights, why would I take orders from a god who clearly says im not one of his chosen people?
Read your bible better you are not one of his people.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:36am On Oct 31, 2025
Fenrir:
Human rights, why would I take orders from a god who clearly says im not one of his chosen people? Read your bible better you are not one of his people.
Obviously you don't know why you are taking orders from a human like you because instead of answering a simple question you turned around and started asking questions when i showed interest in what you said.

You said
Fenrir:
the first duty of a soldier is to protect and save lives, and only take a life as a last resort or when ordered to
This shows you've got something interesting to share but then you proved to be empty when asked a simple question!😟

If as a soldier your duty is to protect and save lives then what changed along the line so that you later thought of destroying lives again?😟

That's why i'm interested in that order from a mere human like you who now redirects your sound motive turning it against your own will?

I hope you can see the sense in this so if truly you have sound and sharp mind answer the question now because i didn't tell you i am a Christian rather you are the one who claimed to be a SOLDIER and trying to educate us on your duty as a soldier.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Fenrir(m): 6:08am On Oct 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you don't know why you are taking orders from a human like you because instead of answering a simple question you turned around and started asking questions when i showed interest in what you said.

You said

This shows you've got something interesting to share but then you proved to be empty when asked a simple question!😟

If as a soldier your duty is to protect and save lives then what changed along the line so that you later thought of destroying lives again?😟

That's why i'm interested in that order from a mere human like you who now redirects your sound motive turning it against your own will?

I hope you can see the sense in this so if truly you have sound and sharp mind answer the question now because i didn't tell you i am a Christian rather you are the one who claimed to be a SOLDIER and trying to educate us on your duty as a soldier.
You dont get to judge me and call yourself a Christian at the same time

What country are we currently in?
Nigeria, and what do all Christian Nigerians do? You all place man made cultural traditions above your religion and go directly against your religion and the whole free will thing.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Fenrir(m): 6:18am On Oct 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you don't know why you are taking orders from a human like you because instead of answering a simple question you turned around and started asking questions when i showed interest in what you said.

You said

This shows you've got something interesting to share but then you proved to be empty when asked a simple question!😟

If as a soldier your duty is to protect and save lives then what changed along the line so that you later thought of destroying lives again?😟

That's why i'm interested in that order from a mere human like you who now redirects your sound motive turning it against your own will?

I hope you can see the sense in this so if truly you have sound and sharp mind answer the question now because i didn't tell you i am a Christian rather you are the one who claimed to be a SOLDIER and trying to educate us on your duty as a soldier.
You’re misunderstanding what I said. A soldier’s mission has never been about destroying lives — it’s about protecting them, even when that protection demands tough decisions others might not understand.

Orders may come from higher authority, but they don’t erase my will or my sense of right and wrong. They shape it through discipline, courage, and duty. The “order” you refer to isn’t about blind obedience — it’s about commitment to a cause greater than myself. My motive hasn’t changed; it’s always been about service, not destruction.

And to be honest, the path made sense for me. I was hunting polar bears with my dad before I turned ten, so handling a weapon and understanding responsibility came early. Joining the military felt natural — I wanted to protect people, and yes, there was also financial sense to it: part of a family inheritance gave me a chance to secure our future.

Twelve years of service and twelve years of sacrifice — that’s the balance I chose. It means no worries later in life, because I know what I stood for and why I did it.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:20am On Oct 31, 2025
Fenrir:
You dont get to judge.
How does the question judge you?

You said aa a soldier your duty is to save and protect lives but then someone else could order you to destroy lives.

So i want to know what happened to your first sound and sharp mind is someone else could easily change your motive?🤔

Let me enlighten you!

You said i am not one of God's people but the question is what makes a person part of God's people?

READING the Bible is one thing and STUDYING the Bible is another thing through the study of the Bible i have learned that Rahab a woman from Jericho and Ruth a moabite both became part of God's people to the extent that God saw to it that these two women became great grandmothers of Jesus who is God's Son! Matthew 5:5

So tell me are both Rahab and Ruth not part of God's people? smiley
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Fenrir(m): 6:22am On Oct 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
How does the question judge you?

You said aa a soldier your duty is to save and protect lives but then someone else could order you to destroy lives.

So i want to know what happened to your first sound and sharp mind is someone else could easily change your motive?🤔

Let me enlighten you!

You said i am not one of God's people but the question is what makes a person part of God's people?

READING the Bible is one thing and STUDYING the Bible is another thing through the study of the Bible i have learned that Rahab a woman from Jericho and Ruth a moabite both became part of God's people to the extent that God saw to it that these two women became great grandmothers of Jesus who is God's Son! Matthew 5:5

So tell me are both Rahab and Ruth not part of God's people? smiley
See, typical hypocrite tactic ignore the words you still have the free will to reject orders and face punishment.
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23am On Oct 31, 2025
Fenrir:
Orders may come from higher authority,
Who and what constitutes this HIGHER AUTHORITY that is redirecting your sound and sharp mind? embarassed
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24am On Oct 31, 2025
Fenrir:
See, typical hypocrite tactic ignore the words you still have the free will to reject orders and face punishment.
Who has the right to PUNISH you for rejecting an order that's inhumane?🤔
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31am On Oct 31, 2025
@ Fenrir

I love people with sharp minds so don't see me as an enemy or critic i just want to learn from you if you can educate me on certain things that's not clear to me.

Thanks!
Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Fenrir(m): 6:31am On Oct 31, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Who and what constitutes this HIGHER AUTHORITY that is redirecting your sound and sharp mind? embarassed
What gives anyone here the authority to dictate how adults over 21 should live their lives?
What gives anyone the right to interfere in how grown adults choose to marry?

You question my life choices, yet I’ve lived my life on my own terms. When I joined the military, I entered a legal agreement — one I signed willingly, accepting that authority by choice and by my own free will. That same free will you claim your God granted to all people. Yet the majority of Nigerians seem intent on denying that very freedom to others.
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