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Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Racoon(op): 1:51am On Jul 20, 2025
A cockpit voice recording of Air India Flight 171 indicates the younger co-pilot asked his more experienced colleague why he turned off the plane's fuel-supply switches, according to people familiar with the matter.

The initial investigation showed that the fuel-control switches were turned off immediately after the plane departed, and while the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the crash. Investigators are probing whether the switches were turned off due to a failure of the plane's systems or human action — deliberate or inadvertent, according to the report.

A cockpit voice recording of doomed Air India Flight 171 indicates the younger co-pilot asked his more experienced colleague why he turned off the plane’s fuel-supply switches, according to people familiar with the matter.

The information, from people who asked not to be identified because they’re not authorized to speak publicly, reveals for the first time who said what in the flight deck. The exchange was first mentioned in last week’s preliminary report from India’s Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau probing the June 12 crash in the western city of Ahmedabad, but without identifying the speakers.

The report had shown two fuel switches in the cockpit were moved to a cut-off position, causing the Boeing Co. 787 Dreamliner to lose lift and crash 32 seconds after takeoff. The other pilot had denied turning off the switches, according to the AAIB, which had extracted data from the cockpit voice recorder.

Aviation experts had speculated that it was first officer Clive Kunder who had posed the question to captain Sumeet Sabharwal given Kunder was the pilot flying and would have had his hands full — one on the yoke commanding the widebody into the skies, and the other on the throttle controlling the aircraft’s speed. The Wall Street Journal previously reported who said what in the exchange.

The initial investigation showed that the fuel-control switches were turned off immediately after the plane departed. While the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the June 12 crash that killed 260 people on board the plane and on the ground.

How and why the switches came to be turned off — cutting the flow of fuel to the engines — are now the key lines of inquiry for investigators. Officials are probing whether it could be the result of a failure of the plane’s systems or human action — deliberate or inadvertent.

The two switches sit at the lower end of the aircraft’s center console between the two pilot seats and near the thrust levers, and they’re designed in a way to prevent unintended movement.

There are metal guards on either side of the mushroom-shaped knobs, and the switches themselves have a spring-loaded locking mechanism, requiring a pull-up motion to change the position. Once moved, a tab at their base locks them in position.

While the new details add fresh perspective on the confusion in the cockpit during the 32 seconds between takeoff and crash, investigators still haven’t drawn any definitive conclusions.

In a statement on Thursday, the AAIB cautioned not to jump to premature conclusions about what happened, and that a final report will include root causes and recommendations.

“At this stage, it is too early to reach to any definite conclusions,” the agency said. “The investigation by AAIB is still not complete.”

More to Discern
The cockpit recording could be even more revelatory, according to Michael Daniel, a retired Federal Aviation Administration inspector and accident investigator. “There are multiple microphones around the cockpit including their headsets,” said Daniel.

The mic positions mean it’s possible that it captured and discerned not just the sound of the fuel switches being turned off, but the direction from which it came in the cockpit — offering investigators definitive information as to who cut off fuel supply to the planes engines, he said.

Earlier this week, India’s civil aviation authority ordered an inspection of cockpit fuel switches on Boeing 737 and 787 aircraft operating in the country in an effort to ascertain whether the crash was caused by equipment failure.

Aviation psychologists and medical specialists are also involved in the investigation, a typical practice across the aviation industry to probe the role of the pilots in the crash.

The first officer expressed surprise that the fuel switches were off and then panicked, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with US officials’ early assessment of evidence. The captain seemed to remain calm, according to the report. The Airline Pilots’ Association of India has pushed back on human action as the cause.

The US National Transportation Safety Board, which is assisting on the investigation, referred questions to the Indian authorities. Boeing also referred questions to the AAIB. Air India and GE Aerospace, which manufactured the engines, declined to comment.

Air India Chief Executive Officer Campbell Wilson said in a memo to employees on Monday, viewed by Bloomberg News, that the report identified no cause and didn’t make any recommendations. “I urge everyone to avoid drawing premature conclusions as the investigation is far from over,” he said.

— With assistance from Mihir Mishra and Danny Lee (Updates with statement from AAIB beginning in ninth paragraph.)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-17/junior-pilot-asked-air-india-captain-why-fuel-switches-were-off

Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Racoon(op):
"The initial investigation showed that the fuel-control switches were turned off immediately after the plane departed. While the move was reversed about 10 seconds later, it was too late to avert the June 12 crash that killed 260 people on board the plane and on the ground.

The first officer expressed surprise that the fuel switches were off and then panicked but the captain seemed to remain calm, according to the report

How and why the switches came to be turned off cutting the flow of fuel to the engines are now the key lines of inquiry for investigators. Officials are probing whether it could be the result of a failure of the plane’s systems or human action deliberate or inadvertent......."
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Racoon(op):
Humn! So many conspiracy theories surrounding this ill fated Air India Flight of June-12 2025. However, as the world awaits the unravelling the circumstances surrounding the dooming of this sophisticated wide-bodied aircraft, it is expected that all these speculations be suspended.

This incident whether due to human or mechanical error is a tragic incident that will forever bedeviled the aviation world. Rest in peace to all the world lost and condolences to affected families and countries.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by OgaTheTop2: 2:35am On Jul 20, 2025
That was a suicide flight mission.

RIP to the departed sad
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by SmallmebigGod: 5:54am On Jul 20, 2025
While this may be true, this report is unfair to the memory of the pilot since it has not been confirmed. What if this is a plot to cover up something,


By the way, over 4 plane crashef around January February 2025 in the US, what has the wall street moguls reported how come the report on Air India came to open before those ones
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by FreeStuffsNG: 1:55pm On Jul 20, 2025
Racoon:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-17/junior-pilot-asked-air-india-captain-why-fuel-switches-were-off
He was actually sick and ready to end his life even before he flew the plane. It's really unfortunate that he took a lot of lives along.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Ishilove: 1:56pm On Jul 20, 2025
Same old news. Nothing new here that we don't know. Stop rehashing old news
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Ishilove: 1:57pm On Jul 20, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
He was actually sick and ready to end his life even before he flew the plane. It's really unfortunate that he took a lot of lives along.
Has this been proven or it is just speculation?

No more characters
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Christ4ever: 1:59pm On Jul 20, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
He was actually sick and ready to end his life even before he flew the plane. It's really unfortunate that he took a lot of lives along.
This is scary to hear.

If true, he could have just died alone na instead of dragging innocent lives with him cry

Where did you get the story of his mental health issue?
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Nemesis0147(m): 2:03pm On Jul 20, 2025
Massive lawsuit loading

Absnsnanamammamamamamama
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by BodyCount: 2:04pm On Jul 20, 2025
Wow
Truth coming out... It was suicide all along
Very terrific
Terrorists everywhere
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by FreeStuffsNG:
Ishilove:
Has this been proven or it is just speculation?

No more characters
Not speculation. There's a report on him that was published yesterday

He experienced a black swan and could not cope.

He lost his aged mother in 2022, his marriage crashed and got separated from his wife, left to an aged father he literally worships and adores enough to tell his security guard to take care of just when he was leaving home for this last trip. "Take care of Papa" was his parting words to the security guard.

He lived and died as a taciturn melancholic, a perfectionist and extreme obsession with order and personal hygiene. Probably felt inadequate and believe he was a failure after losing his mother and marriage. He was fondly called "Sad Sack" by his professional colleagues.

He was the Lead Pilot and final decisions lie on his already sunken shoulders.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by DesChyko: 2:09pm On Jul 20, 2025
In a report I read last week, I think, this was a question which the other replied that he had not done so.

This report seems to suggest otherwise.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Helpfromabove1(m): 2:10pm On Jul 20, 2025
I don’t believe in this report

Why will he do

The report say he pilot hands is fully busy

So how will he be able to cut off the engine


More importantly while do u even need to have such switch that cut off fuel can an aviation expert help to answer this question

A car those not have such switch


Nnmkig
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Softmirror: 2:10pm On Jul 20, 2025
They are insinuating that one of the pilots must be mentally ill. 🤧 Abeg God ooooooo!!!!
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Kukutente23: 2:15pm On Jul 20, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
He was actually sick and ready to end his life even before he flew the plane. It's really unfortunate that he took a lot of lives along.
See the guy that used to accuse people of criminal defamation spinning lies against a deceased
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Tjra: 2:16pm On Jul 20, 2025
Softmirror:
They are insinuating that one of the pilots must be mentally ill. 🤧 Abeg God ooooooo!!!!
As in ehn.... This one na God abeg oo

May we not be unfortunate.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by SeeWahala: 2:19pm On Jul 20, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
Not speculation. There's a report on him that was published yesterday

He experienced a black swan and could not cope.

He lost his aged mother in 2022, got separated from his wife and left to an aged father he literally worship and adores enough to tell his security guard to take care of just when he was leaving home for this last trip.

He lived and died as a taciturn melancholic, a perfectionist and extreme obsession with order and personal hygiene. Probably felt inadequate and believe he was a failure after losing his mother and marriage. He was fondly called "Sad Sack" by his professional colleagues.

He was the Lead Pilot and final decisions lie on his already sunken shoulders.
You and your conspiracy theories cum propaganda mouth undecided

One shred of evidence you no get angry
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by SeeWahala: 2:19pm On Jul 20, 2025
Kukutente23:
See the guy that used to accuse people of criminal defamation spinning lies against a deceased
The thing taya you abi? undecided that's why he can be seeing Israel decimating Iran and still fina a way to say Iran is winning cry
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by TheStranger: 2:21pm On Jul 20, 2025
That pilot don use other people head go the other side
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Dogalmighty17: 2:29pm On Jul 20, 2025
If you want to commit suicide, do your thing without forcing others to die with you.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by tnerro1(m): 2:35pm On Jul 20, 2025
Helpfromabove1:
I don’t believe in this report

Why will he do

The report say he pilot hands is fully busy

So how will he be able to cut off the engine


More importantly while do u even need to have such switch that cut off fuel can an aviation expert help to answer this question

A car those not have such switch


Nnmkig
Sometimes, an engine may have a problem, let’s say fire, you need to cut off the fuel to that particular engine to stop the suitation from getting worse. But stopping fuel to all engines is highly suspect
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by chinchum(m): 2:35pm On Jul 20, 2025
A mechanical glitch may be a possibility. Just like a tripped circuit breaker
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Dougad: 2:41pm On Jul 20, 2025
Captain was suicidal and damned everyone else. Very reminiscent of the 2014 plane disappearance.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by GanagiBitrus: 2:41pm On Jul 20, 2025
They should be patient and wait for thorough investigations to be concluded rather all these premature speculations.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by FreeStuffsNG: 2:45pm On Jul 20, 2025
Kukutente23:
See the guy that used to accuse people of criminal defamation spinning lies against a deceased
Ignorance is not bliss. Smh.
Those who asked for update on him asked politely unlike you resorting to blackmail because the consequence prescribed in the Cybercrimes Act 2025 is now hangs over your head and other cyberbullies.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by AmazingELixir: 3:20pm On Jul 20, 2025
grin

Wow! This is quite troubling if proven to be intentional....Obidients will still find a way to blame Tinubu for this just to curry favour for their dead on Arrival presidential aspirations.
Re: Air India Flight 171; Junior Pilot Asked Captain Why He Turned Off Fuel Switches by Gotocourt: 3:44pm On Jul 20, 2025
Nawa oOoOO, ant psych as pilot. Probably one minute madness just kicked in 🤦🤷. Just wasted lives
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