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I need to clarify this to all APC corn lovers
Student loan is not an achievement. A lot of students aren't even on the loan. The person I am paying for isn't on loan. Before the student loan the fees were very affordable for everyone. Government can afford to subsidies tuition if the cut off unnecessary expenses they use to live Large. No student should graduate and be a debtor to a government that can't even provide enabling environment for industries and businesses.

PDP era of low affordable tuition is much better than APC student loan era.

Okay, we have read.

Go on social media and see what the beneficiaries are saying about the loan. The good thing about this government is, it's Nigerians who are now defending them as the opposition have been deliberately undermining their efforts

OneCandleAway:
I need to clarify this to all APC corn lovers
Student loan is not an achievement. A lot of students aren't even on the loan. The person I am paying for isn't on loan. Before the student loan the fees were very affordable for everyone. Government can afford to subsidies tuition if the cut off unnecessary expenses they use to live Large. No student should graduate and be a debtor to a government that can't even provide enabling environment for industries and businesses.

PDP era of low affordable tuition is much better than APC student loan era.

Tuition fee was not low under the PDP.

Students were dropping out of school because they and their parents can't afford the expenses.

A lot of you go just dey talk like say no b this same Nigeria we dey between 1999 and 2015 when nothing was working.

Some students attending OOU were paying over 200k as school fees, some were paying over 170k as school fees

At Tai Solarin University,Ijagun... The school fees was over 100k.

I know 2 students who had to drop out after LASU increased school fees.

There's nothing the FG will do you guys from the south east will be happy with just because you hate where the president is from.

Ikaeniyan0:
Tuition fee was not low under the PDP.

Students were dropping out of school because they and their parents can't afford to sponsor them.

A lot of you go just dey talk like say no b this same Nigeria we dey between 1999 and 2015 when nothing was working

Federal school was low enough. Unilag 30k
It was affordable enough for the people. State school was higher but you know what you're getting into. But ar the moment the fees are outrageous. And not everyone is on the loan.
Please if you're not paying anyones school fees don't put your mouth in this matter.

OneCandleAway:
Federal school was low enough. Unilag 30k
It was affordable enough for the people. State school was higher but you know what you're getting into. But ar the moment the fees are outrageous. And not everyone is on the loan.
Please if you're not paying anyones school fees don't put your mouth in this matter.

I grew up in Akoka, I can't count the numbers of students who had to drop out because their parents were not capable of sponsoring them.

I can't count the numbers of students who do go hungry for days because they had no money to eat.

I cant count the numbers of students who couldn't afford to pay for a room

The way you guys talk as if Nigeria was rosy under the PDP is irritating

Even when the school fees was not up to 5k, students were dropping out because some families couldn't still pay it.

Since I don dey know my left from right in this Nigeria, I can comfortably say Nigeria has never been rosy. I know a bros who do hide from a food vendor because he's owing her less than #15.

When a bag of rice was 5k, there were millions of families who couldn't afford to buy it, when no b say nah the uncooked rice dem go just dey chop

OneCandleAway:
I need to clarify this to all APC corn lovers
Student loan is not an achievement. A lot of students aren't even on the loan. The person I am paying for isn't on loan. Before the student loan the fees were very affordable for everyone. Government can afford to subsidies tuition if the cut off unnecessary expenses they use to live Large. No student should graduate and be a debtor to a government that can't even provide enabling environment for industries and businesses.

PDP era of low affordable tuition is much better than APC student loan era.

1. PDP era of low affordable tution was also PDP era of poorly funded universites, poorly equipped labs, poorly stocked libraries, and hostels that looked like slums. That's the price of low affordable tutiion...and it was in fairness, a continued problem from the army times.

(I spent most of my university days under PDP, so don't come and tell me I am lying.)

2. Yes, salaries of lecturers went up under PDP, but the general situation of the unviersities was bad.

3. ASUU repeatedly went on strike to change matters, and to beg the government to do more than increase salaries, but at the end of the day, nothing changed under PDP. The universites were still as bad as they were when PDP came in

4. Same issues with half baked graduates...under PDP.

Note that I did not say APC made things better...they did not. ASUU still screamed at buhari, and even tinubu, they no hear. Funding for education as a whole is still a measly 2 billion dollars for 200 million or more people.

The loan thing is an acceptance that at the end of the day, universites are poorly funded, fees are too low to improve the funding. But it is still a bandaid on a very large and open wound that would benefit from major surgery. It does not address the problem...which is funding.

But the truth is, your pdp and their APC refuse to face the fact that universities remain poorly funded. Your pdp and their apc are still scared to increase funding, to tell nigerians the truth that taxing the 70% that do not pay tax to pay for better education and or raising fees is the way forward.

Low fees looks nice, but it is why our universities are a mess, and were a mess under PDP. And even now.

At the end, however, the buck is on tinubu's table, and he has to wake up to the fact that he needs to do more. Hell, when a VC of a university says that government gives him one fifth of his overhead costs...how does the university function properly.?

OneCandleAway:
I need to clarify this to all APC corn lovers
Student loan is not an achievement. A lot of students aren't even on the loan. The person I am paying for isn't on loan. Before the student loan the fees were very affordable for everyone. Government can afford to subsidies tuition if the cut off unnecessary expenses they use to live Large. No student should graduate and be a debtor to a government that can't even provide enabling environment for industries and businesses.

PDP era of low affordable tuition is much better than APC student loan era.

All i'm trying to say on this thread is that, student loan is a big achievement. Thousands of students across Nigeria are enjoying it

https://x.com/dolusegun/status/1947569723459408225?s=46

OneCandleAway:
I need to clarify this to all APC corn lovers
Student loan is not an achievement. A lot of students aren't even on the loan. The person I am paying for isn't on loan. Before the student loan the fees were very affordable for everyone. Government can afford to subsidies tuition if the cut off unnecessary expenses they use to live Large. No student should graduate and be a debtor to a government that can't even provide enabling environment for industries and businesses.

PDP era of low affordable tuition is much better than APC student loan era.

What Tinubu and his team did was take away what Nigerians used to get from the government because the government could no longer afford it and then return it as a loan, and somehow that's now considered an achievement.

They will tell you to go on social media and see people giving testimonies, but ask that same person to provide proof that access to student loans has increased the number of students in school compared to when tuition was subsidized and they will start explaining

They should come out with the statistics latter, so we can compare when fees were low how many students graduated and when fees were higher and loans were introduced how many students were able to graduate
You will see that all is just deceit ,because there is no benefit for anybody in this their subsidy removal except for the people spending the revenue, because they now have more money for the frivolities while the masses of the grapple will difficulties
The government is loaning students 5bn while buying jet 150bn ,you can see their priorities

Ikaeniyan0:
All i'm trying to say on this thread is that, student loan is a big achievement. Thousands of students across Nigeria are enjoying it

They reduced what all Nigerian students were enjoying to what thousands of Nigerian students are enjoying and you think it is an achievement?

God abeg

Tallesty1:
They reduced what all Nigerian students were enjoying to what thousands of Nigerian students are enjoying and you think it is an achievement?

God abeg

All Nigerian students were enjoying what?

Ikaeniyan0:
All Nigerian students were enjoying what?

Subsidized education

Denmark has free education. Free quality education from the cradle to the grave. And in return , danes pay half their salary as tax to the government.

(A group of Nigerian journalists once arrived in Copenhagen from nigeria to attend a international journalists confrence. They had arrived a bit early, so they waited at the airport. While there they chatted with a danish airport staff who told them the above).

The loan thing is eventually going to be a part of our lives, because the harsh reality is, at the end of the day, universites are expensive. I even foresee a future where a student takes a loan of 3-10 million naira from a bank to fund fees of that amount at government unviersites, who will use the money to fund the thing.

Lord knows, I wish we could have cheap education like students did in the 1960's and 70's. But back then, universites on average had 2-3000 students, and there were 4-5 of them. Now, we have over 70 of them and counting, and budgets for universites are around 2-3 billion naira.

Either we pay half our salaries in tax to the federal government, or students take out hefty loans from the banks eventually, or we do both (Japan taxes everyone in the country, even foreign residents...and yet students have to pay hefty fees for university, so they have to take loans...)...or we keep on paying subsides on educaiton while we complain about how bad the unviersites are. Even this NELFUND, as someone commented is subsidy by another name.

I honestly don't know how we are going to make our universites better.

I forsee that eventually graduates from private and foreign universites will be beating the graduates from nigerian government unis in the next ten years. And it will be the kids of the poor who benefit from cheap education in the government unis that will suffer. It scares me.

Tallesty1:
Subsidized education

And massively poor facilities and bad universities.

Dividend of democracy. Only people with their senses will understand

nairalanda1:
And massively poor facilities and bad universities.

Yea, our universities' facilities are now world best since the introduction of student loan.



Congratulations

Tallesty1:
Yea, our universities' facilities are now world best since the introduction of student loan.



Congratulations

See my above post. Since apc took over , things haven't improved at all.

See also my comment about nelfund

Sometimes you guys need to dump the politics and look at things candidly. Problem dey now, problem dey for the past

nairalanda1:
Denmark has free education. Free quality education from the cradle to the grave. And in return , danes pay half their salary as tax to the government.

(A group of Nigerian journalists once arrived in Copenhagen from nigeria to attend a international journalists confrence. They had arrived a bit early, so they waited at the airport. While there they chatted with a danish airport staff who told them the above).

The loan thing is eventually going to be a part of our lives, because the harsh reality is, at the end of the day, universites are expensive. I even foresee a future where a student takes a loan of 3-10 million naira from a bank to fund fees of that amount at government unviersites, who will use the money to fund the thing.

Lord knows, I wish we could have cheap education like students did in the 1960's and 70's. But back then, universites on average had 2-3000 students, and there were 4-5 of them. Now, we have over 70 of them and counting, and budgets for universites are around 2-3 billion naira.

Either we pay half our salaries in tax to the federal government, or students take out hefty loans from the banks eventually, or we do both (Japan taxes everyone in the country, even foreign residents...and yet students have to pay hefty fees for university, so they have to take loans...)...or we keep on paying subsides on educaiton while we complain about how bad the unviersites are. Even this NELFUND, as someone commented is subsidy by another name.

I honestly don't know how we are going to make our universites better.

I forsee that eventually graduates from private and foreign universites will be beating the graduates from nigerian government unis in the next ten years. And it will be the kids of the poor who benefit from cheap education in the government unis that will suffer. It scares me.

Why can't the so called increased allocation to governors not be channelled to institutions like universities. The truth you tax advocates always ignore is that there is a lot of wastage in the system.areas that need to be funded are neglected while areas that shouldn't be priorities are made priority, but tax advocates don't see those.

okpouman:
Why can't the so called increased allocation to governors not be channelled to institutions like universities. The truth you tax advocates always ignore is that there is a lot of wastage in the system.areas that need to be funded are neglected while areas that shouldn't be priorities are made priority, but tax advocates don't see those.

Because there are other sectors like healthcare, transport, sports, salaries and wages, etc etc...

And because what we are earning as a nation cannot give us the denmark level of education. That is the real reason why apc and tinubu are not running a good government.

Tuition fees for universities have never been affordable for everyone.
I have seen young men decades that the family has to go to school in turns simply because they couldn't afford tuition fee of #30,000.
This is what u call "affordable for everyone", today same family has 3 children in the university, but according to your theory, that school fees was affordable for everyone and no one could afford this one.


Student's loan is not achievement, but it's an improvement, if the person you are paying for didn't apply, nobody will force them to apply.

nairalanda1:
1. PDP era of low affordable tution was also PDP era of poorly funded universites, poorly equipped labs, poorly stocked libraries, and hostels that looked like slums. That's the price of low affordable tutiion...and it was in fairness, a continued problem from the army times.

(I spent most of my university days under PDP, so don't come and tell me I am lying.)

2. Yes, salaries of lecturers went up under PDP, but the general situation of the unviersities was bad.

3. ASUU repeatedly went on strike to change matters, and to beg the government to do more than increase salaries, but at the end of the day, nothing changed under PDP. The universites were still as bad as they were when PDP came in

4. Same issues with half baked graduates...under PDP.

Note that I did not say APC made things better...they did not. ASUU still screamed at buhari, and even tinubu, they no hear. Funding for education as a whole is still a measly 2 billion dollars for 200 million or more people.

The loan thing is an acceptance that at the end of the day, universites are poorly funded, fees are too low to improve the funding. But it is still a bandaid on a very large and open wound that would benefit from major surgery. It does not address the problem...which is funding.

But the truth is, your pdp and their APC refuse to face the fact that universities remain poorly funded. Your pdp and their apc are still scared to increase funding, to tell nigerians the truth that taxing the 70% that do not pay tax to pay for better education and or raising fees is the way forward.

Low fees looks nice, but it is why our universities are a mess, and were a mess under PDP. And even now.

At the end, however, the buck is on tinubu's table, and he has to wake up to the fact that he needs to do more. Hell, when a VC of a university says that government gives him one fifth of his overhead costs...how does the university function properly.?

But ASUU didnt go on strike under Tinubu. You cant put those two situations side by side

You should learn to be honest. Everytime he go dey shout "I am not saying APC is better". Oga, you be cow-ard

You dont have to support everything they are doing, but when they do something impressive, just hail them and move on


You just dey swing around

nairalanda1:
See my above post. Since apc took over , things haven't improved at all.

See also my comment about nelfund

Sometimes you guys need to dump the politics and look at things candidly. Problem dey now, problem dey for the past

These days you can't address a probIem the way it is, if you do, you are supporting Tinubu.
People pretend like PDP was a bed of roses but probIems are carried over from ancient government till date, everyone sees everything with political eyes but they expect a functioning society.

OneCandleAway:
I need to clarify this to all APC corn lovers
Student loan is not an achievement. A lot of students aren't even on the loan. The person I am paying for isn't on loan. Before the student loan the fees were very affordable for everyone. Government can afford to subsidies tuition if the cut off unnecessary expenses they use to live Large. No student should graduate and be a debtor to a government that can't even provide enabling environment for industries and businesses.

PDP era of low affordable tuition is much better than APC student loan era.

Go back to the PDP era, who is stopping you

nairalanda1:
Because there are other sectors like healthcare, transport, sports, salaries and wages, etc etc...

And because what we are earning as a nation cannot give us the denmark level of education. That is the real reason why apc and tinubu are not running a good government.

But trillions can be budgeted for a road with unproven ECONOMIC value,billions can be used to renovate vice president house and ICC etc while real things that affect the people there's always no revenue for it

okpouman:
But trillions can be budgeted for a road with unproven ECONOMIC value,billions can be used to renovate vice president house and ICC etc while real things that affect the people there's always no revenue for it

The road you are talking about is being executed majorly by private entities...out of 10 naira,FG will only pay 3,the remaining 7 will be private.
Private entities know the economic value of that road than some half illiterates that are going against its execution.

nairalanda1:
1. PDP era of low affordable tution was also PDP era of poorly funded universites, poorly equipped labs, poorly stocked libraries, and hostels that looked like slums. That's the price of low affordable tutiion...and it was in fairness, a continued problem from the army times.

(I spent most of my university days under PDP, so don't come and tell me I am lying.)

2. Yes, salaries of lecturers went up under PDP, but the general situation of the unviersities was bad.

3. ASUU repeatedly went on strike to change matters, and to beg the government to do more than increase salaries, but at the end of the day, nothing changed under PDP. The universites were still as bad as they were when PDP came in

4. Same issues with half baked graduates...under PDP.

Note that I did not say APC made things better...they did not. ASUU still screamed at buhari, and even tinubu, they no hear. Funding for education as a whole is still a measly 2 billion dollars for 200 million or more people.

The loan thing is an acceptance that at the end of the day, universites are poorly funded, fees are too low to improve the funding. But it is still a bandaid on a very large and open wound that would benefit from major surgery. It does not address the problem...which is funding.

But the truth is, your pdp and their APC refuse to face the fact that universities remain poorly funded. Your pdp and their apc are still scared to increase funding, to tell nigerians the truth that taxing the 70% that do not pay tax to pay for better education and or raising fees is the way forward.

Low fees looks nice, but it is why our universities are a mess, and were a mess under PDP. And even now.

At the end, however, the buck is on tinubu's table, and he has to wake up to the fact that he needs to do more. Hell, when a VC of a university says that government gives him one fifth of his overhead costs...how does the university function properly.?

This is a reasonable analysis. In the long run, a sustainable solution would be for the Federal Government to privatize the universities by selling a 50% stake to the private sector. This would allow private investors to set tuition fees they consider appropriate in order to maintain quality and remain profitable.

The government’s annual returns from its remaining 50% ownership should then be reinvested into the same institutions—funding research, scholarships, and the development of manpower in economically underperforming sectors. This approach ensures a self-sustaining system where quality is maintained, and strategic growth is supported.

To make education accessible, the government should continue to offer student loans and upkeep support for those who cannot afford the tuition fees.

Putinofrussia:
The road you are talking about is being executed majorly by private entities...out of 10 naira,FG will only pay 3,the remaining 7 will be private.
Private entities know the economic value of that road than some half illiterates that are going against its execution.

Private entities,then the road will take not less than 10 years to be finished after which people will be compelled to pay tolls.
What then is the government using its increased revenue for?
What does the government actually do with its revenue?
That is exactly what am saying ,the government does so little with its revenue for the people everything is either done by foreign governments aid ,private entities which will be paid back in debt of one form or the other.while the government actually does nothing that benefits the people with the taxes and revenues it generates except paying salaries of government workers ,everything else goes to the political elite then the people are told there's no funds for any other thing .
Pls just enumerate what the federal government and state governments are actually doing that the masses are benefiting from.

OneCandleAway:
I need to clarify this to all APC corn lovers
Student loan is not an achievement. A lot of students aren't even on the loan. The person I am paying for isn't on loan. Before the student loan the fees were very affordable for everyone. Government can afford to subsidies tuition if the cut off unnecessary expenses they use to live Large. No student should graduate and be a debtor to a government that can't even provide enabling environment for industries and businesses.

PDP era of low affordable tuition is much better than APC student loan era.

Most likely this one was never born during PDP era or still a kid still breastfeeding. You probably started following politics in 2023.

Ikaeniyan0:
Tuition fee was not low under the PDP.

Students were dropping out of school because they and their parents can't afford the expenses.

A lot of you go just dey talk like say no b this same Nigeria we dey between 1999 and 2015 when nothing was working.

Some students attending OOU were paying over 200k as school fees, some were paying over 170k as school fees

At Tai Solarin University,Ijagun... The school fees was over 100k.

I know 2 students who had to drop out after LASU increased school fees.

There's nothing the FG will do you guys from the south east will be happy with just because you hate where the president is from.

Laus school fees untill last three years was 25,000. When you say people dropped out of lasu. Tell us the fees.

Beautifulday:
Laus school fees untill last three years was 25,000. When you say people dropped out of lasu. Tell us the fees.

After telling you the fees

You will ask me to tell you thier names and village.

Ikaeniyan0:
After telling you the fees

You will ask me to tell you thier names and village

I went to lasu. I could pay 5 students school fees comfortably as a student then.