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I keep wondering. Nigerians pray so much,both Christians and Muslims. They believe everything begins n end with prayers. Yes maybe it works for people individually but I keep wondering why it doesn't work nationally.

Innocent souls are gruesomely murdered daily in huge numbers.
There's wide spread poverty and SLAVERY.

Nigeria is not developed
Institutions are poor
Quality of life is generally poor.

Yet Nigeria has the biggest churches, pastors and even mosques.

Is there something missing
Why does things almost go from bad to worse despite continued prayers,

Does God actually function the way we expect or are we doing it wrong.

Is there really need for these prayers, churches and mosque?

Nigeria stands out in its religious reverence for God but it doesn't reflect in the nation

Show us one place where God says prayer is unconditionally answered.

okpouman:
I keep wondering. Nigerians pray so much,both Christians and Muslims. They believe everything begins n end with prayers. Yes maybe it works for people individually but I keep wondering why it doesn't work nationally.

Innocent souls are gruesomely murdered daily in huge numbers.
There's wide spread poverty and SLAVERY.

Nigeria is not developed
Institutions are poor
Quality of life is generally poor.

Yet Nigeria has the biggest churches, pastors and even mosques.

Is there something missing
Why does things almost go from bad to worse despite continued prayers,

Does God actually function the way we expect or are we doing it wrong.

Is there really need for these prayers, churches and mosque?

Nigeria stands out in its religious reverence for God but it doesn't reflect in the nation

Because you are worshiping the gods of your enemies, who invaded your land and slaughtered your ancestors.

They colonised you and demonised your glorious traditional spirituality, and imposed their Fake, non-existent “saviour” for you to pray to on the same land they defiled with your ancestors’ blood.

So why would you expect things to go well for you?

Go and keep praying to the gods of your enemies who slaughtered your ancestors and destroyed your civilisation.

One day they will hear your prayer.

Leadership is the problem, Nigeria by geography alone is one of the most blessed countries in the world.
Everything needed to make a country great is present, just honest and dedicated Leadership to make it happen.
We cannot elevate someone who failed previously as a governor and dress him up as some kind of Saint and expect a miracle.

This is because Prayer is a lazy man's fortress.
Prayer makes the hands lazy and renders the brain dormant.

Prayers keeps giving you hope until reality sets in.

Show me someone believes in prayers and i wll instantly show you someone who isnt ready to be responsible for their life and choices.

Those who tell you they prayed and received answers are those who either skipped their mathematics class when probability was being taught or they didn't grab the topic.

Show me one prayer that was answered, and i will show you millions that were not answered.

In the end, its all probabilities and no one actually answers prayers.

Just look around you, the world and everything you see, nothing that was made was done by prayers. Everything was done by man putting their asses to worl and in some cases paying with their dear lives to get work done.

Go to Europe and the western world and see their work culture. They dont believe in prayers yet they live better lives. Most of their citizens live to their 80s and 90s without believing in prayers.

Is God about riches?

saddler:
This is because Prayer is a lazy man's fortress.
Prayer makes the hands lazy and renders the brain dormant.

Prayers keeps giving you hope until reality sets in.

Show me someone believes in prayers and i wll instantly show you someone who isnt ready to be responsible for their life and choices.

Those who tell you they prayed and received answers are those who either skipped their mathematics class when probability was being taught or they didn't grab the topic.

Show me one prayer that was answered, and i will show you millions that were not answered.

In the end, its all probabilities and no one actually answers prayers.

Just look around you, the world and everything you see, nothing that was made was done by prayers. Everything was done by man putting their asses to worl and in some cases paying with their dear lives to get work done.

Go to Europe and the western world and see their work culture. They dont believe in prayers yet they live better lives. Most of their citizens live to their 80s and 90s without believing in prayers.

But it was Europe that practiced and taught you your Christianity and prayers.

Reflect7:
Because you are worshiping the gods of your enemies, who invaded your land and slaughtered your ancestors.

They colonised you and demonised your glorious traditional spirituality, and imposed their Fake, non-existent “saviour” for you to pray to on the same land they defiled with your ancestors’ blood.

So why would you expect things to go well for you?

Go and keep praying to the gods of your enemies who slaughtered your ancestors and destroyed your civilisation.

One day they will hear your prayer.

Is that actually the case,the whites don't own the Abrahamic religions, those Gods ( christain n islam) aren't their native Gods too

saddler:
This is because Prayer is a lazy man's fortress.
Prayer makes the hands lazy and renders the brain dormant.

Prayers keeps giving you hope until reality sets in.

Show me someone believes in prayers and i wll instantly show you someone who isnt ready to be responsible for their life and choices.

Those who tell you they prayed and received answers are those who either skipped their mathematics class when probability was being taught or they didn't grab the topic.

Show me one prayer that was answered, and i will show you millions that were not answered.

In the end, its all probabilities and no one actually answers prayers.

Just look around you, the world and everything you see, nothing that was made was done by prayers. Everything was done by man putting their asses to worl and in some cases paying with their dear lives to get work done.

Go to Europe and the western world and see their work culture. They dont believe in prayers yet they live better lives. Most of their citizens live to their 80s and 90s without believing in prayers.

Wow,the keyword here is probability. I think it's a special area of mathematics that needs to be studied

CodeTemplarr:
Show us one place where God says prayer is unconditionally answered.

.what are the conditions for answered prayers ,I think we need to know

Nigerians are not ready for this conversation. It makes them really uncomfortable and confused, so they just deflect and blame it solely on "Government".

But then again, when you ask why can't the numerous prayers they all render against those plundering the resources of this nation come to pass? They deflect unto something else.

Conversations like this shake the very core of thier religous beliefs and identity.

GreatChizzy:
Nigerians are not ready for this conversation. It makes them really uncomfortable and confused, so they just deflect and blame it solely on "Government".

But then again, when you ask why can't the numerous prayers they all render against those plundering the resources of this nation come to pass? They deflect unto something else.

Conversations like this shake the very core of thier religous beliefs and identity.

Exactly, why can't prayers change the so called evil leaders or destroy them

I believe in action, not blind faith.

Reflect7:
But it was Europe that practiced and taught you your Christianity and prayers.

Ofcourse but they never let the religion becloud their brain.

A functioning brain doesn't believe in prayers. A dormant brain does.

When you study mathematical probability and statistics, you will come to understand why out of millions of prayers , some people's wishes/prayers come to pass.

Positive and negative occurrence are evenly distributed in nature. Whichever comes your way, embrace it.

okpouman:
Is that actually the case,the whites don't own the Abrahamic religions, those Gods ( christain n islam) aren't their native Gods too

The whites Invented christianity.

That is why the headquarters of Christianity is in Rome. Vatican. Italy.

The Arabs invented Islam.

That is why their headquarters is Saudi Arabia.

Where is your traditional religion and spirituality that predates those two religions by thousands of years?

Do you know that the reason you have corruption, kidnapping, scamming, banditry etc, is due to your spiritual disconnection from your ancestors?

Following foreign religions that “forgive” evil?

That forgive Looting once you “accept Jesus” or “accept Muhammad”?

You were harassed by invaders to ditch your religion that demanded Accountability at every turn, especially from leaders, to adopt theirs which said you can do anything you like, and you wonder why you have problems?

Do you know that the Benin kingdom which built a capital described as one of the most beautiful and best-planned cities in the world by 15th century European visitors, a city where the inhabitants didn’t bother to build doors to their houses because theft was unknown, do you know they practiced Traditional African Religion?

Until you people wake up and understand that you were not uncivilised savages rescued by Europeans, that it was actually them that destroyed your High Civilisation, and reduced you to soulless scammers and bandits, you will get nowhere as a people.

A great philosopher once wrote "any religion that tells you to forgive your enemy was created by that same enemy"

okpouman:
I keep wondering. Nigerians pray so much,both Christians and Muslims. They believe everything begins n end with prayers. Yes maybe it works for people individually but I keep wondering why it doesn't work nationally.

Innocent souls are gruesomely murdered daily in huge numbers.
There's wide spread poverty and SLAVERY.

Nigeria is not developed
Institutions are poor
Quality of life is generally poor.

Yet Nigeria has the biggest churches, pastors and even mosques.

Is there something missing
Why does things almost go from bad to worse despite continued prayers,

Does God actually function the way we expect or are we doing it wrong.

Is there really need for these prayers, churches and mosque?

Nigeria stands out in its religious reverence for God but it doesn't reflect in the nation

Bad leadership.

That's what you get when someone that attended a school he graduated from 4 years before it was built, is your president.

In case you don't know.
Churches is one of the problems of Nigeria.
If you can remember how many clueless G.O supported Buhari in 2015 to kick out Jonathan.
Today they are all quiet and still telling their members to pray.

Because majority of its citizens, both Christians and Muslims are religious but not righteous.

Reflect7:
Because you are worshiping the gods of your enemies, who invaded your land and slaughtered your ancestors.

They colonised you and demonised your glorious traditional spirituality, and imposed their Fake, non-existent “saviour” for you to pray to on the same land they defiled with your ancestors’ blood.

So why would you expect things to go well for you?

Go and keep praying to the gods of your enemies who slaughtered your ancestors and destroyed your civilisation.

One day they will hear your prayer.

Funny logic.
Where were the so-called African gods when the enemies invaded Africa and vanquished everywhere?

God has already given you all you need. Huge mineral deposits, huge human resources, huge land mass

God did not give others that are rich and doing well half as much

So if you cannot get your act together and be great, the choice is to disintegrate into smaller pieces that might thrive, or stay together and pray forever without end

Prayer without work is laziness.
Why do most Nigerian that travelled out pray less and praise/ thank God more?
Because 90 percent of African problems is not prayer oriented but leadership problem.
It’s not everything that you needs prayer for.
Some things needs determination, hard work, consistency, connection, Grace.
Road accidents increased due to poor road network, instead of you to pray for something else. You will be praying for God to touch government heart to repair it.
Same accident causes death, instead your instinct tell you that it’s due to bad road, you will claim it’s wicked village people.
Most of us failed because we already have excuses for failure.
You are to read for exam, you didn’t read, you failed, you now lord against your step mother.
If you read and you understand, and probably you were even the best in class, and you still failed. I think that’s what needs spiritual attack.
We Nigerians are to carried away with prayer that we think everything that religious leader say is always correct.
Some days ago, news has it that a pastor was collecting money from his member in other to go to heaven. You imagine a pastor deceiving you with such cheap lie. And so many church members still fell for it.
To be sincere, many churches today were not built on calling but were built on the fact that “offering and tithe “ comes in regularly.
Why are preachers that are now preaching on street collecting offerings after preaching?
You are to win soul, not to make money.
More of reason why very few people are evangelist but will rather hold a church.
They knew that evangelism, requires money, and a lot of immaterial things than pastoring church.

Kemetian:
The whites Invented christianity.

That is why the headquarters of Christianity is in Rome. Vatican. Italy.

The Arabs invented Islam.

That is why their headquarters is Saudi Arabia.

Where is your traditional religion and spirituality that predates those two religions by thousands of years?

Do you know that the reason you have corruption, kidnapping, scamming, banditry etc, is due to your spiritual disconnection from your ancestors?

Following foreign religions that “forgive” evil?

That forgive Looting once you “accept Jesus” or “accept Muhammad”?

You were harassed by invaders to ditch your religion that demanded Accountability at every turn, especially from leaders, to adopt theirs which said you can do anything you like, and you wonder why you have problems?

Do you know that the Benin kingdom which built a capital described as one of the most beautiful and best-planned cities in the world by 15th century European visitors, a city where the inhabitants didn’t bother to build doors to their houses because theft was unknown, do you know they practiced Traditional African Religion?

Until you people wake up and understand that you were not uncivilised savages rescued by Europeans, that it was actually them that destroyed your High Civilisation, and reduced you to soulless scammers and bandits, you will get nowhere as a people.

Even the Benin kingdom at the height of its power under esigie tried to embrace Christianity because they saw the Europeans as more advanced due to their big ships and weapons.the thing is that the blacks recognised and understood that they had technological deficiency which the whites had.so they saw a need and desire to follow the white way.it was a two way thing,the blacks also had faults in the abandonment of their ways.

Tohsynetita1:
Prayer without work is laziness.
Why do most Nigerian that travelled out pray less and praise/ thank God more?
Because 90 percent of African problems is not prayer oriented but leadership problem.
It’s not everything that you needs prayer for.
Some things needs determination, hard work, consistency, connection, Grace.
Road accidents increased due to poor road network, instead of you to pray for something else. You will be praying for God to touch government heart to repair it.
Same accident causes death, instead your instinct tell you that it’s due to bad road, you will claim it’s wicked village people.
Most of us failed because we already have excuses for failure.
You are to read for exam, you didn’t read, you failed, you now lord against your step mother.
If you read and you understand, and probably you were even the best in class, and you still failed. I think that’s what needs spiritual attack.
We Nigerians are to carried away with prayer that we think everything that religious leader say is always correct.
Some days ago, news has it that a pastor was collecting money from his member in other to go to heaven. You imagine a pastor deceiving you with such cheap lie. And so many church members still fell for it.
To be sincere, many churches today were not built on calling but were built on the fact that “offering and tithe “ comes in regularly.
Why are preachers that are now preaching on street collecting offerings after preaching?
You are to win soul, not to make money.
More of reason why very few people are evangelist but will rather hold a church.
They knew that evangelism, requires money, and a lot of immaterial things than pastoring church.

Therefore NIGERIANS are being blackmailed with religion

Nigeria has less than 40% Muslims, so how is Nigeria a Christian state?.

Jesus territories rule the world,you should research why that is so instead.

okpouman:
I keep wondering. Nigerians pray so much,both Christians and Muslims. They believe everything begins n end with prayers. Yes maybe it works for people individually but I keep wondering why it doesn't work nationally.

Innocent souls are gruesomely murdered daily in huge numbers.
There's wide spread poverty and SLAVERY.

Nigeria is not developed
Institutions are poor
Quality of life is generally poor.

Yet Nigeria has the biggest churches, pastors and even mosques.

Is there something missing
Why does things almost go from bad to worse despite continued prayers,

Does God actually function the way we expect or are we doing it wrong.

Is there really need for these prayers, churches and mosque?

Nigeria stands out in its religious reverence for God but it doesn't reflect in the nation

You better thank God for his mercies that we are enjoying in Nigeria through the prayers of His servants, if not the situation could have been worst than this. Bible says righteousness exhort a nation while sin is a reproach,most of the leaders and the citizens of this country are
swimming in sins. You can't eat your eat your cake and still have it.

90% of Nigerians are potential thieves only waiting for the opportunity. Church is not the problem of Nigeria but the general citizens.

One day we will come to the kind of Christianity practiced in Nigeria, in particular some zones in the country

Guestmale:
You better thank God for his mercies that we are enjoying in Nigeria through the prayers of His servants, if not the situation could have been worst than this. Bible says righteousness exhort a nation while sin is a reproach,most of the leaders and the citizens of this country are
swimming in sins. You can't eat your eat your cake and still have it.

90% of Nigerians are potential thieves only waiting for the opportunity. Church is not the problem of Nigeria but the general citizens.

Park well jare.

So why are countries that are less religious and less praying than Nigeria better in most aspects of life?

Are the citizens of these countries and their leaders holy/righteous?

You will get answers to your question when you listen to Dr ebel damina massage.

Guestmale:
You better thank God for his mercies that we are enjoying in Nigeria through the prayers of His servants, if not the situation could have been worst than this. Bible says righteousness exhort a nation while sin is a reproach,most of the leaders and the citizens of this country are
swimming in sins. You can't eat your eat your cake and still have it.

90% of Nigerians are potential thieves only waiting for the opportunity. Church is not the problem of Nigeria but the general citizens.

Then why do most citizens of Nigeria pray and worship like they are blameless yet are sinners,it therefore means we are deceiving ourselves

But before those enemies invaded your land and slaughtered your ancestors, why couldn't the wooden and mud gods of your ancestors protect them from invasion?

Reflect7:
Because you are worshiping the gods of your enemies, who invaded your land and slaughtered your ancestors.

They colonised you and demonised your glorious traditional spirituality, and imposed their Fake, non-existent “saviour” for you to pray to on the same land they defiled with your ancestors’ blood.

So why would you expect things to go well for you?

Go and keep praying to the gods of your enemies who slaughtered your ancestors and destroyed your civilisation.

One day they will hear your prayer.