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Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 8:39am On Jul 28, 2025
I think every single problem caused by Igbos began the day when Igbos abandoned farming and hunting and embraced trade with the British.

Trade culture requires constant seeking for new markets and customers, this is why there are Igbos everywhere, its practically impossible for Igbos to stay one place even if they wanted to, if Igbos were a minority it might be possible.

Another problem with trade dependence is the lack of adaptation, just imagine a nwaboy who has spent all his life as an apprentice, when it was finally time for him to be independent the market crashed. What other trade could he possibly do with his skillset? - Only crime is available to him especially trader crimes i.e. fraud, drug trafficking etc.

Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture.

Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by DarlingtonC: 9:01am On Jul 28, 2025
See mentality.

The Igbo trade culture is one of the enablers of seamless supply chain globally.

In fact, you take that advise yourself. Don't engage in any form of trade (either buying or selling), so we see that your wisdom in action.

People go just dey open mouth waaaaaaaa

*Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture*

For this your statement I highlighted, which school did you graduate from?

If you manufacture am finish, pack am inside your room
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by Elusive001: 9:06am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
I think every single problem caused by Igbos began the day when Igbos abandoned farming and hunting and embraced trade with the British.

Trade culture requires constant seeking for new markets and customers, this is why there are Igbos everywhere, its practically impossible for Igbos to stay one place even if they wanted to, if Igbos were a minority it might be possible.

Another problem with trade dependence is the lack of adaptation, just imagine a nwaboy who has spent all his life as an apprentice, when it was finally time for him to be independent the market crashed. What other trade could he possibly do with his skillset? - Only crime is available to him especially trader crimes i.e. fraud, drug trafficking etc.

Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture.

Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.
Please, what's your stake in the Igboman's economic style?
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by shortgun(m):
Really? So we should now demonize ambition to make Igbos look badcheesy
The Igbos didn’t abandon farming they diversified. Unlike groups who sat around waiting for colonial leftovers the Igbos adapted, embraced trade, industry and built businesses from scratch... even in hostile environments. I think they should be applauded.

All these will not stop Tinubu from being kicked out of office in 2027.
He has proven to be a failure and we continue to reject him
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by mrvitalis(m): 9:16am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
I think every single problem caused by Igbos began the day when Igbos abandoned farming and hunting and embraced trade with the British.

Trade culture requires constant seeking for new markets and customers, this is why there are Igbos everywhere, its practically impossible for Igbos to stay one place even if they wanted to, if Igbos were a minority it might be possible.

Another problem with trade dependence is the lack of adaptation, just imagine a nwaboy who has spent all his life as an apprentice, when it was finally time for him to be independent the market crashed. What other trade could he possibly do with his skillset? - Only crime is available to him especially trader crimes i.e. fraud, drug trafficking etc.

Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture.

Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.
Oga all they can do is what they are currently doing

Them no born their papa well to attack igbos... That stuff ended in 2006

The only thing igbos need to do is to bring 90% of their profit back Home... Don't invest in your host communities... Nah they don't like that... Just build a regular house because I know we hate rent... Own your business shop then send the rest back home

But the ultimate goal for every Igbo man should be to manufacture what you sale in Ala Igbo... Produce in Igbo land and sell all over the world
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by maiunguwar: 9:45am On Jul 28, 2025
Manufacturing culture is good, but you still need traders to market your goods
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 10:15am On Jul 28, 2025
DarlingtonC:
See mentality.

The Igbo trade culture is one of the enablers of seamless supply chain globally.

In fact, you take that advise yourself. Don't engage in any form of trade (either buying or selling), so we see that your wisdom in action.

People go just dey open mouth waaaaaaaa

*Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture*

For this your statement I highlighted, which school did you graduate from?

If you manufacture am finish, pack am inside your room
I'm not saying we don't need traders, i'm saying we don't need much of them especially a country like Nigeria that doesnt even manufacture much.

At the end of the day you have lots of traders with nothing to trade except fake products or illegal products.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 10:17am On Jul 28, 2025
shortgun:
[b]Really? So we should now demonize ambition to make Igbos look badcheesy
The Igbos didn’t abandon farming they diversified. Unlike groups who sat around waiting for colonial leftovers the Igbos adapted, embraced trade, industry and built businesses from scratch... even in hostile environments. I think they should be applauded.
I don't think people should be applauded for destabilizing their region's economy by abandoning their main produce for centuries and becoming dependent on other regions.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 10:18am On Jul 28, 2025
maiunguwar:
Manufacturing culture is good, but you still need traders to market your goods
Yes but you don't need an entire major tribe of them.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by stonemasonn: 10:19am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.
I thought it was the other way round...............
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by DarlingtonC: 10:20am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
I'm not saying we don't need traders, i'm saying we don't need much of them especially a country like Nigeria that doesnt even manufacture much.

At the end of the day you have lots of traders with nothing to trade except fake products or illegal products.
You don't have a point. #fact
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 10:29am On Jul 28, 2025
mrvitalis:
Oga all they can do is what they are currently doing

Them no born their papa well to attack igbos... That stuff ended in 2006

The only thing igbos need to do is to bring 90% of their profit back Home... Don't invest in your host communities... Nah they don't like that... Just build a regular house because I know we hate rent... Own your business shop then send the rest back home

But the ultimate goal for every Igbo man should be to manufacture what you sale in Ala Igbo... Produce in Igbo land and sell all over the world
Send the rest back home for who? The people in the village are equally fantasizing about coming to Lagos too, so you would have to encourage them to stay in the village and use the money your sending to build up the place, while you live in what they perceive to be a better place (goodluck with that).

Based on what ive seen so far the only thing produced in Igbo land are usually fake products / knockoff items, i don't doubt that there are lots of good businesses there, but those businesses hardly cross the region.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op):
DarlingtonC:
You don't have a point. #fact
My point is in the widespread Igbo crimes happening in Nigeria, Ghana, South Africa, Phillipines and India.

Where you have lots of Igbo traders you will have lots of trade crimes.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by mrvitalis(m): 10:37am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
Send the rest back home for who? The people in the village are equally fantasizing about coming to Lagos too, so you would have to encourage them to stay in the village and use the money your sending to build up the place, while you live in what they perceive to be a better place (goodluck with that).

Based on what ive seen so far the only thing produced in Igbo land are usually fake products / knockoff items, i don't doubt that there are lots of good businesses there, but those businesses hardly cross the region.
Onitsha is an Igbo City, Enugu, owerri, Aba
There is nothing you can build in Lagos that would not thrive in those cities... No body said take it to your village
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by aribisala0(m): 10:47am On Jul 28, 2025
DarlingtonC:
See mentality.

The Igbo trade culture is one of the enablers of seamless supply chain globally.

In fact, you take that advise yourself. Don't engage in any form of trade (either buying or selling), so we see that your wisdom in action.

People go just dey open mouth waaaaaaaa

*Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture*

For this your statement I highlighted, which school did you graduate from?

If you manufacture am finish, pack am inside your room
Nobody trades like that anymore on a major scale
Throwing in buzz phrases like seamless supply chain is just egoistic
That is sole trader type business model
Retail is dominated by billion dollar companies like Amazon, Walmart Alibaba etc

No Ibo trader can get audience with the CEOs of Apple, Sony, Samsung,Toyota, Michelin or Dangote



Big time manufacturers talk to big time retailers that is COMPANIES

The Iboes do not understand companies or business legacy
Most businesses started by an Ibo man dies with him
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 10:54am On Jul 28, 2025
stonemasonn:
I thought it was the other way round...............
We have examples of nomadic cultures...

We have Fulanis in the Northern Nigeria (and other parts of West Africa), we have the Mongols in North/East Asia, we have Bedouin in the Middle East.

In almost all cases the Nomadic tribes usually assimilated into the culture of their hosts and usually became a respected and integral part of that society.

The same could not be said about trader tribes like the Jews in Europe or the Armenians in the Ottoman Empire. Mind you despite having centuries to assimilate.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by Amumaigwe: 11:02am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
I think every single problem caused by Igbos began the day when Igbos abandoned farming and hunting and embraced trade with the British.

Trade culture requires constant seeking for new markets and customers, this is why there are Igbos everywhere, its practically impossible for Igbos to stay one place even if they wanted to, if Igbos were a minority it might be possible.

Another problem with trade dependence is the lack of adaptation, just imagine a nwaboy who has spent all his life as an apprentice, when it was finally time for him to be independent the market crashed. What other trade could he possibly do with his skillset? - Only crime is available to him especially trader crimes i.e. fraud, drug trafficking etc.

Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture.

Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.
Igbo apprenticeship system has been adopted by Harvard University as a classical measure they recommend for poverty eradication and wealth redistribution.
Argue with them

Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 11:06am On Jul 28, 2025
mrvitalis:
Onitsha is an Igbo City, Enugu, owerri, Aba
There is nothing you can build in Lagos that would not thrive in those cities... No body said take it to your village
You still havent answered the question of who will bell the cat?

When every Igbo man's dream is to be an Ogaranya in his own shop with his boy boy, who will do the building?
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by shortgun(m): 11:14am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
I don't think people should be applauded for destabilizing their region's economy by abandoning their main produce for centuries and becoming dependent on other regions.
So let me get this straight. A people devastated by war, stripped of assets, denied access to federal support and politically sidelined still managed to rebuild themselves through trade, self-reliance and enterprise…..and your complaint is that they didn’t stay in the village to farm yams and vegetables for your comfort?
It’s pathetic, really. Igbos aren’t in power, yet you blame them for your failures.
They’re not writing your policies, not holding your oil blocks, not controlling your budgets but they’re still your biggest fear?
This not politics anymore it's envy and hate on steroids.
Shame no dey catch una
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by shortgun(m): 11:34am On Jul 28, 2025
aribisala0:
Nobody trades like that anymore on a major scale
Throwing in buzz phrases like seamless supply chain is just egoistic
That is sole trader type business model
Retail is dominated by billion dollar companies like Amazon, Walmart Alibaba etc

No Ibo trader can get audience with the CEOs of Apple, Sony, Samsung,Toyota, Michelin or Dangote



Big time manufacturers talk to big time retailers that is COMPANIES

The Iboes do not understand companies or business legacy
Most businesses started by an Ibo man dies with him
This comment reeks of ignorance the kind that glorifies billion-dollar corporations while ignoring the very systems those companies are now copying from what Igbo traders and SMEs have done for decades.

As someone with a degree in business, let me educate you for free.

Across the world today, governments are actively promoting small and medium-scale enterprises (SMEs) as the backbone of economic development.
The World Bank, UNDP and even G7 countries push for entrepreneurship, localized production, value chains and inclusive growth exactly what Igbos have been doing since post-war Nigeria!


Why?
Because studies have shown that the overreliance on giant corporations like Walmart, Amazon or Dangote does not reduce poverty, does not empower communities and does not build resilient sustainable local economies. These corporations centralize wealth, automate jobs and eliminate competition while millions remain poor and dependent.

Big corporations don’t build nations small businesses do.
The U.S. economy for example, has over 33 million small businesses which account for over 99% of all employers.
Even in China, SMEs are responsible for 80% of urban jobs.
You really don’t understand how business works. CEOs don’t build economies...producers, buyers, and sellers do. Half of Apple’s supply chain is powered by micro-contractors and SMEs across Asia. Toyota's parts suppliers include hundreds of third-tier vendors who started small.
The biggest companies depend on ecosystems of small businesses to function!


You said Igbos don't understand business legacy and I laugh in Harvard cheesy
The Igbo apprenticeship system (Igba Boi) has now become a case study at Harvard and it’s being explored globally as a model for wealth transfer, mentorship and generational business sustainability.

You see, the difference is this:
While others idolize corporate boardrooms, Igbos build empires from markets. While you worship billionaires, they’re training the next generation through real-world business education on the street, in shops and in strategy.
That’s an organic economic strategy on steroids and not some imported foreign theory. cool
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by aribisala0(m):
shortgun:
This comment reeks of ignorance the kind that glorifies billion-dollar corporations while ignoring the very systems those companies are now copying from what Igbo traders and SMEs have done for decades.

As someone with a degree in business, let me educate you for free.

Across the world today, governments are actively promoting small and medium-scale enterprises (SMEs) as the backbone of economic development.
The World Bank, UNDP and even G7 countries push for entrepreneurship, localized production, value chains and inclusive growth exactly what Igbos have been doing since post-war Nigeria!


Why?
Because studies have shown that the overreliance on giant corporations like Walmart, Amazon or Dangote does not reduce poverty, does not empower communities and does not build resilient sustainable local economies. These corporations centralize wealth, automate jobs and eliminate competition while millions remain poor and dependent.

Big corporations don’t build nations small businesses do.
The U.S. economy for example, has over 33 million small businesses which account for over 99% of all employers.
Even in China, SMEs are responsible for 80% of urban jobs.
You really don’t understand how business works. CEOs don’t build economies...producers, buyers, and sellers do. Half of Apple’s supply chain is powered by micro-contractors and SMEs across Asia. Toyota's parts suppliers include hundreds of third-tier vendors who started small.
The biggest companies depend on ecosystems of small businesses to function!


You said Igbos don't understand business legacy and I laugh in Harvard cheesy
The Igbo apprenticeship system (Igba Boi) has now become a case study at Harvard and it’s being explored globally as a model for wealth transfer, mentorship and generational business sustainability.

You see, the difference is this:
While others idolize corporate boardrooms, Igbos build empires from markets. While you worship billionaires, they’re training the next generation through real-world business education on the street, in shops and in strategy.
That’s an organic economic strategy on steroids and not some imported foreign theory. cool
Too long
Rubbish
Empire?.. grin grin
Name one relevant business founded by an Ibo man that survived after he died
Prostitution is studied at Harvard
Organized crime is studied
Slave trave is studied too so what?
Are they copying it
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by Fejoku: 11:41am On Jul 28, 2025
shortgun:
So let me get this straight. A people devastated by war, stripped of assets, denied access to federal support and politically sidelined still managed to rebuild themselves through trade, self-reliance and enterprise…..and your complaint is that they didn’t stay in the village to farm yams and vegetables for your comfort?
It’s pathetic, really. Igbos aren’t in power, yet you blame them for your failures.
They’re not writing your policies, not holding your oil blocks, not controlling your budgets but they’re still your biggest fear?
This not politics anymore it's envy and hate on steroids.
Shame no dey catch una
This tells you all you need to know about them. They hate our guts so much as to want us being beggars. Unfortunately for them, we weren't created like that. We were created to be big players which we are becoming gradually. Our only problem is proper organization like the Germans. Once we get it right on that level, they will have to eat their hearts out.
One will think the person who started this thread has his own people as farmers and manufacturers but we all know that they all failed in every sector hence the poverty plaguing their region.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by arantess: 11:42am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
I think every single problem caused by Igbos began the day when Igbos abandoned farming and hunting and embraced trade with the British.

Trade culture requires constant seeking for new markets and customers, this is why there are Igbos everywhere, its practically impossible for Igbos to stay one place even if they wanted to, if Igbos were a minority it might be possible.

Another problem with trade dependence is the lack of adaptation, just imagine a nwaboy who has spent all his life as an apprentice, when it was finally time for him to be independent the market crashed. What other trade could he possibly do with his skillset? - Only crime is available to him especially trader crimes i.e. fraud, drug trafficking etc.

Igbos need to embrace a manufacturing culture and completely do away with trade culture.

Ps: Trade culture and nomadic culture have a lot in common but nomadic culture usually forces one to adapt to the land and therefore the culture of the land, trade culture does not do the same.
people hate what they cant understand.
fear what they cant conquer.

you will be alright
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op):
shortgun:
So let me get this straight. A people devastated by war, stripped of assets, denied access to federal support and politically sidelined still managed to rebuild themselves through trade, self-reliance and enterprise…..and your complaint is that they didn’t stay in the village to farm yams and vegetables for your comfort?
It’s pathetic, really. Igbos aren’t in power, yet you blame them for your failures.
They’re not writing your policies, not holding your oil blocks, not controlling your budgets but they’re still your biggest fear?
This not politics anymore it's envy and hate on steroids.
Shame no dey catch una
The war would probably not have happened if there weren't so many Igbos in the North and there wouldn't have been so many Igbos in the North if they didnt destabilize their region to embrace a trade culture.
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by mrvitalis(m): 11:48am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
You still havent answered the question of who will bell the cat?

When every Igbo man's dream is to be an Ogaranya in his own shop with his boy boy, who will do the building?
The dream would be to manufacture what you sale... Not just to own shops

The new boys still go out to sell then return to build factory or have their hotel and plazas in the east

How's that hard to understand
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by mrvitalis(m): 11:49am On Jul 28, 2025
danvon:
The war would probably not have happened if there weren't so many Igbos in the North and there wouldn't have been so many Igbos in the North if they didnt destabilize the region to embrace a trade culture.
How did Igbos get to the North, how did they end up in those positions? Especially when you look at the fact that in the early 1900 most Clarks and civil servants where Hausa/Fulani
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by aribisala0(m): 11:52am On Jul 28, 2025
shortgun:
So let me get this straight. A people devastated by war, stripped of assets, denied access to federal support and politically sidelined still managed to rebuild themselves through trade, self-reliance and enterprise…..and your complaint is that they didn’t stay in the village to farm yams and vegetables for your comfort?
It’s pathetic, really. Igbos aren’t in power, yet you blame them for your failures.
They’re not writing your policies, not holding your oil blocks, not controlling your budgets but they’re still your biggest fear?
This not politics anymore it's envy and hate on steroids.
Shame no dey catch una
denied access how? What access did the Ogoni or Kanuri get that Eboes did not?
Stripped of what assets ? Where
During the civil war they had allocation of £1 million a month Awolowo save it for 30 months and delivered it at the end
Politically sidelined how?. Less than 10 years after the war an Eboe man was,military governor of Lagos state, Vice President and Speaker House of Representatives in the first civilian administration. What position did Yoruba hold under Shagari
You just enjoy telling lies


ACB was recapitalized
Where is it today?

Wema bank is still standing

Eboes like to push this false victim narrative when their woes ware self inflicted
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by aribisala0(m):
mrvitalis:
How did Igbos get to the North, how did they end up in those positions? Especially when you look at the fact that in the early 1900 most Clarks and civil servants where Hausa/Fulani
Most clerks and civil servants were not Fulani
There was no civil service in 1900 . The British were still battling the Sokoto Caliphate in 1903

Go and watch Ahmadu Bello's video
What was he complaining about

Azikiwe was born in 1904 in Zungeru

So there were Eboes there at 5hat time
Re: Igbos Need To Abandon Trade Culture by danvon(op): 12:01pm On Jul 28, 2025
Amumaigwe:
Igbo apprenticeship system has been adopted by Harvard University as a classical measure they recommend for poverty eradication and wealth redistribution.
Argue with them
Apprenticeship by itself is not a bad thing, it has worked for centuries, and exists in many part of the world.

The problem is apprenticeship system that teaches nothing other than trade, how sustainable is that in the face of modern economy?

Mind you the popular Harvard Business School article praising apprenticeship system was written by none other than an Igbo man (makes one question the authenticity of the report)
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