₦airaland Forum

ednut1:
Alaafin is more powerful than ooni . Awolowo was the one who elevated ooni. They should add obi of onitsha to the list

Carry your Lawyer gown and wig and go to Court

chopnaira:
Yoruba was derived from Ori Oba or olori oba. It was what Malians called Ufe peopem that came to trade with them in glass beads, wheats and other stuffs. All you these apako nairaland historian

100 percent. I owe you a beer. I can tell a real historian when I see one.

And yes. Ancient Ife people traded with Malians

chopnaira:
Yoruba was derived from Ori Oba or olori oba. It was what Malians called Ufe peopem that came to trade with them in glass beads, wheats and other stuffs. All you these apako nairaland historian

Cut and join history!

Ori oba ko, ese oba ni

saddler:
Cut and join history!

Ori oba ko, ese oba ni

He is right. Check the screenshots below.

This sociopolitical oracisation of Igbo extraction is getting to its recesdo.

chopnaira:
You are confused by saying Oduduwa is a myth. If you go to Benin palace and tell them that, they will dislocate your head from your neck.

You need a dictionary to check the meaning of myth

zeuss:
Ife is subordinate to Benin kingdom by many centuries infact benin birthed the Yoruba monarch system. The title Oba is Benin copyright like Emir is caliphate copyright. The caliphate and Emirship is a foreign 19th century contraption

Your history book has K-leg. Google is your dear friend. No historian that worth it salt would disagree that Benin people migrated from old Ife-Kingdom,and how can a son gave birth to father?

Search for knowledge and info on this matter dear brother.

RenoOkriTheGoat:
Nigeria, a country with a failed government led by a drug miscreant.

Becare u can be arrested..just like the other guy that claimed he has die.

Ohanaeze is right. Nigeria is too multicultural to have just two ethnic traditional rulers as the co-presidents of a nationwide traditional council.

But every day, I see why IbeOkehie adores the King and Anglophones. Some racial groups in certain regions would never make it. It is not a curse, it is just the reality.

aribisala0:
You need a dictionary to check the meaning of myth

English is hard for you sha.

You said Oduduwa was not real but they already told you that there was a mythological and earthly oduduwa.

The below should make it clearer to you

Myths are based on historical events and people, but with later embellishments and supernatural elements.

Maybe they need to spell it out to you like ABC.

Goodvibes007:
English is hard for you sha.

You said Oduduwa was not real but they already told you that there was a mythological and earthly oduduwa.

The below should make it clearer to you

Myths are based on historical events and people, but with later embellishments and supernatural elements.

Maybe they need to spell it out to you like ABC.

I said Oduduwa was not real? Where? I think you are really struggling

zeuss:
Ife is subordinate to Benin kingdom by many centuries infact benin birthed the Yoruba monarch system. The title Oba is Benin copyright like Emir is caliphate copyright. The caliphate and Emirship is a foreign 19th century contraption

Benin commenced Obadhip from Oranmiyan that came from Ile Ife.

Benin practiced Ogiso system of ruling. That's based on the most oldest man recognized as leader of Ogisos.

koxyz:
The ideal thing is for the chairmanship to be rotated among the six geopolitical zones.

Privileged should not be accorded to certain traditional rulers at the expense of others

Fairness is the key word.

But some people have no kings.

That forum is unnecessary, politicians want to hijack our traditional stools also.

So nobody to represent the south south in that bill, this senate president is something else, if tinubu wins, I don’t see him coming back to that sit

Obi of Onitsha is the only first-class king recognized by all Igbos. We may also classify King Charles of UK as a first-class king.

Those Nigerian low-life individuals are not even up to third-class chiefs in Igboland.

zeuss:
Ife is subordinate to Benin kingdom by many centuries infact benin birthed the Yoruba monarch system. The title Oba is Benin copyright like Emir is caliphate copyright. The caliphate and Emirship is a foreign 19th century contraption

Sultan and Emir are religious titles and not traditional titles

tnerro1:
So nobody to represent the south south in that bill, this senate president is something else, if tinubu wins, I don’t see him coming back to that sit

Even obong of calabar stool that is older than sultan seat and king Jaja of Opobo that played important role not on the list

zeuss:
First, population does not translate to direction of development if it did, Nigeria for colonized Britain 100 times over,but the reverse is reality.
Benin Kingdom already had an ambassador in Portugal 200 years before the rise and spread of the oyo empire. You will not find Yoruba names in Benin folklore rather the reverse the reality.

No, I'm not using population to validate development superiority. I'm using population to say that the Benin or its monarchy cannot birth the Yoruba or its monarchy as you posted. It is more probable to say that both Kingdoms have separate origins. By vastness of the empire of Oyo, I meant to say a much lesser empire like that of the Benin kingdom cannot be the progenator of the Yoruba monarchy. The reverse will be the case. I also refuted your Oba title claim. The Benin king is an Ife prince because a Yoruba king once ruled Benin. You still have Yoruba fingerprints there in your palace. There's a place there where you bury Oyo kings in the Benin palace labelled Orun Ọba Oyo. You may erase all references to Yoruba In your traditions but you cannot completely remove the Yoruba fingerprints.

Here is what Wikipedia has to say.in the screenshot attached below.

This is consistent with your Omo 'n Oba title for your kings. They're Omo oba. Princes of a Yoruba king.

When the Igbos rules

Stability will be guaranteed in Nigeria.


For now..... The scale ⚖️ lacks balance

zeuss:
Ife is subordinate to Benin kingdom by many centuries infact benin birthed the Yoruba monarch system. The title Oba is Benin copyright like Emir is caliphate copyright. The caliphate and Emirship is a foreign 19th century contraption

😂😂😂ife surbodinate to Benin kingdom with just 5 local govt 😂😂😂 have you heard of Oyo empire? Well your oba of Benin is surbordinate to the ooni of ife and everyone vast in history knows this, even the picture below illustrates that fact, like you can see your oba seated behind the ooni of ife

ProfGday:
Your history book has K-leg. Google is your dear friend. No historian that worth it salt would disagree that Benin people migrated from old Ife-Kingdom,and how can a son gave birth to father?

Search for knowledge and info on this matter dear brother.

What kind of generalization is that?

Which history books have you read that tells you people of Benin originated from ife?

Who takes these criminals and ethnic bigots in ohanaeze serious? That organization is a fraud and disgrace to all decent law abiding Igbos. An organization that has never condemned i.p.o.b terrorists for killing and destruction of lives in the SE

ElSudani:
But some people have no kings.

They would elect a leader who will represent them .

Why are you people always bent on tribalist views and distorting history? All these historical distortions originated from the last Omo N’Oba, who attempted to re-write history! Simple question you need to answer (maybe by doing a little research on your own) is: what’s the literal meaning of “oba” in Benin (Edo) language? It has a well-defined, elementary meaning in Yoruba language.

zeuss:
Ife is subordinate to Benin kingdom by many centuries infact benin birthed the Yoruba monarch system. The title Oba is Benin copyright like Emir is caliphate copyright. The caliphate and Emirship is a foreign 19th century contraption

stampo:
When the Igbos rules

Stability will be guaranteed in Nigeria.


For now..... The scale ⚖️ lacks balance

The greatest mistake Nigerians will make is to elect an Igbo man as president….see ordinary small SE, they couldn’t stop I.p.0.b terrorists. Nigeria will be riddled with crime and the Igbo president will just look the other way

SatoshiX:
Who are these ones? 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 The earlier you lot understand you're third class in the pecking order, the better for you. Otherwise you can continue with your delulu

If they are third class then allow them to go.

Ooni and Sultan are First Class.

Ohaneze should keep quiet and maintain their 3rd Class.

saddler:
Yoruba was created by Ajayi Crowther.

Benin has been existing long before Yoruba.
What was known was Oyo and ife .

Oyo was even more relevant than ife and Benin is way older than Oyo because Oranmiyan left Benin before he established Oyo empire.

Correct to some extent. However, I want you to understand that Oranmiyan was himself a prince of a Yoruba king. That means Yoruba existed and had a monarchy before Oranmiyan ventured into Benin. Also, you need to note that Oyo is part of Yoruba. So, a reference to Oyo is not a reference to the whole Yoruba. So, while Oranmiyan left Benin to found the Oyo empire, it does not mean He founded the Yoruba people after leaving Benin. Please differentiate between Oyo and Benin. Oranmiyan's activities do not make Benin older than Oyo. Though it might be correct to say the Benin people existed in Nigeria before the Yoruba people settled in Nigeria. However, the Benin never ruled over Oyo but an Oyo Prince once ruled over Benin. I already attached a screenshot below - taken from Wikipedia.

The bone of contention is that the Benin monarchy cannot birth Yoruba monarchy. The Yoruba monarchy is too vast to be an offspring of the Benin monarchy.