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Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 2:25pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
She spoke for herself.
How many times do i need to say i wasn't being specific about first, second etc. She was the 4th.
She said I am a Palestinian. I hold a Palestinian Passport.
If you read my comment, you would understand why she called herself Palestinian; she wasn't born there, nor did she grow up there. This was all the British doing.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by UKEMY(m): 2:28pm On Jul 30, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
Nice.

I don’t accept why it is only the Palestinians that should make concessions again. They must think Hamas will be naive to hand over to PA after paying with blood for the liberty of Palestinians.

The only thing that can be a deterrent to the apartheid Israel against Palestinians is if Palestinians are armed and have a potent military arm like Hamas.

Where is Southern Lebanon today despite hosting international forces? It's currently being occupied by the IDF so this draft proposal must not come with the condition that Hamas disarm if they disarm, they are gone forever! It is a war they won with arms, they will be stupid to think otherwise. Beyind the positive optics of the conference, trust the west and Saudi Arabia at your peril. The war is a proxy war between Iran and USA

I support that the hostages be released though.
You are wrong on Southern Lebanon.
Hezbollah,one of the bloc in Lebanon,attacked Israel with thousands of Rockets and drones,Israel has no choice than to take down all their Generals ,Rocket Launchers, Rockets warehouse etc.

What has Hamas gained in this War?
Gaza was built by Israel,but pulled out in 2005 hoping that peace wil return but rather since Hamas took over from Fatah,they have been attacking Israel.

Peace is the only way and it should be a one on one Direct Negotiation between Israel and Palestinian(Hamas,Fatah)
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by UKEMY(m): 2:35pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
The first prime minister was polish/Russian, and later migrated to Palestine, that video was doctored. Palestine had no passport at that time until the 1940s.
How can someone that ruled in 1920s own a passport
The Way some of Una dey talk ehhh.
For almost 70 years Hamas and PLO has been doing same thing but hasn't achieved any Result but keep allowing their Muslim brothers to Invite them to fight and kill Jews.

The Al aqsa Mosque that the Ottoman Built have you asked what was standing there before it was erected on that same Synagogue?
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by mikeapollo: 2:46pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
Is France alone?

The State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, which is just over 75% of all UN members. This number has increased recently with several countries, including Ireland, Norway, Spain, and France (who announced they will formalize their decision in September), recognizing Palestine. - Culled.

Look, no one can enslave a nation forever in this modern world. No matter what you guys think, Palestine will be free.
Recognition on paper that does not hold water.
After the so called recognition, let them fly their plane and visit the place, hold rally and elections and let's see. Useless recognition!

The land belong to Israel
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 2:51pm On Jul 30, 2025
mikeapollo:
Recognition on paper that does not hold water.
After the so called recognition, let them fly their plane and visit the place, hold rally and elections and let's see. Useless recognition!

The land belong to Israel
I am not arguing. I am not saying when or how. All I know is you cannot enslave a people forever. Palestine will be free.

The freedom of black South Africa started one step at a time.

It is similar.

Sad, that Africans who suffered the same thing wish it upon others.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 2:52pm On Jul 30, 2025
UKEMY:
The Way some of Una dey talk ehhh.
For almost 70 years Hamas and PLO has been doing same thing but hasn't achieved any Result but keep allowing their Muslim brothers to Invite them to fight and kill Jews.

The Al aqsa Mosque that the Ottoman Built have you asked what was standing there before it was erected on that same Synagogue?
What's your point? I am not pro-Hamas
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 2:53pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
If you read my comment, you would understand why she called herself Palestinian; she wasn't born there, nor did she grow up there. This was all the British doing.
Who doesn't get that? The fact is this. The British colonized vast parts of the world. Same argument can be made for many people around the globe of that generation in different countries.

The point is before 1948 there was nothing like Israel. There was Palestine.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 2:57pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
Who doesn't get that? The fact is this. The British colonized vast parts of the world. Same argument can be made for many people around the globe of that generation I'm different countries.

The point is before 1948 there was nothing like Israel. There was Palestine.
lol you said there was nothing like Israel? Israel existed before England; Israel was there in Genesis.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 3:03pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
lol you said there was nothing like Israel? Israel existed before England; Israel was there in Genesis.
I mean there was no Political State called Israel before 1948, and I am referring to the modern era.

As for ancient Israel, the people who lived there are not certain to be the same Europeans who have now colonised the place. Modern Israel is basically an European Colonial Settler Apartheid Imperialist Project.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 3:10pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
I mean there was no Political State called Israel before 1948, and I am referring to the modern era.

As for ancient Israel, the people who lived there are not certain to be the same Europeans who have now colonised the place. Modern Israel is basically an European Colonial Settler Apartheid Imperialist Project.
While there are a lot of white people in Israel today, the majority of them look like arabs, you can barely tell the difference.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by Thelife: 3:28pm On Jul 30, 2025
mikeapollo:
Recognition on paper that does not hold water.
After the so called recognition, let them fly their plane and visit the place, hold rally and elections and let's see. Useless recognition!

The land belong to Israel
That one is even small. I dare them to move their embassy to Gaza 😂😂
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by Thelife: 3:33pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
While there are a lot of white people in Israel today, the majority of them look like arabs, you can barely tell the difference.
That's the truth they failed to accept.

70% of the Jewish in Israel are those Semite Jew that was massacre and chased out of all islamic countries. They keep crying Palestine Palestine, asked them to tell you one Palestine leader before the creation of the state of Israel, they will start crying.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 3:40pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
While there are a lot of white people in Israel today, the majority of them look like arabs, you can barely tell the difference.
That is not true. Most look simply white. Check well.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 3:50pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
That is not true. Most look simply white. Check well.
The ones I have seen personally are not white. It's just that dressing and hijab differentiate them.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 3:51pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
The ones I have seen personally are not white. It's just that dressing and hijab differentiate them.
Of course there are browner ones, but believe you me, its an European colonial white imperialist foothold.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 3:54pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
Of course there are browner ones, but believe you me, its an European colonial white imperialist foothold.
I don't see white when I look at Israeli people. The Syrians are lighter in complexion.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 4:00pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
I don't see white when I look at Israeli people. The Syrians are lighter in complexion.
LOL!
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 4:03pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
Of course there are browner ones, but believe you me, its an European colonial white imperialist foothold.
You probably have seen a white person stand next to an Israeli
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 5:08pm On Jul 30, 2025
miketayo:
You probably have seen a white person stand next to an Israeli
Lol!!!!!

My dear, let's just say I have been around.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by miketayo(m): 5:23pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
Lol!!!!!

My dear, let's just say I have been around.
hmmm, well I am around cheesy
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeOTR: 7:41pm On Jul 30, 2025
AbdulHakeem44:
By your logic, if Nigeria finds out that boko haram has been entering Nigeria through Mali or Niger, Nigeria should wipe the whole of Malians or Nigeriens citizens because of the atrocities of a minority terrorist group, is that what you mean?
Boko Haram is not the official government of Niger or Mali. Hamas is the official government of the so-called Palestine. Do you now see the difference when your government is an official terrorist organization?
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeOTR: 7:48pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeepSight:
Who doesn't get that? The fact is this. The British colonized vast parts of the world. Same argument can be made for many people around the globe of that generation in different countries.

The point is before 1948 there was nothing like Israel. There was Palestine.
Of course, Israel the son of Isaac, the grandson of Abraham never existed according to you. We all know the inhabitants of that land for over 3000 years and they are no Arabs. Let's start from there.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeepSight(m): 7:58pm On Jul 30, 2025
DeOTR:
Of course, Israel the son of Isaac, the grandson of Abraham never existed according to you. We all know the inhabitants of that land for over 3000 years and they are no Arabs. Let's start from there.
Why start from there?
Abraham met people there when he came from Ur of the Chaldeans.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by monex(m): 9:20pm On Jul 30, 2025
FreeStuffsNG:
Nice.

I don’t accept why it is only the Palestinians that should make concessions again. They must think Hamas will be naive to hand over to PA after paying with blood for the liberty of Palestinians.

The only thing that can be a deterrent to the apartheid Israel against Palestinians is if Palestinians are armed and have a potent military arm like Hamas.

Where is Southern Lebanon today despite hosting international forces? It's currently being occupied by the IDF so this draft proposal must not come with the condition that Hamas disarm if they disarm, they are gone forever! It is a war they won with arms, they will be stupid to think otherwise. Beyind the positive optics of the conference, trust the west and Saudi Arabia at your peril. The war is a proxy war between Iran and USA

I support that the hostages be released though.
once you bring Hamas into this equation, you nullify everything. A demilitarised Hamas is unfortunately a non-negotiable. Oct 7 was a mistake by Hamas
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by mastermaestro(m): 10:06pm On Jul 30, 2025
France, an African-dependent nation, playing to the gallery as usual. Israel will be the ultimate decider if there will ever be a Palestinian state. One on one, can France match Israel? Make Macron go sleep. Netanyau sees him as a lousy clown. cheesy
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by Okoroemekah: 6:54am On Jul 31, 2025
malali:
You make good points...Israel is afraid of an armed Palestinians, because of the atrocities they have committed in the name of fighting Hamas.
Only way there can be peace is to make them completely independent, Airport and business in Palestine and give them their passport and have a demilitarized zone between them, like we have in north Korea and south Korea. If Hamas drops their arms....Israel will kill all of them without batting an eyelid....They will kill Palestinians and Hamas alike. They wont spare anyone.Hostages should be released with a deal in place. Signed by all the factions with witnesses.
The Palestinians has rejected peace and a two state solution in 5 different times.they insisted that there is nothing like isreal that it will be wiped off the map.now tell me who is planning genocide?
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by billyG(m): 7:42am On Jul 31, 2025
DeepSight:
Not being specific to first or second

Please have a look and learn sir. Golda Meir. Among the earlier PMs of Israel.

Botragelad - it's easy to talk. Without knowing. She called herself a Palestinian and travelled on a Palestinian Passport. And you sit here and talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixbdlUhELoU?si=UVPCw29A1wOpyq6t
The word Palestine has been abused, this present day d word means Arabs migrants(Palestinians) who occupied there now.
British Palestine include d Jews,Arabs,druzes, Jordanians & Syria who lives there(1920-1948).
The original owners has d right to renamed that region back.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by seyenko(m): 4:55pm On Jul 31, 2025
What was offered is a two-state solution where Israel, which accounts for 7% of the population, takes 60% of the land, and 100% of the agriculturally viable land. This is not a mutually beneficial two-state solution. Every right-thinking person will reject such an arrangement.

Botragelad:
Did Hamas and the so-called Palestinians not reject the 1947 UN Partition Plan that offered them a state alongside Israel? Instead of building their future, they teamed up with five Arab armies and tried to wipe Israel off the map in 1948, and they failed.

These same Palestinians have repeatedly refused peace deals and two-state offers for decades. So why the sudden backpedalling? Lol
What do these Islamist groups really want? It’s not peace, they’ve made that clear.

There has never been a country called Palestine, and the idea of carving one just to give terrorists a launching pad is likely never going to happen.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by Omozeez1(m): 7:26am On Aug 01, 2025
Are u aware that only USA vote overide 147 bites u are talking about?
DeepSight:
Is France alone?

The State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, which is just over 75% of all UN members. This number has increased recently with several countries, including Ireland, Norway, Spain, and France (who announced they will formalize their decision in September), recognizing Palestine. - Culled.

Look, no one can enslave a nation forever in this modern world. No matter what you guys think, Palestine will be free.
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by Omozeez1(m): 7:27am On Aug 01, 2025
Omozeez1:
Are u aware that only USA vote overide 147 votes u are talking about?
Re: Saudi, France Issue Joint UN Declaration For 2-state Solution, End To Gaza War by DeOTR: 11:00am On Aug 01, 2025
DeepSight:
Why start from there?
Abraham met people there when he came from Ur of the Chaldeans.
For all I know, the people he met there were not Arabs, no?
It's OK for you to say Israel doesn't exist until 1948? Do you even know the meaning of Israel, the twelve tribes? Of course you don't.
Do you even know the Jews were the majority tribe in Medina until they got dislodged?
Majority of the people you call Palestinians are actually natively from Jordan or do you want to argue that too? What you don't know is beyond you.
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