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Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by budaatum: 4:24pm On Aug 02, 2025
MichaelSokoto:
appointing a Nigerian would be a quicker path to death for d refinery...

if u know u know!
wink


pls ayam not bn sentimental, Jez bn factual.
cool
I can't disagree with you, see my above.

It is what is sad about this.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Gboss247(m): 4:33pm On Aug 02, 2025
budaatum:
Looks like Devakumar is a builder, and not a manager. Different skills set.

Sad though, that Dangote could not find a Nigerian.
Sad Ke?
Devakumar is the vice president of Dangote Industries Limited (DIL), the conglomerates that holds majority shareholders in all Dangote businesses.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by budaatum: 4:36pm On Aug 02, 2025
Gerrard59:
There aren't many Nigerians with refining experience on a global scale. Before his refinery, Nigeria was a major importer of petroleum products. So where would have such Nigerians obtained cognate experience from?
I do agree. Oil business is way more than our buying and selling.

Dangote should make his refinery a university where Nigerians can be trained and get world recognised degrees. In fact, I make a note now to write to tell David Bird to bring us some shells.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Frezhkid10(m): 4:47pm On Aug 02, 2025
budaatum:
Looks like Devakumar is a builder, and not a manager. Different skills set.

Sad though, that Dangote could not find a Nigerian.
No nigerian has refinery experience nah..Abi make dem employ NNPC peeps make dem turn the refinery to maintenance assets?? grin
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Frezhkid10(m): 4:48pm On Aug 02, 2025
SmartPolician:
Congratulations to David Bird. Dangote clearly needed a Caucasian for the role probably for business reasons. If not, there are many qualified Nigerians who can do the job.
Abeg which Nigerian has managed a refinery successfully before??..Abi didn’t you read the portfolio of this guy??
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Frezhkid10(m): 4:51pm On Aug 02, 2025
aribisala0:
He was never. VP of the refinery

Why do people find it hard to admit when they are wrong

What do you mean by AS A VP

VP of. what exactly?.


If truly he was VP of refinery who was president

The. Simple truth is you have a psychological need to be right which is an ego problem
Not VP of refinery but VP of dangote industries..dangote himself is the President of Dangote industries limited..under DIL..that’s when you have the different segment of the business..the sugar, cement, oil and gas, logistics.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by harmargedon: 4:51pm On Aug 02, 2025
budaatum:
He will have loads of Nigerians in equally trust needy positions, proven too, since he can internally promote.

I think it is experience and knowledge and contacts in the business that might have excluded a Nigerian. This guy has to make that refinery work and not be tribally hampered, which might affect a Nigerian, perhaps.

What I do like about Dangote is, he does not seem to care about tribe, least going by his directors.
bro, go and watch Dangote's interview when he was asked why he uses Indians instead of Nigerians. Then come back to prove what i wrote wrong.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by budaatum: 4:53pm On Aug 02, 2025
Gboss247:
Sad Ke?
Devakumar is the vice president of Dangote Industries Limited (DIL), the conglomerates that holds majority shareholders in all Dangote businesses.
He is very experienced too. And better placed for growth than tied down to a refinery.

https://www.dangote.com/about-us/devakumar-v-g-edwin/
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by budaatum: 4:57pm On Aug 02, 2025
harmargedon:
bro, go and watch Dangote's interview when he was asked why he uses Indians instead of Nigerians. Then come back to prove what i wrote wrong.
If you read my other posts here you would not ask me to prove what you wrote wrong.

Even the post you quoted agrees with you more than disagree, except for the reasons I gave.

If you have this Dangote interview, link please.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Paut(m): 5:02pm On Aug 02, 2025
Gentledove2001:
No one should say that dangote didn't use a Nigerian, international business is not the same as local business. Dangote also source crude oil from other countries too. Is a personal business.
Una don come again to raise arguments
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by zealousayo(m): 5:14pm On Aug 02, 2025
aribisala0:
He was never. VP of the refinery

Why do people find it hard to admit when they are wrong

What do you mean by AS A VP

VP of. what exactly?.


If truly he was VP of refinery who was president

The. Simple truth is you have a psychological need to be right which is an ego problem
DVG Edwin is the Vice President in charge of the refinery and fertilizer.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Saao(m): 5:21pm On Aug 02, 2025
budaatum:
Looks like Devakumar is a builder, and not a manager. Different skills set.

Sad though, that Dangote could not find a Nigerian.
hmm Nigerian? Nigerian will sabotage his effort
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 5:27pm On Aug 02, 2025
helinues:
Over a decade ago, I read somewhere how to make money without doing anything. I actually thought it was real I until I started reading the article .

Before you can make money without doing anything, you must have done something to warrant that. Then I started something, spent time, spent resources for a decade to build whatever. It took a decade to start bringing something effortlessly.

The point is, no short cut to success, forget about the story of an overnight fortune, to make real money and be successful, you must work your way smartly.

Back to the Dangote's new CEO, the man can never be jobless as he had done things in the past to be giving him different appointments.

No time to start than now.

Congratulations
Makes sense to me....the man is in the product stage, only producers can hire him ...
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by budaatum: 5:34pm On Aug 02, 2025
Saao:
hmm Nigerian? Nigerian will sabotage his effort
It is very sad isn't it.

Da once managed a huge farm that produced frozen chicken. One day the owner called him and said he's fired for not letting people steal his chicken. He'd set it up so his family steal the chicken and don't steal his granite and pharmacy and other businesses, but I guess da wasn't up with the strategy.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by aribisala0(m): 5:38pm On Aug 02, 2025
zealousayo:
DVG Edwin is the Vice President in charge of the refinery and fertilizer.
He was not vice president OF THE REFINERY so do not come to play childish word games
I have no time for games
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Karlifate: 5:55pm On Aug 02, 2025
Enice:
Oga, stop talking rubbish. Go to google and check the profile of Devakumar Edwin, his job description clashed with that of the new CEO. That was why I asked that question. Would Mr Devakumar be relieved of some duties! That's the question.
There's nothing "clashing" anywhere angry


Mr Edwin is the Vice President, Dangote Industries Limited

Mr Bird is the CEO of Dangote Petroleum Refinery and Petrochemicals
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Karlifate: 6:01pm On Aug 02, 2025
harmargedon:
he does not trust a Nigerian for that position, from my end, i have seen what an average nigerian have done to peoples businesses. it would seem like they were sent to destroy you, all they care about is how to cash out from the owner
The Chairman of Dangote Cement is a Nigerian, South-South precisely.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Maitunbi: 6:18pm On Aug 02, 2025
budaatum:
Looks like Devakumar is a builder, and not a manager. Different skills set.

Sad though, that Dangote could not find a Nigerian.
Forgive me for saying this but Nigerians are not exactly known for excellence. Whites are way better than Nigerians as managers and organisers.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by aribisala0(m): 6:21pm On Aug 02, 2025
harmargedon:
he does not trust a Nigerian for that position, from my end, i have seen what an average nigerian have done to peoples businesses. it would seem like they were sent to destroy you, all they care about is how to cash out from the owner
If he were to appoint a Nigerian where would he find him? I am not saying they don't exist just asking what job would that Nigerian have been doing 2 months ago specifically? Presumably he won't appoint an idle or jobless person
Maybe from Shell or Mobil?
But those companies hoard knowledge they don't share expertise

Take Julius Berger after 50 years go to any major project you still find white people
They put Nigerian engineers on a desk
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by harmargedon: 6:24pm On Aug 02, 2025
Karlifate:
The Chairman of Dangote Cement is a Nigerian, South-South precisely.
to what ratio of indians?
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by aribisala0(m): 6:24pm On Aug 02, 2025
Maitunbi:
Forgive me for saying this but Nigerians are not exactly known for excellence. Whites are way better than Nigerians as managers and organisers.
Nigerians are known for excellence
Your field of knowledge is narrow, very narrow
Organiser?
Who organised the refinery?

Is Dangote German

You just talk without thinking
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by harmargedon: 6:27pm On Aug 02, 2025
budaatum:
If you read my other posts here you would not ask me to prove what you wrote wrong.

Even the post you quoted agrees with you more than disagree, except for the reasons I gave.

If you have this Dangote interview, link please. and you think there are no Nigerians with that experience?, your post shows how you think. FYI, there are a whole lot of Nigerians with the experience required.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Bsssss: 6:34pm On Aug 02, 2025
budaatum:
Looks like Devakumar is a builder, and not a manager. Different skills set.

Sad though, that Dangote could not find a Nigerian.
There's nothing sad about it. Many Nigerians who play for big clubs wouldn't have make name for themselves if the club owners are focused on getting players from their country. In the game of entrepreneurship, talent matters more than anything else. Dangote doesn't care if the cat is white or black in as much as it catches mice.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by harmargedon: 6:35pm On Aug 02, 2025
aribisala0:
If he were to appoint a Nigerian where would he find him? I am not saying they don't exist just asking what job would that Nigerian have been doing 2 months ago specifically? Presumably he won't appoint an idle or jobless person
Maybe from Shell or Mobil?
But those companies hoard knowledge they don't share expertise

Take Julius Berger after 50 years go to any major project you still find white people
They put Nigerian engineers on a desk
take it from me, there are Nigerians home and abroad with the experience. He's using whites not because the Nigerians can't do it, but they see it as a way to boost their economy by bringing themselves and retaining their importance in the country. By so doing, they are telling the people that Nigerians are incapable. imagine Indians here programing PLC all the way from India, and while i was speaking to someone in engineering field that Nigerians have people that could do the same, he didn't believe until he made his research.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by harmargedon: 6:37pm On Aug 02, 2025
Gentledove2001:
No one should say that dangote didn't use a Nigerian, international business is not the same as local business. Dangote also source crude oil from other countries too. Is a personal business.
baba rest, why didn't TOTAL or SHELL use a Nigerian?
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by aribisala0(m): 6:38pm On Aug 02, 2025
harmargedon:
take it from me, there are Nigerians home and abroad with the experience. He's using whites not because the Nigerians can't do it, but they see it as a way to boost their economy by bringing themselves and retaining their importance in the country. By so doing, they are telling the people that Nigerians are incapable. imagine Indians here programing PLC all the way from India, and while i was speaking to someone in engineering field that Nigerians have people that could do the same, he didn't believe until he made his research.
You don't know this
Unless he told you this in your WhatsApp group chat
It is just an idea you like
It is not objective reality
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by harmargedon: 6:39pm On Aug 02, 2025
Goodlady:
Nigerians o.
Dango remember ya country men. Try them for two years and see the difference.
the thing is dangote doesn't trust Nigerians and i don't blame him, because i have had first hand experience on how an average nigerian can ruin a persons business.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by harmargedon: 6:39pm On Aug 02, 2025
aribisala0:
You don't know this
Unless he told you this in your WhatsApp group chat
It is just an idea you like
It is not objective reality
I have worked with Indians that said the same.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by budaatum:
Bsssss:
There's nothing sad about it. Many Nigerians who play for big clubs wouldn't have make name for themselves if the club owners are focused on getting players from their country. In the game of entrepreneurship, talent matters more than anything else. Dangote doesn't care if the cat is white or black in as much as it catches mice.
You must have stolen this from right inside my mind. He wouldn't have 20b to invest otherwise.

I am sad a Nigerian did not qualify.
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by aribisala0(m): 6:45pm On Aug 02, 2025
harmargedon:
baba rest, why didn't TOTAL or SHELL use a Nigerian?
They are not the same
They are in different businesses one is upstream and another is downstream

I can speak about. SHELL

the SHELL CEO tends to rise through the ranks over decades. Even at that they bring in a technical director to oversee operations

Dangote refinery is a single Mega operation unlike SHELL that does several different upstream activities across several Niger Delta states while the CEO. IS IN. LAGOS
REPEAT LAGOS.

The CEO does not directly oversee daily operations
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by aribisala0(m): 6:46pm On Aug 02, 2025
harmargedon:
I have worked with Indians that said the same.
So what?
That some is true once means it is always true?
Re: Dangote Refinery Appoints David Bird, Ex-shell Executive, As CEO by Bluntemperor: 6:59pm On Aug 02, 2025
That is a Beautiful Strategic Move- by using a well experienced Expert(s) from Ex - Staff from Shell Company and this is a Big DIFFERENCE from local people,as you can see the bright future in Dangote Refinery.
This is different from when Nigeria was going Privatisations of NEPA and the GEJ Govt through MANIPULATIONS ( of course I am not blaming him entirely because of so much Pressures,but he shouldn't have sent the General Electric home) and he Should Have Stand his ground - As A President as everything falls on him and they brought in Locals who Could Not Performed to transform light 🚨 in NEPA to DISCOS- so we only see Name Changes but No Light!
THAT ITSELF IS CORRUPTION 💯 and as at today,most of Nigerian States-are in Total Darkness!
Very Terrible 😔.
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