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If the north cannot support Obi. No problem if Obi didn’t win then tinubu will continue

twilliamx:
Agbaya in baba, Eni to ba ni Lamba ni baba and obi is full of it.

Ayenfeomoigbo, I see what you did there
Obi na king of lamba. He lies effortlessly, must be in his DNA.

emirate9:
4yrs is a long time to reconfigure the country .... as evidently seen by yaradua administration

if under 2yrs, yaradua could keep fuel pump price @ low and reversed sales of national asset .. its enough testament that willingness and being intentional is all it takes ...


Mandela did great in 4yrs ... just one term thats enough testament. our leaders deliberately feign clueless, incapacity and stall just to enjoy opulence much longer

The thing is none of the candidates are really campaigning or telling how the things that can change Nigeria in 4 years. Some are even speaking against coastal road or airport reconstruction, America became successful largely due to ease of connection within their country. The candidates we have are all focused on saying they will right corruption or build roads or not waste public funds. Those are the not issues. No one can fight corruption, only a working system can do that.

What will change the country is actually having workable and sustainable programs and backing them up with law. We need a system that rewards and punish good or bad behavior. We need a system that is self sustainable.

Obj and Tinubu as governor are the only two who have actually done that. For Obj even opposition couldn't change banking reforms, pension reforms, health insurance reforms etc. On Tinubu's part, Lawma (psp), BRT have been self sustainable too. Also, his vision for the Lagos island/Eti Osa real estate axis. One could argue his successors didn't allow the plan fail but OBJ's own was top notch otherwise the country would have been in ruins.

Yar'adua reversing the sale of assets set us back and even reversing the removal of fuel subsidies was a No. We need total deregulation and that will force prices down not govt controlling prices. Look at Glo and MTN today, Glo destroyed monopoly and made sim available to the poor of the poorest. The more govt controls anything the more it fails.

emirate9:
4yrs is a long time to reconfigure the country .... as evidently seen by yaradua administration

if under 2yrs, yaradua could keep fuel pump price @ low and reversed sales of national asset .. its enough testament that willingness and being intentional is all it takes ...


Mandela did great in 4yrs ... just one term thats enough testament. our leaders deliberately feign clueless, incapacity and stall just to enjoy opulence much longer

There is a lot of romanticised revisionism attached to Yar Adua's Presidency because he died perhaps because many human being s are sycophantic and tend to wax lyrical about the dead.

To me, and sorry to offend his fans, Yar Adua achieved nothing special. I can only be impressed by fundamental changes and reforms that will move Nigeria onwards to becoming a developed nation.

Yar Adua touched non of those badly needed and fundamentally transformative reforms.

While things may have been relatively stable under him, truth is that this is not difficult to achieve for a President (as most have been since 1999 including OBJ) who is gradualist and not a reformer in the mould of some visionary leaders worldwide have been to earn them the tag "father of nations" for completely transforming for the better the life of a people.


All what you describe are simply gradualist actions bro. No Nigerian President since 1999, for example, compare to say Mustafa Ataturk referred to as "the father of Turkey".

Tinubu can , by the time he steps down, because of brave and never-before-seen reforms he is making. Truly great leaders don't just keep boats afloat. They move it onwards towards it's intended destination.

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is referred to as the "Father of the Turks" primarily due to his pivotal role in the establishment of the Republic of Turkey and his significant contributions to modernizing and secularizing the nation. Here are some key reasons for this title:

Nation-Building:
Atatürk led the Turkish War of Independence (1919-1923) after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, successfully establishing Turkey as a sovereign nation. His leadership was crucial in unifying various ethnic groups within the territory, fostering a sense of national identity.

Reforms:
He implemented extensive reforms that transformed Turkish society, including the adoption of a new legal system, the Latin alphabet, and secular education. These changes aimed to modernize Turkey and promote a sense of national pride and unity.

Cultural Identity:
Atatürk emphasized Turkish nationalism, encouraging citizens to embrace a Turkish identity rather than an Ottoman or ethnic identity. This helped solidify the concept of a unified Turkish nation-state.

Secularism:
He separated religion from politics, establishing a secular government. This move was instrumental in shaping the modern Turkish state and ensuring that it was inclusive of various ethnicities and religions.

Legacy:
His vision and policies laid the foundation for contemporary Turkey, and he is widely revered in the country.

The title "Father of the Turks" reflects the respect and admiration he garnered for his role in shaping modern Turkish identity and governance.

While Atatürk had Kurdish and Albanian ancestry and was not ethnically Turkish in the narrow sense, his legacy transcends ethnic boundaries, as he is recognized for his contributions to the Turkish state and its people as a whole.

Kukutente23:
Politics aside, a lot can be achieved in four years. Fuel subsidy is gone was in a day.

The removal of subsidy which you lot vilified Tinubu for is that you have now turned around to regard as an achievement.

Anyway, Peter Obi has credibility issues and his words don't carry weight. No one believes him anymore.

WizardOfNG:
There is a lot of romanticised revisionism attached to Yar Adua's Presidency because he died perhaps because many human being s are sycophantic and tend to wax lyrical about the dead.

To me, and sorry to offend his fans, Yar Adua achieved nothing special. I can only be impressed by fundamental changes and reforms that will move Nigeria o wards ti becoming a developed nation.

Yar Adua was President when one of the biggest heists in Nigeria was committed.

Sayyadi Abba Ruma as Minister of Agriculture used 200Billion to buy fertilisers. That's an equivalent of 3 Billion Dollars today.
Fertilisers, we didn't see. Money, we couldn't get.

Whiteshield:
The removal of subsidy which you lot vilified Tinubu for is that you have now turned around to regard as an achievement.

Anyway, Peter Obi has credibility issues and his words don't carry weight. No one believes him anymore.

There are positive and negative achievements dear lad
Achievements are not necessarily positive
A thief who steals your TV will count it as an achievement

Kukutente23:
There are positive and negative achievements dear lad
Achievements are not necessarily positive
A thief who steals your TV will count it as an achievement

This exactly is how you'll rationalise Obi's spectacular failure.

Obi's problem is d Norths corner eyeballin of d igbos due to Biafra experience...

if u exclude d North from any contest with just OBi vs emilokan alone in d ring, election will be over b4 10am dat morning wit Obi declared d winner

Nemere2020:
https://leadership.ng/acf-rejects-peter-obis-reiterated-one-term-pledge/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

So, does it mean that after one term, he can't be voted out? Or is there something they aren't telling us about elections and the power of the incumbent

Whiteshield:
The removal of subsidy which you lot vilified Tinubu for is that you have now turned around to regard as an achievement.

Anyway, Peter Obi has credibility issues and his words don't carry weight. No one believes him anymore.

Don't mind them. Every President that has come to power since 1999 is aware subsidy must go for Nigeria to make progress by taking optimal and nationally beneficial advantage of her greatest endowment i.e crude oil.

Nations with crude oil endowment become "developed nations" by selling refined derivative of crude, i.e PMS etal , to others worldwide.

Never can those 'lucky nations become anything by sabotaging their own refineries to then enact a scam against their people where the crude endowment meant to uplift the socio-economic fortunes of a nation turns into a curse against her development as happened to Nigeria.

Yet all President post 1999, knowing the above, allowed themselves to be convinced, by cabalistic looters, of the slush fund control of the fuel subsidy scam ,by the Presidency, can be to aid wealth acquisition, funding of election wins, etc, etc.

Fuel subsidy was formally introduced in 1977 by Obasanjo who was then Military head of State.

Every President since, to include Obasanjo who was our first democratic President in the post 1999 era, have capitulated to retain fuel subsidy.

Not Tinubu who had the political will and unimpeachable love of Nigeria and Nigerians to do what he knew he would be hated for yet had to be done to transform Nigeria for the better.

That act alone, along with several others he has carried out, shows PBAT is a President with an innovative eye on reforming Nigeria to become much better regardless of the cost to his own ambition.

Walai:
Nope, a President that wants to work will simply dismantle the structures holding the country down, retire old corrupt politicians and then install his successor that will carry on with his agenda. Four years is more than enough to achieve it, Jerry Rawlings did it in Ghana remember

why do you chose to lie like this . Rawlings ruled Ghana for nearly 20yrs both as democratically elected and military he completed his second term as a president.

You’re lying just to defend another lie and you think you won’t get exposed? Hide your face in shame.

seunmsg:
Beyond the politics, what exactly can any president achieve in four years ? A president gets sworn in on 29th May of the election, he has to set up his government and he’s going to struggle with this for another 3-6 months. Even at that, he inherits a budget he knows absolutely nothing about from the former president and by law, he has to implement it.

Then there are various governors, senators, Reps and powerful political figures with diverse interests to deal with. By the end of the second year, political coalitions start springing up and politics has to take the center stage again. Boom, it’s four years and nothing much has changed.

It took Lee Kuan Yew 31 years to set Singapore on the path of sustained economic development. Paul Kagame has been president of Rwanda for the past 25 years and he’s still president because Rwanda is still not there yet.

So, anyone telling you all he needs to perform magic and turn a big, economically challenged, infrastructurally decayed, ethnically disunited and religiously divided Nigeria to Dubai in four years is a liar. It is the height of political desperation. It’s even more funny because this same guy had 8 years to turn a small, ethnically and religiously homogeneous Anambra around but left the state worse than he met it.

They are always quick to refer to Mandela and I tell them Mandela was nothing like a typical Nigerian a d intact not a politician at all.....obi is cut from the same cloth as every other Nigerian politician and if you believe his one term scam then you would believe a prostitue can be a virgin.... even GEJ said he wanted only one term.

Walai:
Nope, a President that wants to work will simply dismantle the structures holding the country down, retire old corrupt politicians and then install his successor that will carry on with his agenda. Four years is more than enough to achieve it, Jerry Rawlings did it in Ghana remember

Explain to me how a president under the 1999 constitution can retire old politicians like Atiku, Peter Obi, Tinubu etc within four years? And explain to me how Rawlings did it in Ghana and how only young people are ruling Ghana since then?

Walai:
Nope, a President that wants to work will simply dismantle the structures holding the country down, retire old corrupt politicians and then install his successor that will carry on with his agenda. Four years is more than enough to achieve it, Jerry Rawlings did it in Ghana remember

Jerry John Rawlings ruled Ghana for a total of 19 years, across two different regimes:

1. First Military Rule (1979) –
He first came to power as a military leader after a coup on June 4, 1979, but handed over to a civilian government on September 24, 1979 (about 3.5 months).


2. Second Military Rule (1981–1992) –
He staged another coup on December 31, 1981, and ruled as a military head of state until January 7, 1993 (11 years).


3. Democratic Rule (1993–2001) –
Rawlings was elected as a civilian president and served two terms, from January 7, 1993, to January 7, 2001 (8 years).



Total Time in Power:

3.5 months (1979) + 11 years (1981–1993) + 8 years (1993–2001) = approx. 19 years in total.

WizardOfNG:
There is a lot of romanticised revisionism attached to Yar Adua's Presidency because he died perhaps because many human being s are sycophantic and tend to wax lyrical about the dead.

To me, and sorry to offend his fans, Yar Adua achieved nothing special. I can only be impressed by fundamental changes and reforms that will move Nigeria onwards to becoming a developed nation.

Yar Adua touched non of those badly needed and fundamentally transformative reforms.

While things may have been relatively stable under him, truth is that this is not difficult to achieve for a President (as most have been since 1999 including OBJ) who is gradualist and not a reformer in the mould of some visionary leaders worldwide have been to earn them the tag "father of nations" for completely transforming for the better the life of a people.


All what you describe are simply gradualist actions bro. No Nigerian President since 1999, for example, compare to say Mustafa Ataturk referred to as "the father of Turkey".

Tinubu can , by the time he steps down, because of brave and never-before-seen reforms he is making. Truly great leaders don't just keep boats afloat. They move it onwards towards it's intended destination.

Bro i am not a fan of big grammar or poetry ... yaradua ruled at a time most of us were Adults ... this one no be history or stories we heard.
i am talking what we " Saw "forget roman tiles or whatever, since Yaradua died no president as dare to do things that man tried ...its evidently clear this people dont want to do good by Nigerians

Its took Pa jakande just one term to make impact that leaves him in our mouths till date,. another classical evidence is Gov. Ambode one term that man transformed mainland, infact Ambode is why my local area is urban today ..
Stop hiding behind poetry, am not naive please make a point that nullifies 4yrs/one term is enough to make impact for any serious-minded leader

The Okute' himself has spoken...and I believe every word of his as it concerns one term agenda! The man has a good heart and Nigerians should trust him in this.

callthefred:
The thing is none of the candidates are really campaigning or telling how the things that can change Nigeria in 4 years. Some are even speaking against coastal road or airport reconstruction, America became successful largely due to ease of connection within their country. The candidates we have are all focused on saying they will right corruption or build roads or not waste public funds. Those are the not issues. No one can fight corruption, only a working system can do that.

What will change the country is actually having workable and sustainable programs and backing them up with law. We need a system that rewards and punish good or bad behavior. We need a system that is self sustainable.

Obj and Tinubu as governor are the only two who have actually done that. For Obj even opposition couldn't change banking reforms, pension reforms, health insurance reforms etc. On Tinubu's part, Lawma (psp), BRT have been self sustainable too. Also, his vision for the Lagos island/Eti Osa real estate axis. One could argue his successors didn't allow the plan fail but OBJ's own was top notch otherwise the country would have been in ruins.

Yar'adua reversing the sale of assets set us back and even reversing the removal of fuel subsidies was a No. We need total deregulation and that will force prices down not govt controlling prices. Look at Glo and MTN today, Glo destroyed monopoly and made sim available to the poor of the poorest. The more govt controls anything the more it fails.

Bro forget what they have to say, 90% of spoken promises are broken all the time, Mandela didnt promise one term he just did it

Most of the things Gov. Ambode was able to achieve in one term .... he didnt promise it,

i am a fan of Nike Just Do it ! Everything Apc promised. No be opposite dem dey do, their talk no dey taya you

oyeb15:
He will keep d promise. He did not influence d election of his successor which no former governor has ever done till date.

I remember d one that said 'he's in pain'' some years ago.

Obi is an honorable man. He would have been president if he had come from d North.

The same successor you claimed he did not influence accused Obi of demanding N7B Anambra money from him for the election support!

DomPerignon:
Giringory needs just 24hrs to achieve his aim as President.

The saying that it is easier to destroy than to build comes to mind.

Nigerians should understand that Giringory has his own sinister agenda in mind that's why he is begging for just one term.

Apart from his own sinister agenda just to answer Mr President and embed his own business empires in the corrupt system. There is also a tribal agenda to Corner the nation's common wealth to dredge a river to build unnecessary seaport when we have so many other real seaports around their region. They also want to create the sixth state to equal other region, when the whole SE region is not even up to a single Niger State in the north. They succeeded in armtwisitng Buhari to build the meaningless 2nd Niger bridge of which they dont appreciate and are still abusing him till death and today. Their agenda is to dominate all strata of governance and Corner the resources to develop their region only bcs they feel cheated and marginalised. They want to pave way for the actualization of Biafra using Nigeria resources. No plan for Nigeria bcs they dont love Nigeria and they have never hidden this.

Whiteshield:
Yar Adua was President when one of the biggest heists in Nigeria was committed.

Sayyadi Abba Ruma as Minister of Agriculture used 200Billion to buy fertilisers. That's an equivalent of 3 Billion Dollars today.
Fertilisers, we didn't see. Money, we couldn't get.

Fighting corruption alone, if that is all Yat adua will be celebrated for, is pedestrian and a show of how average Yar Adua was for those who know what Nigeria need her Presidents to do with political power to make our nation truly great.

Yar Adua was such an average and withdrawn Governor of Katsina to the extent many other political leaders did not even know him till OBJ presented him as the PDP candidate to replace him. Check historical archives if you don't believe me.

What highly troubled Nigeria needs, above everything else, is a President with the bravery to liberate our most profitable assets and endowment, I.e human and material, [/b]from the decades long imprisonment a rapacious and wicked looting class has sentenced them to and then make such available to be the drivers of the greatness of Nigeria [b]onwards to becoming a developed nation.


The President who will make Nigeria great is the one who will do whatever it takes to ensure we use our assets and endowment, human and material, optimally.

A very simple and fundamental concept for even the most illiterate to understand.

Look at the North that is the worst in the entire world at neglect and disenfranchisement of her human resources.

They are where they are tisay because leaders of the region have scant regard for her human resources every successful nation elevates because of recognition of the fact that human resource, beyond even countless tonnes of gold, diamond and crude oil endowment, are the most valuable asset any geographical spaces has.

How much gold, crude oil, diamond etal does UK, Sweden, Switzerland etal have yet they are some of the most developed nation on Earth because of their optimally trained and utilised human resources

Should we go into history to inspect if Yar Adua uncompromisingly fought for the eradication of Almajiri backwardness in Katsina?

Did Yar Adua, as Awolowo achieved for the SW, uncompromisingly champion free and compulsory education for all in his Katsina jurisdiction as a driver of positive socio-economic change for Katsina and the North by extension?

I am always open to learning but I know enough to feel Yar Adua was simply another gradualist, same as all we have had before Tinubu, when Nigeria needs and has only ever needed a brave and uncompromising reformer as President to help her achieve her enormous potentials by getting the best out of our human and material assets/endowments.

My worry is to remove APC in government. Nigerians needs to breathe again. The shooking is too much. APC must go. Let Peter obi sign undertaking. My concern is for Nigeria to work again. Tinubu has failed woefully.

Obi and his army of keyboard crusaders are on a hopeless wild goose chase, staging the final dance of a disgraced masquerade before he's swept into the dustbin of irrelevance. The self-proclaimed messiah should do himself a favour and quit now, before history stamps him permanently as a serial party hopper and perpetual loser at the polls

But the Arewa Forum must respect zoning of the presidency between the north and the south, therefore it's the south to continue to hold the presidential seat after 2027.

bigpicture001:
Obi's pledge for one term is only if he goes on the platform of the ADC... Not with other parties...

If una like reject am... Instead of u guyz to stick with him ND make him make his declaration legal , u are here doubting a honest man..

Okay bring replacement mk we see..

Atiku..? I laff!

Atiku is far better than obi. What the he achieved as governor of small anambra. I know Awka and Onitsha very well. The two places were not befitting thier status. Ngige did alot as governor back then. It was because of hatred igbos have for his party that made them to vote against him as governor and senator but one of thier kinsman was even crying in 2022 for APC to zone thier ticket to south east. Obi has nothing to offer. He is just been promoted by you igbos because they see him as the only option.

Okoroawusa:
You think it's easy to dismantle political structures. You want to retire people that stood by you to become president?
Your reference to Jerry Rawlings of Ghana shows how young you are. Jerry Rawlings ruled Ghana for many years both as a military man and as a civilian president.

no mind the obidense, na there em problem go start, he will fight political battles for 4 years be that

oyeb15:
He will keep d promise. He did not influence d election of his successor which no former governor has ever done till date.

I remember d one that said 'he's in pain'' some years ago.

Obi is an honorable man. He would have been president if he had come from d North.

person wey fight for 8yrs as governor of anambra

But is Nigeria with its people beyond redemption from poverty, disease and insecurity?

Someone vows to redeem the country within four years, but what some people are after is whose turn in 2027 and 2031.

Whose turn to share and loot proceeds from crude oil and gas, that's all.

benuejosh:
The desperation of this man concerning the Presidency is scary. It can be likened to the desperation of a man who will promise to put only the cap in the cookie.

Fear desperate people seeking power.

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It's glaring he is too desperate to become a president. Let him even emerge and help us dissolve this evil-fated amalgamation. Biafra go just dey beat SW in football upandan