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9jatriot:
Na only this lie I come burst. Everywhere in the world, they always ask or at least want to know where you are originally from. That is why we know where Obama and Kamara Harris are original from.

Even Disreali, the former prime minister of Britain is still always referred to by his Jewish heritage or is it the recent former Indian descent prime minister.

In some cases they may respond with "My parents were originally from ...", by then the information requested has been passed.

Except you are ashamed of where you come from, I see no reason why anyone wants to steal other people's identity. Poeple all over the world are proud of where they are from, the Jews and the Americans for example will always proudly identify who they are, so if you are ashamed of where you are from, it is not the fault of those who are not and want to properly identify you.

If you had read the article with an open mind, you might have understood the point, unless, of course, comprehension isn’t your strong suit. If you're truly Yoruba, why not trace your roots back to Arabia, as some historical accounts suggest, or return to Ile-Ife where Oduduwa is believed to have begun the Yoruba lineage? And if you're Igbo, why not head back to Israel, as certain oral histories claim?

Now you’re bringing up Obama and Trump? That’s a false equivalence. The American system doesn’t demand ancestral origin as a prerequisite for national identity. Obama and others chose to identify with their roots, it wasn’t imposed on them. The system never limited them based on where their parents came from. We have some Americans today that do want to be associated with their root.

If you doubt this, try having a child in the U.S., abandon your responsibilities, and watch how the system steps in, not because of where you came from, but because the child is already recognized and protected as an American citizen. Their system doesn’t tie a child’s identity to tribal origins, it protects it based on present and future value, not past lineage.

For your information, I’m not ashamed of my origin, never. I just wanted a better society than I met it for my kids. Our goal may be differ in that regard.

How does this relate to what you are writing or trying to say? You said you have not seen bla bla bla, I showed you examples of what you claimed not to have seen

What about the Asians, do they not always refer to where they are from. Even interstate, you will hear, "I am originally from Alabama ..." or my parents were from Omaha... so that section I extracted from your write up is false.

ibabz:
If you had read the article with an open mind, you might have understood the point, unless, of course, comprehension isn’t your strong suit. If you're truly Yoruba, why not trace your roots back to Arabia, as some historical accounts suggest, or return to Ile-Ife where Oduduwa is believed to have begun the Yoruba lineage? And if you're Igbo, why not head back to Israel, as certain oral histories claim?

Now you’re bringing up Obama and Trump? That’s a false equivalence. The American system doesn’t demand ancestral origin as a prerequisite for national identity. Obama and others chose to identify with their roots, it wasn’t imposed on them. The system never limited them based on where their parents came from. We have some Americans today that do want to be associated with their root.

If you doubt this, try having a child in the U.S., abandon your responsibilities, and watch how the system steps in, not because of where you came from, but because the child is already recognized and protected as an American citizen. Their system doesn’t tie a child’s identity to tribal origins, it protects it based on present and future value, not past lineage.

For your information, I’m not ashamed of my origin, never. I just wanted a better society than I met it for my kids. Our goal may be differ in that regard.

9jatriot:
How does this relate to what you are writing or trying to say? You said you have not seen bla bla bla, I showed you examples of what you claimed not to have seen

What about the Asians, do they not always refer to where they are from. Even interstate, you will hear, "I am originally from Alabama ..." or my parents were from Omaha... so that section I extracted from your write up is false.

I don’t get your point really. According to you, “ you will hear, "I am originally from Alabama…” was it the system that demanded such information or the person willingly wanted to be identified with his parent origin? And if they chose not to, the system would ever question or limit them based on that.

Pls if you don’t understand simple comprehension I don’t know what else to tell you.

I can go on and on with more examples. I suspect upi do not even understand that part of the article I referenced originally.

You will often hear "Nigerian born British boxer, Anthony Joshua", even when he is representing a different country.

My point, you said you have not seen anywhere else such is practiced, I have shown you enough examples for you to either edit that section or remove it from the article because it is a lie that it happens only in Nigeria and so does not support your case.

Bye

ibabz:
I don’t get your point really. According to you, “ you will hear, "I am originally from Alabama…” was it the system that demanded such information or the person willingly wanted to be identified with his parent origin? And if they chose not to, the system would ever question or limit them based on that.

Pls if you don’t understand simple comprehension I don’t know what else to tell you.

madridguy:
A good write up. Actually and average Hausa and Yoruba doesn't care about where you're from and reason the both region are well developed and their languages are more spoken than other languages.

The problem is a particular tribe that everyone don't longer want on their land. People of GhanagggfcGhanagggfct Kenya, Zambia, India, Thailand, Vietnam to mention few also asked them to leave their land.

Your right, but am wondering why Nigerian government have refused to allow them to go even they themselves had wanted to go. Does it mean that the Nigerian government is not sincere to themselves?

How many times are we going to lecture you on this? Nigeria government is not holding you.

Emco1:
Your right, but am wondering why Nigerian government have refused to allow them to go even they themselves had wanted to go. Does it mean that the Nigerian government is not sincere to themselves?

@OP Is anyone stopping you from living and doing business freely in any parts of Nigeria? the answer is NO.
What you are demanding for is just like what the Igbo Deputy Speaker wanted to push for visitors to have indigenes right after staying in a place for 10 years.

Be honest, will you as an Igbo man be comfortable having a Dan Fulani as Obi or Igwe in your territory?.. or will you be happy seeing a Mohammed Isa as Governor of Imo State?. In case you don't know, what you and your people are asking for is that all ethnic groups (over 300) in Nigeria should be stripped naked, stripped off their culture, tradition and values.
It makes no sense atal, the same you shouting you want bia.fra, that you don't want to share same country with Hausas and Yorubas all of a sudden want place of Origin erased, so you can be encroaching on other people's belongings as you like. It's not done anywhere in the world, everything is agreement, if Yorubas say they do not agree and Hausas too are rejecting it, then it can't stand cos it won't be binding on those other two except on Igbos in Igboland.

ibabz:
If you've been paying attention to recent trends, you'll notice that the Hausa-Fulani, once the Southwest's political allies and “beautiful bride" are slowly shifting their allegiance. Our dear Igbo brothers from the South are also beginning to reassess their stance. At this rate, I wonder which region will still be there to stand by you when it truly matters. Don’t let the ambition of one man destroy the delicate harmony that once existed between the West and the rest of the country.

Ibechris2 and FILEBE

Come and preach to your bro. No be when Yoruba person talk, una go dey give sermon

flokii:
@OP Is anyone stopping you from living and doing business freely in any parts of Nigeria? the answer is NO.
What you are demanding for is just like what the Igbo Deputy Speaker wanted to push for visitors to have indigenes right after staying in a place for 10 years.

Be honest, will you as an Igbo man be comfortable having a Dan Fulani as Obi or Igwe in your territory?.. or will you be happy seeing a Mohammed Isa as Governor of Imo State?. In case you don't know, what you and your people are asking for is that all ethnic groups (over 300) in Nigeria should be stripped naked, stripped off their culture, tradition and values.
It makes no sense atal, the same you shouting you want bia.fra, that you don't want to share same country with Hausas and Yorubas all of a sudden want place of Origin erased, so you can be encroaching on other people's belongings as you like. It's not done anywhere in the world, everything is agreement, if Yorubas say they do not agree and Hausas too are rejecting it, then it can't stand cos it won't be binding on those other two except on Igbos in Igboland.

You know what? I’m honestly tired of responding to people who clearly didn’t read the article before jumping into the comments. It’s frustrating having to engage with those who either lack basic comprehension or are simply too lazy to read beyond the headline. If you had actually read the piece, you'd realize how off your response is. Sometimes I truly wonder how some people made it through school.

Now, I never said I was Igbo, but I actually find it flattering when people assume so. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being Igbo or any ethnicity for that matter.

Now, to answer your questions:

1. “Is anyone stopping you from living or doing business freely in any part of Nigeria?"
Well, let’s be honest. I want to be able as a Nigerian to buy land, get a job, or build a future anywhere in this country without being reminded that I’m a “stranger” because of where my ancestors came from. That’s what true unity should look like.

2. Nigeria is not the only country with over 300 ethnic groups. But the key question is: how have other multi-ethnic nations managed their diversity better than we have?

Even within the Southwest alone, divisions run deep. Take the Ife-Modakeke crisis, for example, how many lives were lost there? And that was an intra-Yoruba conflict. If Nigeria were to split today, you’d be shocked at the level of division that exists within each region. Just like in Animal Farm, you’ll soon hear that “some animals are more equal than others.”

Lastly, regarding "place of origin", I only brought that up to make a point. If we must all cling to ancestral roots, then perhaps it’s time you trace your way back to Ile-Ife, which history considers the cradle of the Yoruba. Or better still, go all the way to Arabia if you believe the theory that Oduduwa migrated from there.

EvilMerodack:
Ibechris2 and FILEBE

Come and preach to your bro. No be when Yoruba person talk, una go dey give sermon

You know what I find truly intriguing about some of you? The moment anyone dares to challenge your deeply rooted biases or question your long-held beliefs, you react with blind emotion instead of reason. The next thing is to tag them ibo or obidient. That mindset is not only dangerous, it’s the very thing holding us back.

I refuse to be lumped together with the Yoruba “ponu”. people who are content to follow outdated ideologies without question, the slavery mentality. I represent a new generation of Yoruba, the Yoruba Ronu generation who are not afraid to speak out, ask hard questions, and demand better. We’re done with blind loyalty and recycled thinking. It’s time to think, not just follow.

Was it the ambition of that one man that made you insult Hausa Fulani as Almajiri n boko haram for 8 years.

Is it the ambition of the same man mqde you are start insulting the SW as betrayals agbero n agbado since Tinubu flogged Obi to become the president ?!

Now do you want to scatter the delicate harmony in the country because of the bigoted ambition of a failure like the pando man Peter Obi ?!

Even if you try you will fail as Tinubu is using 8 years gbako.

ibabz:
If you've been paying attention to recent trends, you'll notice that the Hausa-Fulani, once the Southwest's political allies and “beautiful bride" are slowly shifting their allegiance. Our dear Igbo brothers from the South are also beginning to reassess their stance. At this rate, I wonder which region will still be there to stand by you when it truly matters. Don’t let the ambition of one man destroy the delicate harmony that once existed between the West and the rest of the country.

There is nothing to read here. A vote should be held across the country.

Yoruba
Hausa
Fulano
Ikwerre
Nupe
Kanuri
Ijaw

And many more do not want Igbos as indigene of their state, simple as that.

ibabz:
I’m almost certain you didn’t read the article, your response reeks of ignorance shaped by shallow opinions. Maybe take a moment to actually read it, and then you might grasp the context behind the reference to “my forefathers” and what that says about my so-called place of origin.

helinues:
Some people can't keep on disrespecting others and think things would remain same. Ko possible

Why can't you region try and form they own country. Why must they be carrying one nigeria in thr head.You are in your region and still crying for sit at home happing in another region. The region is in coalition with north you are crying
For free I don't want your region even with the lagos