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| Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Topman7(op): 12:44am On Aug 06, 2025 |
The legendary African-American historian, and author of numerous books on Africa's glorious pre-colonial history, Professor Molefi Kete Asante, says ''I don't understand how Africans can be Muslims and Christians. I just don't get it.'' Hear why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSWK5b_zbTQ |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kushites: 1:01am On Aug 06, 2025 |
Professer Asante is a gem. The father of Afrocentricity. https://www.scoopnewsusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Asante-Exhibit-Opening_October-19-2022-scaled.jpg |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Predictor3: 1:04am On Aug 06, 2025 |
The same way one should wonder how Europeans can be Christians. Romans had their own religion before Christ, in fact they killed the Christ and persecuted Christians. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kushites: 1:06am On Aug 06, 2025*. Modified: 1:27am On Aug 06, 2025 |
This is why you can never see me calling myself a christian or muslim. Worshipping the gods of people who slaughtered and raped my ancestors, and burned down their cities, including the glorious world class Benin City? Stole, colonised and looted their land for a century? And then they leave in 1960 after looting the country dry, and I'm holding and worshipping their gods? Praying to their gods? Calling their gods my saviour? God forbid bad thing. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kushites: 1:14am On Aug 06, 2025*. Modified: 1:51am On Aug 06, 2025 |
Predictor3:There was no ''Christ''. It's a Roman scam from start to finish. Why would the ''Son of God'' come to Earth and only go to where white people are staying? Are we not God's Creation? Why would ''Christ'' come 2,000 years ago but we didn't hear about him until 100 years ago when the British decided to come to steal, loot, colonise and burn down our glorious civilisation? What happened to your ''Son of God'' in 1,900 years of ignoring us? And then all of a sudden after the British invaded to steal, it became really, REALLY important for us to be ''saved by Jesus''. Why? Why did it only become important 1,900 years after he supposedly came to Earth? Why only when the British needed to loot our resources in the 1900s did it become necessary for us to be ''saved by Jesus'' and ''avoid hellfire''? If hellfire truly exists, how come it took colonial invaders and thieves to make us aware of it, a mere century ago when they desired to steal from us, when we have been on this earth as Africans praising and honouring God and his forces of Divinity for hundreds of thousands of years? The very idea is comically ludicrous. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Predictor3: 2:16am On Aug 06, 2025 |
Kushites: ![]() The Ethiopians are Africans. They've known about Christ since the 4th century. That's almost 2000 years. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by otipoju(m): 3:42am On Aug 06, 2025 |
Kushites:The creator of the Universe belongs to no one and belongs to everyone. From time immemorial, humans have justified taking over of the resources of others in the name of God. That is why it is important as a nation to be military strong and devote time and resources to the latest advancement in technology. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Topman7(op): 5:03pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
otipoju:Who told you your bible has anything to do with the “Creator of the Universe”? Do you even know that the so-called New Testament of your imported “holy book” was written by Anonymous sources? “Matthew, Mark, Luke and John” are all fake names belonging to nobody. Are you aware of that? Are you aware that what I just told you is not disputed by the Church or Vatican? From time immemorial, humans have justified taking over of the resources of others in the name of God.That’s a bare-faced lie. EUROPEANS and ARABS are the ONLY GROUP who have used RELIGION, ie Christianity and Islam as a weapon to steal, loot, plunder, and slaughter. No other religious tradition has done that. African traditional religion does not order its followers to go and slaughter whole nations and seize their land. It’s your imported “holy” book that contains such atrocities. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by JuanDeDios: 5:09pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
Topman7:Hm. This table he's shaking, ehn?! |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Topman7(op): 5:13pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
Predictor3:Is Ethiopia Nigeria? Of what use is that to us? Ethiopians were bamboozled by Romans into becoming christians. They lied to the Ethiopians just as they lied to you. By the way, Why did your English invaders not observe the “commandments” of their bible, ie Thou shall not kill, steal etc etc? The same book they gave you to read claiming it was the “word of God”. Why weren’t they themselves following the book’s commandments? Yet they gave you the book and told you it was the “word of God”. And you accepted? So your “God” gave his “word” to criminals who disregarded it and simply used it to loot and steal from and kill Africans, ba? Sorry, that oyinbo Jibiti doesn’t work with me. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Sunnyshinylight(f): 5:26pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
Just lost. When you cross over you will realise how lost your soul |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 6:02pm On Aug 24, 2025 |
Topman7:Are Ethiopians not Africans just like Nigerians? You thought Africans didn't know about Christ until about 100 years ago. You said that much and the title of your thread aludes to that also. Arabs and Europeans didn't need to use religion to loot Africa. Africa was weak. Benin was sacked in 1899, was religion involved? The British sacked sokoto. Was religion involved? The British defeated the Kikuyu and the other tribes in East Africa, the Arabs defeated some. Weapons were used and not religion. Can you show examples of ibo or Yoruba kingdoms that were forced to become Christians? The two major religions Islam and Christianity came out of the middle East, not Europe. Europeans had their own religions but embraced the teachings of Jesus because they were converted too. Jews and Christians were persecuted in Europe for centuries before the Romans finally embraced their teachings and reformed it to make it what the whole world has today. They never used religion to enslave Africans. They only needed guns. You better get off your high horse. Seems the whole world has left you behind. You are free to bow to amadioha or whatever it is you worship. Nobody cares. So you don't need to also care what other people choose. Your message is dead on arrival |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by otipoju(m): 11:03am On Aug 25, 2025 |
Topman7:To each is own. Whatever makes you sleep well at night. If them say make you provide proof of your claims now, you go begin stammer. You wey never here of Trito Isaiah before or hear about the yahwist,elohist ,priestly and deuteronomist sources before. I no get your time. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by aswani(m): 12:22pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Topman7:This table this guy is shaking so, how does he expect Adeboye, Oyakilome, Suleiman, Oyedepo and the rest of them to feed. He needs to be careful sha. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kemetian: 2:43pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Obaaderemi2:So your imported white saviour sent his “gospel” to Ethiopia? So why didn’t his Ethiopians spread his garbage to the rest of Africa? What was the point of his getting his story to Ethiopia if it only stopped there? As the “son of God”, should he not know the news will stop in Ethiopia? So HOW did it reach “Africa”? Is AFRICA ETHIOPIA? Arabs and Europeans didn't need to use religion to loot Africa. Africa was weak. Benin was sacked in 1899, was religion involved? The British sacked sokoto. Was religion involved?The British defeated everyone they fought because they introduced FIREARMS into a world that had agreed to use iron weapons for thousands of years prior, in order to limit war casualties. The Europeans broke that convention out of desperate greed to loot the resources of the Southern Hemisphere. They slaughtered Africans, Indians, Chinese, Native Americans, Native Australians and more, to enrich themselves, not just Africans. Can you show examples of ibo or Yoruba kingdoms that were forced to become Christians?The British forced Christianity on southern Nigeria by denying access to resources and education to people who practiced traditional religion. If you wanted to enroll in their “missionary” schools, you had to DROP your traditional religion and get BAPTISED Christian and given an English name like John or Peter. That’s the root of the English names you bear today. So it was Economic Blackmail that forced Christianity on your forbears. They literally had to become Christians to Eat. The two major religions Islam and Christianity came out of the middle East, not Europe. Europeans had their own religions but embraced the teachings of Jesus because they were converted too. Jews and Christians were persecuted in Europe for centuries before the Romans finally embraced their teachings and reformed it to make it what the whole world has today. They never used religion to enslave Africans. They only needed guns.No, the world is LAUGHING at you, an AFRICAN worshiping a white Swedish blonde as your “Lord and Saviour”. Do you see Chinese or Japanese or Indians or Koreans worshiping a white man as their “Lord and saviour”? Never in a million years! They have their traditional religion, which is largely AFRICAN in character, since Africans were the first settlers of Asia. And they are PROUD of their religions, and will NEVER dump them to worship a white Blonde from Sweden. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kemetian: 3:15pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
And here’s the really WEIRD part. Even though their bible REPEATEDLY portrays Jesus as a BLACK MAN, Nigerians still worship a WHITE MAN as “Jesus”! Make THAT make sense. According to AI, “the most central verses directly linked to Jesus’ appearance are Revelation 1:14–15 and Daniel 10:6 — both describe him with woolly hair and skin like burnished or burned brass. When combined with the Old Testament descriptions of Israel as a dark-skinned people, it strongly supports the Afrocentric view that Jesus was a man of Black appearance”. So WHY do you have a WHITE MAN up there as your “Lord and Saviour”? Helloooo?? Bunch of British bamboozled people worshipping the WHITE MAN and claiming they are worshiping God. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 5:24pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Kemetian:Is Ethiopia not Africa? And did Christianity Stop in Ethiopia? No, it spread all over the world. For centuries the Sahara desert cut off sub Saharan Africa from the rest of the world. But that soon was overcome and Christianity and Islam reached everywhere in Africa. So you see, the news didn't stop in Ethiopia. Kemetian:Thank you. You are repeating exactly the same thing I told you. The Europeans didn't need religion to conquer and loot Africa. Their firearms were more effective ![]() Kemetian:They already conquered your ass and established their religious schools and hospitals. So they could impose conditions on those who they allowed in. They didn't force anyone. They didn't drag your great great grandfather to their school. He walked there with his own two legs. They never forced anyone to get baptized. Your father decided to get baptized because he believed the white man's god was superior to his. That's his fault not the white man's fault. He just didn't have enough faith in his own religions. Without that they would still have looted your resources. So how did they loot you using religion that you readily embraced? Did the Jews also force the Romans to drop Saturn for jaweh? Your points are very childish. I used to think like you. Then I grew up and understood how the world works Kemetian:Well, the root of the English you are forced to speak and write today is that they conquered you with their superior weaponry ![]() Kemetian:No, it was choice. Many of my people chose Islam as well and a good number remained with their ifa and sango, etc. you are arguing rather childishly and blindly. Islam and Christianity are global forces and they didn't originate in Europe. They were exported all over the world. Kemetian:They're laughing only at your stupidity that after all these centuries you still can't manufacture the basic things you use and must still rely on the developed world for such. They're laughing at you because you can't basic things like agriculture and politics right. These are fundamental things that everyone one has gotten right. They can't laugh at you because you are a Christian or Muslim. Because those are global religions that they also embraced despite the fact that both religions came out of the middle East. Kemetian:Yes, china alone has over 40million Christians. The Uyghurs of china are predominantly Muslim. The whole of Pakistan is Muslim. Pakistan was once indian. The largest church was in Korea until recently. These things are global. Kemetian:You are very ignorant, Sir ![]() Kemetian:Their religions were years before Christianity and Islam. They already were quite developed as a people before Islam and Christianity got to them. Yet Islam and Christianity grew fast in Asia though it got there late. It's about appeal. Why should any indian or Chinese be a Christian? But many of them are Kemetian:Well, many of them do |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by aribisala0(m): 5:33pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Predictor3:That means you do not know Christianity Christianity is European religion It just used the Torah for validation They created a new religion You can eat pork You don't have to circumcise One man one wife Do not cover your head in church Jews cover their heads till today Not covering head has nothing to do with Judaism is is European culture to remove a hat when you enter a house. Any house Jews face Jerusalem when they pray Christians do not Christians created a religion for Europeans claiming it was from Nazareth or wherever It was pure fiction Ask. Yourself WHY WAS THE SO CALLED NEW TESTAMENT WRITTEN IN GREEK |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Softmirror: 5:36pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Kushites which of the Africa God are you currently worshipin?! |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Softmirror: 5:38pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Topman7 which of the African God are you also worshiping current?! |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 5:38pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Softmirror: ![]() |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 5:44pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
aribisala0:Ask yourself why the old testament was written in Hebrew and Aramaic. As at the time of the new testament Greek was the global language as we have English today. Even Paul considered himself a Greek because his country at the time was under Hellenistic culture. The Europeans reformed Christianity but it's roots are in Judaism. Period |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 5:46pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Wait o. Is this aribisala not the same one who was reduced to a depressed man talking to himself by the kukutente23 moniker? ![]() |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kemetian: 6:23pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Obaaderemi2:Why couldn’t your fake White “Son of God” get his message past the same Sahara desert he supposedly created, for 2,000 years? He must be really weak, in addition to being non-existent. Thank you. You are repeating exactly the same thing I told you. The Europeans didn't need religion to conquer and loot Africa. Their firearms were more effectiveYou have ZERO idea “how the world works”. When the colonialists seized precolonial Nigeria, they also seized its resources and ended its precolonial technology like iron working, glassmaking, trade routes, trade relations with other parts of the continent, and agricultural systems, replacing all that with a system designed to ship our raw materials and “cash crops” to Europe. Meaning that to PARTAKE of their new economy, you were COMPELLED to attend their missionary schools and gain their “education” as a clerk or translator or police officer or teacher etc. And to attend those schools you had to DROP your religion and turn Christian. So it was ECONOMIC BLACKMAIL by the British that made Nigerians Christians. They're laughing only at your stupidity that after all these centuries you still can't manufacture the basic things you use and must still rely on the developed world for such.Your problem is you are an ajebota who doesn’t know that Nigeria actually MANUFACTURES MANY THINGS. If you want to know what Nigeria manufactures, use AI ChatGPT. It’s no one’s job to educate you. They can't laugh at you because you are a Christian or Muslim. Because those are global religions that they also embraced despite the fact that both religions came out of the middle East.Who embraced what? China has 40 million Christians out of a population of 1.5 billion. Less than 3% of their population. The overwhelming majority are Buddhists and Taoists, etc. If only 3% of Nigerians were Christians, who would care? The Uyghurs of china are predominantly Muslim. The whole of Pakistan is Muslim. Pakistan was once indian..Is Pakistan a happy place? Is it not soaked in terrorism and violence? Why not call Afghanistan too? INDIA retains her Hinduism, which is why she is more stable, developed and prosperous than Pakistan, and why Islamist Pakistan is embroiled in terrorism and violence till tomorrow. India DOES laugh at Pakistan. Daily. Their religions were years before Christianity and Islam.And AFRICAN RELIGION was thousands of years before their religions, Christianity and Islam COMBINED. So why are you worshiping a non-existent white Swedish man as your “Lord and saviour”? They are LAUGHING at you because they know that Africans INVENTED religion, but have been so bamboozled by recent colonisers that they have forgotten who they are. THAT IS why they are laughing at You. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kemetian: 6:32pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Because they know that ALL THE GODS WERE BLACK. All The Gods Were Black: An Eye- Opening video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94In_Bv6W1U?si=begKFoJtpyxiSlyU |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by aribisala0(m): 6:36pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Obaaderemi2:It is not an old testament Europeans called it that Try to. think Don't just react Where did that title come from? So was Hebrew ever the global language? You are contradicting yourself The Torah was written in HEBREW FOR HEBREWS. It is not that deep The so called New Testament is A European fabrication for Europeans I do not know whether or not there was ever any person called Paul or whether the story about his origin is true I think so I question . Maybe there was but it is just a story I heard . I do not know Did Jesus speak Greek since you claim it was a universal language The simple truth is Christianity was packaged to appeal to Europeans Someone could write another book in Chinese call it Newest Testament and attach it to the Torah and you have a new religion These are just formats packaged for gullible people |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Kukutente23: 7:18pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Obaaderemi2: ![]() He's still in my mentions till today asking for evidence I have to admit I did one on him though I didn't expect it to go this far Man can't get a hold of himself since then ![]() |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 7:23pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
aribisala0:Yes, Greek was the global language then. And do you have any evidence whatsoever that Jesus couldn't speak the language? A roman centurion met Jesus at Capernaum and they had a conversation about the centurion's son. Definitely Jesus must have spoken Greek. We all know the bible falls into two parts. Wether that arrangement was made by Europeans or not is irrelevant here. The relevant thing is the existence of the various books that made up the bible. Some were by the prophets of old and these were written in their languages, Aramaic and Hebrew. If you are not ignorant of Jewish history then you will admit that the tanakh which is the old testament is actually older than the Talmud or the Torah. |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by aribisala0(m): 7:31pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Obaaderemi2:The people who own the Torah do not know anything about the so called New Testament They consider it a European fraud you Africans need to see the bigger and real picture Your logic answer the question When the old Testament was written was Hebrew the universal language I don't know what languages Jesus spoke I asked you You tell me Whether it was done by Europeans matter Did the bible fall from heaven I do not know anything about prophets of old To me the bible is a story book |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 7:47pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
aribisala0:Well anybody including you can own their opinion but fortunately they do not own their facts. You write in the language of your slavemasters today. Does that mean you do not have your own language. If Jesus spoke Hebrew, that does not mean that was the only language he could speak. He conversed with a centurion who wasn't from his parts. The question is: did Jesus ever exist in that area known as Israel today? Was there ever a time Romans had to persecute followers of his teachings? Did those teachings originate out of Europe? Were they started by Romans or Greek? The fact is there are bodies of ancient works that mentioned Jesus. Some from Jews and others from non Jews. Pliny a roman administrator in Israel wrote to Rome to complain about the menace of the followers of Christ. Josephus a Jew wrote about Jesus too. These are people who were not connected in any way. So if Jesus existed and there is evidence of his teachings, who spread these messages outside middle East if not his disciples and followers of his teachings, like Paul? Even Jesus mythicists do not dispute that Paul existed. ![]() Some of you know very little but are so blissful in their ignorance. Facts are stubborn at least |
| Re: Historian Asante Says 'I Don't Understand How Africans Can Be Christian, Muslim' by Obaaderemi2: 7:48pm On Aug 25, 2025 |
Kukutente23:He is no longer himself since ![]() |
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