₦airaland Forum

Kukutente23:
Seems you don't even know that Chinese govt actively promotes state particiapation in private enterprise. In fact, private enterprise can be confiscated to the state any time it suits their fancy

Where are you going with this. I said you are being naive if you think cronyism doesnt run deep in the West. What does that have to do with state powers over private enterprise in China?

When you used the word speculator, you make it sound like he was gaming the system probably with some backing and not that he was a smart investor

Then you have a limited understanding of the word "speculator."

ElSudani:
Frustrated in what way? These people started from somewhere. Let me tell you as a business owner, the greatest problem you will face trying to start a business in Nigeria is not the government but your fellow Nigerians.
Now, not all business men are above board but if you are not doing anything illegal then you are alright in my opinion.

Anyways, let's just disagree to agree. I give up.

DeepSight:
Where are you going with this. I said you are being naive if you think cronyism doesnt run deep in the West. What does that have to do with state powers over private enterprise in China?



Then you have a limited understanding of the word "speculator."

Cronyism doesn't run deep in the West. And I challenge you to give clear examples of cronyism like we have in places like Nigeria and China

It is you who has no clear understanding of the word

Kukutente23:
Cronyism doesn't run deep in the West. And I challenge you to give clear examples of cronyism like we have in places like Nigeria and China

This is just a joke that I will not bother with. Examples will run into the thousands both in history and the present day.

It is you who has no clear understanding of the word

You need to learn humility. It makes one teachable. It helps one be able to learn everyday. Speculation does not imply cronyism.

Learn -

https://www.tutor2u.net/economics/topics/speculation

Rindo69:
So you put Elon in the same space with Dangote, Otedola and the rest.

Na wa o

So why shouldn't he, white worshiper. Dangote is also billionaire and richest man in Africa. You sounded like Elon Musk can never have anything associating with Dangote and Otedola..
Very myopic minded..

Kukutente23:
Please stop this rubbish talk of living a fake life. Or better still, speak for yourself. Even if all the wealth of Nigeria goes into subsidising things for the citizens, there is no sane way that implies living a fake life. Stop repeating the knockdown theories of overpampered elites who feel entitled to things and they feel others do not

So borrowing to subsidise fuel and to keep naira at 480 naira to a dollar is a good Government policy? It takes a dullard to defend such senseless policy.

Gotocourt:
Goodluck Jonathan is supposed to be jailed on a good day.

In a sane country, he should be on exile by now.

DeepSight:
This is just a joke that I will not bother with. Examples will run into the thousands both in history and the present day.



You need to learn humility. It makes one teachable. It helps one be able to learn everyday. Speculation does not imply cronyism.

Learn -

https://www.tutor2u.net/economics/topics/speculation

If you read and not spot where cronyism can come into play in speculative trading then you need to learn more. Ever heard of rent seeking or insider trading?

Kukutente23:
If you read and not spot where cronyism can come into play in speculative trading then you need to learn more. Ever heard of rent seeking or insider trading?

You are funny. You want to teach me of insider trading? Lol.

You made the presumption that speculation necessarily infers cronyism.

It does not. Period.

I repeat, learn humility.

It doesn't kill.

AutoConsult:
In a sane country, he should be on exile by now.

Where would BAT be in a "sane" country?

DeepSight:
You are funny. You want to teach me of insider trading? Lol.

You made the presumption that speculation necessarily infers cronyism.

It does not. Period.

I repeat, learn humility.

It doesn't kill.

I never made such presumption. I was only applying context which you failed to grasp

Kukutente23:
I never made such presumption. I was only applying context which you failed to grasp

You categorically did.

But sufficent unto the day is the evil thereof.

AutoConsult:
So borrowing to subsidise fuel and to keep naira at 480 naira to a dollar is a good Government policy? It takes a dullard to defend such senseless policy.

You believe a lot that you are told, a lot that you hear.

DeepSight:
You categorically did.

But sufficent unto the day is the evil thereof.

Rest

IketownNigeria:
One funny thing about Nigeria is every rich man is connected to govt

It’s almost same everywhere in the world. The Ultra wealthy are somehow protected by the government. Jack Ma was enjoying government protection until he spoke against them.

kedeojo:
Even authur Eze too and most others made it through drugs and yahoo. The real Nigeria billionaires and multi millionaire are less than one precent.

There is nothing like the real Nigerian billionaire. They are all the same

Kukutente23:
That's not true. All of you are now referring to Elon musk without even understanding it just because of what Trump said
What of Bill Gates, Larry Oswald and others like them

You know nothing John snow

DeepSight:
Where would BAT be in a "sane" country?

This is about Jonathan's administration, not BAT'S. I'll judge his administration after he leaves office too.

AutoConsult:
This is about Jonathan's administration, not BAT'S. I'll judge his administration after he leaves office too.

So crimes are only committed while one is president? None before?

ayusco85:
You know nothing John snow

I thought my friend Kukutente23 could not shock me any more. He proved me wrong by saying that there isnt any deep cronysim in the west.
A new level of naivette.

DeepSight:
You believe a lot that you are told, a lot that you hear.

I dare you to follow me up with fact and figures. Some of you just come on here to rant for hours without making any tangible point. Your knowledge of governance is zero but your thumbs are always quick to call what others say rubbish.

Again, I dare you tackle me with facts. Show me how Nigeria could sustain subsidizing dollar and pms for over 220million people, a lot of them being very very intentionally lazy and unproductive.

AutoConsult:
I dare you to follow me up with fact and figures. Some of you just come on here to rant for hours without making any tangible point. Your knowledge of governance is zero but your thumbs are always quick to call what others say rubbish.

Again, I dare you tackle me with facts. Show me how Nigeria could sustain subsidizing dollar and pms for over 220million people, a lot of them being very very intentionally lazy and unproductive.

I am not interested. I pick my disscussants carefully. I can see engagement will be a waste of time.

DeepSight:
So crimes are only committed while one is president? None before?

Stick to context. This is not a beer parlor

DeepSight:
I am not interested. I pick my disscussants carefully. I can see engagement will be a waste of time.

Trees for the monkeys pal!

AutoConsult:
Stick to context. This is not a beer parlor

AutoConsult:
Trees for the monkeys pal!

Ol boy have a good evening.

DeepSight:
I thought my friend could not shock me any more. He proved me wrong by saying that there isnt any deep cronysim in the west.
A new level of naivette.

You're yet to give me an example though
Those using musk as an example just based on what Trump said are simply ignorant and I challenge any of them to show how Musk's contracts are examples of cronyism

Kukutente23:
You're yet to give me an example though
Those using musk as an example just based on what Trump said are simply ignorant and I challenge any of them to show how Musk's contracts are examples of cronyism

As said before, I consider it a joke: examples will run into the thousands and no one should have time to give examples of ants following sugar.

DeepSight:
As said before, I consider it a joke: examples will run into the thousands and no one should have time to give examples of ants following sugar.

Just one or two and I hope you won't be so slow to bring the Elon argument
I believe that should be beneath you

EponObi:
That's how it is all over the world. It's how Elon Musk became the richest in the world. Government contracts, policy lobbying. There's no crime in that. Game is the game.

You dey mind them. Some of them always surprised me a lot.

Kukutente23:
Just one or two and I hope you won't be so slow to bring the Elon argument
I believe that should be beneath you

If you believe that one or two examples dont exist - or you require anyone else to source or highlight one or two examples of cronyism in the west, then there is a serious problem.

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happney65:
"He described Obasanjo as a “determined and robust president” who, once convinced of a person’s integrity, stood firm in his support."

And that is why Obasanjo had the best government since the return of Democracy in 1999. Obasanjo isnt bothered about where you are from or WHO you are. He doesnt do tribal and Religious sentiments like these ones currently in power. He will give you the job as long as he knows you can deliver

Unlike the current yeye ones wè got right now

Tueh

That's why they say he's Igbo, because he behaves normal.