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Do you read bible and you are confused?

Are you trying to distinguish between The heavens and heaven itself where God dwells?
Or were you told that there is a place called hell fire where fire burns Satan and his angels and they don't die?

Look my brother
Let's even assume that the cock and bull story is true that fire keeps burning people yet they don't die. You will agree with me that this can only be obtainable in the spirit not in this real life where we use our senses.

When people die, do they die and go with their senses which includes their physical nervous systems that will help them to feel the heat of fire torments ?

You must realize that when the bible talks about hell fire or the lake of fire in the book of revelation, it was simply referring to the second death and nothing more.

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof THOU SHALT SURELY DIE

Similarly, the day we believe in Christ WE SHALL SURELY LIVE

In the nutshell, the concept of Heaven is simply symbolism
The concept of hell fire is simply symbolism.
Ie HEAVEN AND HELL FIRE ONLY EXIST IN OUR MINDS

They all portray the state of your mind, whether you believe in Christ or not.
If you believe in Christ you are in heaven.
If you don't believe in Christ you are in hell fire and already a dead man walking.

The tree of knowledge and good also is symbolism, there is something it means
Serpent or snake talking to Eve(human) is symbolism, find out what that explains.
The parable of the fig tree or mustard seed is symbolism. Jesus Christ had interpreted some of his parables.
The woman clothed with the sun, and the moon in Revelation 21 is symbolism.

The bible is full of symbolism, I can go on and on.
Please don't be deceived!

How is this information going to help you as a Christian or believer of Christ?
Don't allow any pastor to deceive you no matter how venerable they are, you are heaven yourself

I used to tell Christians who says they want to make heaven, incase you don't know who you are and you want to make heaven, come and meet me, I am the heaven you want to go

There is nothing like heaven or hell. Hahaha

Of all the almost infinite planets, why should the activities on earth be that special?

helinues:
There is nothing like heaven or hell. Hahaha

Of all the almost infinite planets, why should the activities on earth be that special?

A heavenly minded Christian is a morally derailed Christian.
The reason being that, he has no reason to be morally upright order than the fear of not making heaven.
What if he suddenly discover that the idea of heaven is vague and illusory? There is absolutely nothing left to keep him from being immoral.

This is exactly what defines the average Nigerian.

Yes

Literally? 👀In Your mind? I guess the "many mansions" are also in your mind😂😂😂

helinues:
There is nothing like heaven or hell. Hahaha

Of all the almost infinite planets, why should the activities on earth be that special?

Yet when bandits are about to put leads in your body you start praying for forgiveness.

Both heaven and hell are real!

Heaven is the spirit realm where God and His spirit sons dwell.

Hell is the common grave where all dead creatures are resting.

Gabrielshow24:
Literally? 👀In Your mind? I guess the "many mansions" are also in your mind😂😂😂

So, all you want is free mansion that you didn't work for?

You go wait tire not knowing you are being scammed in the mind

Let me explain to you how you sound when you say you are waiting for heaven

I remember back then when i was still in a boarding school in my Jss classes, a hungry senior student asked us to do Abrakabraka!
Light up four candles around a cover bottle and speak to it for two hours saying give me N10,000 (N10,000 was big money at that time) and we will see N10,000 under the cover bottle. We tried this thing for two hours and nothing came up.
He then suggested that we should contribute N50 each,that he will use the money to consult the spiritual grand master that will make the N10,000 appear under the cover bottle. About five of us who were junior students in the hostel contributed the money. Then he asked us to light up more candles around the cover bottle and continue the abrakabraka till the next morning which we did, and nothing happened.
By the time we had gone to inform the hungry senior the following morning that nothing is yet to happen he has used our money to buy bread and tea

Good

Do you believe in Jesus?

Because this is what he said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

Please can you interpret what Jesus meant in this verse?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe in Jesus?

Because this is what he said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

Please can you interpret what Jesus meant in this verse?

As at the time he was saying these thing to his disciples the kingdom of God has not yet come, but it was about to come.

That means, the kingdom of God was never with men until he died and resurrected.
So now that he has died and resurrected, the kingdom is in us.

No one knew when he was going to die and resurrect until the hour he was crucified.

paxonel:
As at the time he was saying these thing to his disciples the kingdom of God has not yet come, but it was about to come.
That means, the kingdom of God was never with men until he died and resurrected. So now that he has died and resurrected, the kingdom is in us.
No one knew when he was going to die and resurrect until the hour he was crucified.

The question i asked you is simple.

Did Jesus lied that there is a place called heaven?

He said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

The highlighted in blue says "neither the angels in heaven"

Now you are saying there's no place called heaven so are you saying Jesus lied?

MaxInDHouse:
The question i asked you is simple.

Did Jesus lied that there is a place called heaven?

He said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

The highlighted in blue says "neither the angels in heaven"

Now you are saying there's no place called heaven so are you saying Jesus lied?

Where did you see the word PLACE in that scripture, does spirits have place?

If you are very sure of the place where spirits are located, can you point it?
Is it beyond the clouds, the air, the moon, under water, in outer space ?

where?

paxonel:
Where did you see the word PLACE in that scripture, does spirits have place?
If you are very sure of the place where spirits are, can you point it?
Is it beyond the clouds, the air, the moon, under water, in outer space ?
where?

"In the house of my Father are many dwelling PLACES. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a PLACE for you." John 14:2

Are you saying Jesus lied?

MaxInDHouse:
"In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you." John 14:2

Are you saying Jesus lied?

So, where exactly is the location of the place or father's house Jesus was refering to?

MaxInDHouse:
The question i asked you is simple.

Did Jesus lied that there is a place called heaven?

He said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

The highlighted in blue says "neither the angels in heaven"

Now you are saying there's no place called heaven so are you saying Jesus lied?

So, where exactly is the location of the place or father's house Jesus was refering to?

Guy, i don't intend to interrupt people who feels they don't need to be taught it's only when such people trespass my domain that i expose them as novice.

The simple question you ought to answer is there:

"Did Jesus lied about a place called heaven?"

But if you don't know then try to keep quiet next time you see my posts.

The Bible teaches that there is a place called "heaven" just as it teaches there is a person called "God" and beings called "angels" their being invisible to your eyes doesn't mean they don't exist.

Next time stay on your lane!

paxonel:
So, where exactly is the location of the place or father's house Jesus was refering to?

paxonel:
So, where exactly is the location of the place or father's house Jesus was refering to?

MaxInDHouse:
"Did Jesus lied about a place called heaven?"

No, Jesus did not lie!

Jesus did not lie to say that the only place or location called heaven is in our heart.

You think you are wise?

Yes, the thread is also a way to expose the ignorant doctrines of Jehovah witnesses

paxonel:
No, Jesus did not lie!
Jesus did not lie to say that the only place or location called heaven is in our heart. You think you are wise?

So it is in your heart that Jesus is taking his corulers shey? John 14:1-3

paxonel:
Yes, the thread is also a way to expose the ignorant doctrines of Jehovah witnesses

Seeking support against Jehovah's Witnesses when you have called the Bible a lie.
You funny pas sabinus!

Good,
So sweet

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Absolutely

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Good Sunday

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