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Let me try😇. Well you grew up, adapted to change, understood the system and the commitment of members of the church and to God and not solely to the Pastor. The tithe or percentage was like a piece offering for multiplication of income and giving thanks for the little you have been receiving. And you’re also helping to grow the church in your own little ways and Giving too. As we all know Givers never lack. You gave willingly from your heart without being asked

It's because you now understand those monies are used to promote Charity and also take care of the church structure and society.
These are part of church mission and works that other people fail at.

SeraphicWind:
Growing up many many years ago in Nigeria, I insulted the hell out of Oyedepo. I will not lie. I was quite young and naive then.

My favourite name for him back then was OLE-DEPO (GOD Forgive me though)

I will go online back then and query why normal human beings will give a percentage of their salary to someone who was doing far better than most of them.

I saw them as mad or mentally unstable people.

I was very young and naive. Quite understandably.

But here is the mystery.

I have grown up, travelled out of the country and settled down to a very good life.

Every month though, I change a part of my salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

You dey use 75k whine us.......

Make i answer you;

When you were younger, you saw giving only through the lens of “why should I give to someone who already has?” But with maturity, life experience, and perhaps a deeper spiritual awakening, your perspective shifted.

You likely came to understand:

-Giving is not about enriching a man — it’s about partnering with God’s work through that man (Philippians 4:17).

-True generosity flows from a transformed heart, not coercion (2 Corinthians 9:7).

God often uses people we once misunderstood to teach us lessons we couldn’t have received back then.

So, what happened?.....
Your understanding deepened. Giving is now a conviction, not a compulsion.
In short , you grew in wisdom, and God shifted your perspective from criticism to participation.

You were younger back then and had no understanding of what it meant to give offerings , but as you matured , and saw an element of God or your conscience secretly pressing you to try and do this crazy thing and you feel you have been blessed ever since . Which is why you continue doing it .

You can think of it like a child who adds fertilizer to a plant to make it grow: the child has no Basic idea of how nitrogen is used by the plant to grow, but he instinctively knows that as long as I add fertilizer to this plant, it will grow

U are under a spell

Can I paste my aza

You have grown up to understand tithing is an Obligation.
Tithing is a measure of supporting the propagation of the kingdom of God almighty on earth

SeraphicWind:
Growing up many many years ago in Nigeria, I insulted the hell out of Oyedepo. I will not lie. I was quite young and naive then.

My favourite name for him back then was OLE-DEPO (GOD Forgive me though)

I will go online back then and query why normal human beings will give a percentage of their salary to someone who was doing far better than most of them.

I saw them as mad or mentally unstable people.

I was very young and naive. Quite understandably.

But here is the mystery.

I have grown up, travelled out of the country and settled down to a very good life.

Every month though, I change a part of my salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

What happened to you have nothing to do with you but God at work. Remember Saul hate God and his works. In fact he was at the forefront of ensuring the crucifixion of people that speaks about God to the people. But what did God do, he arrested him, he became Paul and he was now at the forefront of doing the work of God with so much passion something he so much hated before.
Now look at you, you hate with passion tithe giving and most especially to a particular church which is Winners. Forget that you are young and naive, there is nothing like that in the spiritual world. The seed sown into you at that age is what grows and makes you become whom you become at older age. So that seed have been sown into you at that tender age and you are very much aware because if you don't, you wouldn't be telling us today of how much you hated Pastor Oyedepo because of the tithe thing.
But just has God arrested Saul and made him do what he hates, God have arrested you too to do what you hate and what have been sown into your life at your teenage years.

I can say you are lucky because God chose you to do what it right after you have been doing what is wrong just has God chose Saul now Paul to do what is right after he has been doing what is wrong.

I hope this helps.

God bless you

Stockholm syndrome at work.

When the delusion wears off, you will be back to factory settings with Even more greater venom.

Continue!

SeraphicWind:
Growing up many many years ago in Nigeria, I insulted the hell out of Oyedepo. I will not lie. I was quite young and naive then.

My favourite name for him back then was OLE-DEPO (GOD Forgive me though)

There was even some tribalism to it because I was worried as why a YORUBA MAN will be making that much money in Igboland through DECEPTION.

I will go online back then and query why normal human beings will give a percentage of their salary to someone who was doing far better than most of them.

I saw them as mad or mentally unstable people.

I was very young and naive. Quite understandably.

But here is the mystery.

I have grown up, travelled out of the country and settled down to a very good life.

Every month though, I change a part of my small salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount of my small money for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

Very simple. You've bought into the mental gymnastics and are now operating under the same illusion that there is some hidden "blessing" that accrues to you for donating your money.

1. You are now financially more comfortable and independent than when you were young.
2. You are now been influenced by the society due to your social status and associations.
3. You are now testing the water because you want more finacial and social breakthroughs UNCONSCIOUSLY with the mind of helping humanity according to the scriptures.
Permit me to use a simple illustration to support these points..
Lets say when you are young and still financially unstable, you might be thinking that people that bought items online were fools and the site owners were scammers but you later travelled to where they were using technologies more and better, you will start believing in the system because you have access to customers review and you will begin to trust the system thereby start ordering your items online too.

The Holy Spirit of God have developed your spirituality, The Lord of heaven and earth have made you to understand that sowing into His kingdom unlocks doors that have been shut against the giver.

The blessings of the Lord maketh rich and addeth no sorrow.

LordReed:
Very simple. You've bought into the mental gymnastics and are now operating under the same illusion that there is some hidden "blessing" that accrues to you for donating your money.

But in all honesty, I am not looking for "some hidden "blessing" that accrues to you for donating your money."

There lies the mystery.

You may not believe it but God's blessings has been more than enough for me.

I am not a greedy Soul. I am contented with what I have.

So why do I now give same man of God my money? Something I vehemently opposed in the past?

You may not believe it but 15 years ago or so, I won't give him 1 naira.

SeraphicWind:
But in all honesty, I am not looking for "some hidden "blessing" that accrues to you for donating your money."

There lies the mystery.

You may not believe it but God's blessings has been more than enough for me.

I am not a greedy Soul. I am contented with what I have.

So why do I now give same man of God my money? Something I vehemently opposed in the past?

You may not believe it but 15 years ago or so, I won't give him 1 naira.

Dude you already gave the game away with this statement:

You may not believe it but God's blessings has been more than enough for me.

Very clear you've bought into it hook, line and sinker.

LordReed:
Dude you already gave the game away with this statement:

You may not believe it but God's blessings has been more than enough for me.

Very clear you've bought into it hook, line and sinker.

I said "God's blessings has been more than enough for me." to counter your initial opinion that I am only giving to access "some hidden "blessing" that accrues to you for donating your money."

This implies that God has blessed me even before giving. Therefore my giving is not tied to any material expectations. Even though I will gladly accept if it comes.

So if I am not giving to be blessed, why am I now giving money to someone I criticised heavily in the past for "taking people's money"?

That is the point of the thread in which the best answer will be rewarded.

LordReed:
Dude you already gave the game away with this statement:

You may not believe it but God's blessings has been more than enough for me.

Very clear you've bought into it hook, line and sinker.

Ask him whether he considers giving directly to a beggar, an orphanage, a cripple etc as sufficient.

SeraphicWind:
Growing up many many years ago in Nigeria, I insulted the hell out of Oyedepo. I will not lie. I was quite young and naive then.

My favourite name for him back then was OLE-DEPO (GOD Forgive me though)

There was even some tribalism to it because I was worried as why a YORUBA MAN will be making that much money in Igboland through DECEPTION.

I will go online back then and query why normal human beings will give a percentage of their salary to someone who was doing far better than most of them.

I saw them as mad or mentally unstable people.

I was very young and naive. Quite understandably.

But here is the mystery.

I have grown up, travelled out of the country and settled down to a very good life.

Every month though, I change a part of my small salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount of my small money for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

Oga, instead of giving to a billion dollar enterprise called RCCG, why dont you think giving to poor and hungry beggars by the streets, cripples, orphanages, etc will have the same effect? ? ? ? ?

I guess the older you grew, the more mentally vulnerable you got.

That's the nicest way to put it.

Simply put; your initial disposition regarding giving to his church was based on your PERCEPTION about him and his church; you felt that, someone who had that much should rather be the one giving to others rather than collecting, hence why you felt that way, which in a sense is a good judgement.

However, having had exposure and broader knowledge about things, your Current viewpoint regarding giving to his church is base on KNOWLEDGE of what's you've come to know about him.

You've over the years learn, Unlearn and
relearn certain things.

My submission!!

SeraphicWind:
I said "God's blessings has been more than enough for me." to counter your initial opinion that I am only giving to access "some hidden "blessing" that accrues to you for donating your money."

This implies that God has blessed me even before giving. Therefore my giving is not tied to any material expectations. Even though I will gladly accept if it comes.

So if I am not giving to be blessed, why am I now giving money to someone I criticised heavily in the past for "taking people's money"?

That is the point of the thread in which the best answer will be rewarded.

It doesn't matter if you did it with that expectation, you have bought into the whole caboodle.

Answer this question

DeepSight:
Ask him whether he considers giving directly to a beggar, an orphanage, a cripple etc as sufficient.

And why do you not do this instead of donating your money to some already rich guy?

DeepSight:
Oga, instead of giving to a billion dollar enterprise called RCCG, why dont you think giving to poor and hungry beggars by the streets, cripples, orphanages, etc will have the same effect? ? ? ? ?

I help the less privileged more than you know.

Many of you are missing the point of the thread.

Helping the least advantaged in the society is not my problem. I do that.

I am talking about the very fact that Winners Chapel I criticised a lot for collecting tithes from people now takes my own tithe.

That is the mystery.

SeraphicWind:
I said "God's blessings has been more than enough for me." to counter your initial opinion that I am only giving to access "some hidden "blessing" that accrues to you for donating your money."

This implies that God has blessed me even before giving. Therefore my giving is not tied to any material expectations. Even though I will gladly accept if it comes.

So if I am not giving to be blessed, why am I now giving money to someone I criticised heavily in the past for "taking people's money"?

That is the point of the thread in which the best answer will be rewarded.

The answer is that your eyes are now opened. You realize that his mission works are genuine. He does not spend the givings on living a lavish life as widely peddled. Your giving to his ministry is an easy and trustworthy way of getting your money into supporting good causes.

SeraphicWind:
I help the less privileged more than you know.

Many of you are missing the point of the thread.

Helping the least advantaged in the society is not my problem. I do that.

I am talking about the very fact that Winners Chapel I criticised a lot for collecting tithes from people now takes my own tithe.

That is the mystery.

It is not a mystery. We can clearly see you've bought into the prosperity gospel. What is a mystery is why you think this is mysterious. Are you unable to discern your own motivations?

SeraphicWind:
Every month though, I change a part of my small salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount of my small money for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

Somehow, you grew up to a realization best know to you. And, for that probably, you understood that wasn't necessary and/or you now have a different perspective of the man and/or his works.

Therefore, in your own way, you feel the best atonement is to give him same thing you criticized him for. And I think, there wouldn't be any better atonement for such, based on your story.

The seventy five k got me thinking this hard because it will go a longer way for me than you can imagine.

As you grew older and got plenty of money you became more charitable and though you did usually insult him,you subconsciously register him as your favorite pastor that why you are attached to him and funding anything through his ministry makes you happy

SeraphicWind:
What happened to me?

You can tell us then since no one answered correctly.

SeraphicWind:
Growing up many many years ago in Nigeria, I insulted the hell out of Oyedepo. I will not lie. I was quite young and naive then.

My favourite name for him back then was OLE-DEPO (GOD Forgive me though)

There was even some tribalism to it because I was worried as why a YORUBA MAN will be making that much money in Igboland through DECEPTION.

I will go online back then and query why normal human beings will give a percentage of their salary to someone who was doing far better than most of them.

I saw them as mad or mentally unstable people.

I was very young and naive. Quite understandably.

But here is the mystery.

I have grown up, travelled out of the country and settled down to a very good life.

Every month though, I change a part of my small salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount of my small money for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

There is no mystery.

SeraphicWind:
Oyedepo is a great man of God. 20 years ago, I was a heavy critic of this man. I called him so many names and insulted him.

I have travelled outside the country. I willing pay tithe to him without coercion. I will continue to support his ministry in my little capacity.

It was Oyedepo that opened my eyes to the fact that the FORCES OF DARKNESS is real.

Right here on this earth, many are in the region of DARK SOULS far from the light.

It is true.

I dunno what this thread was even out to achieve.

SeraphicWind:
Growing up many many years ago in Nigeria, I insulted the hell out of Oyedepo. I will not lie. I was quite young and naive then.

My favourite name for him back then was OLE-DEPO (GOD Forgive me though)

There was even some tribalism to it because I was worried as why a YORUBA MAN will be making that much money in Igboland through DECEPTION.

I will go online back then and query why normal human beings will give a percentage of their salary to someone who was doing far better than most of them.

I saw them as mad or mentally unstable people.

I was very young and naive. Quite understandably.

But here is the mystery.

I have grown up, travelled out of the country and settled down to a very good life.

Every month though, I change a part of my small salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount of my small money for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

Lol. Something good happened to you and you imagine its singularly due to sending money to Oyedepo.

My thoughts exactly. Op's change is not base on reasoning at all

matify83:
Stockholm syndrome at work.

When the delusion wears off, you will be back to factory settings with Even more greater venom.

Continue!

Man is using pittance to wash away guilt. Interesting.

SeraphicWind:
Growing up many many years ago in Nigeria, I insulted the hell out of Oyedepo. I will not lie. I was quite young and naive then.

My favourite name for him back then was OLE-DEPO (GOD Forgive me though)

There was even some tribalism to it because I was worried as why a YORUBA MAN will be making that much money in Igboland through DECEPTION.

I will go online back then and query why normal human beings will give a percentage of their salary to someone who was doing far better than most of them.

I saw them as mad or mentally unstable people.

I was very young and naive. Quite understandably.

But here is the mystery.

I have grown up, travelled out of the country and settled down to a very good life.

Every month though, I change a part of my small salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount of my small money for his mission works. Without him asking me for a dime.

Same thing I fought against vehemently both online and offline.

I have not met him before. I have not attended his church before.

I am not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Trust me on this.

Who can explain this?

What happened to me?

"Who can explain this?" The best answer is God can

"What happened to you"? The best answer is you change a part of your small salary and send to the Church of David Oyedepo. A sizeable amount of my small money for his mission works. Without him asking you for a dime. Same thing you fought against vehemently both online and offline.

You are also not under any mental, spiritual or emotional manipulation. Of which you are certain and expect us to trust you on that. All this is what happened to you.