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Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by cezarman(m):
THUNDER4real:
These airport situations [Kwam and Ibom air] were handled poorly compared to international standards. Police should be the ones that handle them not airport personnel that will be begging them to leave the aircraft or leave the runway. Just 2 police officers in abroad is enough to take any of them down. Give them a direct order, if they refuse, stunt them, bundle them straight to jail.
I just forgot, Nigeria police system is not functional as the government.
Boss I saw a video of one staff blocking her way and preventing her from leaving the airplane. She made the video herself...
I think the staff wanted some trouble too from the footage. I saw it when I went on Tiktok
After seeing that video, I think she might not entirely be at fault.
Why would you stop her from leaving, then go ahead to call security to drag her out??... Not that she stole anything oh!

Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by AlphaTaikun: 6:36pm On Aug 11, 2025
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Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by Etisoul(m): 6:40pm On Aug 11, 2025
bdon123:
Bt it is wrong to force passenger to switch off phone.there is flight mode in phones for such.I have traveled over 7 diff international airlines n none hav forced me to switch off....they always say switch off or flight mode.
Depends on the aircraft really cos there's been significant advancement in the area of Radio Frequency Interference (RFI). But switching phones off is not really a thing these days. Some even say phones don't affect a plane's movement at all.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by AlphaTaikun: 6:59pm On Aug 11, 2025
papyjaypaul:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKNrN6V6oyc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRsebYR0Jvo&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD

The second woman, despite the mental issue was charged with Indecent Exposure

Aren't people funny? They pay tickets to travel with an airline and then say they don't need to switch off their phones. Get your own plane then. If you enter a car and the driver tells you to use seat belt and you don't feel like, leave the car and drive yours. Why do adults behave like babies? What point are you trying to prove?
Interesting insights from the videos.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by Tunagee(m): 7:22pm On Aug 11, 2025
bdon123:
Bt it is wrong to force passenger to switch off phone.there is flight mode in phones for such.I have traveled over 7 diff international airlines n none hav forced me to switch off....they always say switch off or flight mode.
She should have asked them if she could put it on flight mode
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by Amudeneogu: 7:38pm On Aug 11, 2025
tradebot:
She is a customer, if you had approached her well she won't misbehave, she is human too.

So you blocked her from leaving, Ibom Air cannot come her to claim victim.
Please stop defending her because she is a fool, what right do she have to fight inside an aircraft, who is she.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aribisala0(m): 7:45pm On Aug 11, 2025
Tunagee:
She should have asked them if she could put it on flight mode
What is flight mode? In physics what actually happens?

What are the electronics of flight mode exactly. Is it fool proof.

Many people just like to show they too know

There are several reasons why people are asked to switch off phones e.g they may interfere with the navigation system but also they can interfere with the pilot's headphones
They are different actions
It is not only phone but gaming and other electronic devices
Now. You may switch your phone to flight mode and there is literally nothing like that in reality either because of malfunction of that mode or a cheap phone or deliberate attempt at sabotage
Some older aircraft ,smaller aircraft etc may be more vulnerable
Whatever the case . It is THEIR PLANE.They have full authority to tell passengers to switch off their phone and the do NOT OWE ANY EXPLANATION
They may have security information that they choose not to share . We saw what Israel did to Hamas with phones

A phone may have a malware that cancels airplane mode and switches on as part of a targeted attack
To assume switching to airplane mode is be all end allmis naive

The fact that some airlines say switch to airplane mode does not prove it is safe and does not make it a right

Airplane mode are just words like safety net. They do not guarantee anything
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by papyjaypaul: 7:59pm On Aug 11, 2025
aribisala0:
Who are you to say what is wrong?

The rule is any thing the flight attendant tell yo to do. Not what you think you know
Doesn't matter if you have a PhDin electronics. Their instructions are f8nal

You obey or are deplaned
If you like fly with 7 witches no one asked you your biography

No matter what you think you have to obey their instructions. It is not a debate
I don't think many passengers realize that the airplane is not theirs. I don't mean you need to be a sllaaaave but people just act entitled these days.

Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aribisala0(m): 8:16pm On Aug 11, 2025
papyjaypaul:
I don't think many passengers realize that the airplane is not theirs. I don't mean you need to be a sllaaaave but people just act entitled these days.
Many people miss a lot of things
It is better not to have issues at airports no matter how right you are
They put your name as security risk and flag it around the world next thing you are on a no fly list
That can ruin a career
One day they tell you one thing next day they say the opposite better to shut up and obey
Before you know it the flight is over and you are at home. Why argue?
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by Fujiyama: 9:10pm On Aug 11, 2025
Sammy5413:
I just pity some men
^^^
grin

Why?
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by papyjaypaul:
aribisala0:
Many people miss a lot of things
It is better not to have issues at airports no matter how right you are
They put your name as security risk and flag it around the world next thing you are on a no fly list
That can ruin a career
One day they tell you one thing next day they say the opposite better to shut up and obey
Before you know it the flight is over and you are at home. Why argue?
I used AI to ask for the disruptive behavior of passengers before Nigerians come with rights (after they left their good behavior at home, only to be disturbing someone else with their bad behavior outside). AI contains some inaccuracies but let me use this to educate Nigerians and rights or those who talk about customer service but not customer disservice.

ICAO outlines various behaviors that could be considered "unruly" or disruptive on an aircraft. These behaviors could be classified as:

### 1. **Violence or Threat of Violence**

* Physical assault or threat of assault towards other passengers or crew members.
* Intimidation or abusive behavior, including threats of violence.
* Aggressive actions or threats with the intent to harm or cause distress.

### 2. **Disorderly Conduct**

* Shouting, screaming, or using offensive language.
* Any behavior that disrupts the normal operation of the flight or the comfort and safety of others.
* Making threats that cause alarm or distress to other passengers or crew members.

### 3. **Interfering with Crew Duties**

* Refusing to follow crew instructions.
* Engaging in actions that interfere with the crew’s ability to perform their duties, such as leaving their seat during critical times (take-off, landing).
* Tampering with or attempting to disable safety equipment or communication systems.

### 4. **Endangering the Safety of the Aircraft**

* Interfering with the aircraft's operation, including disrupting the flight deck or obstructing the flight crew.
* Behaving in a manner that could endanger the safety of the flight, passengers, or crew (e.g., trying to open an aircraft door mid-flight).

### 5. **Alcohol and Drug Abuse**

* Consuming alcohol or drugs in violation of airline policies or international regulations.
* Being intoxicated to the extent that it disrupts the operation of the flight or puts the safety of others at risk.
* Being abusive or violent under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

### 6. **Smoking or Tampering with Smoke Detectors**

* Smoking in areas where it is prohibited, including in the lavatories.
* Tampering with or disabling smoke detectors or other safety equipment.

### 7. **Sexual Harassment**

* Inappropriate or sexually suggestive behavior toward passengers or crew.
* Unwelcome physical contact or gestures.
* Comments, actions, or behaviors that make others feel uncomfortable or unsafe.

### 8. **Failure to Comply with Safety Regulations**

* Refusing to fasten seat belts, wear a mask (in relevant contexts), or comply with other safety measures.
* Not following safety protocols during emergency situations.
* Removing shoes or other clothing items in a way that disrupts or interferes with flight protocols.

### 9. **Racial or Religious Discrimination**

* Harassment or intimidation based on race, religion, nationality, or other forms of discrimination.
* Creating a hostile environment for passengers or crew based on personal characteristics.

### 10. **Harassment or Threatening Behavior**

* Persistent harassment or verbal abuse directed at other passengers or the crew.
* Behavior that leads to discomfort or fear among other passengers or staff.

These behaviors are considered serious threats to the safety and comfort of both passengers and crew, and airlines are empowered to take action, including restraining the passenger, diverting the flight, or even involving law enforcement.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aribisala0(m): 10:02pm On Aug 11, 2025
papyjaypaul:
I used AI to ask for the disruptive behavior of passengers before Nigerians come with rights (after they left their good behavior at home, only to be disturbing someone else with their bad behavior outside). AI contains some inaccuracies but let me use this to educate Nigerians and rights or those who talk about customer service but not customer disservice.
Let us start with the basics
1. She was remanded to prison
2, This follows being charged to court
3. BBC reports she was charged on 5 counts including assault and criminal damage

It is not that deep

What is alleged is that she waited till all the passengers had disembarked and then approached the person she believed insulted her

If true that she was the last passenger on the plane it seems more about assault and damage than disruption

The fact that they allowed her to fly after the incident before take off shows they were willing to let it go
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by papyjaypaul: 10:12pm On Aug 11, 2025
aribisala0:
Let us start with the basics
1. She was remanded to prison
2, This follows being charged to court
3. BBC reports she was charged on 5 counts including assault and criminal damage

It is not that deep

What is alleged is that she waited till all the passengers had disembarked and then approached the person she believed insulted her

If true that she was the last passenger on the plane it seems more about assault and damage than disruption

The fact that they allowed her to fly after the incident before take off shows they were willing to let it go
Thank God you said "alleged". I am not trying to defend the Airline by force but it surprises me that people want respect they don't give. Everyone is talking about de escalation, no one is talking about escalation. Again the lady must be following SOP from her training, otherwise she will be disciplined. In the video I shared earlier, did you see the cop asking everyone to leave the plane for them to handle just that lady? If the passenger did not leave, everyone else would have left and that single passenger will be the one they will handle. I don't think the professionals don't know what they are doing. I think Nigerians and ITK just think they can do anything and get away with it, then ask someone who was trained how to do their job. Let's even assume the hostess was wrong, there are ways to 'deal with her'.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRsebYR0Jvo&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD


Please guys, be aware that the airlines themselves don't own the airstrip or airport, they are responsible for how they use the facilities, so this layman argument of why didn't she do this earlier or later does not cut it. Airlines would not just let you walk on the tarmac especially if you are their passenger, which is why people are condemning the officials for KWAM 1, he was never supposed to walk stray on the tarmac. That is a lapse in security. This is why airlines will use buses to take you from one spot to the other within the airport, they wouldn't just let you walk like you think you are free to do so anyhow.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aswani(m): 10:44pm On Aug 11, 2025
bdon123:
Bt it is wrong to force passenger to switch off phone.there is flight mode in phones for such.I have traveled over 7 diff international airlines n none hav forced me to switch off....they always say switch off or flight mode.
It is their law, even if they say you shouldn't bring phone on their aircraft, it is their law, abide by it or stay away.

This phone of a thing, why must people have it on all the damn time. Can't they give themselves a break from it once in a while?

I can't lie, all this "women must not be touched by men" gang better not say pim to me if she had assaulted me when I was removing her from the aircraft. Her behaviour would change for the better moving forward if she had made such a mistake.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by cezarman(m):
Amudeneogu:
Please stop defending her because she is a fool, what right do she have to fight inside an aircraft, who is she.
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Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by bdon123(m): 5:21am On Aug 12, 2025
aswani:
It is their law, even if they say you shouldn't bring phone on their aircraft, it is their law, abide by it or stay away.

This phone of a thing, why must people have it on all the damn time. Can't they give themselves a break from it once in a while?

I can't lie, all this "women must not be touched by men" gang better not say pim to me if she had assaulted me when I was removing her from the aircraft. Her behaviour would change for the better moving forward if she had made such a mistake.
Oga it is not d law.aviation law in naija says switch off or flight mode.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by bdon123(m): 5:24am On Aug 12, 2025
Tunagee:
She should have asked them if she could put it on flight mode
She did d woman insisted n somebody collected her fone n switched off.
Where she did wrong was slapping hostess after they landed lagos which should basically only get her arrested by airport police. There was absolutely no need to force a woman out of an empty plane or even detain her in d first place.Air hostess has no right to do that.Only police has that right.Air hostess kidnapped d lady n kept her on d plane
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by bdon123(m): 5:26am On Aug 12, 2025
aribisala0:
Let us start with the basics
1. She was remanded to prison
2, This follows being charged to court
3. BBC reports she was charged on 5 counts including assault and criminal damage

It is not that deep

What is alleged is that she waited till all the passengers had disembarked and then approached the person she believed insulted her

If true that she was the last passenger on the plane it seems more about assault and damage than disruption

The fact that they allowed her to fly after the incident before take off shows they were willing to let it go
They allowed her to fly becos another passenger collected her fone n switched off.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aswani(m): 5:37am On Aug 12, 2025
bdon123:
Oga it is not d law.aviation law in naija says switch off or flight mode.
I said it is their law by which I am referring to the airline. Obviously, "law" was not the right word and I meant they have a right to additionally instruct people as to what to do on their flights over and above what aviation law specifies.

Customers unhappy with those instructions should freely leave the flight and commence legal proceedings for compensation if need be.

How long is the flight from Uyo to Lagos that she can't do without the phone sef?

Anyway, I thank her on behalf of all the teenage Nigerian boys on WhatsApp in Nigeria (though I myself am not one) for the latest sticker involving her, konji nor bi anybody mate.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by bdon123(m): 5:42am On Aug 12, 2025
aswani:
I said it is their law by which I am referring to the airline. Obviously, "law" was not the right word and I meant they have a right to additionally instruct people as to what to do on their flights over and above what aviation law specifies.

Customers unhappy with those instructions should freely leave the flight and commence legal proceedings for compensation if need be.

How long is the flight from Uyo to Lagos that she can't do without the phone sef?

Anyway, I thank her on behalf of all the teenage Nigerian boys on WhatsApp in Nigeria (though I myself am not one) for the latest sticker involving her, konji nor bi anybody mate.
Duration of flight is 1hr n i like to use my head phones.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aswani(m): 5:53am On Aug 12, 2025
bdon123:
Duration of flight is 1hr n i like to use my head phones.
Sorry I don't get your point, is it that you can't do without your phone for one hour? In that case, you can take international Airlines only or travel by road.

You can't go to someone's house and they tell you to stop smoking and refuse to point blank, you will be rightfully turfed out to go and crave your addiction somewhere else.

Is she bigger, granted her boobies might be grin, than the others that switched off their phones when instructed?

Anyway thanks for the answer as to the flight time.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aribisala0(m): 6:10am On Aug 12, 2025
bdon123:
They allowed her to fly becos another passenger collected her fone n switched off.
Do you even think before talking
Do you know the meaning of rhe word BECAUSE
If implies causation
If you are going to put yourself in the middle of a conversation try to understand what the conversation is about
A comparison was being made with KWAM 1
She was allowed to fly because the official decided to exercise discretion having determined in their judgment that it was safe to allow her to travel regardless of what the other passenger did.
The airline could have refused her flying on the basis of what happened with t her needing another passenger to switch off her phone

They could still have refused her flying BECAUSE of that.
The point is having been allowed to fly why is she spending the night at Kirikiri
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aribisala0(m): 6:21am On Aug 12, 2025
bdon123:
She did d woman insisted n somebody collected her fone n switched off.
Where she did wrong was slapping hostess after they landed lagos which should basically only get her arrested by airport police. There was absolutely no need to force a woman out of an empty plane or even detain her in d first place.Air hostess has no right to do that.Only police has that right.Air hostess kidnapped d lady n kept her on d plane
Anybody has authority to make an arrest
It is called a citizens arrest
There is nothing like kidmap
A shopkeeper has a right to ARREST A THIEF in their shop
If you catch a thief in your community vandalising a transformer you can arrest him
A person goes to a restaurant to eat and cannot pay he is detained and you are talking kidmap is that not funny
Yes I said arrest
Th air hostess effectively arrested her and citizen's arrest is lawful in Nigeria If the intention is to hand the detainee tothe police

The scenario was that the security had been called and she was detained and handed over

The plane is private properly and they are entitled to expel her in this case itt was part of due process of arrest that culminated in the logical arraignment in court
There are byelaws in airports that empower airport security to remove her from the plane
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by bdon123(m): 7:54am On Aug 12, 2025
aribisala0:
Anybody has authority to make an arrest
It is called a citizens arrest
There is nothing like kidmap
A shopkeeper has a right to ARREST A THIEF in their shop
If you catch a thief in your community vandalising a transformer you can arrest him
A person goes to a restaurant to eat and cannot pay he is detained and you are talking kidmap is that not funny
Yes I said arrest
Th air hostess effectively arrested her and citizen's arrest is lawful in Nigeria If the intention is to hand the detainee tothe police

The scenario was that the security had been called and she was detained and handed over

The plane is private properly and they are entitled to expel her in this case itt was part of due process of arrest that culminated in the logical arraignment in court
There are byelaws in airports that empower airport security to remove her from the plane
Oga u watch too mch american film.we do not hav citizen arrest in our constitution...please prove me wrong
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by bdon123(m): 7:57am On Aug 12, 2025
aribisala0:
Do you even think before talking
Do you know the meaning of rhe word BECAUSE
If implies causation
If you are going to put yourself in the middle of a conversation try to understand what the conversation is about
A comparison was being made with KWAM 1
She was allowed to fly because the official decided to exercise discretion having determined in their judgment that it was safe to allow her to travel regardless of what the other passenger did.
The airline could have refused her flying on the basis of what happened with t her needing another passenger to switch off her phone

They could still have refused her flying BECAUSE of that.
The point is having been allowed to fly why is she spending the night at Kirikiri
Wetin u dey talk sef,u can only be refused flight if u temperaments is judged uncontrollable and that is captain of flight decision. Her fone was shut down by someone seating next to her n she sat down n kept mute as per even though she was angry.believe me if she was still making threats or talking dem for deboard her even though fone is switched off.there nobody did her a favour allowing her fly
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by bdon123(m): 8:02am On Aug 12, 2025
aswani:
Sorry I don't get your point, is it that you can't do without your phone for one hour? In that case, you can take international Airlines only or travel by road.

You can't go to someone's house and they tell you to stop smoking and refuse to point blank, you will be rightfully turfed out to go and crave your addiction somewhere else.

Is she bigger, granted her boobies might be grin, than the others that switched off their phones when instructed?

Anyway thanks for the answer as to the flight time.
It is my fone.U can ask me to go into flight mode temporarily or all through d journey i will obey.bt switch off permanently?we will hav a problem becos that isnt part of airline tenets. I travelled BA,ethiopia air,emirates,air france,klm....d least is endless n none hav told passengers to switch off fone.U only hear flight mode or fone switch off.Look my friend this aint 1963 ,people hav rights that u cannot trample on without concrete reason.Even banning her for life is against her freedom of movement. ONLY A LAW COURT CAN DO THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF OTHERS.keyamo is not a court.Hjs job is to charge to court
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by aswani(m): 10:54am On Aug 12, 2025
bdon123:
It is my fone.U can ask me to go into flight mode temporarily or all through d journey i will obey.bt switch off permanently?we will hav a problem becos that isnt part of airline tenets. I travelled BA,ethiopia air,emirates,air france,klm....d least is endless n none hav told passengers to switch off fone.U only hear flight mode or fone switch off.Look my friend this aint 1963 ,people hav rights that u cannot trample on without concrete reason.Even banning her for life is against her freedom of movement. ONLY A LAW COURT CAN DO THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF OTHERS.keyamo is not a court.Hjs job is to charge to court
You are joking, what kind of logic is "it is my phone and international airlines don't tell me to"? It is their "house" and they make the rules, so you will go to Aso Rock or DSS office and refuse to switch the phone off when ordered àbi?

If you don't want to follow their orders, feel free to fly KLM to Holland and fly back to Lagos so you can have your phone.

This is pure madness, you are now talking about her rights. You clearly, and I apologise if you take this an insult, lack maturity and understanding of how to behave as an adult.

"Airline tenets" and you are an international traveller of all the airline you listed, interesting.
Re: Ibom Air Press Release On Unruly Passenger Incident by Alusiizizi(m): 12:03pm On Aug 12, 2025
bdon123:
Bt it is wrong to force passenger to switch off phone.there is flight mode in phones for such.I have traveled over 7 diff international airlines n none hav forced me to switch off....they always say switch off or flight mode.
I don't know whether you know anything about aviation in general but there is a reason why this phone policy is enforced by every single airline on the planet. Even if you don't have any idea why this is so surely this fact must lead you to suspect that the policy is important for the safety of the other passengers.
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