₦airaland Forum

Sagefromtheeast:
Guy slow your row, everyone should do what works for him.
Japa worked for some then, and didn't for some. The same with now.
Stop with the generalization already

FreeIgboho:
Right, I forgot that. And Yahoo boys, and Nigerians in jails all over the world, and Nigerians awaiting execution for drug trafficking in various countries, etc.
NONE of these existed in 1981!

madridguy:
Everything na time..everyone there go dey hustle to touch those cars.

funshint:
That's an ambulance at the front. Possibly a burial procession. Nothing really spectacular just a normal convoy. Don't let anybody pressure you; don't pressure yourself!

tunjijones:
As at this time butter and bread was luxury o.

Nigerians were poorer in the 80s compared to now.

Thunderfayamods:
You people should stop deceiving yourselves there was no time that Nigeria was good, things are only getting worse. 1981 I was in secondary school life was very difficult. No light no water no good roads the same issues we are still facing till today. Government used to give out what is called essential commodities for people to survive.
You people think that everything is all about Dollars versus Naira, go and check the minimum wage at the time and check how many people can afford to buy a car or build a house.

FreeIgboho:
When Niigeria was good.
When 1 Naira = $1.25.
BEFORE kidnappings, Fulani herdsmen, ESN, UGM, Buhari 2.0, IPOB, MNK, Boko Haram,
Simon Ekpa, Bola Tinubu, sit-at-home, Japa, etc. Add yours

meobizy:
Old cars are ugly.

Skydivine:
At what time did Chicago boy forfeit a large sum of money in plea bargain to the authorities in the US for a drug related case?

tommy589:
Government were not giving out essential commodities. It was the military in 1984 that started confiscating essential commodities namely sugar,rice and vegetable oil from "hoarders" and selling off to the public at cheap price.
Life was good.Minimum wage was 120 naira at a time disparity between 1 naira to a dollar was minimal. I know of SW and Bendel States where Teachers bought mint datsun cars from government loans.
Nigerians are going through a lot.What i know is that successive Nigerian leadership has no plan for anyone other than themselves.The Obj that left government having a storey building residence at quarry road is hugely different from the obj that left power the second time

Kaido:
And skull mining

FreeIgboho:
When Niigeria was good.
When 1 Naira = $1.25.
BEFORE kidnappings, Fulani herdsmen, ESN, UGM, Buhari 2.0, IPOB, MNK, Boko Haram,
Simon Ekpa, Bola Tinubu, sit-at-home, Japa, etc. Add yours

Thunderfayamods:
Do you think you are responding to a gen Z? During Shagari regime essential commodities were given out to people, Buhari that you are talking about seized and also distributed some.
There was no time that life was good in Nigeria things only got worse. Tell me where you had constant light in Nigeria at the time? No good roads, no good hospitals, not light etc same problems till today.

tommy589:
Where was the location Shagari and Buhari officials gave out essential commodities freely? Perhaps your location in 1981 makes you to conclude that's how the rest of the country was.

Nigeria was still experiencing the spill over of the 70s oil boom in 1981.If Nigeria was that poor or naira was not that strong, how come university students were able to afford the gate fee for Ben Murray Bruce shows.He did not run bankrupt by periodically bringing A-list American Artists to universities shows in Nigeria.Power Mike was also not left out with top American wrestlers having sold out shows too.
Tell me when last an individual promoter has arranged top rated artists for shows again in Nigeria.
Don't talk what you don't know.Nigeria had immigrants doing works Nigerians thought demeaning. What motivates immigrant to flood a country? How many homes in cities were using generators to power their homes or dug boreholes to have pipe borne water in "81.
Free education and free treatment with drugs in all Loobo states.Life was good to me and most Nigerians.
Though through the years her growth has become dissapointing,it is still the country that provided for some of us,so don't bad mouth her past

Thunderfayamods:
Look at the question this one is asking me! Are you truly old enough? I was born and raised at I-ode at the time I used to follow my mum to collect essential commodities at Muslim college I-ode.
How on earth will you be asking me to give you location where there were thousands around the country. Anyways I just gave you mine.
Again you think that you are talking to a gen z. May be you are from a rich home you were just dropping what your parents told you about.
I don't know why 81 is your headache.
Tell me how many places has power supply at the time? Tell me if there was no police brutality as of then? Tell me how many Nigerians can build houses or by a car at that time?
You are even contradicting yourself because as of that time people rely on well water. How many people can afford bore holes at the time or are you telling me that there was government pipe borne water?
As of today a lot of Nigerians are flooding to unthinkable countries that are even worse than Nigeria. People migrating to Nigeria does mean that Nigeria was good. The migrants you are referring to are even Ghanians tell me which other countries migrated to Nigeria?
Yes I was a product of free education and that is one of the reasons why I said things are worse it wasn't any better as of then.

tommy589:
The post is about 1981 and it is the basis for our comment. I am no longer surprised with your post,your location influenced your opinion of other places. What your mother was collecting was not federal government palliatives there was no reason for it,she could be a member of a political party.
It was late 80s I visited your town and it made it the second town that I saw people buying water from water tankers. The first was Sango otta. True or not,I heard how Late Onabanjo was frustrated by the water cartels.
If you don't have pipe borne water or constant electricity does that indicate others don't have?The first water reading meter i saw was at Zaria.Speak only of your location.Stop using your experience to make a sweeping generalisation of how other places in Nigeria were.
Either you are lying schooling in that era or did not attend secodary school within that town. Their is no way you won't have school mates locking up sadines,biscuits and other consumables in their lockers. And they don't have to come from rich homes.
So it was only the Ghanians you saw. What of the Asians from India,Pakistan and south korea that worked,had education here and used Nigerian passports to migrate to western countries. Or you did not have them as teachers or encounter them in hospitals as doctors and nurses
There is a video online of Indians professionals in USA celebrating and appreciating Nigeria for giving them free education and passports to be who they are today.
I know that you don't know that some people in a town in Nigeria were already speaking Russian because of the thousands of Ukrainians working there.What attracted those foreigners if not Nigerian wealth
I visited states in all the zones of the 19 states and I did not witnessed this "poor" Nigeria that you kept on talking about

Morbeta11:
Big boys convoy on Nnewi -Nnobi road in 1981. Big ballers in town...😁😁

tommy589:
You are wrong, butter and bread were not luxury. it was affordable that some secondary school students (public schools) still had their lockers regularly filled with sardines,butter, biscuits and other beverages. People eat well then than now,though standard of living had started declining.most middle income families had food rosters that enabled some homes not to eat same food twice in a week.
No doubt their is wide gap between the rich and poor, but an average Nigerian of today prefers to waste money on fake life styles than have a good diet

tommy589:
Government were not giving out essential commodities. It was the military in 1984 that started confiscating essential commodities namely sugar,rice and vegetable oil from "hoarders" and selling off to the public at cheap price.

Life was good. Minimum wage was 120 naira at a time disparity between 1 naira to a dollar was minimal. I know of SW and Bendel States where Teachers bought mint datsun cars from government loans.

Nigerians are going through a lot.What i know is that successive Nigerian leadership has no plan for anyone other than themselves.The Obj that left government having a storey building residence at quarry road is hugely different from the obj that left power the second time

tommy589:
Where was the location Shagari and Buhari officials gave out essential commodities freely? Perhaps your location in 1981 makes you to conclude that's how the rest of the country was.

Nigeria was still experiencing the spill over of the 70s oil boom in 1981.If Nigeria was that poor or naira was not that strong, how come university students were able to afford the gate fee for Ben Murray Bruce shows.He did not run bankrupt by periodically bringing A-list American Artists to universities shows in Nigeria.Power Mike was also not left out with top American wrestlers having sold out shows too.

Tell me when last an individual promoter has arranged top rated artists for shows again in Nigeria.

Don't talk what you don't know.Nigeria had immigrants doing works Nigerians thought demeaning. What motivates immigrant to flood a country? How many homes in cities were using generators to power their homes or dug boreholes to have pipe borne water in "81.

Free education and free treatment with drugs in all Loobo states.Life was good to me and most Nigerians.

Though through the years her growth has become dissapointing,it is still the country that provided for some of us,so don't bad mouth her past

tommy589:
The post is about 1981 and it is the basis for our comments. I am no longer surprised with your post,your location influenced your opinion of other places. What your mother was collecting was not federal government palliatives there was no reason for it.she could be a member of a political party,they were known to do this for registered members.

It was late 80s I visited your town and it made it the second town in my life that I saw people buying water from water tankers. The first was Sango otta. True or not,I heard how Late Onabanjo was frustrated by the water cartels.
If you don't have pipe borne water or constant electricity does that indicate others don't have?The first water reading meter i saw was at Zaria.Speak only of your location.Stop using your experience to make a sweeping generalisation of how other places in Nigeria were.

Either you are lying schooling in that era or did not attend secodary school within that town. Their is no way you won't have school mates locking up sadines,biscuits and other consumables in their lockers. And they don't have to come from rich homes.

So it was only the Ghanians you saw. What of the Asians from India, Pakistan and south korea that worked,had education here and used Nigerian passports to migrate to western countries. Or you did not have them as teachers or encounter them in hospitals as doctors and nurses

There is a video online of Indians professionals in USA celebrating and appreciating Nigeria for giving them free education and passports to be who they are today.

I know that you don't know that some people in a town in Nigeria were already speaking Russian because of the thousands of Ukrainians working there.What attracted those foreigners if not Nigerian wealth

I visited states in all the zones of the 19 states and I did not witnessed this "poor" Nigeria that you kept on talking about. Check my past posts you will see you are not talking to a baby

Thunderfayamods:
You don't appear to me like someone who is old enough that I can continue to engage and I won't argue forever. To tell you how un informed you are a country might be wealthy while the people are poor and that has been the problem with Nigeria.

And you are also here making sweeping generalization about Nigeria the same thing you are accusing me of doing. Honestly you are confused. You don't even know my place you are just talking gibberish.

You are also going completely out of point. My last response to you rich Nigerian.

Skydivine:
At what time did Chicago boy forfeit a large sum of money in plea bargain to the authorities in the US for a drug related case?

Konquest:
@tommy589

YOU spoke well. Your sequence of events trom the 1970s to the 1980s is absolutely spot on.

Where I disagree with "thunderfaya..." is in the aspect of him saying that ONLY Ghanaians were immigrants in Nigeria. In reality, there were several foreign expats living and working in Nigeria BUT Ghananians were the largest due to being just two countries away from Nigeria!

Just this week on a Ghana travel thread and in some of my older posts, I ALSO stated CLEARLY like you that as of the 1970s right into the 1980s, Ghananians, Sudan, Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis, a few from Afghanistan, British, Americans, some Jamaicans, etc, migrated to Nigeria for work as academics in primary, secondary, and tertiary institutions. They ALSO got employed in Industries BUT when the United States increased interest rates suddenly in the early 1980s to strengthen their economy, it led to a default in international loan payments by many developing countries. Hence, the political class ran into economic headwinds and the military dictatorships took over in many countries due to the economic headwinds. Then IBB's military rule (or diarchy like they tried to call it), introduced the Structural Adjustment Program or SAP from the late 1980s which further death with the economy and the foreign expats started leaving Nigeria in larger numbers for greener pastures in North America and Europe.

I still have friends among the foreign expat families who were academics from Ghana, Bangladesh, etc, as of today living in the United States and Canada. We still communicate as buddies from the early 1980s.

Konquest:
DESIST from further typing that B.S historical disinformation you are spreading there. Some of you guys just keep recycling these FAKE news and old wives tales because it makes you feel good. Read the link right BELOW to see and read the official 2003 document from the United States Embassy in Lagos State through the then Legal Attache Michael Bonner clearing Tinubu of any accusations of crimes in the United States. The United States doesn't do plea bargaining with drug b**"ns.

https://www.nairaland.com/7589449/tinubu-not-drug-baron-david

There was NO forfeiture for any criminal drug case by the current Nigerian President. The United States Government as of 1993 and the United States Embassy in 2003 through the then Legal Attache Michael Bonner CLEARLY stated in official documentation that The former Governor Bola Ahmed Tinubu NEVER had any hard drugs-related case, never been and his name has NEVER been in the FBI National Crime Information Center (NCIC) central database of ALL arrested or convicted people in the United State. Period. Is this too difficult for you people to understand?

https://www.nairaland.com/7589449/tinubu-not-drug-baron-david

Skydivine:
Keep deceiving yourself. Even Father Christmas does not forfeit $ 400k just like that. The information you are trying so hard to rewrite is all over the internet. I don’t know what you would do about that.

Konquest:
Listen, paying attention is key here, so don't muddled things up. In your ORIGINAL post that I quoted, I had to correct YOU when you WRONGLY typed that the , $460,000 forfeiture was for "drug crimes." It was NEVER for drug crimes BUT a case of unpaid tax deductions which he didn't pay on time because he was away working in Nigeria. It's a U.S. Federal crime if you don't pay your taxes here. So, that $460,000 out of the $2.8 million in the then Senator 'Bola Ahmed Tinubu's 8 United States Bank accounts had the $460,000 deducted from the total, then the rest was RETURNED to his bank accounts.

So, that $460,000 forfeiture WASN'T for drug crimes as FALSELY claimed by a lot of these random bloggers and propagandists online and offline.

INFACT, the United States Government would have seized all the entire $2.8 million in Tinubu's U.S. bank accounts if he was into hard drugs BECAUSE they have zero-tolerance for "drug b***ns."

I wanted to ATTACHED the U.S. Embassy's Legal Attache Michael Bonner's official 2003 document CLEARING the now President 'Bola Tinubu of any crimes ever in the entire history of the United States, BUT it's NOT attaching to NL.

https://www.nairaland.com/7589449/tinubu-not-drug-baron-david

This is why I gave you those 2 links to read. You will see and read Michael Bonner's 2003 official document CLEARING Tinubu ATTACHED on the Page 1 of the thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/7589449/tinubu-not-drug-baron-david

tommy589:
i appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge on the matter.Thank you 👏