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| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 7:14pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
WriteerNg:This guy keep dreaming about Ukraine all his life. them use Ukraine swear for you. WriteerNg:Did the US go there to grab land like your master grabber.? |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by Kaiser20: 7:14pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
Commentor:Because Russia IS fighting multiple NATO countries including US and UK some have been killed by attacks |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by Insectkiller: 7:17pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
End the War... Let Peace Reign
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| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 7:17pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
sleek214:And how do you want them to end it? you want Putin to takeover the whole of Ukraine is that your idea of end. I really think coward mentality runs in the head of most Africans here. WriteerNg:If you do not know the history behind Ukraine and Russian then you shouldn't be talking on matters you know absolutely nothing about. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 7:20pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
ogascomax:Some people sabi reason upside down oo.. Na which kind talk be this one? So Zelensky went and begged Putin to come takeover ukraine. NL go really see something for Nigerians hand. WriteerNg:More like asking if a person lost his money before armed robber visited his home. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 7:20pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
WriteerNg:The US were never their to grab Afghanistan lands unlike your lord and saviour Putin. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by correctguy101(m): 7:22pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
I repeat, this is not war but a brawl. In a real total standoff, Russia will pocket Ukraine immediately and block any aid. The real matter is unknown to the general public, they're just busy killing ordinary people, using them as cannon fodder in a fight that's never their business, a fight they didn't start. The main people claiming to have beef with each other and fighting (for whatever reasond) are in their palaces playing chess with the lives of the common people. Just like Israel and Palestine. Wetin Ukraine get wey dem wan use fight Russia. And e make any sense to think Russia can't prevent aid from reaching Ukraine. As Israel serious with Palestine, shey even food or fly fit enter there without Israel permission? Na the same scenerio but this time, the alagbara let the ólè receive help and drag the battle. Even when the matter started, Russia had to agree to a ceasefire to let grain move and they still allow Ukraine grains to continue moving out o. E just be like two pipu dey fight, dem come tell dem say make dem wait make one breath well or remove cloth, na serious fight be that? Plus dem still dey play soccer matches for the two countries o. Their leagues still continue. Abegi, there's no war. They just want to kill their people for matter wey their people no know. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by grandstar(m): 7:24pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
There's another reason: the Ukrainians are short of ammo. The US is no longer supplying them .massive amounts of military aid in the form of weapons. With no weapons, they are cooked. No amount of new manpower can alleviate the problem. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by luminouz(m): 7:46pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
But where are the women? If the men are in shortage, recruit the women to fight on the front lines. I thought there is equality in Ukraine like other western countries. If men are deserting, let women come forward and shame those men. After all, what a man can do, a woman can do 10 times better |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by khayce: 8:06pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
Russian propaganda shit already got here too. How many una dem don woe to join Russian war machine here . Make una talk true . . Add remaining character to complete 40 |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ekitimanalways(m): 8:17pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
Tinubumustgo:Yes, Ukraine is still actively recruiting foreign soldiers to join its International Legion to fight against Russia. The process involves applying through the International Legion website (https://ildu.mil.gov.ua/news/how-join-international-legions-defense-ukraine) undergoing an interview and assessment, and potentially participating in training and deployment. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 8:33pm On Aug 14, 2025*. Modified: 12:50pm On Aug 15, 2025 |
fxexperts:😂😂😂 At your ignorant jor. You don't even no nothing about the war. I believe it was after the invasion you became aware of it. To you because Russia invaded Russia they have become the aggressor not knowing that this did not even began now. The whole world knew that Ukraine was a buffer zone and was never supposed to become part of NATO. So it's known, it was an unwritten agreement and even written in some way. But Zalenskey decided that he most join NATO. Before the invasion he thought NATO we help him but I was shouting if he could hear me that please do not listen to NATO they will not fight for you. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by chrisxxx(m): 8:51pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
For me since Putin needs more land he should absorb the whole of Ukraine for peace to reign. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by CaseSensitive(m): 9:05pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
Sapiosexuality:I think you’re framing this as if I’m saying “Russia is right” and “Israel is wrong” which is the case in actual fact but that's besides the point I'm making. I’m pointing out that Western governments and media tend to frame invasions differently depending on who is doing them. Both wars are tragic no doubt, both kill innocents, and both involve immense suffering. The difference I’m highlighting is in how they are treated politically and diplomatically by the West. With Ukraine, the West presents it as a clear-cut case of aggression and calls for unyielding resistance, which obviously they are supporting Ukraine militarily against Russia. They've been training Ukrainian soldiers, years before the invasion. What would you do if you were Russia's head of state? sit back while they force a regime change through your closest neighbour? With Palestine, even in the face of civilian deaths and ethnic cleansing, there’s hesitation and outright support for Israel, America sends weapon to Israel to basically destroy Gaza and commit genocide. That’s not me saying one invasion is “better” than the other, it’s me saying the selective outrage and inconsistent application of principles is the problem. Who are the actors behind both wars? AMERICA & Co. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by Guestmale: 9:17pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
Commentor:God bless you, it seems the guy is being paid by Putin. He hardly or never post any Ukraine exploit in Russia territory. https://www.euronews.com/2025/08/11/ukrainian-drone-strikes-hit-defence-industry-facilities-across-russia https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-officials-say-least-16-wounded-ukrainian-drone-attacks-two-cities-2025-08-14/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/jun/22/one-million-and-counting-russian-casualties-hit-milestone-in-ukraine-war |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by Guestmale: 9:20pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
ogascomax:Where did you get this from? |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by RodgersAkpafu: 10:56pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
Russophiles are so deluded and delusional |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by themanderon: 11:00pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
The cowardly politicians will be willing to send ordinary citizens to war while they themselves and their families steer clear of the same wars they create. Zelensky should pick up arms and go to the Frontline the same goes for Putin but they will never do it because they love their lives but send others to die. I can't fight for any bloody politician in a war I have no business with. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by meobizy(m): 11:56pm On Aug 14, 2025 |
What is this propaganda piece? Botragelad, leave us alone! |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by Toktee(m): 3:56am On Aug 15, 2025 |
Kaliningrad: |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 12:46pm On Aug 15, 2025 |
Guestmale:Do your research right from when NATO was formed. Who it was formed against, the dissolution of USSR about NATO expansion. After the dissolution of Warsaw NATO was not supposed to expand to Eastern Europe. But NATO did not care however the red line was Ukraine. If you have watched documentaries of years ago you will understand all these things. Some NATO past officials and even USA politicians and generals have debated about Ukraine joining NATO and it has been flag of. So it's not a today discussion about whether if Ukraine can join NATO or not. Forget all the lies you see amongst the European leaders they knew that Ukraine can never be part of NATO but because they love war, satanist, evil they encourage Zalenskey and he was stupid enough to believe them. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 10:22pm On Aug 15, 2025 |
ogascomax:Look at this one you really think you are smart, but damn you are far from it. you just decide to go with the crowd opinion that suits you. you do not know anything about what stated the war. you think those tw men care about Ukraine joining nato, even when Trump has come out to let you know the reason the way started you are still here using your imagination for rubbish to twist narrative. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 5:46pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
fxexperts:Please I will like to know what started the war. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 12:05am On Aug 17, 2025 |
ogascomax:Even when it is obvious to you that these men are fighting for the rare earth minerals in Ukraine, people like you still choose to believe the propaganda you have been told. The USA wanted it with NATO, and it was sure Ukraine would have struck a deal with the West for these minerals, and Putin wanted I; that was why he acted fast to get the rare earth minerals for himself. He annexed Crimea earlier on because of the abundance of crude oil there and succeeded without any form of confrontation. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 7:28pm On Aug 17, 2025 |
fxexperts:You are the one that is following propaganda. It was beyond earth minerals. Those are the spoils of war. It's about national security. When Israel attacked Iran was it for mineral or security threat. Ukraine bringing NATO to Russia door step was a security threat to Russia. If you have been following the war you will have heard several times that Zalenskey has repeatedly told NATO that they should accept Ukraine to join NATO. It was all about NATO. When Ukraine was invaded in the first week Ukraine told Putin that they have agreed not to join and that they want peace deal which Russia agreed to until Boris Johnson and USA official came to Ukraine and told them to continue fighting that they would support them. A ceased fire would have been agreed on the first week. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 8:39pm On Aug 17, 2025 |
ogascomax:There was never a time when Boris Johnson said they were not going to accept a peace deal from Russia, you are still talking propaganda. Russia first annexed Crimea in 2014 was that also because they wanted to join NATO, they wanted to join NATO because Russia annexed Crimea from them without any resistance whatsoever. So if you were the Ukrainian president and Russia so easily annexed one of your biggest oil-rich islands, you would not look for a way to get a strong, formidable ally to protect you. Image Cameron is a strong country in Africa, and the match and annex Bonny Island from Nigeria militarily without any resistance from us, will you not ask the president to fortify our military so we can protect our other rich island? So tell me why Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, when there was no talk of Ukraine joining NATO then. Our forefathers has been fighting wars for long now and the main aim is to acquire more lands and territories. why are we denying now. Everything is just for the interest of money. Even China still wanting to acquire Taiwan is because of the raw material for producing chips that Taiwan has in abundance. Nothing more even the US giving protection to Taiwan is still because they do not want China to have a monopoly over the computer chip maker market. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by fxexperts: 10:53am On Aug 18, 2025 |
ogascomax:Well, you can believe whatever you want to believe no problem. So Poland, which joined NATO, and Finland, which later joined after Putin invaded Ukraine, are not bringing NATO to the Russian doorstep. i just checked the Russia map now, and even Finland is bordered by Russia, so has that not brought NATO into the Russian border? You people just believe anything for the sake of believing it. For once Ukraine has a lot of Lithium Rare earth metal and you all know the world is gradually planning a way of moving away from Crude oil by making a lot of EV cars at the moment, you will agree with me that electric car is the future and if electric car is the future that automatically means battery is the future automatically means Lithium is the future. So what happens if tomorrow the world no longer needs crude oil and gas, then you want Russia to cease to exist. Russia has made all its money from selling Oil and gas for all these years. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 1:47pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
fxexperts:When Hitler had captured several nations during world war two. Which country was it route to Russia? Ukraine and Russia has long history in terms of nationalism. They are both closer to each other than any formal USSR nation, not Poland and the rest. Some part of Ukraine speaks Russian dialect. They have some common history . Ukraine is far bigger than Poland in terms of size. We are talking about reality you are looking at map. Hitler would have used Ukraine to get access to Russia not Poland. Nigeria has borders with several African countries but there are borders that matters the most. I have even typed this before I decided to ask CHATGPT this question and he just told me what I knew and some which I told you already. Who is now following propaganda between us. That's a very interesting geopolitical question — and yes, this idea has actually been a major point in international relations. --- ✅ Was Ukraine meant to be a "buffer zone" for Russia? Historically yes — many analysts believe that: Russia has long wanted neighboring countries like Ukraine, Belarus, and others to be neutral zones between itself and Western military influence (like NATO). In Russian strategic thinking, Ukraine has been seen as a buffer state protecting Russia from Western powers and providing a protective distance from NATO forces. --- Why does Russia see it that way? History & Security: Russia was invaded multiple times from the west (Napoleon, Hitler), so it became obsessed with having friendly or neutral countries on its borders. NATO Expansion: After the Soviet Union collapsed, many Eastern European countries joined NATO. Russia didn't want Ukraine — a large Slavic country right on its border — to join NATO as well. Spheres of Influence: Russia still sees Ukraine as part of its traditional sphere of influence, not a pro-Western state. --- What about Ukraine's perspective? Ukraine wants to be sovereign, choose its own alliances, and many Ukrainians want to move closer to the EU and NATO for protection and development. They don’t want to be a buffer or puppet state — they want independence and self-determination. --- So your question in one line: > Russia WANTS Ukraine to act as a buffer zone for its own security, but Ukraine considers itself a sovereign country and doesn’t want to be treated that way. Would you like a visual summary or a simple map explanation of NATO/Russia borders? That can help make it even clearer. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 1:51pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
fxexperts:All this your reasons are just something outside the box. My previous comments and post from chatGPT has given you the real reason not story by noon light. So countries without oil and other minerals don't exist since you think those things would have made Russia not to exist as though oil has been there for time immemorial. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 10:53am On Aug 19, 2025 |
fxexperts:My friend you know nothing about what is happening jor. To even say that Boris Johnson never did. I am talking to a novice in this war. What I told you is a common knowledge and if you looking to hear such things from the news then you most truly be a rated amateur. You think some informations are gotten from your normal mainstream media. In the first week to the invasion Zalenskey already sued for peace until he was given assurance to continue the fight that they would support him. He was so stupid to believe them. You think war appears the way you see it. You don't know about intelligence when it comes to understand behind the scenes. It's like how an official was sent to Saddam Hussein that if he invade Kuwait that nobody would say anything. Then he went ahead to invade that was what cause the Gulf War. Before Russia invaded I knew that if he does Europe will not enter the war. Because I understand the deception of Europe or the West. They are only good at misleading people because this war has been written already. So it was not a news to me. Israel attack on Iran has been written long ago. All they look new to you but to the intelligence community it's not a news. Have you read the book Economy mafia? You don't know anything about anything about the world except what you hear in the news. What we know is what some uninformed we call conspiracy theories but they are happening everyday before our eyes. I will give you and example. Like when Pastor Chris said that COVID vaccine came out from Wuhan lab. There was a great push back and attack on him. Years later they accepted that it really came out from there. They are things that will still happen again people are just waiting for the reason to do it and yes they will be given the reason to do that. Example again, Hamas vs Israel. For annexing Crimea he gave valid reasons for that. To me they were valid and the underline reasons is also for Russia security. But it was even more. Didn't the people do referendum? Crimea was Russia speaking region also. He said Crimea was part of Russia until it was giving to Ukraine in 1954. They are more reasons. |
| Re: Why Ukranians Are Refusing To Fight For Zelensky (Photos) by ogascomax: 11:04am On Aug 19, 2025 |
fxexperts:My friend you know nothing about what is happening jor. To even say that Boris Johnson never did. I am talking to a novice in this war. What I told you is a common knowledge and if you looking to hear such things from the news then you most truly be a rated amateur. You think some informations are gotten from your normal mainstream media. In the first week to the invasion Zalenskey already sued for peace until he was given assurance to continue the fight that they would support him. He was so stupid to believe them. You think war appears the way you see it. You don't know about intelligence when it comes to understand behind the scenes. It's like how an official was sent to Saddam Hussein that if he invade Kuwait that nobody would say anything. Then he went ahead to invade that was what cause the Gulf War. Before Russia invaded I knew that if he does Europe will not enter the war. Because I understand the deception of Europe or the West. They are only good at misleading people because this war has been written already. So it was not a news to me. Israel attack on Iran has been written long ago. All they look new to you but to the intelligence community it's not a news. Have you read the book Economy mafia? You don't know anything about anything about the world except what you hear in the news. What we know is what some uninformed we call conspiracy theories but they are happening everyday before our eyes. I will give you and example. Like when Pastor Chris said that COVID vaccine came out from Wuhan lab. There was a great push back and attack on him. Years later they accepted that it really came out from there. They are things that will still happen again people are just waiting for the reason to do it and yes they will be given the reason to do that. Example again, Hamas vs Israel. ✅ Was Ukraine meant to be a "buffer zone" for Russia? Historically yes — many analysts believe that: Russia has long wanted neighboring countries like Ukraine, Belarus, and others to be neutral zones between itself and Western military influence (like NATO). In Russian strategic thinking, Ukraine has been seen as a buffer state protecting Russia from Western powers and providing a protective distance from NATO forces. --- Why does Russia see it that way? History & Security: Russia was invaded multiple times from the west (Napoleon, Hitler), so it became obsessed with having friendly or neutral countries on its borders. NATO Expansion: After the Soviet Union collapsed, many Eastern European countries joined NATO. Russia didn't want Ukraine — a large Slavic country right on its border — to join NATO as well. Spheres of Influence: Russia still sees Ukraine as part of its traditional sphere of influence, not a pro-Western state. --- What about Ukraine's perspective? Ukraine wants to be sovereign, choose its own alliances, and many Ukrainians want to move closer to the EU and NATO for protection and development. They don’t want to be a buffer or puppet state — they want independence and self-determination. --- So your question in one line: > Russia WANTS Ukraine to act as a buffer zone for its own security, but Ukraine considers itself a sovereign country and doesn’t want to be treated that way. Would you like a visual summary or a simple map explanation of NATO/Russia borders? That can help make it even clearer. |
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