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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Elusive001: 9:35am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
The Israel of God today is not the State of Israel.

They do not and would not enjoy divine protection as they did under the old covenant of Moses.

The Israel of God is the nation of spiritual Israel not of fleshly Jews. They are from every tribe, tongue and nation.

Cornelius was the first of many non- Jews to enter into this covenant.

As at today, God is not fighting Israel’s battles nor is he with them in their controversies.

Stop saying what is not correct. Study and learn.

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by dododawa1: 9:35am On Aug 15, 2025

laughing laughing laughing laughing

isreal old taker is (peaceful nation) DIFFERENT from isreal of nowadays(killing killing killing)

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Decent09(m): 9:38am On Aug 15, 2025

InvertedHammer:
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Oyibo people sef!

White British colonized the Indians, claimed the territory and renamed it USA.
White British colonized Palestine, claimed the territory and baptized it as Israel in 1948.
White British colonized part of West Africa, claimed the territory, amalgamated some regions in 1914 and called it Nigeria. Don't forget that the conqueror wrote history which is why a highly "educated" Nigerian will regurgitate that Mungo Park discovered River Niger even in this 21st century.

What's going on in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine is akin to what's going on in Nigeria between Fulani and the rest. The world know who is arming Israel, do we know who is arming the Fulani? Israel claims they own the land as much as Fulani claim they own Nigeria. I guess it is only unfair when people are the direct victims. It is gross hypocrisy to support Israel and not support Fulani herdsmen.

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What a great hypothesis, Nigerians Christians need to wake up from their Slumber, why accepting Israel and not accepting the Indomitable Fulanis, all forms of criminality are the same everywhere

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by favour32(m): 9:38am On Aug 15, 2025

dododawa1:
laughing laughing laughing laughing

isreal old taker is (peaceful nation) DIFFERENT from isreal of nowadays(killing killing killing)

It's spelt Israel not Isreal

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by NaijaCopy(m): 9:41am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
The Israel of God today is not the State of Israel.

They do not and would not enjoy divine protection as they did under the old covenant of Moses.

The Israel of God is the nation of spiritual Israel not of fleshly Jews. They are from every tribe, tongue and nation.

Cornelius was the first of many non- Jews to enter into this covenant.

As at today, God is not fighting Israel’s battles nor is he with them in their controversies.

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, And shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob." (Rom 11: 25 & 26)

God does not abandon His covenant like men do with marriages etc. He may have occasionally punished them and extended the gospel of grace to the gentiles, but He is bound by His words.

If you're a Christian, then you're a Christian, not. Jew or Israelite. Anywhere the Bible mentions Israel, it's talking about this same Israel. Nothing like 'spiritual' Israel.
Why do you think Israel cannot be defeated, despite being surrounded by enemies?? You think America's greatness is down to their "individual brilliance" as humans?

Or you think they don't know what they're doing?Or you think God does not play a part in the affairs of men today as individuals, society, or nation? Not everything is down to physical efforts or a lack of it. This life is more spiritual than physical.

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by MarkudiRITA(f): 9:41am On Aug 15, 2025

He is right. The United States is blessed and retains it's World Power status because of Israel.
The states of Alaska and Texas are blessings to the United States. They never knew those states had that amount of resources when they joined the old United States.

God Bless Israel

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Onlinetutor7: 9:43am On Aug 15, 2025

It's a Blasphemy to declare that God's covenant is closed. Even the book of revelation still declares the validity of God's covenant to the house of Israel to the ends of times.

Immatex:
God has no business with today’s State of Israel.

His covenant with the People of Israel has since been closed especially since they as nation reject Christ.

However, the Senator is correct. The state of Israel will be wiped out by the Islamic nations surrounding it if they could.

Israel can only survive by continuing to defend itself

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by michoim(m): 9:43am On Aug 15, 2025

Righteousness2:
Simple, short and undiluted truth from Senator Lindsey Graham.
This sort of Understanding of this reality is very rare in these times.

You can say that again...

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by authority2006(m): 9:45am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
God has no business with today’s State of Israel.

His covenant with the People of Israel has since been closed especially since they as nation reject Christ.

However, the Senator is correct. The state of Israel will be wiped out by the Islamic nations surrounding it if they could.

Israel can only survive by continuing to defend itself

People of the world are now confused, they can no longer differentiate between offence and defence.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by authority2006(m): 9:47am On Aug 15, 2025

Tinubumustgo:
As long as the Americans are with Israel, there's no cause for alarms.

Untillllllll grin

There is something called world war, I don't think Isreal will survive third world war because many countries will come for her and USA will be too busy to be sending her own weapons to Israel.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Manfromlasvegas(m): 9:48am On Aug 15, 2025

aribisala0:
As an African I find Christians and Muslims
Funny

If you are a genuine Christian who believes in Jesus

This same Jesus that Jews and Israel reject
Then how can you continue to pursue the narrative that Jehovah is still with Israel

It is either Jesus and Christianity is false AND Jehovah is still with Israel and the Jews or the Jews and Israel are on the wrong path

I urge you to go and read your bible the following
Matthew 3:9 and Luke 3:8

Clearly Christian doctrine is not compatible with any special place for Israel or Jews after Jesus resurrection

Otherwise. WHAT WAS THE POINT

IS it not telling that the entire Israel rejected and continues to reject Christianity

Africans need to wake up there is no way a God would create this world and go and pick a people as special above all people

Funny those people now reject his 9nly begotten son

The truth is that the vast majority of people who wake up and do the most about god are the most ignorant about who god is. God is a universal experience that is not limited to time, place, education, culture. God can not have special people. The Jews, the very powerful ones, are basically occultists who have developed thought systems and religions that have corrupted our understanding of what God is. Why would any true god pick one of his numerous children and favour and protect them everlastingly even in clear instances when they are wrong? What kind of God is that? Would you, even as imperfect as you are, do that to your biological children? What that tells us is that there is no god or he is an a.ss.ho.le. But people who would not benefit from this id.iocy are ready to defend it with their entire lives. It beggars belief honestly

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Onlinetutor7: 9:50am On Aug 15, 2025

Why did you start from 1948. Israel have been in in existence way before that time.
Go and study extensively.

InvertedHammer:
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Oyibo people sef!

White British colonized the Indians, claimed the territory and renamed it USA.
White British colonized Palestine, claimed the territory and baptized it as Israel in 1948.
White British colonized part of West Africa, claimed the territory, amalgamated some regions in 1914 and called it Nigeria. Don't forget that the conqueror wrote history which is why a highly "educated" Nigerian will regurgitate that Mungo Park discovered River Niger even in this 21st century.

What's going on in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine is akin to what's going on in Nigeria between Fulani and the rest. The world know who is arming Israel, do we know who is arming the Fulani? Israel claims they own the land as much as Fulani claim they own Nigeria. I guess it is only unfair when people are the direct victims. It is gross hypocrisy to support Israel and not support Fulani herdsmen.

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by aribisala0(m): 9:51am On Aug 15, 2025

Manfromlasvegas:
The truth is that the vast majority of people who wake up and do the most about god are the most ignorant about who god is. God is a universal experience that is not limited to time, place, education, culture. God can not have special people. The Jews, the very powerful ones, are basically occultists who have developed thought systems and religions that have corrupted our understanding of what God is. Why would any true god pick one of his numerous children and favour and protect them everlastingly even in clear instancewhen they are wrong? What kind of God is that? Would you, even as imperfect as you are, do that to your biological children? What that tells us is that there is no god or he is an a.ss.ho.le. But people who would not benefit from this id.iocy are ready to defend it with their entire lives. It beggars belief honestly

That is assuming there is a God

The truth is that in objective reality that everyone shares
God if God exists does not have anything to do with our lives that is demonstrably agreed on
Whether you believe or not makes no difference

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by ogascomax: 9:53am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
God has no business with today’s State of Israel.

His covenant with the People of Israel has since been closed especially since they as nation reject Christ.

However, the Senator is correct. The state of Israel will be wiped out by the Islamic nations surrounding it if they could.

Israel can only survive by continuing to defend itself

Which Bible you dey read. Sometimes I wonder the kind of Christians we see around. You know that when someone no know book them go say the person dull. You are a very dull Christian.
What covenant did God entered with Abraham and what did God said to the prophets.
It's sad when Christians says that the current State of Israel were not the real Israel. When God already told them that they will be scattered abroad and a time will come that God would gathered them across the Nations they were scattered to. The only sensible argument anyone can come up with is to say Israel does not exist in tribes like as it was the 12 tribes of Israel but to say Israel is gone and the present people aren't from old that is the highest level of Christian dullness.

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Onlinetutor7: 9:54am On Aug 15, 2025

Mr Atheist rest.
You believe there is no God, You are still the one suggesting how his covenant should be.
He has made His Convent with the Jews, call Him partial or whatever. He does how he wishes cause He is God.

Manfromlasvegas:
The truth is that the vast majority of people who wake up and do the most about god are the most ignorant about who god is. God is a universal experience that is not limited to time, place, education, culture. God can not have special people. The Jews, the very powerful ones, are basically occultists who have developed thought systems and religions that have corrupted our understanding of what God is. Why would any true god pick one of his numerous children and favour and protect them everlastingly even in clear instances when they are wrong? What kind of God is that? Would you, even as imperfect as you are, do that to your biological children? What that tells us is that there is no god or he is an a.ss.ho.le. But people who would not benefit from this id.iocy are ready to defend it with their entire lives. It beggars belief honestly

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Manfromlasvegas(m): 9:55am On Aug 15, 2025

aribisala0:
That is assuming there is a God

The truth is that in objective reality that everyone shares
God if God exists does not have anything to do with our lives that is demonstrably agreed on
Whether you believe or not makes no difference

Absolutely correct. I do think there is a god but he certainly doesn't interfere in the affairs of men. This is the only way this world can make sense for me.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by ogascomax: 9:58am On Aug 15, 2025

NaijaCopy:
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, And shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob." (Rom 11: 25 & 26)

God does not abandon His covenant like men do with marriages etc. He may have occasionally punished them and extended the gospel of grace to the gentiles, but He is bound by His words.

If you're a Christian, then you're a Christian, not. Jew or Israelite. Anywhere the Bible mentions Israel, it's talking about this same Israel. Nothing like 'spiritual' Israel.
Why do you think Israel cannot be defeated, despite being surrounded by enemies?? You think America's greatness is down to their "individual brilliance" as humans?

Or you think they don't know what they're doing?Or you think God does not play a part in the affairs of men today as individuals, society, or nation? Not everything is down to physical efforts or a lack of it. This life is more spiritual than physical.

It's sad when I see Christians saying the present Israel are not the real Israel. It makes me wondered who are they. Where are they from and who is their teachers. They are several scriptures you can see that will show you they are or that will enable them to believe. Even the covenant that God gave Abraham was an everlasting covenant. God spoke to the fathers and prophets about these things. It's very sad what they believed in.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Hellisreal70: 10:06am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
If saying that makes you happy, fire down.

You have declared yourself Righteous so enjoy your delusion.

For me, I know God is not partial and Israel does not represent God

Your posts makes me to remember the word of Jesus Christ that says the pharisees are like the blind that is leading the blinds on their way, both the blinds that follows and the blind him self will fall into the ditch.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by appleous: 10:08am On Aug 15, 2025

mikeapollo:
You may decide and edit the Bible if you choose to and put in it the difference between the ''Biblical'' and ''modern day'' Israel as you have discussed with God.
If the countries surrounding Israel like Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria in the Bible are the same as the countries that we have today, I don't understand why some people would say that Israel in the Bible is not the same Israel today. Just telling lies because of the envy and hatred for Israel and the Jews.
Go and support your holy people of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran etc and let Israel be. And if you want to destroy the 'evil' you can go join the war

I didn't bother reading the hogwash you wrote.

Hence, I will respond to you with this:

Black lives do not matter in Israel
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/3/29/black-lives-do-not-matter-in-israel

Your religious masters and saviours dont even rate you.

Keep supporting them.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by MacDee001(m): 10:09am On Aug 15, 2025

Jesus Christ our savior.. They always use scripture to manipulate their evil genocide..

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by nexta007(m): 10:17am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
The Israel of God today is not the State of Israel.

They do not and would not enjoy divine protection as they did under the old covenant of Moses.

The Israel of God is the nation of spiritual Israel not of fleshly Jews. They are from every tribe, tongue and nation.

Cornelius was the first of many non- Jews to enter into this covenant.

As at today, God is not fighting Israel’s battles nor is he with them in their controversies.

Scripture is a double-edged sword. It has both literal and prophetic meanings. There is the Israel of God and the Israel on earth. Abraham's covenant with God that led to today's Israel is still VERY MUCH ACTIVE and IN FORCE. God made an EVERLASTING COVENANT with the nation of Israel and whether they serve Him or not doesn't change this. There is also the Commonwealth of Israel in which even the Gentiles have been brought into. It's in that spiritual commonwealth that you and I belong. We are now the "Adopted" children of God.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by linearity: 10:17am On Aug 15, 2025

Righteousness2:
The Reason GOD will judge and Deal with the Nations is due to the way they treat ISRAEL.

The Reason America is a Super power is because of its Relationship and Dealings with ISRAEL right from its founding fathers.

One of The Major Reason America will collapse will be because of ISRAEL. Definitely not Now with Trump as president.
I Believe a time will come when the US will turn on ISRAEL. The Biden/ Harris presidency was already doing that and the US was heading to a fall .

Trump Presidency is a Mercy period for ths US.
I Believe after Trump presidency, the US may get one Depraved biden/ Harris like kind of presidency that will lead to its fall.

You clearly are very ignorant of what you speak of.

The Nation Israel of today have turned their back on God right from when they rejected Jesus.

All the very things you criticized Biden/Harris administration of and labeled them anti-Christ because of are practiced in Israel and sanctioned by the Government of Israel and people of Israel.

Israel National laws allow gays and lesbians, gays and lesbians get married in Israel and serve in their military.

Israel is a big abortion proponent, Israel have a National abortion board to which anyone wanting an abortion would apply to and they have 98% approval rating.

Name any of the Ten Commandments given to Moses to be followed by Israelites, there is a National law or practice or culture in today’s Israel that have perfected the act of breaking that commandment and normalizing day to day life in Israel that goes against those commandments.

The Israel of today have hideous and ungodly practices that the Biden/Harris administration never even dreamed of.

Biblically America defending Israel is acting against God’s judgment or delaying God’s judgment on Israel for turning their back against Him. The Bible said Israel will be persecuted and punished for turning their backs against God.

Jesus stated that, no turn will be left unturned and Jerusalem would be destroyed culminating in the battle of Gog and Magog….the intense persecution and suffering will be want would make Israel to turn back towards God, ask for forgiveness and repent before God will come and defeat their enemies in the battle of Gog and Magog.

I don’t know if you are in sync with stats from the US recently. The US is a Nation in decline today, the Job reports, wholesale price index, inflation, economy, etc points to a Nation in rapid decline under Trump….may this is a punishment from God on the Trump administration for supporting Israel and delaying God’s judgment on Israel and eventual repentance of Israel and their return back to Him.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Manfromlasvegas(m): 10:20am On Aug 15, 2025

Onlinetutor7:
Mr Atheist rest.
You believe there is no God, You are still the one suggesting how his covenant should be.
He has made His Convent with the Jews, call Him partial or whatever. He does how he wishes cause He is God.

I am no atheist, even though a lot of persons have called me that. I do believe in a god, but not in a god that has been sold to the vast majority of persons. Your god gets jealous, angry, picks sides, justifies slavery, genocide, yet he is all powerful, all loving, all knowing, all just, but would watch good men suffer immeasurably without cause, and let unfathomable evil reign. What kind of God is that? I believe in a god that agrees with my common sense, a god that doesn't necessarily has to be a person, more like an experience, a cosmic mystery, a deep universal knowing, not defined by dogma, religion, or logic, an eternal consciousness that permeates all things, and surrounds all things, and is not limited by time, space or barrier.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Kavod: 10:20am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
If saying that makes you happy, fire down.

You have declared yourself Righteous so enjoy your delusion.

For me, I know God is not partial and Israel does not represent God

Just ignore him, Same way the west installed a crypto-arab family in saudi is also they did to that state called isreal. Saudi ruling house originated from Turkey while these so called jews are from poland. Ignore him, its called systematic brainwashing

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Hellisreal70: 10:21am On Aug 15, 2025

Manfromlasvegas:
Absolutely correct. I do think there is a god but he certainly doesn't interfere in the affairs of men. This is the only way this world can make sense for me.

You are wrong, the bible says in Daniel 4:25 through the mouth of prophet Daniel that God ruleth in the affairs of men.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Hellisreal70: 10:31am On Aug 15, 2025

I can see in this thread so far that the agents of the kingdom of darkness are trying so hard to change the view of the word of God concerning the covenanted nation of God (Israel).
God's covenant and words concerning Israel is eternal, God is the God of Israel.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Manfromlasvegas(m): 10:34am On Aug 15, 2025

Hellisreal70:
You are wrong, the bible says in Daniel 4:25 through the mouth of prophet Daniel that God ruleth in the affairs of men.

You are quoting from Jewish mythology. This is not objective truth. You are quoting from a book that chronicles Jewish history and how ancient Jews viewed the world. This is inadmissible becomes it has no objective validity.

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Peacecore: 10:36am On Aug 15, 2025

Immatex:
God has no business with today’s State of Israel.

His covenant with the People of Israel has since been closed especially since they as nation reject Christ.

However, the Senator is correct. The state of Israel will be wiped out by the Islamic nations surrounding it if they could.

Israel can only survive by continuing to defend itself

So God also abandoned Muslim abd Buddhist for rejecting Jesus? angry

Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by TOPCRUISE(m): 10:37am On Aug 15, 2025

God abandons countries that abandoned US. The US have learnt from the mistakes of fallen empires like Persia, Roman, German. That is why they will never abandon Israel.

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Re: If America Abandons Israel, God Will Abandon America - US Senator Graham by Hassanmaye(m): 10:42am On Aug 15, 2025

Look at the mad mad shouting God will leave America? Did you know God? You know God and starving children and women? Your time will come, trying to use reverse psychology to deceive amerika

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