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I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?
Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

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tctrills:
I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?
Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

Yes, when God made man, male and female. He made us all! Genesis 1:27

Also, from God's conversation with Job, the Lord has storehouses for things so it's imperative to also deduce that he has a storehouse for men. "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail?" Job38:22

It might not be accurate to use "storehouse" but a temporary dwelling place for human spirits will be in order.

Man is the form by which God experience his creation.

man is Gods spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust.

we are spiritual beings having a human experience.

before our incarnation here on earth, we were Gods and Goddesses.

the important question should be at which point does the spirit enters the feotus? at which point does it become conscious?

when this life is over, our bodies are buried for it to return to dust, and our real self returns to become one with God...it is pure and does not need to be saved from anything.

tctrills:
I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?
Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

Ephesians1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He [a]made us accepted in the Beloved.
We were chosen in Christ even before the foundation of the world and also predestined to be adopted as sons.

ichuka:
Ephesians1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He [a]made us accepted in the Beloved.
We were chosen in Christ even before the foundation of the world and also predestined to be adopted as sons.

how does this relate to our supposed pre-existence? I can predestine a lot of things, it doesn't infer their pre-existence. At least before I build a server architecture🤔, I "predestine" it based on what I want it to achieve—Does it warrant its preexistence? Or it shows my predetermination and omniscience? 🤷

tctrills:
I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?

Going by the literal understanding of the spiritual context of scriptures and not the conventional religious dogmatic illogical doctrines, the bible have it that over 95% Christians worldwide came from pre-existing life. That is, they had lived old and died and were born into life again as new born babies several hundreds of times now with different bodies immediately they had died in the several times they died, but not necessarily did they born in the same Christian family that they previously died.

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.


Then the remaining less than 5% were converted into Christianity from other religions and they will be born immediately after they die also.

But for Non Christians, they are only procreated and they have been dying off forever after living once.
Except, on the condition that they accept Jesus Christ.

Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

Science did not teach that homosapiens pre-exist earth, is there anything like that?

paxonel:
Going by the literal understanding of the spiritual context of scriptures and not the conventional religious dogmatic illogical doctrines, the bible have it that over 95% Christians worldwide came from pre-existing life. That is, they had lived old and died and were born into life again as new born babies several hundreds of times now with different bodies immediately they had died in the several times they died, but not necessarily did they born in the same Christian family that they previously died.

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.


Then the remaining less than 5% were converted into Christianity from other religions and they will be born immediately after they die also.

But for Non Christians, they are only procreated and they have been dying off forever after living once.
Except, on the condition that they accept Jesus Christ.

Science did not teach that homosapiens pre-exist earth, is there anything like that?

Why not ...kukuma say man was reincarnated 🤨? Instead of this "absolute" periphrasis that you have concocted 🤷 without any proof.

Even the scriptures you quoted are visibly taken out of context to fit such contrived doctrine 🤦🏾‍♂️.

I will address this later, let me first have me a shut eye, when I am refreshed. I will come for you.

Gabrielshow24:
Why not ...kukuma say man was reincarnated 🤨?
Instead of this "absolute" periphrasis

If you want to call it reincarnation so be it.
But note that the word reincarnation was never used in the bible because it is contemporary, that's why you see me breaking it down to the simplest for one to understand that the scripture had actually meant reincarnation.

that you have concocted 🤷

I didn't write 1 Corinthians 15:35 to the end of the scripture. Everything i said here is clearly stated there, no one can deny it. Unless you want to tear that part of the bible away

without any proof.

To further proof what i have said that they have been giving birth to us with a new body after we die, which is the concept of our resurrection and our salvation in Christ.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

And another scripture says IF ANY MAN BE IN CHRIST HE IS A NEW CREATURE.

we all know what creature is, that they all exist here on this earth

Even the scriptures you quoted are visibly taken out of context to fit such contrived doctrine 🤦🏾‍♂️.

you are seeing it that way because i didn't quote it from the beginning.

Start from verse 35 and read it comprehensively.

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

Then read it down and see the answer to the question for yourself.
You can't tear this part of the bible away simply because you want to proof your doctrine of humans evaporating to the thin air someday.

I will address this later, let me first have me a shut eye, when I am refreshed. I will come for you.

You can't dispute the fact that God's kingdom is already in us here on this earth by virtue of Christ resurrection

Gabrielshow24:
Yes, when God made man, male and female. He made us all! Genesis 1:27

Also, from God's conversation with Job, the Lord has storehouses for things so it's imperative to also deduce that he has a storehouse for men. "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail?" Job38:22

It might not be accurate to use "storehouse" but a temporary dwelling place for human spirits will be in order.

Like your phone, car, mannequins, the snow was first created before it needs to be stored, so you are wrong.

Man only existed on the day and point when God created them which is the period after God had created the earth and animals.

tctrills:
I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?
Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

How is this question going to help person escape fire?

Anyway, Christians do not believe in these things

paxonel:
If you want to call it reincarnation so be it.
But note that the word reincarnation was never used in the bible because it is contemporary, that's why you see me breaking it down to the simplest for one to understand that the scripture had actually meant reincarnation.
I didn't write 1 Corinthians 15:35 to the end of the scripture. Everything i said here is clearly stated there, no one can deny it. Unless you want to tear that part of the bible away
To further proof what i have said that they have been giving birth to us with a new body after we die, which is the concept of our resurrection and our salvation in Christ.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

And another scripture says IF ANY MAN BE IN CHRIST HE IS A NEW CREATURE.

we all know what creature is, that they all exist here on this earth
you are seeing it that way because i didn't quote it from the beginning.

Start from verse 35 and read it comprehensively.

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

Then read it down and see the answer to the question for yourself.
You can't tear this part of the bible away simply because you want to proof your doctrine of humans evaporating to the thin air someday.

You can't dispute the fact that God's kingdom is already in us here on this earth by virtue of Christ resurrection

Quoting verse off point, I will address your issues in a jiffy. Let me quickly attend to some ridiculous claim in another thread🤦🏾‍♂️. I will be right back.

We will have full discourse on each verse and how you miraculously drew reincarnation from them👀

Dtruthspeaker:
Like your phone, car, mannequins, the snow was first created before it needs to be stored, so you are wrong.

Man only existed on the day and point when God created them which is the period after God had created the earth and animals.

Exactly, they were created in Gen1, then subsequently stored.

Gabrielshow24:
Exactly, they were created in Gen1, then subsequently stored.

No. They were never stored. Genesis 1 only shows God's Plan. Genesis 2, is what shows when and how God created us one by one

Dtruthspeaker:
No. They were never stored. Genesis 1 only shows God's Plan. Genesis 2, is what shows when and how God created us one by one

Gen 2, is the physical exemplification—They were already made in Gen1.

paxonel:
Going by the literal understanding of the spiritual context of scriptures and not the conventional religious dogmatic illogical doctrines, the bible have it that over 95% Christians worldwide came from pre-existing life. That is, they had lived old and died and were born into life again as new born babies several hundreds of times now with different bodies immediately they had died in the several times they died, but not necessarily did they born in the same Christian family that they previously died.

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1 Corinthians 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.


Then the remaining less than 5% were converted into Christianity from other religions and they will be born immediately after they die also.

But for Non Christians, they are only procreated and they have been dying off forever after living once.
Except, on the condition that they accept Jesus Christ.

Science did not teach that homosapiens pre-exist earth, is there anything like that?

See rubbish!

Gabrielshow24:
Quoting verse off point, I will address your issues in a jiffy. Let me quickly attend to some ridiculous claim in another thread🤦🏾‍♂️. I will be right back.

We will have full discourse on each verse and how you miraculously drew reincarnation from them👀

You mean you have the time to engage this lunasi?

Gabrielshow24:
Gen 2, is the physical exemplification—They were already made in Gen1.

Exactly how everything whether a phone, car, submarine are all first created with "I wish..."

Dtruthspeaker:
You mean you have the time to engage this lunasi?

Someone has to correct him of his wrong doctrines 🤕—Who knows how many he has convinced to their damnation 🤷? It's best we plug such leak before it destroys the whole house👌.

Dtruthspeaker:
Exactly how everything whether a phone, car, submarine are all first created with "I wish..."

Not in that sense🤔, see it more of how everything is being rolled out from a factory. Gen1, is the assembly and storage of all factory products. Gen2 is the distribution and marketing of the said products.

So using Jesus' parable,although out of context, Gen 1 will be when the seed were created and Gen 2 when they were planted Mat13:24-29.

tctrills:
I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?
Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

The term human means a being with flesh and blood. Which can never exist outside this physical world.

So, human only exists on earth the very moment is being given birth to.

Here is the gist, since human is only limited to the physical world, the Creator just doesn't want to leave him alone because this creature is modelled after the image of His Creator. So, the Creator put in him something unique in other to interact with him - His Spirit.

"Then the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground. He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nostrils, and the man became a living person." Gen 2:7

"But there is a spirit which is in man; and the breath of the Almighty giveth them understanding." Job 32:8

To your question, does human exist before birth? No! Human is just flesh and blood that can only exist in the physical world.

Gabrielshow24:
Not in that sense🤔, see it more of how everything is being rolled out from a factory. Gen1, is the assembly and storage of all factory products. Gen2 is the distribution and marketing of the said products.

So using Jesus' parable,although out of context, Gen 1 will be when the seed were created and Gen 2 when they were planted Mat13:24-29.

See, you used the word "rolled out". Why?
Because, the point of creating a thing is to showcase it. No one creates a thing and then puts it in storage.

And this is what proves that Gen1 is the "I wish" and the precreation plan and discussion hence the word "Let us..."

It is not the day that you said let us build a plane or a phone that you started doing so. Every one knows that that in order to build a new thing that has never been done before you need to first consult with the experts who have a role to play in the construction of this "I wish.."

And also the materials needed to create it needs to be planned and sought.

It is after all these kinks and hurdles have been worked out that construction aka creation will start taking place.

Which is why you see the construction taking place in Gen 2

Gabrielshow24:
Someone has to correct him of his wrong doctrines 🤕—Who knows how many he has convinced to their damnation 🤷? It's best we plug such leak before it destroys the whole house👌.

True. But I think a lot of people real eyes that he is the bonks

Gabrielshow24:
Quoting verse off point,

good!
It's your opinion though.

According your opinion, how do you quote and explain 1 Corinthians 15:35 to the end of the chapter, since you are here to correct me?

Gabrielshow24:
Yes, when God made man, male and female. He made us all! Genesis 1:27

Also, from God's conversation with Job, the Lord has storehouses for things so it's imperative to also deduce that he has a storehouse for men. "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail?" Job38:22

It might not be accurate to use "storehouse" but a temporary dwelling place for human spirits will be in order.

How can a 21st century CE human being with all the knowledge of weather systems available to us claim that there is a storhouse for snow and hail? What kind of regressive thinking is this?

LordReed:
How can a 21st century CE human being with all the knowledge of weather systems available to us claim that there is a storhouse for snow and hail? What kind of regressive thinking is this?

🧐 what's your own? Na my God talk am🙃. Go dwell on something else.

tctrills:
I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?
Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

It might. Because there were questions directed at Jesus if he was Elijah.

tctrills:
I am asking from a Christian perspective. Before our birth and our lives as humans, did we preexist? What does the bible say about this?
Many religions believe that man is an ancient being that preexists earth life does Christianity agree?

No human life did not prexist his mortal life. When God created Adam he made all the component of human life in him, which was to be subsequently activated and formed into humans later on.
So human life begins when the seed of the man and of the woman unite together from then the formation process begins.

Steep:
No human life did not prexist his mortal life. When God created Adam he made all the component of human life in him, which was to be subsequently activated and formed into humans later on.
So human life begins when the seed of the man and of the woman unite together from then the formation process begins.

If they never existed before the creation can the same God return them to their former state of oblivion when they proved worthless or he must keep them alive somewhere tormenting them for not proving worthy of the purpose for which they were created? John 3:16

DeepSight:
It might. Because there were questions directed at Jesus if he was Elijah.

It's written in the scriptures:

“Look! I am sending to you E·liʹjah the prophet before the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he will turn the hearts of fathers back toward sons, and the hearts of sons back toward fathers, so that I may not come and strike the earth, devoting it to destruction.” Malachi 4:5-6

The Jews thought Jesus could be the foretold Elijah since he himself said:

"Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword.  For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.  Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36

But he later told them that John the baptist has fulfilled that prophecy! Matthew 11:14

However this does not supports the theory of evolution because John himself told his listeners:

And they asked (John): “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “No!” John 1:21

Which means he is a different person totally but having the attributes of Elijah!

Gabrielshow24:
🧐 what's your own? Na my God talk am🙃. Go dwell on something else.

So your god doesn't know how snow and hail are made? LoLz. Exactly the way an Iron age writer wouldn't know. But for a 21st century person to continue to hold on to Iron age ignorance is a sight to behold.