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donproject2:
I never see a period in time when world experiences true peace.

This shall be the kind of peace you will live to enjoy throughout your life. Mark this from today!

deeway200:
Israel needs to chill now. The death toll is becoming alarming. No country wants genocide

that's a country really to sacrifice for pay back to anyone who mess with their security or citizens. USA did same to Iraq and Afghanistan

sparko1:
And yet you can't tell the difference, those killed/kidnapped by hamas was unprovoked, you want to compare with war, even the isreali gave advance notice and time for evacuation.

Someone evicted from his home, village burn and settlement of settlers built on it, Palestinians held in Israeli prisons without trials or legal reps, IDF 24 hours raid of homes, schools and work places. Targeted assassination to decimate their population, no access to the sea, this people can even fish in their waters or farm the lands since 1948 and you said unprovoked?

That's a lot of provocation to me. You probably can't handle 10% of what these people are coping with for 80 years hoping one day God will end their oppression and make their oppressors powerless.

DeepSight:
Lol. You guys can be so simplistic. First, this has little to do with those hostages. Secondly, the biggest mistake Hamas can ever make will be to disarm. It's a non starter. No one leaves themselves that vulnerable.

Israel will totally collect Gaza and watch the real blood bath.

DeepSight:
Lol. You guys can be so simplistic. First, this has little to do with those hostages. Secondly, the biggest mistake Hamas can ever make will be to disarm. It's a non starter. No one leaves themselves that vulnerable.

Israel is living in peace with Egypt and Jordan, who do not raise militants to fight them. They share a peace accord!
Before this war, Palestinians were employed in their hundreds of thousands working/living in Israel.
If you bring peace, Israel will bring peace. If you bring war, you get it ten times from Israel!

mastermaestro:
I told them and their supporters already. But they think Israel is bluffing.

I have consistently said that you all can kiss Gaza goodbye. As Trump is leaving, another republican who will embolden Israel further will take over.

Democrats or Republicans will always do Israel bidding. They main target is Iran and if it were Democrats Khomeini is dead

obedience4:
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c754kknw2g2o

Gaza City Will Be Razed If Hamas Does Not Agree Our Terms, Israel Minister Says

What is so difficult in Hamas releasing this hostages so this war can come to an end I'm surprised how some people are so draft that they keep bleming Israel... instead of calling on Hamas to release the hostages .... and end the war

Gaza city is gone.

Even if they release the hostages today.

mikeapollo:
Okay, fine.
People can go and collect the land from whom God says ''I have given the land to......'', and who says ''God has given the land unto me'' ...... and let's see their argument and reality.

I repeat for emphasis: "God gave it to me" is not an argument on land matters. Not now, not before, not ever and not anywhere. Anyone frankly can say the same thing.

You know quite well that the Jews were driven from the land by the Romans in 70AD and scattered across Europe. So you prefer they stay away so they can lose their land and never come back to the land of their great ancestors! Interesting1

That is not my position. My position is that there must be equity among the peoples dwelling there. Posession of land is determined by length and originality of stay. Arabs have been there for over a thousand years. No one can argue that they are alien to the land. Jews have already taken the majority of the land. Do you have any idea how tiny Gaza is? Let me give you a practical example. It is less than four times the third mainland bridge in length. And yet it is barricaded and controlled by Israel as though the people there are dogs in a cage.

How about West Bank? The Istaeli's have populated it with ever increasing illegal settlements (illegal as declared by the UN - Mind you, Israel is a creation of the UN). Every attempt at Platestinian Statehood is blocked by Israel and the US.

Live and let live. You are the bigger power. You have the biggest power in the world behind you. These people have nothing. Share equitably. That is my position. But as long as you wish to imprison them, occupy them, snatch the little land they have left, you will never find peace.

Idaytesj29:
Someone evicted from his home, village burn and settlement of settlers built on it, Palestinians held in Israeli prisons without trials or legal reps, IDF 24 hours raid of homes, schools and work places. Targeted assassination to decimate their population, no access to the sea, this people can even fish in their waters or farm the lands since 1948 and you said unprovoked?

That's a lot of provocation to me. You probably can't handle 10% of what these people are coping with for 80 years hoping one day God will end their oppression and make their oppressors powerless.

They enjoyed the spoils of the land of the Jews, and the attention and favours that places like Jerusalem, Bethlehem, etc attracted for the so many years that the Jews were driven away by the Romans and went to into exile.
The Jews are now back, The Arab settlers should just leave and go. Claiming to be owners or part-owners of the land is the cause of the problem.

Almighty God is the most powerful and merciful, humans can do whatever they like.

autoez:
Hamas have bitten more than they can chew. It's time for them to make amends else, God's own nation will do more damage.

Isreal is not God’s own nation at all! It’s a false claim that they orchestrated cunningly to colonise people! They are the same people who’ve been going around the world to enslave, oppress and colonise indigenous nations! Same race who sold your great grandparents in slavery, same race who apartheid South Africa that took blood and toil to get rid of, it’s the same fight and resistance that the Palestinians have been going through for nearly a century now! Maybe when you grow a little older you’ll find out the truth, because at the moment you’re still a child to understand anything!

PepeXKermit:
You need to know how sophisticated Israel is when it cones to intelligence gathering. AMERICA NO REACH THEM FOR THAT LEVEL. if Israel tell you that a place where they have full control over, they have not been able to locate their hostages, you can believe any foolery in the world. Israel wey use unmanned AI machine gun kill a top nuclear scientist for Iran some years back, and they cannot get their hostages, from a 25mile by 5mile enclave that has been surrounded for months, must be a big joke!

they recently rescued three hostages from the house or a journalist

mikeapollo:
The Jews are now back, The Arab settlers should just leave and go. Claiming to be owners or part-owners of the land is the cause of the problem.

This is very very very wrong thinking. They are indeed owners and part owners. Another thing you assume is that the Jews of today are the same as the Israelites of old. They are not. They are a specie of European, for the most part.

I repeat: how long have white people been in America? Dont you think the Native Americans should also declare: we are back and drive them away? And yet, Arabs have been in that land since the Crusades!

Let me ask you. Hypothetcally, if a group of black Americans were to arrive in your village and tell you their ancestors owned it 400 years ago, what would you think? Okay, lets say they seize it by force, what would you think? Okay lets say you are trying to be equitable with them and they say, no, leave and go away. Go where?

When you say so insensitively - they should just go - go where? How do you say to people that have lived somewhere for one thousand years - just go? I mean go where?

Kukutente23:
You mean you support holding people hostage and arming of terrorists

You probably dont know that Netanyahu funded and armed Hamas for a while.

PlutoChief:
Hmmmmm!

This is worse that what Hitler did yet no one is talking about it, anyways, crime and impunity dey sweet if e never reach your side.

It also sweet you when Hamas sluagther 1200 Israeli within hours, or is Hamas not also worst than Hitler

DeepSight:
These people are not tired of being the centre of global hatred? Let them continue buying violence for their descendants.

Who your global hatred help ? See what Russia is doing to Ukraine and yet some countries joined to form bricks with Putin, including your country, besides china , Iran and North Korea is supplying Putin weapons and soldiers to continue destroying Ukraine
So you see you are on your own with your whatever hatred
Funny non of you is antagonizing those countries supporting Russia madness

Arrowhead71:
Who your global hatred help ? See what Russia is doing to Ukraine and yet some countries joined to form bricks with Putin, including your country, besides china , Iran and North Korea is supplying Putin weapons and soldiers to continue destroying Ukraine
So you see you are on your own with your whatever hatred
Funny non of you is antagonizing those countries supporting Russia madness

There are reasons for that. Many in the world right resent Western Hegemony.

DeepSight:
You probably dont know that Netanyahu funded and armed Hamas for a while.

When will you guys ever tell Hamas to take responsibility for their terrorism behaviour
You guys are always making excuses for them!

PepeXKermit:
So 1200 lives is equal to 60k palestinian lives abi? This injustice you people are cheering on will reach your doorstep one day.. besides, go and read about the hannibal directive where those 1200 numbers only 500-600 of them were actually killed by hamas, the rest was the IDF.

Can you listen to yourself, only 600 Israelis killed by Hamas as against 60k, so it is number that pained you and not one soul killed in a dancing concert, injustice indeed

DeepSight:
If you want to go that far back, who did the Jews seize those lands from. Canaanites.

Now listen, Arabs have lived side by side with Jews and Christians in that land for over one thousand years.

Jews were scattered by the Romans in 70 AD and lived mostly in diaspora in Europe.

You don't come back 2000 years later and claim you own it all. Land never works that way. Americans have not had America for up to 300 years. These people have lived in that land for up a thousand years.

So at best there should be equitable division. The apartheid system of containment in which the Jews own everything and enslave the Palestinians is injustice and will always generate rightful resistance.

I like your fairness in this war between Israel and Palestine, but remember Palestinians rejected two party states twice, correct me if I’m wrong.

But they want the whole of the lands and their (Hamas) goal is to destroy Israel.

For peace to reign, release the hostages, accept two party states. Let them start from there.

There is peace in South Africa, because the Black South Africans and White South Africans chose peace. And they live in same country.

HydraFeeds:
These are people that call Iran a genocidal regime.

This is the results of rabidity...think and act like human being una no gree... animal behaviour begets animal results.

Kukutente23:
When will you guys ever tell Hamas to take responsibility for their terrorism behaviour
You guys are always making excuses for them!

Let me start slowly with you on this one. Knowing that this matter borders on religious faith for you though, I don't expect much.

Lets start here:

Are you aware that the UK (via Magareth Thatcher) labelled Nelson Mandela a Terrorist. Are you aware that the USA kept Mandela on its terrorist watchlist till 2008?

Here is the first question: Do you agree that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist?

DeepSight:
I repeat for emphasis: "God gave it to me" is not an argument on land matters. Not now, not before, not ever and not anywhere. Anyone frankly can say the same thing.



That is not my position. My position is that there must be equity among the peoples dwelling there. Possession of land is determined by length and originality of stay. Arabs have been there for over a thousand years. No one can argue that they are alien to the land. Jews have already taken the majority of the land. Do you have any idea how tiny Gaza is? Let me give you a practical example. It is less than four times the third mainland bridge in length. And yet it is barricaded and controlled by Israel as though the people there are dogs in a cage.

How about West Bank? The Istaeli's have populated it with ever increasing illegal settlements (illegal as declared by the UN - Mind you, Israel is a creation of the UN[/b]). Every attempt at Platestinian Statehood is blocked by Israel and the US.

Live and let live. You are the bigger power. You have the biggest power in the world behind you. These people have nothing. Share equitably. That is my position. But as long as you wish to imprison them, occupy them, snatch the little land they have left, you will never find peace.

This is where you all made a terrible mistake:
1. The [b]LAND and PEOPLE of Israel, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria had all been in existence before UN was formed. The other countries had a declaration of ''Statehood'' before Israel. But the Land of Israel had always been there, with the cities intact e.g. Jerusalem. If the other countries (from the time in the Bible and Quran) can become States without a problem, then why should Israel's statehood be different?
2. When the State of Israel was formed, Israel decided to offer full citizenship to all the Arabs who accept to recognize Israel and live peacefully in the country. Those who accepted are today living as Arab-Israelis and they enjoy the full rights and privileges of all other Israelis. They are about 3 million in population today. Nobody attacks or harass them.
3. Some Arabs rejected the idea, and claim that the land belongs to them and Israel must be wiped off. They claim that the whole land belongs to them. They include these so called ''Palestinians'' who chant ''from the river to the sea, Palestine must be free''.
4. If you go by the length and originality of stay, the Jews have lived in the land longer than the Arabs, and they have superior claim to originality. The history of the land is contained in both the Quran and Bible! Nobody can resolve the crisis meaningfully without reference to the 2 books but people are shying away from facing the truth.
5. What is ''West Bank''? It is a term that was coined recently in 1950s to describe the ''west bank area by the River Jordan''. It is never the original name of the area. The names of the towns in the area are Judea and Samaria, Hebron, Jericho, Beersheba, Bethlehem, etc. These are all Jewish names, which show that they belong to Israel. But there is a global propaganda to avoid using the original Jewish names, but call the place ''West Bank''. You ask yourself: why are they using English name for a place where the local language is not English? Why are they not using the local Jewish names of the towns/cities? This should tell you it is deliberate act to take away the land from the Jews by distorting history and erasing everything that link the Jews to the land.
6. The so called ''West Bank'' is the heart land of Israel where most of the Biblical monuments and tombs of the prophets and kings e.g. Sarah, Rebecca, Jacob, Joseph, etc are located. How can any reasonable, honest human being claim that these places belong to Arabs or Palestinians?
7. How would you expect Israel to support the creation of a state whose people have vowed to wipe off Israel ''from the river to the sea''? There were 2 attempts at creating a Palestinian state in the past and both were rejected by the Palestinians, because they don't see Israel as legitimate to co-exit with, but they want Israel to leave their land, ''from the river to the sea''! But right now, with Hamas, there is no way Israel would even allow a Palestinian state to be created near them.
8. Even the so called ''West Bank'' land was captured from Jordan in the 1967 war, so it is even Jordan that should be dragging issues with Israel, but Jordan is not. So why didn't the Palestinians ask for a separate State from Jordan when Jordan was controlling the land?

Toneyo:
I like your fairness in this war between Israel and Palestine, but remember Palestinians rejected two party states twice, correct me if I’m wrong.

But they want the whole of the lands and their (Hamas) goal is to destroy Israel.

For peace to reign, release the hostages, accept two party states. Let them start from there.

There is peace in South Africa, because the Black South Africans and White South Africans chose peace. And they live in same country.

Problem is, Israel will never accept a one state solution because they are ethnic supremacists, racists and tribalists who want a strictly Jewish State.

mikeapollo:
This is where you all made a terrible mistake:
1. The LAND and PEOPLE of Israel, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria had all been in existence before UN was formed. The other countries had a declaration of ''Statehood'' before Israel. But the Land of Israel had always been there, with the cities intact e.g. Jerusalem. If the other countries (from the time in the Bible and Quran) can become States without a problem, then why should Israel's statehood be different?
2. When the State of Israel was formed, Israel decided to offer full citizenship to all the Arabs who accept to recognize Israel and live peacefully in country. Those who accepted are today living as Arab-Israelis and they enjoy the full rights and privileges of all other Israelis. They are about 3 million in population today. Nobody attacks or harass them.
3. Some Arabs rejected the idea, and claim that the land belongs to them and Israel must be wiped off. They claim that the whole land belongs to them. They include these so called ''Palestinians'' who chant ''from the river to the sea, Palestine must be free''.
4. If you go by the length and originality of stay, the Jews have lived in the land longer than the Arabs, and they have superior claim to originality. The history of the land is contained in both the Quran and Bible! Nobody can resolve the crisis meaningfully without reference to the 2 books but people are shying away from facing the truth.
5. What is ''West Bank''? It is a term tat was coined recently in 1950s to describe the ''west bank area by the River Jordan''. It is never the original name of the area. The names of the towns in the area are Judea and Samaria, Hebron, Jericho, Beersheba, Bethlehem, etc. These are all Jewish names, which show that they belong to Israel. But there is a global propaganda to avoid using the original Jewish names, but call the place ''West Bank''. You ask yourself: why are they using English name for a place where the local language is not English? Why are they not using the local Jewish names of the towns/cities? This should tell you it is deliberate act to take away the land from the Jews by distorting history and erasing everything that link the Jews to the land.
6. The so called ''West Bank'' is the heart land of Israel where most of the Biblical monuments and tombs of the prophets and kings e.g. Sarah, Rebecca, Jacob, Joseph, etc are located. How can any reasonable, honest human being claim that these places belong to Arabs or Palestinians?
7. How would you expect Israel to support the creation of a state whose people have vowed to wipe off Israel ''from the river to the sea''? There were 2 attempts at creating a Palestinian state in the past and both were rejected by the Palestinians, because they don't see Israel as legitimate to co-exit with, but they want Israel to leave their land, ''from the river to the sea''! But right now, with Hamas, there is no way Israel would even allow a Palestinian state to be created near them.

I cant stress myself to respond point by point if your conclusion remains that the Palestinians should "leave and go away." I repeat: Go where?

DeepSight:
I cant stress myself to respond point by point if your conclusion remains that the Palestinians should "leave and go away." I repeat: Go where?

They should do what the other Arab-Israelis did, by accepting to live in peace in Israel and enjoy the rights and privileges as Israelis citizens.
Even the so called ''West Bank'' land was captured from Jordan in the 1967 war, so it is even Jordan that should be dragging issues with Israel, but Jordan is not. So why didn't the Palestinians ask for a separate State from Jordan when Jordan was controlling the land?

mikeapollo:
They should do what the other Arab-Israelis did, by accepting to live in peace in Israel and enjoy the rights and privileges as Israelis citizens.

Unfortunately Israel will never accept the one state solution. This is because they are ethnic supremacists who implement an apartheid system.

BlackfireX:
Allah akbar

Allah akbar

Allah akbar

Allah akbar

Na exactly this evil spirits powered chant put Palestinians for this catastrophe.

godwinngbede:
Lol they were sharing sweet and biscuits on oct 7, they never knew this day will come

With zobo or kwunu?

dederocs:
This is the results of rabidity...think and act like human being una no gree... animal behaviour begets animal results.

You're right ,it's the animal behaviour of Israel before Oct 7th that caused another animal behaviour of Oct 7th .

And if other countries also want to totally destroy Israel in an animalistic manner ,it's because of the Israel ore existing animal behaviour.

DeepSight:
I am sorry you can't discuss an event outside it's context.

You should ask if an occupied people have the right to fight back against their occupier.

If a foreign nation seizes your territory and holds you hostage and occupies your land, don't you have the right to fight back. And when you do, should everyone then say you started the fight?

Hv u tried to research on why its so ?? In 2005 after a peace deal was signed.... Israel had to leave Gaza .... they even exhumed dead relatives from the ground to re-bury them ...Israel left gaza totally for the Palestinians....and what did hamas do ?? They started throwing bombs into Israel , and were crossing the boarder for terrorism activities....coming into insurance to kill israelis...the government of Israel had to make a decision, their military had to take control of part of Gaza to stop Hamas from their constant terrorism act in Israel...Palestinians, being sponsored by Iran don't want Israel in the middle-east .... they dont want Israel to exist in the middle East...where that one go fit happen?? ... media is trying to turn the narrative, to make it seem like Israel is the problem