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mikeapollo:
Answer the question and don't bring Africa into it. There is no African country fighting Israel over the land in Jerusalem, Hebron, Jericho, Beersheba, Bethlehem, etc.
The Jews are a tribe and their traditional religion is Judaism, before Christianity came

So... if i you become a Jew today, you have rights to all the cities you listed above?

HydraFeeds:
You're right ,it's the animal behaviour of Israel before Oct 7th that caused another animal behaviour of Oct 7th .

And if other countries also want to totally destroy Israel in an animalistic manner ,it's because of the Israel ore existing animal behaviour.

Animal behaviour and rabidity of Hamas that acts without thinking of consequences... delusional group.

Dogalmighty17:
Israel is proudly carrying on with genocide. Let them continue. At least the world will rest from their endless cries of victimhood. They have become modern day Nazis.

Tell your hamas to release the hostages they kidnapped. As long as hamas are with the hostages, IDF are going to keep searching for their people through any possible means.

DeepSight:
Unfortunately Israel will never accept the one state solution. This is because they are ethnic supremacists who implement an apartheid system.

Israel allowed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to work and live in Israel, provided they would be peaceful. They were stopped due to the series of suicide bombings and attacks on Israelis.
The water, electricity in all the so called West Bank and Gaza is still supplied by Israel.

Harnny:
So... if i you become a Jew today, you have rights to all the cities you listed above?

Who own those places before? Na Arab migrants or the Jews? Tell your fellow Arab migrants to evacuate Jewish territories. If Arab nations like those migrants, they should relocate them to Saudi Arabia or ask them to return to their country of origin.

Harnny:
So... if i you become a Jew today, you have rights to all the cities you listed above?

You can become a Jew first, and let's see.
You think people become Jew just by word of mouth?

Why don't you ask the Arabs claiming those places if the places originally belong to them or you think there are no more Biblical Jews in Israel?

mikeapollo:
Israel allowed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to work and live in Israel, provided they would be peaceful. They were stopped due to the series of suicide bombings and attacks on Israelis.
The water, electricity in all the so called West Bank and Gaza is still supplied by Israel.

You dont see the problem with the bold.
Anyway I dont think this conversation is going anywhere.

mikeapollo:
Did anybody attack Germany and slaughtered 20,000 Germans before Hitler started the war?
You people forgot that 1,200 innocent Israelis were murdered and hundreds of people taken as hostages. You cannot see that and demand that Hamas release the hostages. But you only see Israel's reaction.

They thought that the Israeli government is like the Nigerian government.

DeepSight:
You dont see the problem with the bold.
Anyway I don't think this conversation is going anywhere.

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They don't have the resources or capacity to provide those things and Israel has been doing that for decades and would not poison them.

mikeapollo:
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They don't have the resources or capacity to provide those things and Israel has been doing that for decades and would not poison them.

Oh so its kindness and charity.
And there is no special reason they cant do it themselves.

This discussion has failed and is worthless.

PepeXKermit:
So 1200 lives is equal to 60k palestinian lives abi? This injustice you people are cheering on will reach your doorstep one day.. besides, go and read about the hannibal directive where those 1200 numbers only 500-600 of them were actually killed by hamas, the rest was the IDF.

If not for your hatred for Christians and CHRIST JESUS, Palestinians would have paid heed to the below:

Luke 14:31-32 GNT
[31] If a king goes out with ten thousand men to fight another king who comes against him with twenty thousand men, he will sit down first and decide if he is strong enough to face that other king. [32] If he isn't, he will send messengers to meet the other king to ask for terms of peace while he is still a long way off.

mikeapollo:
They enjoyed the spoils of the land of the Jews, and the attention and favours that places like Jerusalem, Bethlehem, etc attracted for the so many years that the Jews were driven away by the Romans and went to into exile.
The Jews are now back, The Arab settlers should just leave and go. Claiming to be owners or part-owners of the land is the cause of the problem.

They are all semites, the land belongs to them.

And a key question here, ARE THE PALESTINIANS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR EXILE?

ARE THE PALESTINIANS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR HOLOCAUST?

If not and you know they are not, why can't they live together without segregation? Why can't they live side by side as different states? Why must Israel exterminate them to create their own state.

We are against this now cos it was American blacks before, later it was black vs whites in South Africa now its Palestinians and the Jews. It could be you MikeApollo next, that's why we are speaking against his evil. It's not religious. Because America support Israel doesn't mean u should. Or anything they support is correct. They designated Mandela a terrorist, imagine that?

You are free to hold your opinion, cos regardless of it, the oppressed always get freed in the end. But that few months or years from now, will you be able to look at your comments today and be proud and be able to show your children that you supported genocide or ethnic cleansing.

DeepSight:
I am sorry you can't discuss an event outside it's context.

You should ask if an occupied people have the right to fight back against their occupier.

If a foreign nation seizes your territory and holds you hostage and occupies your land, don't you have the right to fight back. And when you do, should everyone then say you started the fight?

Which seize?

Do you know the history of that land?

Palestinians are never the owners of that land
Israel was there before them. Face the truth at least for once.

Israel.is never occupying another man's land. The land belongs to the Jews, period.

Palestinians will be driven out from the Israelis land. Watch and see.

DeepSight:
I am not even going back thousands of years. The simple point is denying a people their sovereignty and dignity. If you contain and occupy a people, they have a right to fight back. It's similar to the situation in apartheid South Africa and that's why SA stood up so much for Palestine.

Nelson Mandela while alive stood up for Palestine.

I hope you know these same Western Countries called Mandela a terrorist.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Your Mabdela and south African stood for Palestinians but killing their fellow Africans , xenophobia, and you think that they are sincere

DeepSight:
This is very very very wrong thinking. They are indeed owners and part owners. Another thing you assume is that the Jews of today are the same as the Israelites of old. They are not. They are a specie of European, for the most part.

I repeat: how long have white people been in America? Dont you think the Native Americans should also declare: we are back and drive them away? And yet, Arabs have been in that land since the Crusades!

Let me ask you. Hypothetcally, if a group of black Americans were to arrive in your village and tell you their ancestors owned it 400 years ago, what would you think? Okay, lets say they seize it by force, what would you think? Okay lets say you are trying to be equitable with them and they say, no, leave and go away. Go where?

When you say so insensitively - they should just go - go where? How do you say to people that have lived somewhere for one thousand years - just go? I mean go where?

You only single out the Israelis and say that they are no longer the Israelites of old. So let me ask you:
The neighbors of Israel in the Bible/Quran are Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria.
1. Are the Egyptians and Egypt today the same as in the Bible/Quran? Yes. Have you taken their land and shared it with other people? No
2. Are the Jordanians and Jordan today the same as in the Bible/Quran? Yes. Have you taken their land and shared it with other people? No
3. Are the Lebanese and Lebanon today the same as in the Bible/Quran? Yes. Have you taken their land and shared it with other people? No
4. Are the Syrians and Syria today the same as in the Bible/Quran? Yes. Have you taken their land and shared and it with other people? No

So why say now that Israel of today is different from Israel in the Bible? So why do you people want to single out Israel and twist the story when it concerns their land? It can only be because of envy, jealousy and covetousness over their priceless Biblical heritage!

As for my family land, anybody from anywhere is welcome to claim my family land in my village if they have superior, documented facts and evidence.

dederocs:
Animal behaviour and rabidity of Hamas that acts without thinking of consequences... delusional group.

Before Oct 7th ,there are thousands of Palestinians being held hostage/prisoner in Israel without negotiation or court hearing for their release ,what type of behaviour is that ?

Before Oct 7th,Israel has been killing children and women ,what type of behaviour is that ?

When Israel in the Bible destroyed people because they served a different God ,what type of behaviour is that ?

When Israel destroyed Jericho unprovoked,what of behaviour is that ?

Should Nigeria government begin to kill all Igbos because IPOB attacked Nigeria interests? Or kill or Fulanis because of Fulani herdsmen or all Kanuris because of Boko Haram?

Harnny:
no be Africa the biblical jew from come? Tell me, are Jews of a tribe or of a religion?

Hennen, you bring another thing into the kasala on ground, your fashion of Jews are African, funny
Some of you said jesus christ is Palestinian
Some even said jesus is Arabia , confusion in the camp of Israel enemies

mikeapollo:
Okay, fine.
People can go and collect the land from whom God says ''I have given the land to......'', and who says ''God has given the land unto me'' ...... and let's see their argument and reality.

You know quite well that the Jews were driven from the land by the Romans in 70AD and scattered across Europe. So you prefer they stay away so they can lose their land and never come back to the land of their great ancestors! Interesting1

Don't mind those people. They hate the truth. The know that jews own the land, but their hatred for the Jews makes them deny the truth.

Idaytesj29:
Someone evicted from his home, village burn and settlement of settlers built on it, Palestinians held in Israeli prisons without trials or legal reps, IDF 24 hours raid of homes, schools and work places. Targeted assassination to decimate their population, no access to the sea, this people can even fish in their waters or farm the lands since 1948 and you said unprovoked?

That's a lot of provocation to me. You probably can't handle 10% of what these people are coping with for 80 years hoping one day God will end their oppression and make their oppressors powerless.

Between Palestinians and Jew, who were the first on the land?

Do you know that Romans expelled Jews from that land on 70AD?

Do you know that even your qur'an never ever mentioned Palestinians?

PepeXKermit:
Releasing the hostages is not Israels problem. Infact they dont even care about it. They are asking for hostage release and hamas dropping their weapons. This will not haplen because essentially they are asking them to not just surrender bit tender themselves to be taken in. You think you can use gun to kill ideology? It will always be like this for years and yesrs to come until the root causes of what hamas came up in the first place is addressed.

Just tell your Hamas to come out and fight for their ideology and stop shouting genocide up and down

DeepSight:
Oh so its kindness and charity.
And there is no special reason they cant do it themselves.

This discussion has failed and is worthless.

Okay, let them go and drive away the Israelis from the water and land and do it themselves. I hope that is what you want or want to hear.
Even some parts of America receive light/water supply from Canada. Nigeria also supplies electricity to Niger Republic.

DeepSight:
If you want to go that far back, who did the Jews seize those lands from. Canaanites.

Now listen, Arabs have lived side by side with Jews and Christians in that land for over one thousand years.

Jews were scattered by the Romans in 70 AD and lived mostly in diaspora in Europe.

You don't come back 2000 years later and claim you own it all. Land never works that way. Americans have not had America for up to 300 years. These people have lived in that land for up a thousand years.

So at best there should be equitable division. The apartheid system of containment in which the Jews own everything and enslave the Palestinians is injustice and will always generate rightful resistance.

God has different rules concerning the heritage he gave to Abraham seed, isaac, no Arab will be allowed in Israeli heritage, otherwise its war till eternity

DeepSight:
This is very very very wrong thinking. They are indeed owners and part owners. Another thing you assume is that the Jews of today are the same as the Israelites of old. They are not. They are a specie of European, for the most part.

I repeat: how long have white people been in America? Dont you think the Native Americans should also declare: we are back and drive them away? And yet, Arabs have been in that land since the Crusades!

Let me ask you. Hypothetcally, if a group of black Americans were to arrive in your village and tell you their ancestors owned it 400 years ago, what would you think? Okay, lets say they seize it by force, what would you think? Okay lets say you are trying to be equitable with them and they say, no, leave and go away. Go where?

When you say so insensitively - they should just go - go where? How do you say to people that have lived somewhere for one thousand years - just go? I mean go where?

When one is foolish enough to take over the property of a man whose is still alive amd has interest in his property, what do you expect?

Do you just dabbled into a property without questions about the owners?

fmlala:
God will intereven in this unncessary killings around the world

AMEN 🙏

Idaytesj29:
They are all semites, the land belongs to them.

And a key question here, ARE THE PALESTINIANS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR EXILE?

ARE THE PALESTINIANS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR HOLOCAUST?

If not and you know they are not, why can't they live together without segregation? Why can't they live side by side as different states? Why must Israel exterminate them to create their own state.

We are against this now cos it was American blacks before, later it was black vs whites in South Africa now its Palestinians and the Jews. It could be you MikeApollo next, that's why we are speaking against his evil. It's not religious. Because America support Israel doesn't mean u should. Or anything they support is correct. They designated Mandela a terrorist, imagine that?

You are free to hold your opinion, cos regardless of it, the oppressed always get freed in the end. But that few months or years from now, will you be able to look at your comments today and be proud and be able to show your children that you supported genocide or ethnic cleansing.

Why must Israeli allow its land to be divided into separate States to please some people who say Israel must be wiped off the surface of the earth?
If you have a house, and you offer someone a room to stay but he/she rejects it and demands that the whole house must be broken and divided into 2 (against your wish), or you are driven out, would you agree?
How do you expect Israel to accept that Jerusalem would be divided into 2, and one part taken away from them?
How do you expect that the monuments, tombs and graves of the prophets and kings of Israel located in Bethlehem, Beersheba, Hebron, Judean and Samaria, Jerusalem etc. would be taken away from Israel and placed under the control and authority of Palestinians, Arabs?

Elusive001:
Between Palestinians and Jew, who were the first on the land?

Do you know that Romans expelled Jews from that land on 70AD?

Do you know that even your qur'an never ever mentioned Palestinians?

That argument is not just. The place you called your town, who are the first to be there?

That means the native Indians have the right to take up arms against the whites who murder them to create the USA. Or the Mexicans have the rights to go to war against the USA over states like California?

Then the Israelis should face the Romans. If you are expelled from a land for 100s of years, you lost it. It's gone.

And our of humanity, you are welcome back to form a single state and live in peace, you then take up arms to spill bloods all over the earth. It only justify the reason why Jews are expelled in all countries in the past.

Whose Koran? Who is talking about religion here. We are talking about human life, you talking about whether kuran mention Palestinians or not, what my concern with that. They are human beings with emotions, blood flowing in their veins like you.

Unless, you can accept the treatment of the Palestinians and pray it happens to you, I see no reason you should be talking like this

mikeapollo:
Why must Israeli allow its land to be divided into separate States to please some people who say Israel must be wiped off the surface of the earth?
If you have a house, and you offer someone a room to stay but he/she rejects it and demands that the whole house must be broken and divided into 2 (against your wish), or you are driven out, would you agree?
How do you expect Israel to accept that Jerusalem would be divided into 2, and one part taken away from them?
How do you expect that the monuments, tombs and graves of the prophets and kings of Israel located in Bethlehem, Beersheba, Hebron, Judean and Samaria, Jerusalem etc. would be taken away from Israel and placed under the control and authority of Palestinians, Arabs?

It's not Israel's land. QED
If its your land, you won't be on exile. You won't need a Balfour declaration and a both to go there. You won't carry PALESTINIANS passport and spend Palestine currency before violent creation of Israel in 1948.

This is just a case of international land grabbing

DeepSight:
I am not even going back thousands of years. The simple point is denying a people their sovereignty and dignity. If you contain and occupy a people, they have a right to fight back. It's similar to the situation in apartheid South Africa and that's why SA stood up so much for Palestine.

Nelson Mandela while alive stood up for Palestine.

I hope you know these same Western Countries called Mandela a terrorist.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

The South Africa issue is complex.
They have a history but it is different from Israel/Gaza. Israel is the owner of the land.
But SA govt. does not like Israel because they believe Israel supported the whites during the apartheid regime.
But the same South Africans are killing their fellow Africans in xenophobic attacks and nobody has been arrested and prosecuted. What do you say about that?

caleboxylic:
Who own those places before? Na Arab migrants or the Jews? Tell your fellow Arab migrants to evacuate Jewish territories. If Arab nations like those migrants, they should relocate them to Saudi Arabia or ask them to return to their country of origin.

either as Arab, or as a Muslim does not give anyone right to claim Saudu Arabia. There are locals there. Why is this not applicable to Israel?

mikeapollo:
You can become a Jew first, and let's see.
You think people become Jew just by word of mouth?

Why don't you ask the Arabs claiming those places if the places originally belong to them or you think there are no more Biblical Jews in Israel?

So... its the biblical Jews that are in Israel currently?

Arrowhead71:
Hennen, you bring another into thing the kasala, your fashion of Jews are African, funny
Some of you said jesus christ is Palestinian
Some even said jesus is Arabia , confusion in the camp of Israel enemies

then tell me, what is it ti be Semitic?

Idaytesj29:
It's not Israel's land. QED
If its your land, you won't be on exile. You won't need a Balfour declaration and a both to go there. You won't carry PALESTINIANS passport and spend Palestine currency before violent creation of Israel in 1948.

This is just a case of international land grabbing

You are ignorant. Don't you see people going on exile even in these modern times because of war, political persecution, etc.?
How can Jews be said to be ''grabbing'' land on which their ancestors, prophets and kings had lived, died and been buried thousands of years ago, from people who came to settle on same land recently?

The land of Israel (Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Hebron etc) had existed for thousand years before the so called Balfour Declaration.
The word ''Palestine'', was originally a term for the administration of the territory covering land of Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and a small part of Egypt which were under the Romans. And Syria was like the ''administrative capital''.
Therefore, the Syrians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Israelis all carried the same passport bearing ''Palestine''.
So Palestine was never a specific tribe or country or language!
But some people have now decided to adopt the name ''Palestine'' after the creation of Israel; in order to use it and deceive the world into believing that they own the land.
Historically, the Jews were usually outnumbered by the Arabs in population, so they had to compromise and concede on so many things along the line in order to bid their time before demanding what truly belongs to them.

The Arabs were happy when the Jews were sacked and went into exile and they never wanted them to come back. Therefore re-establishing the State of Israel was opposed and up till now, they would prefer that Israel never existed on the surface of the earth. Israel had to defeat them in bitter wars before some of them reluctantly accepted to live with Israel in the region.