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HydraFeeds:
Haha ,it's ridiculous the way you say myopic all the time.

Economy is flawless ,Toyota is cheaper than Benz but if both are placed side by side ,I believe you will choose Benz .

Every sensible people knows that local manufacturing is encouraged because they want to make the same products that's imported with cheaper price and perhaps better quality.

People go for Chinese products in US because it's cheaper and it's not readily available in their home country,that's why apple etc all have their factories in China .

If it's readily available in each home country considering , natural resources,labour ,skill set and infrastructure,why go to China ?

But it will be unwise of US to reciprocate tariff when they don't have the ability to produce such products in quality and at a lower price but they proceeded anyway to prove a point.

Check countries that were most visited in Africa last year ,they're tougher on US than Nigeria yet Americans prefer them to Nigeria because of the things they will enjoy in these countries,e.g Morocco,South Africa,Egypt which boils down to my point that you don't sell yourself cheap or try to impress a girl . People know what they want and no amount of advertisement will sell a bad market .

Which means we should look internally for development instead of crawling and grovelling under the feet of people that don't rate us . That's when our stock we rise and we don't have to advertise before we sell .

You sound a bit mixed-up - you say don't sell yourself cheap and at same time u say selling will not move bad market! So you admit gragra reciprocity will not sell Nigeria.

You talk as if US has always been overun with Chinese products. They know they were better offwhen they made the products themselves

The funny thing is the average American will never even be aware of this policy by the Nigerian government because they don’t have any plans to visit Nigeria but the average Nigerian is definitely aware when the US government changes their visa policy for Nigerians because the Nigerian dream is to japa. Good luck.

Softmirror:
Exactly what the Nations being bullied by Donald Trump's administration have been doing. They reciprocate in ways that shows courage and strength. Canada would have become an extension of America, another American state if not for the reciprocate actions taken by the Canadian government.

Does Nigeria need America? Nigeria can do without them. Infact, I urge people to check and write out the list of made in America products in your possession.

Tit-for-Tat no backing down.

DoctorStanley:
You sound a bit mixed-up - you say don't sell yourself cheap and at same time u say selling will not move bad market! So you admit gragra reciprocity will not sell Nigeria.

You talk as if US has always been overun with Chinese products. They know they were better offwhen they made the products themselves

Perhaps it's your lack of understanding , if US couldn't produce what they're getting from China , why are the not crawling under the feet of Chinese but instead slamming tariff on them ?

If they know that they're bad market(that is currently unable to produce) , why are they not selling themselves cheap to the Chinese ?

The same thing applies to Nigeria , because most Nigerians travel to US than Americans coming to Nigeria doesn't mean we don't have cards to play on those americans coming to Nigeria .

Back to the production , firstly , US lost their manufacturing status because

(1) it's costly to produce in US

(2) resources unavailabilty (every country in the world has a card to play cos natural resources they posses might not be available in other countries , therefore they have to depend on this country that have no matter how insignificant they appear to be )

(3) skill issue (there's a reason why Taiwan is a strategic country to the US because they're the only one that has mastered the production of cheap)

(4) mass production (China has the ability to mass produce but US don't hence mass production leads to surplus while the inability leads to scarcity)

Now going to your They know they were better off when they made the products themselves it boils down to my assertion that despite their weakness in the manufacturing industry , they're still trying to better themselves instead of selling themselves cheap , they do not suffer from inferiority complex like you might be . They want to control their destiny the same way Nigeria wants to control her immigration destiny.

DoctorStanley:
I bet you if the roles were reversed US would not reciprocate because they know it would only cost them money, and their eyes are always on the money NOT reciprocity!

Assuming US decides to impose 50% tax on any remittances from Nigeria, will Nigeria reciprocate and impose 50% tax on remittances from US?
It's NOT everything you reciprocate!!
Someone comes to your shop to spend money. You go to his shop to make money. He says he'd start charging you a small amount to come to his shop. You angrily retaliate and say you'd also start charging him to come to your shop!😅

It's not true , America has alot of interest in Nigeria that gives them billions of USD from oil and gas and solid minerals also Tech.
For instance see France 🇫🇷, how they are crying just because Bukina Faso stopped them from mining their uranium. The economy of some western nations cannot survive without resources from Africa.

DoctorStanley:
I bet you if the roles were reversed US would not reciprocate because they know it would only cost them money, and their eyes are always on the money NOT reciprocity!

Assuming US decides to impose 50% tax on any remittances from Nigeria, will Nigeria reciprocate and impose 50% tax on remittances from US?
It's NOT everything you reciprocate!!
Someone comes to your shop to spend money. You go to his shop to make money. He says he'd start charging you a small amount to come to his shop. You angrily retaliate and say you'd also start charging him to come to your shop!😅

UK 🇬🇧 and France 🇫🇷 have the highest gold reserve in their vaults. Where do you think these were gotten from??. This helps to strengthen their GDP , and stability in Economy.

HydraFeeds:
Perhaps it's your lack of understanding , if US couldn't produce what they're getting from China , why are the not crawling under the feet of Chinese but instead slamming tariff on them ?

If they know that they're bad market(that is currently unable to produce) , why are they not selling themselves cheap to the Chinese ?

The same thing applies to Nigeria , because most Nigerians travel to US than Americans coming to Nigeria doesn't mean we don't have cards to play on those americans coming to Nigeria .

Back to the production , firstly , US lost their manufacturing status because

(1) it's costly to produce in US

(2) resources unavailabilty (every country in the world has a card to play cos natural resources they posses might not be available in other countries , therefore they have to depend on this country that have no matter how insignificant they appear to be )

(3) skill issue (there's a reason why Taiwan is a strategic country to the US because they're the only one that has mastered the production of cheap)

(4) mass production (China has the ability to mass produce but US don't hence mass production leads to surplus while the inability leads to scarcity)

Now going to your They know they were better off when they made the products themselves it boils down to my assertion that despite their weakness in the manufacturing industry , they're still trying to better themselves instead of selling themselves cheap , they do not suffer from inferiority complex like you might be . They want to control their destiny the same way Nigeria wants to control her immigration destiny.

If I now say you're being myopic you'd complain. China dumps their goods in US but informally closes their market to US goods, no matter how cheap the Chinese goods, you think that's a good thing in the long run??!
That's quite different from preventing people from coming to your country who you KNOW for certain only come to spend money!!

MatrixCircle:
It's not true , America has alot of interest in Nigeria that gives them billions of USD from oil and gas and solid minerals also Tech.
For instance see France 🇫🇷, how they are crying just because Bukina Faso stopped them from mining their uranium. The economy of some western nations cannot survive without resources from Africa.

MatrixCircle:
UK 🇬🇧 and France 🇫🇷 have the highest gold reserve in their vaults. Where do you think these were gotten from??. This helps to strengthen their GDP , and stability in Economy.

What has any of this to do with preventing people from coming to your country who you KNOW for certain only come to spend money??!

DoctorStanley:
If I now say you're being myopic you'd complain. China dumps their goods in US but informally closes their market to US goods, no matter how cheap the Chinese goods, you think that's a good thing in the long run??!
That's quite different from preventing people from coming to your country who you KNOW for certain only come to spend money!!

You're not only being myo pic but also lacking in unders tanding .

The word "dump" lacks depth because if there's no market , there won't be importation because it will cause several ripple effects like glut , loss , manufacturers shutting down etc .

China was able to "dump" their market in US because there's market for it , which stems from local manufacturing inability . China is simply doing US favour but despite this , US that is in disadvantage are still thumping their chest high and slamming tarriffs on China , the negative effect is that inflation will skyrocket in US and there will be scarcity , but they dammed all consequences and proceed to fight China .

China closing the door on US goods on the other hand are sufficient in these products hence less negative impact , if you say I'm lying , mention one American product that was blocked in China that causes scarcity or inflation in China ?


Now going to how it relates to people coming to your country to spend money , Chinese goods in US makes things cheaper and readily available , which means happy economy , Nigerians going to US means spending money in US and happy economy for US but if US don't want Chinese products or Nigerians migration , it means lesser happy economy , but still they're proceeding with this policies , so if US are proceeding with these "negative" policies , why shouldn't Nigeria do the same ?


Lastly , I mentioned countries like Egypt, Morocco and South Africa that have the highest visitors in the world , but these countries have tougher immigration policies compared to Nigeria , but people still chose them over Nigeria that has lax immigration policies , which means it's not the policy that makes people want to go to a country but what the country can offer them .

HydraFeeds:
You're not only being myo pic but also lacking in unders tanding .

The word "dump" lacks depth because if there's no market , there won't be importation because it will cause several ripple effects like glut , loss , manufacturers shutting down etc .

China was able to "dump" their market in US because there's market for it , which stems from local manufacturing inability . China is simply doing US favour but despite this , US that is in disadvantage are still thumping their chest high and slamming tarriffs on China , the negative effect is that inflation will skyrocket in US and there will be scarcity , but they dammed all consequences and proceed to fight China .

China closing the door on US goods on the other hand are sufficient in these products hence less negative impact , if you say I'm lying , mention one American product that was blocked in China that causes scarcity or inflation in China ?


Now going to how it relates to people coming to your country to spend money , Chinese goods in US makes things cheaper and readily available , which means happy economy , Nigerians going to US means spending money in US and happy economy for US but if US don't want Chinese products or Nigerians migration , it means lesser happy economy , but still they're proceeding with this policies , so if US are proceeding with these "negative" policies , why shouldn't Nigeria do the same ?


Lastly , I mentioned countries like Egypt, Morocco and South Africa that have the highest visitors in the world , but these countries have tougher immigration policies compared to Nigeria , but people still chose them over Nigeria that has lax immigration policies , which means it's not the policy that makes people want to go to a country but what the country can offer them .

This your post is so full of misinformation I don't know where to start.
First, Nigeria does not have lax immigration policies. Go and check
Second, you are totally wrong about someone dumping products in your country. Just take a look at how made-in-China has affected us here. Are we better off since they closed down local industries? It costs US JOBS! It is quite different from preventing people who are strictly coming to give you money!

DoctorStanley:
Ok, so find me an article like the ones below but that applies to US instead of Nigeria

You are saying a different thing entirely. We are talking about America's condition for issuance of visa. Diaspora remittance don't come through new entrants into USA. They come through Nigerians with valid papers in foreign countries most of them well settled. USA's new visa conditions even if Nigeria retaliates will have little or no bearing.

Besides America's restrictive visa conditions over the years has significantly reduced their contribution to our diaspora remittance. The bulk comes from Europe, Asia and Canada.

Vision101:
You are saying a different thing entirely. We are talking about America's condition for issuance of visa. Diaspora remittance don't come through new entrants into USA. They come through Nigerians with valid papers in foreign countries most of them well settled. USA's new visa conditions even if Nigeria retaliates will have little or no bearing.

Besides America's restrictive visa conditions over the years has significantly reduced their contribution to our diaspora remittance. The bulk comes from Europe, Asia and Canada.

See below

DoctorStanley:
This your post is so full of misinformation I don't know where to start.
First, Nigeria does not have lax immigration policies. Go and check
Second, you are totally wrong about someone dumping products in your country. Just take a look at how made-in-China has affected us here. Are we better off since they closed down local industries? It costs US JOBS! It is quite different from preventing people who are strictly coming to give you money!

Nigeria does not have lax immigration but when they want to reciprocate social media check policy ,it's a "tough" policy and should not be made ? Where do you stand exactly ?

So does America has lax immigration policy before wanting to implement a "tough" social media check ?

Now compare Nigeria to South Africa for instance,which country has tougher immigration policies and which country do foreigners prefer to go to the most ?

You're the one that used the word "dump" ,now let's analyse the good and the bad ,when Buhari implemented a policy of buy Nigeria grow Nigeria,closed borders and banned some goods importation,what happened? There's super inflation because we don't have the local capacity to be self sufficient.

The same will happen when you slammed 100% or more tariffs on goods US or other countries can't produce sufficiently,it will lead to super inflation,I guess you missed your basic economics class .

Should a country throw the towel and accept their fate ? No ,that's why US is slamming tariff and trying to rejig the local production ,the same thing Buhari attempted ,the only problem is implementation,it should not be done once but gradual phase out .

Now,the bone of contention is that because US didn't throw in the towel and let China control their goods (by making things cheaper and economy running smoothly) the same way Nigeria should not throw the towel and let US control our immigration.

Lastly ,it's erroneous to say US want to give Nigeria money ,any Americans that comes to Nigeria has a sole purpose of making profit ,even the said aids are not free cos it's being used to sponsor terror and control the government,lobby for more positioning and moreover it's not that Nigerians going to America are plucking money on the tree on picking it on the floor ,they work for it and contributes to US economy.

HydraFeeds:
Nigeria does not have lax immigration but when they want to reciprocate social media check policy ,it's a "tough" policy and should not be made ? Where do you stand exactly ?

So does America has lax immigration policy before wanting to implement a "tough" social media check ?

Now compare Nigeria to South Africa for instance,which country has tougher immigration policies and which country do foreigners prefer to go to the most ?

You're the one that used the word "dump" ,now let's analyse the good and the bad ,when Buhari implemented a policy of buy Nigeria grow Nigeria,closed borders and banned some goods importation,what happened? There's super inflation because we don't have the local capacity to be self sufficient.

The same will happen when you slammed 100% or more tariffs on goods US or other countries can't produce sufficiently,it will lead to super inflation,I guess you missed your basic economics class .

Should a country throw the towel and accept their fate ? No ,that's why US is slamming tariff and trying to rejig the local production ,the same thing Buhari attempted ,the only problem is implementation,it should not be done once but gradual phase out .

Now,the bone of contention is that because US didn't throw in the towel and let China control their goods (by making things cheaper and economy running smoothly) the same way Nigeria should not throw the towel and let US control our immigration.

Lastly ,it's erroneous to say US want to give Nigeria money ,any Americans that comes to Nigeria has a sole purpose of making profit ,even the said aids are not free cos it's being used to sponsor terror and control the government,lobby for more positioning and moreover it's not that Nigerians going to America are plucking money on the tree on picking it on the floor ,they work for it and contributes to US economy.

Ok, one quedtion stubborn guy, why don't other countries retaliate exactly against US tarrifs? And how is US controling our immigration? We ought do what's BEST FOR OUR ECONOMY! Not mumuishly mirror everything US does. We may even decide to make entry into Nigeria visa-free for Americans and set conditions they must abide by while here, because we've decided that's what's best for our economy. That's how a high self esteem country acts. Not wait till the other country acts then react!

Why do you think not many foreigners adopt kids from Nigeria. Go and find out about Nigerian policies

OgaSeun:
Most powerful civilization wey Taliban beat wotowoto

Keep telling yourself more beautiful lies to make you sleep well at night.

Commentor:
Yeah, all the ExxonMobil and Chevron workers are just dashing Nigeria money.

Yes because without them the companies will go bankrupt within five years.

HenryWilliams:
See how daft your response is?
So they should be allowed to shit and walk over you cos of dollars?
What happened to your dignity and respect as a Nigerian?

Na who dignity and respect help abeg. you guys should swallow your pride, your country is a shithole.

fxexperts:
Keep telling yourself more beautiful lies to make you sleep well at night.

Yes because without them the companies will go bankrupt within five years.

Na who dignity and respect help abeg. you guys should swallow your pride, your country is a shithole.

Why hasn't Seplat gone bankrupt?

Commentor:
Why hasn't Seplat gone bankrupt?

Here you go again, find your answer below. Why did they not make your kingsmen the CEO of the almighty seplat and watch the company burn to the ground?

Who is the CEO of Seplat Nigeria?
Mr. Roger Thompson Brown | Leadership | Our governance | Our ...
Mr. Roger Thompson Brown
Mr. Roger Thompson Brown | Leadership | Our governance | Our company | Seplat Energy.

fxexperts:
Here you go again, find your answer below. Why did they not make your kingsmen the CEO of the almighty seplat and watch the company burn to the ground?

Who is the CEO of Seplat Nigeria?
Mr. Roger Thompson Brown | Leadership | Our governance | Our ...
Mr. Roger Thompson Brown
Mr. Roger Thompson Brown | Leadership | Our governance | Our company | Seplat Energy.

What is kingsmen?

Oh, I forgot, your an example of all you condemn.

DoctorStanley:
You don't do reciprocity when it comes to your customer who spends money with you. If he says you must wash before you visit him you DON'T reciprocate!

Well that’s your mentality. You have a right to it. But to us Nigeria is a great country.

LegacyB:
Well that’s your mentality. You have a right to it. But to us Nigeria is a great country.

Japan is an even greater country. See how they have designated a city as hometown for Nigerians BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM! You don't wait till the other person acts then reciprocate. You do what's best 4 you, that's mark of confidence and greatness. If Nigeria had decided to give Americans free visas BEFORE Trump does anything, that's a better indication of greatness!

DoctorStanley:
Japan is an even greater country. See how they have designated a city as hometown for Nigerians BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THEM! You don't wait till the other person acts then reciprocate. You do what's best 4 you, that's mark of confidence and greatness. If Nigeria had decided to give Americans free visas BEFORE Trump does anything, that's a better indication of greatness!

Again Ure entitled to your opinion. But I support the government on it’s reciprocal actions.

LegacyB:
Again Ure entitled to your opinion. But I support the government on it’s reciprocal actions.

Great countries DON'T wait to react and reciprocate only when the other country acts, neither do they copy like mumu. It is definitely a sign of inferiority - the opposite of what they're trying to portray!

DoctorStanley:
Great countries DON'T wait to react and reciprocate only when the other country acts, neither do they copy like mumu. It is definitely a sign of inferiority - the opposite of what they're trying to portray!

Well again that’s your opinion you entitled to it. To us our Nigeria is a and would remain a great country.

LegacyB:
Well again that’s your opinion you entitled to it. To us our Nigeria is a and would remain a great country.

First of all, everything is NOT an opinion, some things are FACTS. Second of all, you're not a great country simply because you say you are. Great countries don't go about saying they're great countries while copying everybody. Great countries are proactive, they set the agenda - they don't wait to react only after someone else has acted. That's definitely a sign you're NOT a great country!!

Commentor:
What is kingsmen?

Oh, I forgot, your an example of all you condemn.

Keep deceiving yourself no problem. Why did they make a whiteman the CEO of seplat and not your fellow black man? You were the one who brought the seplat example here. I have worked in most of these multinational oil companies in Nigeria, and I know the things that go on there. Believe you me, it is the Nigerians there who teach even the white men how to steal from the company. know that and know peace.

DoctorStanley:
First of all, everything is NOT an opinion, some things are FACTS. Second of all, you're not a great country simply because you say you are. Great countries don't go about saying they're great countries while copying everybody. Great countries are proactive, they set the agenda - they don't wait to react only after someone else has acted. That's definitely a sign you're NOT a great country!!

Again that’s your opinion you entitled. Nigeria is a great country.