₦airaland Forum

chopnaira:
Can you explain why the Alaafin slept outside in honour of a chief priest in 1903?

Kindledlight:
I don’t think so, presently the protocol is that Oba of Benin is ranked higher than the Aalafin traditionally.

Maybe because Oranmiyan founded Benin before Oyo.

After Ooni and Sultan who are the permanent co chairmen of Traditional ruler council of Nigeria the next is Oba of Benin. Though I stand to be corrected.

ObiORBiafra:
How come there are Yorubas in Ghana, Benin, Togo and yet there over 50m Yorubas in Nigeria but the whole of Edo people no go pass 2.5m home and abroad.

Godjone:
Which of the Oranminyan The one that settled in Benin and impregnated a Benin woman to give birth to what we have in the present day as bini kingdom

Godjone:
Which of the Oranminyan The one that settled in Benin and impregnated a Benin woman to give birth to what we have in the present day as bini kingdom

Godjone:
Which of the Oranminyan The one that settled in Benin and impregnated a Benin woman to give birth to what we have in the present day as bini kingdom

SadiqBabaSani:
Ooni is superior to the Alaafin,

Alaafin is a subject of the Ooni of Ife,

The product cannot elevate itself above the manufacturer

Brenbentondiaz:
If Yorubas came from Bini, how come you find Bini people with Yoruba names, but Yorubas don't bear Bini names. Obinna, I know you may not understand this logic.

Exousiang01:
The office of the Ooni is that of a chief priest the Ooni is not a king, the OOni is never superior. You are saying the opposite.

oz4real83:
the Oba of Benin is the father of them all. Izoduwa that was corrupted to Oduduwa was a Benin Prince who migrated to Oyo after being banished from the Benin empire. It was he that became the first Alaafin of oyo and gave birth to the first Ooni of ife and his last born also became the Oba of Benin. The yorubas will never agree that Oduduwa came from Benin. They would rather tell you either fell he from the sky or he came from Egypt using Air peace, uber cab
or tesla🤣🤣🤣

SadiqBabaSani:
Ooni is superior to the Alaafin,

Alaafin is a subject of the Ooni of Ife,

The product cannot elevate itself above the manufacturer

femi4:
Ooni is both. He's a King n a priest

The First 10 Oonis
1st Ooni: Oduduwa
2nd Ooni: Osangangan Obamakín
3rd Ooni: Ogun
4th Ooni: Obalufon Ogbogbodirín
5th Ooni: Obalufon Alayemoré
6th Ooni: Oranmiyan
7th Ooni: Ayetíse
8th Ooni: Lájamísàn
9th Ooni: Lajodóògùn
10th Ooni: Láfògídò

No 6 left Oyo throne to be Ooni in Ife...e get why

According to early accounts, he founded Oyo as its first Alaafin in the year 1300 shortly after establishing a new dynasty in Igodomigodo

bong4:
What book is this? Please kindly share the title.
Thank you

FaloNairaman:
The Benin people believe that Oduduwa, called Prince Ekaladerhan, was the only son of the exiled King Ogiso Owodo. They believe that Ekaladerhan (or Oduduwa) exiled himself from Benin even before his father, King Ogiso Owodo was banished from Benin. Ekaladerhan or Oduduwa went to and founded Ile-Ife where he became King. After King Ogiso Owodo was deposed and banished, the Benin people went in search of the only son of the King, Prince Ekaladerhan (Oduduwa) with the aim of persuading him to return to Benin to succeed his banished father.

Instead, Ekaladerhan (Oduduwa) sent his son, Prince Oranmiyan, to Benin. But there was an administrator named Ogiamien, appointed by the people of Benin to administer Benin during that period of interregnum. Like what the late Gen. Sani Abacha did during Ernest Shonekan’s interim government, Ogiamien was nursing his own ambition – to create his own dynasty. He appointed his son to succeed him. Even though he was resisted by Benin people, Ogiamien and other warlords who contested the throne troubled Oranmiyan and made his stay uncomfortable so much that Oranmiyan decided to return to Ile-Ife, describing Benin as Ile-Ibinu (the land of vexation).

The Benin account has it that Oranmiyan reigned as Benin King from AD 1,170, although his palace was at Usama, an outskirt of the city, due to the crisis. When he eventually left, he left behind his Benin queen, Erinmwinde who gave birth to a son, who later became Oba Eweka the First in the year AD 1,200. Historians regard the beginning of the reign of Oranmiyan as the beginning of the second dynasty of kings in Benin kingdom.

One implication of the Benin line of history is that Oduduwa, whom the Yoruba claim as their father, did not fall down from heaven after all as they claim. Nobody has ever fallen down from heaven. Even Jesus who is believed to have come from heaven had to be born into the world by a woman.

Yoruba people believe that Oduduwa who fell down from heaven had a son who went on a military campaign and founded the Benin Kingdom. But from the Benin perspective, we know that before the return of Oranmiyan to Benin, the Ogiso dynasty in Benin, which saw the reign of 31 kings, had already come to pass. Of these two conflicting historical accounts of the Benin and Yoruba Kingdoms, the Benin version appears to be more tenable. Between AD 1440 and 1606, was the era of warrior kings. This corresponded to the period of Oba Ewuare the Great and Oba Ehengbuda.

Apart from the brief reigns of Oba Ezoti and Oba Olua, the rest of the kings that fell within this period were all warrior kings who led their military forces to battle. These fierce warrior kings went on military campaigns, conquering other peoples and expanding Benin’s territories and influences which resulted in empire-building.

The Benin’s capacity to successfully overrun other people’s lands has been attributed to their trade with Europeans at Ughoton, the Benin port, which bequeathed them with guns and ammunition. The Benin Empire at its zenith was said to have extended to River Niger in the east and south, into Yoruba lands (Oyo) and what came to be known as Dahomey.

Brenbentondiaz:
If Yorubas came from Bini, how come you find Bini people with Yoruba names, but Yorubas don't bear Bini names. Obinna, I know you may not understand this logic.

chopnaira:
Can you explain why the Alaafin slept outside in honour of a chief priest in 1903?

Acadatv:
Please what's the title of this book?

bong4:
What book is this? Please kindly share the title.
Thank you

TempleHouse:
Dey play ▶️
You wonder why Oba- a Yoruba word for the King is being used as a Title in Benin ⁉️

Why is Oba of Benin have his origins from Ile-Ife ??

Kindledlight:
I don’t think so, presently the protocol is that Oba of Benin is ranked higher than the Aalafin traditionally.

Maybe because Oranmiyan founded Benin before Oyo.

After Ooni and Sultan who are the permanent co chairmen of Traditional ruler council of Nigeria the next is Oba of Benin. Though I stand to be corrected.

Morenikeji090:
I understand where you coming from... But it won't been seen that way... History make us known that alaafin of oyo throne is higher than oba of benin throne.. if u make research yourself my typing in Google first class obas in yourba land you will see it Yoruba..

Exousiang01:
The office of the Ooni is that of a chief priest the Ooni is not a king, the OOni is never superior. You are saying the opposite.

mfm04622:
At the time, the Ife throne has more prestige.
However, Oyo grew to be an Empire while Ife remained a kingdom, under the control and protection of Oyo!
When Oyo was an empire, all Yoruba land was under her control and protection. Ife was recognized as the throne of Oduduwa, but Oyo later grew to be more important and more influential

OPICANTO2223:
It doesn't make sense. This man is having oral diarrhea. I wonder who gave him the knowledge to spew thrash. I believe Alaafi is the custodian of Yoruba culture, while Ooni is a highly political throne created to demystify great Oyo empire

Amotolongbo:
Further questions.
1. Are we talking about Alaafin of Oyo or Alaafin of Aago Oja?

2. We know the Yoruba ancient monuments like Ile Oduduwa, Opa Oranmiyan, Odi Moremi etc in Ife, what are the ancient Yoruba monuments we can point to in Oyo town (Aago Oja)?.

Sunday Igboho said in his own Panegyric, “Alaafin o l’ade, Ade babaami ni won gba fun n”.

Hardeybohwarley:
I tell you I once read it in a book about history of towns in Osun state that "Alaafin o lade, ade ilu i have forgotten, ni won gba fun".

Maliqcious:
many slave names even till date

oz4real83:
the Oba of Benin is the father of them all. Izoduwa that was corrupted to Oduduwa was a Benin Prince who migrated to Oyo after being banished from the Benin empire. It was he that became the first Alaafin of oyo and gave birth to the first Ooni of ife and his last born also became the Oba of Benin. The yorubas will never agree that Oduduwa came from Benin. They would rather tell you either fell he from the sky or he came from Egypt using Air peace, uber cab or tesla🤣🤣🤣