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DeepSight:
That skips the mind of a "politically alive"person in 2007?

Quit the lies son, they are no good.



Bring the evidence.



Why should I explain these? Have I mentioned them as examples of betrayal?



Please stop being shifty. You said he instituted a cabal. When, and who were the members and wht did they do to suggest they were a cabal?

Furthermore you said "he systematically shut OBJ out of his government.

Prove this.



Anyone who is ignorant, unschooled and tells horrific lies repeatedly has no business even discussing these matters. The Romance or Jokes sections would also be too advanced for such a person.

Kid.

Use your Google first. If you don't find what your looking for, bring it to my notice and I'll sort you out.
Ambode was accused by Tinubu's minions of betrayal. And the accusations stemmed from a deviation from the so-called master-plan.
GEJ's cabal was believed to be made up of Diezani, Iweala, Patience, Ogiadohme and Late Chief Clark.
Go and read OBJ'S famed letter to Jonathan for proof of being shut out of Jonathan's govt.
You don't seem to know much about Nigeria's political issues. I'm shocked

DeepSight:
I dont know. Aswani mentioned you. I sought to understand why. Thats all. Nor vex bros.

Just to put this into context sir, our man is the epitome of claiming things happened and at no point making an attempt to either produce proof or defend it. I will take Kukutente23 over Believeintruth any day as at least the former makes a fist of it.

Di tin pain mi as you apologise to am sha, my fault and I tender my own apology to you. Rest assured, next time he turns up with a banal defence of what he claims, and he will due to an inability to control himself, I will tag you in.

Maybe you will be the one that can extract some facts from him sha, we live in hope.

aswani:
Did you at any point mention Ambode or Aregbe that the poster is deflecting and asking you those questions? I guess I must have missed it as I am still somewhat catching up with your schooling them.

I tire.

The insults part of your discussion has already arrived I notice, in the form of the last two sentences in their post.

No sane person will be concerned about insults or shouts of a pathological liar.

Brenbentondiaz:
The guy probably responded reading about peak hypocrisy and lying from El Rufai. Remember those 2 attributes are the bedrock of you obidients.

Some of you just type and expose your shallow reasoning.
May I remind you that Elrufai was a prominent member of the APC until a year ago? I mean APC that's known for telling embarrassing lies even with international consequences. Look at the lie about special visa from Japan recently. Japan had to expose the lie? Anyone associated with APC has lies embedded in him

Kukutente23:
Use your Google first. If you don't find what your looking for, bring it to my notice and I'll sort you out.

He who asserts must prove. It is not my business to prove your claims. You claimed that Yaradua accused OBJ. Please quote him and be specific to quote the figure he mentioned OBJ misappropriated.

Ambode was accused by Tinubu's minions of betrayal. And the accusations stemmed from a deviation from the so-called master-plan.

What is my business with their accusations?

GEJ's cabal was believed to be made up of Diezani, Iweala, Patience, Ogiadohme and Late Chief Clark.

Oh, you now say "was believed?"

Is it no longer a statement of fact?

Believed by who?

You imagine an Okonjo-Iweala does cabals? In what respect, and what was she caballing?

Edwin Clark, an elder statesman of his advanced age was caballing?

Patience, his wife, someone who shares his matrimonial bed was in a cabal?

Grow up.

Go and read OBJ'S famed letter to Jonathan for proof of being shut out of Jonathan's govt

You cant send me to read anything. He who asserts must prove.
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You don't seem to know much about Nigeria's political issues. I'm shocked

Coming from the student who didnt know his presidents were lecturers, I cant be worried.

aswani:
Di tin pain mi as you apologise to am sha

I am a polite person. I dont know him and have never interacted with him before. Thats all.

DeepSight:
He who asserts must prove. It is not my business to prove your claims. You claimed that Yaradua accused OBJ. Please quote him and be specific to quote the figure he mentioned OBJ misappropriated.



What is my business with their accusations?



Oh, you now say "was believed?"

Is it no longer a statement of fact?

Believed by who?

You imagine an Okonjo-Iweala does cabals? In what respect, and what was she caballing?

Edwin Clark, an elder statesman of his advanced age was caballing?

Patience, his wife, someone who shares his matrimonial bed was in a cabal?

Grow up.



You cant send me to read anything. He who asserts must prove.
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Coming from the student who didnt know his presidents were lecturers, I cant be worried.

I'm not asking you to prove. I'm showing you that the proof is right under your thumb. Here's a link from FFK's page where he detailed Yaradua's accusation. Read and educate yourself. https://femifanikayode.org/obasanjo-yaradua-buhari-and-the-power-sector/

Did Buhari ever agree to having a cabal? Did you agree with the general opinion then that he had one? Why do you now shift the balance of probability to evidential proof?

Your claim is like saying since Tinubu never owned up to stealing Lagos taxes through Alpha beta, then he never did even when evidences point to the contrary.

Ask aswani if you don't believe me. He's neutral and he knows how Tinubu systematically pilfered Lagos taxes through alpha beta

Kukutente23:
I'm not asking you to prove. I'm showing you that the proof is right under your thumb. Here's a link from FFK's page where he detailed Yaradua's accusation. Read and educate yourself. https://femifanikayode.org/obasanjo-yaradua-buhari-and-the-power-sector/

Quote Yaradua. Simple. Quote him where he accused Obasanjo and the figure you claimed. If you cant quote him stop disturbing me with the words of FFK who has no integrity.

You had better wake up and realise the several innacuracies with your statement. I will not point them out for you. Just quote Yaradua accusing Obasanjo of misappropriating $16 billion.

I have helped you by highlighting the figure to give you a hint.

You are free to read the truth -

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/05/day-i-begged-yaradua-not-to-fight-obasanjo-lamido/

School yourself.

If you cannot quote Yaradua himself, just stop trying to lie on the dead.

Did Buhari ever agree to having a cabal? Did you agree with the general opinion then that he had one? Why do you now shift the balance of probability to evidential proof?

What is my business with any general opinion? You said something was a fact and now you are hiding behind "general opinion" and "it was believed."

Your claim is like saying since Tinubu never owned up to stealing Lagos taxes through Alpha beta, then he never did even when evidences point to the contrary.

How so? You mentioned ridiculous names to suggest were in a cabal. Iweala? I repeat, what was she caballing? Clark? What did he cabal?

Ask aswani if you don't believe me. He's neutral and he knows how Tinubu systematically pilfered Lagos taxes through alpha beta

Thats a fact and why would you ask me about a thing I have neither raised nor denied?

DeepSight:
Quote Yaradua. Simple. Quote him where he accused Obasanjo and the figure you claimed. If you cant quote him stop disturbing me with the words of FFK who has no integrity.

You had better wake up and realise the several innacuracies with your statement. I will not point them out for you. Just quote Yaradua accusing Obasanjo of misappropriating $16 billion.

I have helped you by highlighting the figure to give you a hint.

You are free to read the truth -

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/05/day-i-begged-yaradua-not-to-fight-obasanjo-lamido/

School yourself.

If you cannot quote Yaradua himself, just stop trying to lie on the dead.



What is my business with any general opinion? You said something was a fact and now you are hiding behind "general opinion" and "it was believed."



How so? You mentioned ridiculous names to suggest were in a cabal. Iweala? I repeat, what was she caballing? Clark? What did he cabal?



Thats a fact and why would you ask me about a thing I have neither raised nor denied?

You make me laugh at times. So Lamido is the veritable source of truth? Same Lamido who was widely denounced as lying just a few months ago? Anyways, here's FFK quoting Yaradua verbatim on the subject:

Yet he did not stop there but he also went on to tell a pernicious and dirty lie to the whole world that a whooping 16 billion U.S. dollars was spent on the power sector by the Obasanjo administration and yet, he claimed, that ”there was nothing to show for it”.

Here's another from The Cable quoting Yaradaua verbatim as well: His successor, Umaru Musa Yar’Adua, had alleged that Obasanjo’s administration spent $11 billion on the sector “with nothing to show for it”. https://www.thecable.ng/flashback-obasanjo-said-2008-16bn-allegation/

Here is also Guardian confirming that Yaradua accused OBJ of spending $16bn on power with "nothing to show for it", The rumour about the $16 billion wasted on power supply has been doing the rounds since Obasanjo left office in 2007. The late President Umaru Yar’Adua was the first to draw national attention to. https://guardian.ng/opinion/the-missing-16-billion-and-the-missing-power/#google_vignette

Anyways, here is an except from Abati in one of his weekyl colums where he referred to powerful players in the Jonathan govt. “The powerful players who told me what the President wanted and that it was an emergency were by my side. I just muttered: “Sorry sir.” I hope you will be fair enough to accept now that Jonathan indeed had a cabal. https://pmparrotng.com/2017/03/15/abati-recalls-day-the-cabal-made-him-tell-a-lie-that-annoyed-gej/

Here is another popular article with a more sensational headline. Read it to know Clark's activities in Jonathan's govt: https://opinion.premiumtimesng.com/2015/10/16/clark-the-father-jonathan-the-son-by-reuben-abati/?tztc=1

The bottomline in all these is that both Yaradua and Jonathan betrayed OBJ who was their benefactor. That is a fact you can't erase.

I'm still waiting for you to confirm from aswani who I can ashua you is very neutral about Tinubu's pilfering of Lagos taxes. I'm sure he will educate you about what you don't know about the grand looter called Tinubu. Just ask him

Kukutente23:
You make me laugh at times. So Lamido is the veritable source of truth? Same Lamido who was widely denounced as lying just a few months ago? Anyways, here's FFK quoting Yaradua verbatim on the subject:

Yet he did not stop there but he also went on to tell a pernicious and dirty lie to the whole world that a whooping 16 billion U.S. dollars was spent on the power sector by the Obasanjo administration and yet, he claimed, that ”there was nothing to show for it”.

Here's another from The Cable quoting Yaradaua verbatim as well: His successor, Umaru Musa Yar’Adua, had alleged that Obasanjo’s administration spent $11 billion on the sector “with nothing to show for it”. https://www.thecable.ng/flashback-obasanjo-said-2008-16bn-allegation/

Here is also Guardian confirming that Yaradua accused OBJ of spending $16bn on power with "nothing to show for it", The rumour about the $16 billion wasted on power supply has been doing the rounds since Obasanjo left office in 2007. The late President Umaru Yar’Adua was the first to draw national attention to. https://guardian.ng/opinion/the-missing-16-billion-and-the-missing-power/#google_vignette

Anyways, here is an except from Abati in one of his weekyl colums where he referred to powerful players in the Jonathan govt. “The powerful players who told me what the President wanted and that it was an emergency were by my side. I just muttered: “Sorry sir.” I hope you will be fair enough to accept now that Jonathan indeed had a cabal. https://pmparrotng.com/2017/03/15/abati-recalls-day-the-cabal-made-him-tell-a-lie-that-annoyed-gej/

Here is another popular article with a more sensational headline. Read it to know Clark's activities in Jonathan's govt: https://opinion.premiumtimesng.com/2015/10/16/clark-the-father-jonathan-the-son-by-reuben-abati/?tztc=1

The bottomline in all these is that both Yaradua and Jonathan betrayed OBJ who was their benefactor. That is a fact you can't erase.

I'm still waiting for you to confirm from aswani who I can ashua you is very neutral about Tinubu's pilfering of Lagos taxes. I'm sure he will educate you about what you don't know about the grand looter called Tinubu. Just ask him

Quote Yaradua otherwise stop wasting my time.

Why are you bothering me about Tinubu's thievery in Lagos. It's a well known fact.

DeepSight:
Quote Yaradua otherwise stop wasting my time.

Why are you bothering me about Tinubu's thievery in Lagos. It's a well known fact.

I just quoted a paper that quote Yaradua
Are you too disoriented to read? His successor, Umaru Musa Yar’Adua, had alleged that Obasanjo’s administration spent $11 billion on the sector “with nothing to show for it”.
I'm even surprised anyone will claim Yaradua and Goodluck did not betray OBJ
Like I said, maybe you were not alive in political discourse and events then
Are you even aware Yaradua and GEJ refused to clear turbines bought for billions of dollars by OBJ's govt to increase power generation? It was Fashola that cleared them in 2018
I am calling your attention to TInubu's heist of Lagos cause I don't want you to ask me for evidence tomorrow. Aswani is my witness to this. If you accept that Tinubu is a thief who was stealing Lagos taxes and using it to better his family and enterprise while turning Lagos youths to agbero while the deprived youths come online to defend him, then I will want it documented on this forum by a neutral guy like aswani.

Kukutente23:
I just quoted a paper that quote Yaradua
Are you too disoriented to read? His successor, Umaru Musa Yar’Adua, had alleged that Obasanjo’s administration spent $11 billion on the sector “with nothing to show for it”.
I'm even surprised anyone will claim Yaradua and Goodluck did not betray OBJ
Like I said, maybe you were not alive in political discourse and events then
Are you even aware Yaradua and GEJ refused to clear turbines bought for billions of dollars by OBJ's govt to increase power generation? It was Fashola that cleared them in 2018
I am calling your attention to TInubu's heist of Lagos cause I don't want you to ask me for evidence tomorrow. Aswani is my witness to this. If you accept that Tinubu is a thief who was stealing Lagos taxes and using it to better his family and enterprise while turning Lagos youths to agbero while the deprived youths come online to defend him, then I will want it documented on this forum by a neutral guy like aswani.

You dont know that there were alot of rumours about the issue. Stop quoting people, articles etc who claimed to quote him. I said quote him. You know very well there is no single quote of the man uttering such words himself. Anything else is hearsay.

In fact, GENZ that you are, ask AI.

If you cannot quote Yaradua himself, just forget it. I dont have your time.

At all events -

1. The hearsay quotes you are producing are limited to the words "with nothing to show for it." Mind you, NOWHERE will you find the President himself saying that. I challenge you to produce it and stop playing around.

2. Why are you running away from the figure. You had better do your research to prove your claim. Yaradua never said a word anywhere about any such $16 billion fugure.

Quote the man. Its easy. He gave speeches. He spoke publicly. He spoke in FEC meetings. There are videos of him. Produce it where he said it.

As for Tinubu, yes, he stole Lagos blind and is still doing so. How many times do I have to say this? ? ? ?

DeepSight:
You dont know that there were alot of rumours about the issue. Stop quoting people, articles etc who claimed to quote him. I said quote him. You know very well there is no single quote of the man uttering such words himself. Anything else is hearsay.

In fact, GENZ that you are, ask AI.

If you cannot quote Yaradua himself, just forget it. I dont have your time.

At all events -

1. The hearsay quotes you are producing are limited to the words "with nothing to show for it." Mind you, NOWHERE will you find the President himself saying that. I challenge you to produce it and stop playing around.

2. Why are you running away from the figure. You had better do your research to prove your claim. Yaradua never said a word anywhere about any such $16 billion fugure.

Quote the man. Its easy. He gave speeches. He spoke publicly. He spoke in FEC meetings. There are videos of him. Produce it where he said it.

As for Tinubu, yes, he stole Lagos blind and is still doing so. How many times do I have to say this? ? ? ?

So who is The Cable quoting when they quoted "with nothing to show for it"? You abi?

You have upped the ante by now requesting for a video of Yaradua saying such. Are you sure you are Ok?

I want aswani to bear me witness that you said Tinubu is robbing Lagos blind by the day. He is a neutral guy and I'm sure he's only on this platform for truth and facts

Kukutente23:
So who is The Cable quoting when they quoted "with nothing to show for it"? You abi?

You have upped the ante by now requesting for a video of Yaradua saying such. Are you sure you are Ok?

I want aswani to bear me witness that you said Tinubu is robbing Lagos blind by the day. He is a neutral guy and I'm sure he's only on this platform for truth and facts

If you dont know what hearsay is, I can't help you.

You dont need a video. I didnt say bring a video. Quote the man. Where, when he said such. There are transcripts of his speeches, of his words. Quote him or let the dead rest in peace.

Stop quoting what others said that he said.

Kukutente23, GenZ boy, since its AI you all live on, take an AI answer:

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While it is widely reported that Umaru Musa Yar'Adua's administration initiated a probe into the $16 billion power sector expenditure of his predecessor, Olusegun Obasanjo, there is no single, widely-published direct quote from Yar'Adua himself accusing Obasanjo of the corruption.

The accusation became a central point of political discourse and investigation during Yar'Adua's presidency, and it was a House of Representatives committee that probed the matter. The public outrage and demand for a probe came from various political figures, civil society groups, and the media.

The scandal is often referenced in news reports and political commentary, and the figure of $16 billion is consistently linked to the Obasanjo administration's spending on power, with little to show for it. However, the exact quote from Yar'Adua himself on the matter is not available in public records.

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Culled.

Fetch me Yaradua's personal words saying such. Where, and when and to who.

DeepSight:
If you dont know what hearsay is, I can't help you.

You dont need a video. I didnt say bring a video. Quote the man. Where, when he said such. There are transcripts of his speeches, of his words. Quote him or let the dead rest in peace.

Stop quoting what others said that he said.

Stop clowning. Below is from Reno

It is not accurate to say that President Yar'adua never criticised President Obasanjo. In March of 2008, then President Yar'adua heavily and publicly criticised his predecessor, President Obasanjo, for spending $11 billion on the power sector “with nothing to show for it”. I have quoted President Yar'adua's exact words.

Kukutente23:
Stop clowning. Below is from Reno

It is not accurate to say that President Yar'adua never criticised President Obasanjo. In March of 2008, then President Yar'adua heavily and publicly criticised his predecessor, President Obasanjo, for spending $11 billion on the power sector “with nothing to show for it”. I have quoted President Yar'adua's exact words.

You are quoting Reno. You are not quoting Yaradua.
And oh, notice the figure he mentioned?

Kukutente23 let me show you what a direct quote of a person looks like.

"All is fair in war, and starvation is one of the weapons of war. I don’t see why we should feed our enemies fat, only to fight us harder."

— Obafemi Awolowo, vice chairman of the Federal Executive Council and Commissioner of Finance.

Direct, verbatim, traceable, sourceable, written and said personally.

Fetch me what Yaradua said.

You cant. It doesnt exist.

DeepSight:
let me show you what a direct quote of a person looks like.

"All is fair in war, and starvation is one of the weapons of war. I don’t see why we should feed our enemies fat, only to fight us harder."

— Obafemi Awolowo, vice chairman of the Federal Executive Council and Commissioner of Finance.

Direct, verbatim, traceable, sourceable, written and said personally.

Fetch me what Yaradua said.

You cant. It doesnt exist.

Where did you get this Awolowo quote from? Where you there when he said it or I should just swallow it hook, line and sinker cause you nor dey lie and you swear to God say Awolowo talk am?

DeepSight:
You are quoting Reno. You are not quoting Yaradua.
And oh, notice the figure he mentioned?

Reno, FFK, the Cable all quoted Yaradua

DeepSight:
Kukutente23, GenZ boy, since its AI you all live on, take an AI answer:

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While it is widely reported that Umaru Musa Yar'Adua's administration initiated a probe into the $16 billion power sector expenditure of his predecessor, Olusegun Obasanjo, there is no single, widely-published direct quote from Yar'Adua himself accusing Obasanjo of the corruption.

The accusation became a central point of political discourse and investigation during Yar'Adua's presidency, and it was a House of Representatives committee that probed the matter. The public outrage and demand for a probe came from various political figures, civil society groups, and the media.

The scandal is often referenced in news reports and political commentary, and the figure of $16 billion is consistently linked to the Obasanjo administration's spending on power, with little to show for it. However, the exact quote from Yar'Adua himself on the matter is not available in public records.

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Culled.

Fetch me Yaradua's personal words saying such. Where, and when and to who.

So The Cable, Reno and FFK is lying abi

Kukutente23:
So who is The Cable quoting when they quoted "with nothing to show for it"? You abi?

You have upped the ante by now requesting for a video of Yaradua saying such. Are you sure you are Ok?

I want aswani to bear me witness that you said Tinubu is robbing Lagos blind by the day. He is a neutral guy and I'm sure he's only on this platform for truth and facts

Even though you are coming after me too with some side swiping, fair play to you, you are producing some stuff and teasing Ọga DeepSight out of his corner making him say stuff like "Tinubu robbed Lagos blind", which obviously gives you that "prove it card" to use as counter.

I admit, the discussion is intriguing and not the one sided smackdown it initially looked to be. I am lost somewhat though as you guys have spun well away from the centre you started from.

Good stuff all round.

aswani:
Even though you are coming after me too with some side swiping, fair play to you, you are producing some stuff and teasing Ọga DeepSight out of his corner making him say stuff like "Tinubu robbed Lagos blind", which obviously gives you that "prove it card" to use as counter.

I admit, the discussion is intriguing and not the one sided smackdown it initially looked to be. I am lost somewhat though as you guys have spun well away from the centre you started from.

Good stuff all round.

I don't need him to say "Tinubu robbed Lagos blind". I already know that as well. The point of bringing that into the conversation is to show him that it's not until you quote things verbatim before they have validity. Tinubu did rob Lagos blind. You know it. I know it. He knows it. So we can use that to judge the validity of other issues

Even if you contest for election you may not win in your constituency as a senator. It is saver for you not to test your political popularity . Hide and seek is better for you sir.

That's because you can't win any position if you contest.

Kukutente23:
So The Cable, Reno and FFK is lying abi

They simply peddled a popular rumour nd assumption. The noise about the issue predated Yaradua's assumption of office. In fact Buhari it was who made the most of it in his campaigns. Also two of the three you metioned are eminently untrustworthy.

Kukutente23:
Where did you get this Awolowo quote from? Where you there when he said it or I should just swallow it hook, line and sinker cause you nor dey lie and you swear to God say Awolowo talk am?

He wrote it himself in black and white.

aswani:
Even though you are coming after me too with some side swiping, fair play to you, you are producing some stuff and teasing Ọga DeepSight out of his corner making him say stuff like "Tinubu robbed Lagos blind", which obviously gives you that "prove it card" to use as counter.

I admit, the discussion is intriguing and not the one sided smackdown it initially looked to be. I am lost somewhat though as you guys have spun well away from the centre you started from.

Good stuff all round.

There is not a single personal quote of Yaradua saying what Kukutente claimed he said. He has onLy quoted other people and NOT Yaradua.
He has not shown any betrayal.

Also on Lagos, its a bad analogy. There is actual evidence of Tinubu's stranglehold on Lagos and of his looting. That he has not been prosecuted successfully does not mean the evidence is not in the public domain. It is.

By contrast there isnt any evidence Yaradua said what was claimed. He is just citing the words of other people. Some of whom are notoriously untrustworthy.

DeepSight:
He wrote it himself in black and white.

Where?

DeepSight:
They simply peddled a popular rumour nd assumption. The noise about the issue predated Yaradua's assumption of office. In fact Buhari it was who made the most of it in his campaigns. Also two of the three you metioned are eminently untrustworthy.

Predated ke? What are you saying?

Kukutente23:
Where?

In response to international pressure and criticism on the policy of the bloackade of Biafra, he said so on July 28 1969 and furthermore he explained it in a Townhall Meeting in Abeokuta in 1983 in person.