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AntiChristian:
How can God come in human form to die?

This is out of sense!

A God that dies is an anomaly!

A God that has three distinct persons is an anomaly!

God should be indivisibly one and eternal!

You want to define God and determine who he is by your own parametres?
Genesis 19:24 And Yahweh (The Lord) rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh (The Lord) out of heaven. 2 Yahwehs mentioned here.
God is one in unity and not in number. Do deep research and you'll see that God is a Trinity with the Father being the Head of the Triumvirate. They all share the same essence, nature and qualities, totally distinct from all else and all three created all else.
Job 33:4 the Spirit of God has made me
Isaiah 48:16 NKJV. “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me.”
Isaiah 63:10: "But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit. So He turned and became their enemy, and He Himself fought against them".
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace"
Acts 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit....
p.s. in the actual sense, it is the body of Jesus that died. Jesus said "destroy this temple (His body) and I will raise it up in 3 days". Jesus the Eternal Word did not die. They killed the body He inhabited. He sacrificed His body for our sins and raised it up again after 3 days. "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God and the Word was God.... All things were made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made"

Globad:
It's disrespectful to the majesty of God to think that the omnipotent God could not get something done unless he had to descend into a lowly human form.

Up till today, it doesn't make sense in the older Judaism.

Such a thinking was concocted by Trinitarians and is not part of any statement directly credited to Jesus in the canonical gospels.

Of course the gospel of John and the writings of Paul are another matter entirely

Having split God into three, I don't know why Christianity is still being described as a monotheistic religion. It is a polytheistic religion

Will you guys stop this!!!!
If you don't understand something. At least keep quiet and pass. Must you put down every garbage that comes to your mind. I'm just shocked that humans with intelligent minds would dare to argue what their natural mind can't grasp. Please stop!!!. Save yourself from Blasphemy this early morning

gohf:
Conclusion

Based on the Greek text’s syntax and vocabulary:

Not "God" (as τὸν Θεόν): ὁ Λόγος is not presented as identical to τὸν Θεόν (the specific deity). The use of πρὸς τὸν Θεόν and the qualitative Θεὸς indicate distinction, with ὁ Λόγος being "with" the deity and sharing divine qualities, not being the deity itself.


Not clearly "a god": While Θεὸς could be translated as "a god," the anarthrous construction and context suggest a qualitative sense ("divine" rather than portraying ὁ Λόγος as a separate divine entity. The philosophical tone leans toward Λόγος as a principle with divine attributes, not a distinct "god."

Not "the same as the God": The text explicitly distinguishes ὁ Λόγος from τὸν Θεόν through πρὸς and the structure, ruling out identity.

The author portrays ὁ Λόγος as a distinct entity, existing in the beginning, in close relation to τὸν Θεόν (the deity), and possessing divine qualities (Θεὸς, "divine".

The best translation, as previously provided, is: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the deity, the Word was divine. This was in the beginning with the deity." This reflects ὁ Λόγος as divine in nature but not identical to τὸν Θεόν.

JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND NOT GOD THE SON

JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND NOT GOD THE SON

I beg to differ on this. Jesus is both the Son of God and God the Son. This is a truth that only the Spiritually minded will grasp.

Globad:
The same God who prevented Abraham from using his son as a sacrifice later decided to use His own "son" as a conditional sacrifice?

He sacrificed the son to Himself. He shed His own blood for Himself to accept.

Even with the sacrifice with conditions, sins still exist.

Meanwhile, Satan was spared...

Wish I could explain things to you but I'll still say it. Abraham's request to sacrifice his son was a test.

Jesus sacrificing his life for us was to redeem us back to God from our sinful nature.

The time of satan is limited.

All this are scriptural truths that are based on the word of God

gohf:
When false teachers like chris oyakinlome tell that because Jesus is the son of God he is God and tells you to be like him, he is telling you be God as well and that's not what Jesus and the apostles taught

Don't say things you don't know much about and stop saying things against the man of God. Whatever he is, let the God who called him be the judge of that. Aiight.

BodyCount:
God can NEVER BE OR COME IN HUMAN FORM

You people should stop deceiving YOURSELVES .

That's a limitation you have set for yourself 🤨.

Globad:
The same God who prevented Abraham from using his son as a sacrifice later decided to use His own "son" as a conditional sacrifice?

He sacrificed the son to Himself. He shed His own blood for Himself to accept.

Even with the sacrifice with conditions, sins still exist.

Meanwhile, Satan was spared...

Does that question and makes sense
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Antiislam

AntiChristian:
How can God come in human form to die?

This is out of sense!

A God that dies is an anomaly!

A God that has three distinct persons is an anomaly!

God should be indivisibly one and eternal!

Bro, that's the only reason for our salvation

erniok:
The jews knew that God was coming in human flesh because it is in their scriptures. Study the scriptures.

The Jew never claimed God is coming in human form...don't lie
If them no why would they kill Jesus

plessis:
The bible said yahweh made man in his own image. Meaning man had an image before yahweh imposed his image on man.

Jesus is man in his unaltered image and abilities. But not son of yahweh as painted by the bible.

Why would you people (confusing) yourself

Expanse2020:
The Jew never claimed God is coming in human form...don't lie
If them no why would they kill Jesus

Read the scripture I referenced in Isa9:6 and show where I lied.

erniok:
Read the scripture I referenced in Isa9:6 and show where I lied.

Isa 9:6 for bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Globad:
The same God who prevented Abraham from using his son as a sacrifice later decided to use His own "son" as a conditional sacrifice?

He sacrificed the son to Himself. He shed His own blood for Himself to accept.

Even with the sacrifice with conditions, sins still exist.

Meanwhile, Satan was spared...

The logic tire me whenever I think about.

Expanse2020:
Isa 9:6 for bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Na for Koran abi you no get the updated version?

AngelahFlo:
Don't say things you don't know much about and stop saying things against the man of God. Whatever he is, let the God who called him be the judge of that. Aiight.

who called who, where you there when he was called?
who told you he is a man that is sent by God?

Anyway, he taught and teaches what is false, so he is a false teacher.

Jesus is not God and there is only one God, the Father of Jesus who is the son of God and son or sons of God never meant God

AngelahFlo:
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND NOT GOD THE SON

I beg to differ on this. Jesus is both the Son of God and God the Son. This is a truth that only the Spiritually minded will grasp.

lol spiritual truth, truth is true, God never lied, Jesus never lied but men do and they lied to you about some so call spiritual truth that are actually "deep secrets of Satan"

What did God reveal to Peter, that Jesus is the Christ son of the living God and not another God or the same God or anything you wish to imply by your spiritually mind

plessis:
What then did christ mean in the scripture John 10:34?

if you can tell us what did Christ mean and why he said this

John.10.36 why do you call it blasphemy when the Holy One who was sent into the world by the Father says, 'I am the Son of God'?

John.17.3 And this is the way to have eternal life--to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.

erniok:
the septuagint is the ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew bible. The translators couldn't comprehend what the prophet was saying in that verse and chose to translate what they wanted. It was too much for them to believe that God was coming in human form.

Read Daniel's prophecy about the son of man that Jesus also called himself.

🤣 "The translators couldn't comprehend what the prophet was saying in that verse and chose to translate what they wanted"

Do you agree that in the masoretic text what is written is NAME not nameS so how come the list of names or which of them is the name in your translations?

Okay Daniel's prophecy about the son of man and I read, Dan.7.13 -14, "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.

Globad:
The same God who prevented Abraham from using his son as a sacrifice later decided to use His own "son" as a conditional sacrifice?

He sacrificed the son to Himself. He shed His own blood for Himself to accept.

Even with the sacrifice with conditions, sins still exist.

Meanwhile, Satan was spared...

Many things here are wrong and based on wrong narrative

God did not sacrifice Jesus or his son, Jesus gave his life, he gave himself same thing children of God are expected to do, offer yourself as a living sacrifice totally obedient to God even to death.

Secondly, the blood isn't meant for God but for us to cleanse ourselves from sin, the blood was shed on earth it wasn't shed not sent to heaven.

thirdly the blood doesn't remove sins nor the consequences of sins from everyone only those who come to God with a repentant heart. That's why two were crucified beside Jesus but only one received the promise of the kingdom of God

Gabrielshow24:
That's a limitation you have set for yourself 🤨.

That's the senseless ideology the European slavers have brain washed you with.
Can you prove that man yeshua is God without using the story-bible they gave?

SonofElElyonRet:
You want to define God and determine who he is by your own parametres?
Genesis 19:24 And Yahweh (The Lord) rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh (The Lord) out of heaven. 2 Yahwehs mentioned here.
God is one in unity and not in number. Do deep research and you'll see that God is a Trinity with the Father being the Head of the Triumvirate. They all share the same essence, nature and qualities, totally distinct from all else and all three created all else.
Job 33:4 the Spirit of God has made me
Isaiah 48:16 NKJV. “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me.”
Isaiah 63:10: "But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit. So He turned and became their enemy, and He Himself fought against them".
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace"
Acts 5:3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit....
p.s. in the actual sense, it is the body of Jesus that died. Jesus said "destroy this temple (His body) and I will raise it up in 3 days". Jesus the Eternal Word did not die. They killed the body He inhabited. He sacrificed His body for our sins and raised it up again after 3 days. "In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) and the Word was with God and the Word was God.... All things were made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made"

quick question in Genesis 18, YHVH appeared to Abraham and Moses noticed three men, from verse 20-22 YHVH said he was leaving and two men left but in vs 22, Abraham is still standing before YHVH

were all three YHVH
was only one of them YHVH
or were all three just representatives of YHVH

while you answer do note, no one has seen God except Jesus, (John 1:18, 6:46, 1 John 4:12.)

second quick simple question, in Isaiah 9:6 is it his NAME or his nameS?

third simple question, who did Ananais speak to in acts 5:3? Was it Peter or not?

BodyCount:
That's the senseless ideology the European slavers have brain washed you with.
Can you prove that man yeshua is God without using the story-bible they gave?

I don't even need to. May I ask can you visualize 10-D in your head🤨? Don't bother to, you can't! While then did you conclude that a supposed infinte dimensioned God can or cannot do something 🥱.Haven't you placed yourself in God's place?

Based on his omnipotency then I know I can't visualize and neither do I know how God works🤨 but I do know that Jesus revealed God to us. If you know how God works let us know if not then I will assume you are just committing Fallacy of personal incredulity🤷.

Jesus is the almighty God. One with the Father, He is in the Father and the Father is in him, God is one God.

Is it impossible for God to take the human form. That is what Jesus did, so, God made man in his image, and God preserved the DNA of man, until he became a man. Although the fallen angels tried to corrupt the dna of humanity, God preserved it, by saving Noah and his family.

All things were made for the Son and all things were made through the Son and he holds everything together, he holds the universe together.

This universe, our reality, is all in the palm of his hands, this is my faith in Jesus. amen.

Christianity is the biggest scam of all time.

The name jesus never existed and yet the person called Yeshua started his ministry at the age of 30yrs and was murdered at 33yrs.

Between ages 0-30,Yeshua lived a normal life like you and I ,under the auspices of his parents, joseph and Mary was around 14-16yrs old when they got married.

Now christians have a human made god.

What a shame!

gohf:
lol spiritual truth, truth is true, God never lied, Jesus never lied but men do and they lied to you about some so call spiritual truth that are actually "deep secrets of Satan"

What did God reveal to Peter, that Jesus is the Christ son of the living God and not another God or the same God or anything you wish to imply by your spiritually mind

Once again I repeat this is Truth that only Spiritually minded people will grasp so figure that out. If you like keep arguing. I won't say more than this. Won't waste my arguments with someone who can't grasp spiritual truths.

gohf:
who called who, where you there when he was called?
who told you he is a man that is sent by God?

Anyway, he taught and teaches what is false, so he is a false teacher.

Jesus is not God and there is only one God, the Father of Jesus who is the son of God and son or sons of God never meant God

I can't imagine that we still have full blooded individuals who chose to make themselves the Judge of who and who is rightly called or not. He's not my Pastor neither do I attend any of his meetings but I'll never raise my mouth and speak things that will be used against me. Mr Man you better focus on your individual problems and leave the man of God alone. I won't say more than this. Focus on the log in your eye and stop focusing on the speck in somebody's eyes.

Lukuluku69:
When is God taking the Animal Form? Or has He taken that unknowest to us Humans?

Only the devil took an animal form
God took human form because humans were created in his image not animals
Even Allah agrees in the Qur'an that humans are created in God's image

MaxInDHouse come see o. They're rubbishing you and JW on front page

gohf:
quick question in Genesis 18, YHVH appeared to Abraham and Moses noticed three men, from verse 20-22 YHVH said he was leaving and two men left but in vs 22, Abraham is still standing before YHVH

were all three YHVH
was only one of them YHVH
or were all three just representatives of YHVH

while you answer do note, no one has seen God except Jesus, (John 1:18, 6:46, 1 John 4:12.)

second quick simple question, in Isaiah 9:6 is it his NAME or his nameS?

third simple question, who did Ananais speak to in acts 5:3? Was it Peter or not?

1. God and 2 angels. Read and research further and you'll see that the 2 angels were the ones that went to Sodom and Gomorrah.
2. No one has seen God in His full glory except Jesus. Read and research further and you'll see that the bible says that Abraham, Moses, Daniel, Isaiah etc saw God
3. All names in Isaiah 9:6 refer to same person and no bible scholar disputes this. You seem to think the Hebrew/Aramaic language is fussy about singular and plural
4. Relevance of your Ananaias isn't clear. Obviously Peter isn't the Holy Spirit but the Holy Spirit was obviously present there and spoke through Peter. You can only lie to a person. The Holy Spirit is clearly personified here

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That Seyi is the son of the President and people seek favour through him doesn't mean that he is Jagaban. I'd rather go straight to the President. Everyone's style is different. God has been great because I talk to him without an intermediary.

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