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So annoying and irritating to see the nicest part of Lagos named after Queen Victoria, a racist invader and thief who presided over the invasion, bombardment and destruction of Great Benin in 1897, burning the city down and looting the Oba's palace after its bombardment.

Benin city had multi-storeyed residences and public monuments, had underground drainage and streetlights 300 years before London. The Benin kingdom had a wall that was 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China. Only visible in rural areas now, with the British having destroyed the grand walls around the city proper.

Today the famous Benin bronzes are displayed in museums across Europe and are in private collections, sold for millions of dollars.

Now tell me something.

Have the British ever apologised to you for what they did?

What are you doing naming your best area in your biggest city ''Victoria Island''?

For what?

What does 'Victoria' have to do with that place?

I've never seen a country in Africa that needs an IBRAHIM TRAORE like Nigeria,

Why GOD sent him to Burkina Faso instead of Nigeria, I will never know.

Pitiful.

They love there slave chain still hanging round there necks.

Queen Victoria was a good friend of the Yoruba Nation who helped to end the Kiriji Wars , save Yorubas being carried off to slavery , ended the slave trade and even adopted a Yoruba girl (Aina Bonetta Forbes) as her daughter

Victoria Island Stays

Christistruth03:
Queen Victoria was a good friend of the Yoruba Nation who helped to end the Kiriji Wars , save Yorubas being carried off to slavery , ended the slave trade and even adopted a Yoruba girl (Aina Bonetta Forbes) as her daughter

Victoria Island Stays

I thought you guys said that Yoruba and benin were brothers and that Ooni of Ife migrated from ancient benin kingdom.

What do you want to call it? Oworoshokim or Illupajo?

Op it is Victoria Island and not Victoria Chinedu Island.

TheBillyonaire:
What do you want to call it? Oworoshokim or Illupajo?

The place has an indigenous name

Kemetian:
So annoying and irritating to see the nicest part of Lagos named after Queen Victoria, a racist invader and thief who presided over the invasion, bombardment and destruction of Great Benin in 1897, burning the city down and looting the Oba's palace after its bombardment.

Benin city had multi-storeyed residences and public monuments, had underground drainage and streetlights 300 years before London. The Benin kingdom had a wall that was 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China. Only visible in rural areas now, with the British having destroyed the grand walls around the city proper.

Today the famous Benin bronzes are displayed in museums across Europe and are in private collections, sold for millions of dollars.

Now tell me something.

Have the British ever apologised to you for what they did?

What are you doing naming your best area in your biggest city ''Victoria Island''?

For what?

What does 'Victoria' have to do with that place?

I've never seen a country in Africa that needs an IBRAHIM TRAORE like Nigeria,

Why GOD sent him to Burkina Faso instead of Nigeria, I will never know.

Pitiful.

IBRAHIM is an Arabic name. What about 'AFRICA'?

Benin had underground drainages? 🤣🤣 Yet 2000 years later they don't know how to make underground drainage again x🤣🤣🤣

Christistruth03:
Queen Victoria was a good friend of the Yoruba Nation who helped to end the Kiriji Wars , save Yorubas being carried off to slavery , ended the slave trade and even adopted a Yoruba girl (Aina Bonetta Forbes) as her daughter

Victoria Island Stays

Spare me your colonial narratives.

The British intervention in the Kiriji war was not done out of ''oyinbo kindness'' as you NAIVELY imagine.

If a foreigner wants to loot your resources and sees you fighting, he will stop the fight, to ease his task of looting. It's not because he loves you. He came to your land to loot your resources, so he doesn't love you, oh naive African.

The intervention gave the British a pretext to dismantle the military prowess of the major Yoruba powers, paving the way for their eventual colonial consolidation of the region.

Queen Victoria did not end slavery. Britain outlawed the slave trade in 1807, nearly 30 years before Victoria's reign.

Slavery was not ended out of ''Oyinbo kindness''.

Britain’s Industrial Revolution made factories and wage labor more profitable than slave plantations. Cotton mills in Manchester, for example, needed markets, not just raw slave-grown cotton.

Britain started to see Africa less as a source of enslaved labor and more as a market for manufactured goods and a source of raw materials (like palm oil, which was vital for soap, candles, and later, lubricating machines).

In short: slavery didn’t fit the new industrial capitalist model.

By leading abolition, Britain could claim the moral high ground while also using its navy to control the seas.

Abolition also gave Britain leverage to pressure African rulers into treaties, which laid the groundwork for colonization later in the 19th century.


Slave Rebellions & Resistance

Constant uprisings in the Caribbean and Americas made slavery look unstable and expensive to maintain. The Haitian Revolution especially terrified European powers.

Enslaved Africans resisted everywhere, and their resistance contributed directly to the collapse of the trade.

So, why did Britain stop it?
👉 Because moral activism, economic transformation, African resistance, and imperial strategy all converged. It was not simply kindness — it was also about Britain reshaping the world economy in its own favor.

-AI

Softmirror:
IBRAHIM is an Arabic name. What about 'AFRICA'?

So is it Igbo name that is the problem? We might as well stop being a nation. Let's find comfort

SarkinYarki:
Benin had underground drainages? 🤣🤣 Yet 2000 years later they don't know how to make underground drainage again x🤣🤣🤣

You should laugh at yourself, not the Benin people.

YOU are the one who thinks whites came to 'civilise' you, so where is the evidence of their 'civilisation'? Why do you have open gutters everywhere? Precolonial Benin City not only had underground drainage, their city was planned MATHEMATICALLY, with African fractal mathematics unknown to Europe when they invaded.

In fact, they built their houses with no doors, because ''theft was unknown''.

According to the UK Guardian:

''With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China, Benin City was one of the best planned cities in the world when London was a place of ‘thievery and murder’'.

The Guinness Book of Records (1974 edition) described the walls of Benin City and its surrounding kingdom as the world’s largest earthworks carried out prior to the mechanical era. According to estimates by the New Scientist’s Fred Pearce, Benin City’s walls were at one point “four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops”.

Situated on a plain, Benin City was enclosed by massive walls in the south and deep ditches in the north. Beyond the city walls, numerous further walls were erected that separated the surroundings of the capital into around 500 distinct villages.

Pearce writes that these walls “extended for some 16,000 km in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They covered 6,500 sq km and were all dug by the Edo people … They took an estimated 150 million hours ...to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet”.


Benin City was also one of the first cities to have a semblance of street lighting. Huge metal lamps, many feet high, were built and placed around the city, especially near the king’s palace. Fuelled by palm oil, their burning wicks were lit at night to provide illumination for traffic to and from the palace.

When the Portuguese first “discovered” the city in 1485, they were stunned to find this vast kingdom made of hundreds of interlocked cities and villages in the middle of the African jungle. They called it the “Great City of Benin”,... Indeed, they classified Benin City as one of the most beautiful and best planned cities in the world.''

In 1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”

In contrast, London at the same time is described by Bruce Holsinger, professor of English at the University of Virginia, as being a city of “thievery, prostitution, murder, bribery and a thriving black market made the medieval city ripe for exploitation by those with a skill for the quick blade or picking a pocket”.

African fractals

Benin City’s planning and design was done according to careful rules of symmetry, proportionality and repetition now known as fractal design. The mathematician Ron Eglash, author of African Fractals – which examines the patterns underpinning architecture, art and design in many parts of Africa – notes that the city and its surrounding villages were purposely laid out to form perfect fractals, with similar shapes repeated in the rooms of each house, and the house itself, and the clusters of houses in the village in mathematically predictable patterns.

As he puts it: “When Europeans first came to Africa, they considered the architecture very disorganised and thus primitive. It never occurred to them that the Africans might have been using a form of mathematics that they hadn’t even discovered yet.”

At the centre of the city stood the king’s court, from which extended 30 very straight, broad streets, each about 120-ft wide. These main streets, which ran at right angles to each other, had underground drainage made of a sunken impluvium with an outlet to carry away storm water. Many narrower side and intersecting streets extended off them. In the middle of the streets were turf on which animals fed.

“Houses are built alongside the streets in good order, the one close to the other,” writes the 17th-century Dutch visitor Olfert Dapper. “Adorned with gables and steps … they are usually broad with long galleries inside, especially so in the case of the houses of the nobility, and divided into many rooms which are separated by walls made of red clay, very well erected.”

Dapper adds that wealthy residents kept these walls “as shiny and smooth by washing and rubbing as any wall in Holland can be made with chalk, and they are like mirrors. The upper storeys are made of the same sort of clay. Moreover, every house is provided with a well for the supply of fresh water”.

At the height of its greatness in the 12th century – well before the start of the European Renaissance – the kings and nobles of Benin City patronised craftsmen and lavished them with gifts and wealth, in return for their depiction of the kings’ and dignitaries’ great exploits in intricate bronze sculptures.

“These works from Benin are equal to the very finest examples of European casting technique,” wrote Professor Felix von Luschan, formerly of the Berlin Ethnological Museum. “Benvenuto Celini could not have cast them better, nor could anyone else before or after him. Technically, these bronzes represent the very highest possible achievement.”

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

So the people who bombarded and destroyed this ^^^ glorious city and evidence of our High civilisation, have NOT apologised to you for their heinous act of barbarism and hate.

Why are you naming that place 'Victoria island' in their honour?

Please Does Benin as a country has any affiliation with Benin in Nigeria?

Tohsynetita1:
Please Does Benin as a country has any affiliation with Benin in Nigeria?

Well no, Benin Republic was not politically part of the Benin Kingdom, but the two were connected through geography, culture, trade, and a shared cosmological world. Europeans fixed the name “Bight of Benin” to the entire coastline because the Oba’s kingdom dominated their imagination.

The Benin kingdom was very powerful, with a big army of around 200,000 troops, half of them cavalry.

They were highly feared by the Portuguese and Dutch for centuries!


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Later on, the nation of Dahomey chose the name 'Benin' in 1975 to inherit that aura.

Victoria Island stays! Very soon you guys will say let's change Lagos.
Why not start from the name Nigeria?

LagosOrigin:
I thought you guys said that Yoruba and benin were brothers and that Ooni of Ife migrated from ancient benin kingdom.

Who is this one again ?😂😂

zeuss:
So is it Igbo name that is the problem? We might as well stop being a nation. Let's find comfort

The inferiority and persecution complexes must show 😂😂
Wetin concern Igbo with Ibrahim or even the thread entirely

Kemetian:
So annoying and irritating to see the nicest part of Lagos named after Queen Victoria, a racist invader and thief who presided over the invasion, bombardment and destruction of Great Benin in 1897, burning the city down and looting the Oba's palace after its bombardment.

Benin city had multi-storeyed residences and public monuments, had underground drainage and streetlights 300 years before London. The Benin kingdom had a wall that was 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China. Only visible in rural areas now, with the British having destroyed the grand walls around the city proper.

Today the famous Benin bronzes are displayed in museums across Europe and are in private collections, sold for millions of dollars.

Now tell me something.

Have the British ever apologised to you for what they did?

What are you doing naming your best area in your biggest city ''Victoria Island''?

For what?

What does 'Victoria' have to do with that place?

I've never seen a country in Africa that needs an IBRAHIM TRAORE like Nigeria,

Why GOD sent him to Burkina Faso instead of Nigeria, I will never know.

Pitiful.

They were busy changing street names and left the ones that took them as slaves.

Divide and rule

[quote author=Kemetian post=136658961][/quote]I saw where you wrote that houses were built with no doors. If there were no thieves, what about animals? Ancient people always had doors on their houses

givedemwotowoto:
I saw where you wrote that houses were built with no doors. If there were no thieves, what about animals? Ancient people always had doors on their houses

Oga this is the ancient testimony from Europeans who were there an saw it with their own eyes koroko.

Didn't you read the article? What are you arguing about?

This is eyewitness testimony, admissible in any court of law today.

Maybe they had a way of keeping animals out. Have you researched it?

We had all kinds of indigenous technology back then that was suppressed by colonialists.

You won't see those tribal warriors changing street/area names they're actually supposed to change. It's the ones discovered by people from other places that they'd rush to change.

Kemetian:
So annoying and irritating to see the nicest part of Lagos named after Queen Victoria, a racist invader and thief who presided over the invasion, bombardment and destruction of Great Benin in 1897, burning the city down and looting the Oba's palace after its bombardment.

Benin city had multi-storeyed residences and public monuments, had underground drainage and streetlights 300 years before London. The Benin kingdom had a wall that was 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China. Only visible in rural areas now, with the British having destroyed the grand walls around the city proper.

Today the famous Benin bronzes are displayed in museums across Europe and are in private collections, sold for millions of dollars.

Now tell me something.

Have the British ever apologised to you for what they did?

What are you doing naming your best area in your biggest city ''Victoria Island''?

For what?

What does 'Victoria' have to do with that place?

I've never seen a country in Africa that needs an IBRAHIM TRAORE like Nigeria,

Why GOD sent him to Burkina Faso instead of Nigeria, I will never know.

Pitiful.

Why you no change am to Tinubu Island

You go cry tire. Many African countries have changed their names or renamed places named after colonialists yet they have not developed one bit. The Portuguese named Lagos, its still in use today. The locals in Victoria island know it as IRU land ( ruled by oniru) and have no issue with the official name Victoria island. So who the hell are you?

WesleyPepper:
The inferiority and persecution complexes must show 😂😂
Wetin concern Igbo with Ibrahim or even the thread entirely

Strong Igbo man inferior to a quota system product....... 🤡....as a matter of National policy Igbo are expecting to and have always score higher to attain the same goals, Igbo are also expected to develop their region which they also do along with their host regions....it obviously a superior group lumpd with the rest ....,.if Ibrahim or Victoria is better than Eze in Lagos even after Eze opened up his street as the first structure erected or honored for providing the access road, can have the recognition rescinded in his own country but Arabic and English names are retained to the applause of quota over merit advocates, think of your future.

ednut1:
You go cry tire. Many African countries have changed their names or renamed places named after colonialists yet they have not developed one bit.

Who told you they have ''not developed one bit''? Name the place. What do you know about Africa? You think we are talking about CNN or BBC version of Africa? What do you KNOW about Africa outside that garbage on CNN and western media?

The Portuguese named Lagos, its still in use today. The locals in Victoria island know it as IRU land ( ruled by oniru) and have no issue with the official name Victoria island. So who the hell are you?

I guarantee you that within the next 5 years the name of ''Victoria Island'' will be changed to an AFRICAN name.

Wanna bet?

Have white people named their best neighbourhood after you?

Kemetian:
Who told you they have ''not developed one bit''? Name the place. What do you know about Africa? You think we are talking about CNN or BBC version of Africa? What do you KNOW about Africa outside that garbage on CNN and western media?



I guarantee you that within the next 5 years the name of ''Victoria Island'' will be changed to an AFRICAN name.

Wanna bet?

Have white people named their best neighbourhood after you?

you can google the African countries that have changed names. Britain as used currently was given to them by the Romans who colonized them for 400 years. They never changed the name and became world power themselves. Development of a country is not by name.

Gold coast was changed to Ghana ( an empire in present day mali/ Senegal) . Dahomey changed to Benin(an empire based in present day Nigeria). Both countries named after empires that has nothing to do with them. Abeg go rest

SarkinYarki:
Benin had underground drainages? 🤣🤣 Yet 2000 years later they don't know how to make underground drainage again x🤣🤣🤣

Don't mind the ... what a senseless statement

Well, so long there’s nothing like Chukwu Amaka attached to the name, everywhere good..

zeuss:
So is it Igbo name that is the problem? We might as well stop being a nation. Let's find comfort

You’ll have to go wake Nnamdi Azikwe from the grave. He was the one that was shouting one Nigeria then..

Christistruth03:
Queen Victoria was a good friend of the Yoruba Nation who helped to end the Kiriji Wars , save Yorubas being carried off to slavery , ended the slave trade and even adopted a Yoruba girl (Aina Bonetta Forbes) as her daughter

Victoria Island Stays

God bless you, plus they don't have the right to tell people what name to give their cities, thats how they changed Port Harcourt to one stupid sounding name like that.. Very annoying.

PulaPower:
You’ll have to go wake Nnamdi Azikwe from the grave. He was the one that was shouting one Nigeria then..

He had no idea about the nature and character of others. Probably turning in his grave.