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Gucciboy:
Facts doesn't care about emotions.

akwesenana:
A world class player walks into any team's first eleven without competition.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yamal is 18.

What should be the World class stat for an 18 year old?[/color]

AirBere:
Well, to each their own. For me, I define a world class player as someone who can join the best teams like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Liverpool, Chelsea, PSG, City, Arsenal, etc and improve their performance immediately and may be, win major trophies.

A player who was world class in the past can stop being world class due to injuries, age, etc. for that, I don't consider KDB and Greizman world class anymore. They were world class but not anymore. I don't think both can be nailed on starters for the best teams around the Globe right now. KDB won't start at PSG or City right now.

Isak is the closest to what will be world class on that list. If he join Una club right now, he starts immediately, no questions asked.

akwesenana:
A world class player walks into any team's first eleven without competition.

raumdeuter:
Not always true that requires context. Neuer Cortouis Allison Degea Buffon at their peak can be called world class but they cannot all enter a team just like Haaland, Lewandowski Kane cannot enter the same team

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The potential is my point.

He shared a list of young players. A 28 years old is the oldest there. How can you say there's no World class player there, even though we know time can change it or not?

People break sporting records at 18, 20, 21. What years of consistency do you think they have?

Yamal is a World class player as at today. Over time, he will prove it with stats.[/color]

AirBere:
In addition to that, Mbeumo for example will start at Madrid. He's better than whatever they've got on the right hand side and he's not world class yet.

The world class thing requires alot of context. If the idea is to continue with Mbape as a 9 then Isak doesn't start at Madrid but he easily starts at Barca, Liverpool. If Mbape is pushed to the left wing and Vini to the right then he starts there.

No pairing right now is better than Saliba/Gabriel yet there are lots of world class CBs that won't even get a sniff at arsenal but tha doesn't mean they're not world class.

Context plenty.

StarchAndBanga:
Nothing person no go read for Nairaland..

Hazard at Chelsea was not world class coming from a supposed Chelsea fan

raumdeuter:
I want to differ on the bold, World class is not what you hold for life, every world class player will taper off at some point and not be world class anymore. R9 and Dinho while playing for AC Milan or Flamengo were not world class any longer but no one will doubt at their peak they were world class

IMO what matters is that at their peak they were world class and no one cares what KdB Griezzman Neuer etc are doing now when they are past their peak just like with Boatank

Realtord43:
People will just use World class on players because the have a good few seasons.


exceptional skill, unparalleled consistency over time, the ability to perform at their peak in high-pressure situations, and a profound impact on their team's success.

See the bolded, that is what define a world class players for me, you must peak for at least 5yrs in performance, stats wise, your numbers should not diminished, set a record, break a record or match your record.

Consistently is key to reach that World class status. Just two good yrs cannot give a player a World class status, people saying Isak, Wirtz and Caicedo are world class is quite bizarre, just two good season is not enough to get a world class shout.

MorataFC:
Saying a player must play at their peak for five years before we call them world-class is too strict. In today’s football, world-class means being one of the best in your position right now, not after serving time. With stats and tough competitions to judge from, it’s easier to spot when a player is already performing at the very top level.

A world-class player should be judged by their numbers, how well they perform in big games, and how much they improve their team. Some players can show this in just one or two seasons, especially if they are playing in the best leagues or major tournaments.

Also, not every world-class player has to break records. You can be world-class without breaking a single record, does it mean a striker has to score 91 goals in a calendar year like Messi before he can be called world-class? Definitely not. Defenders, midfielders, and playmakers can be world-class because they control games, stop opponents, or create chances that change results. Consistency truly matters, but world-class is really about beinh among the best in the world at your time, and players can prove that without waiting for donkey years.

Realtord43:
If you are saying a player is World class, then the stats is there to prove it already and his performance over a time. I don't see how a world class class will need time to prove that he is truly a world class player.

I think maybe if you use the word World class prodigy, then you may be right. Remember, Ansu fati was already getting world class shouts from Barca fans before his injuries crisis. Potentials to be a world class was there for all to see but he couldn't live to it. This are the issues why consistency is key, one don't know what may happen.

But if you insist Yamal is already world class, that's fine.

MorataFC:
Saying a player must play at their peak for five years before we call them world-class is too strict. In today’s football, world-class means being one of the best in your position right now, not after serving time. With stats and tough competitions to judge from, it’s easier to spot when a player is already performing at the very top level.

A world-class player should be judged by their numbers, how well they perform in big games, and how much they improve their team. Some players can show this in just one or two seasons, especially if they are playing in the best leagues or major tournaments.

Also, not every world-class player has to break records. You can be world-class without breaking a single record, does it mean a striker has to score 91 goals in a calendar year like Messi before he can be called world-class? Definitely not. Defenders, midfielders, and playmakers can be world-class because they control games, stop opponents, or create chances that change results. Consistency truly matters, but world-class is really about beinh among the best in the world at your time, and players can prove that without waiting for donkey years.

AirBere:
Well, to each their own. For me, I define a world class player as someone who can join the best teams like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Liverpool, Chelsea, PSG, City, Arsenal, etc and improve their performance immediately and may be, win major trophies.

A player who was world class in the past can stop being world class due to injuries, age, etc. for that, I don't consider KDB and Greizman world class anymore. They were world class but not anymore. I don't think both can be nailed on starters for the best teams around the Globe right now. KDB won't start at PSG or City right now.

Isak is the closest to what will be world class on that list. If he join Una club right now, he starts immediately, no questions asked.

You are right about one thing:- "currently start",but will you say Modrić and Iniesta ain't World class too?Even if they're getting on in years which is expected,you can't take away what they've done,their achievements and consistency has cemented them as World'c, legends, for sure.

As for Isak, he's just beginning to develop. For starters, he hasn't even entered the conversation for the Ballon d'Or or earned significant personal records yet. Grammatically/logically, any good player could be considered world-class, but in football, the general consensus is that consistency (like Realtord said, at least 5 seasons), being among the top 1-3 players in his position globally(Maybe he gat this), achieving personal records, and achieving success for his team are necessary to be considered world-class.

Realtord43:
People will just use World class on players because the have a good few seasons.


exceptional skill, unparalleled consistency over time, the ability to perform at their peak in high-pressure situations, and a profound impact on their team's success.

See the bolded, that is what define a world class players for me, you must peak for at least 5yrs in performance, stats wise, your numbers should not diminished, set a record, break a record or match your record.

Consistently is key to reach that World class status. Just two good yrs cannot give a player a World class status, people saying Isak, Wirtz and Caicedo are world class is quite bizarre, just two good season is not enough to get a world class shout.

Gucciboy:
Barca fans will disagree with you

AirBere:
Yamal for me is world class simply because he'll be the first name on the team sheet of any team you can think of right now. Players, fans, managers are already seeing him as the best or one of the very best.

For Spain, he's their best player after Rodri. For Barca, he's outrightly thier best player right now.

Of course it's subjective so to each, their own.

MorataFC:
Saying a player must play at their peak for five years before we call them world-class is too strict. In today’s football, world-class means being one of the best in your position right now, not after serving time. With stats and tough competitions to judge from, it’s easier to spot when a player is already performing at the very top level.

A world-class player should be judged by their numbers, how well they perform in big games, and how much they improve their team. Some players can show this in just one or two seasons, especially if they are playing in the best leagues or major tournaments.

Also, not every world-class player has to break records. You can be world-class without breaking a single record, does it mean a striker has to score 91 goals in a calendar year like Messi before he can be called world-class? Definitely not. Defenders, midfielders, and playmakers can be world-class because they control games, stop opponents, or create chances that change results. Consistency truly matters, but world-class is really about beinh among the best in the world at your time, and players can prove that without waiting for donkey years.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]World class is a potential, and not seasons upon seasons.

If the potential is there, the person can be World class, and time will prove it.

Ronaldo was already World class in Manchester United.[/color]

raumdeuter:
I want to differ on the bold, World class is not what you hold for life, every world class player will taper off at some point and not be world class anymore. R9 and Dinho while playing for AC Milan or Flamengo were not world class any longer but no one will doubt at their peak they were world class

IMO what matters is that at their peak they were world class and no one cares what KdB Griezzman Neuer etc are doing now when they are past their peak just like with Boatank

Gucciboy:
This emotional conclusion because if ansu fati should happen on yamal you wouldn't be saying this any longer.

He's still a good kid not world class

akwesenana:
A world class player walks into any team's first eleven without competition.

AirBere:
Emotional lol 😂😂. I have no connection with Yamal. I'm telling you what Palmer a fellow professional and older player than him said.

Name one team you feel Yamal won't start lol. A player who started and was key in a Euro win. I no want hype anyone but in my books he's world class and will improve any team..

Again, to each, their own.

AirBere:
Yamal for me is world class simply because he'll be the first name on the team sheet of any team you can think of right now. Players, fans, managers are already seeing him as the best or one of the very best.

For Spain, he's their best player after Rodri. For Barca, he's outrightly thier best player right now.

Of course it's subjective so to each, their own.

swiz123:
Wrong. A potential world class player can attain a world class status if they are consistent and win important trophies with their performance being integral to the team’s success.

So it isn’t a potential, it is a status.

swiz123:
You are highly correct. I have schooled Popizaino on this but he is very stubborn. A player might be good at farming stats but choke when the career defining situations arises. Saka is a solid candidate here.

Some players show world class potentials but would later just fall off. That is why consistency is prerequisite.

Realtord43:
Where you around during Ansu fati era?

That should answer your question why you shouldn't be in a rush to Rate a player with less than 5 seasons to his name.

Ansu fati was so good then, some were saying he will surpass Messi Career, his potentials was so high then just like Yamal.

Let not rush Yamal yet because I believe there is more to come from him and he hasn't peak fully yet.

AirBere:
You do realise that nobody ever said this right?

Fati was a center forward in the academy and made his name as a left winger. He was nothing like Messi, didn't have enough pace, was a weak dribbler. His style of play is like that of Gakpo, Rodrigo who are goal scoring wingers. He was nothing like Messi in terms of career trajectory. Yamal actually has something in common with Messi though.

yes he had the potential to be world-class but nobody said the emboldened. Without injuries may be he could have become something very big. Who knows??

AirBere:
How do you quantify a world class player? Everybody has their own metric but I think a world class player should be that player that can start for any team in the world and improve performance immediately. In that case, Isak ticks all the boxes so I consider him world class from that list. You can also add Osimehn but that'll be debatable by some.

AirBere:
You do realise that nobody ever said this right?

Fati was a center forward in the academy and made his name as a left winger. He was nothing like Messi,

Tellwhat:
In a short span Fati has given me so much joy. I don't think there's any upcoming player that excites me more than him. When I look at fati I feel like I'm looking at a player similar to Messi/Ronaldinho etc. That's exciting and also delivers

I just hope he reaches his fully potentials


I dey pray make injury no ruin that boy. I value him more than any Barca player and infact in my head I can't really trade him for any other youngster granted he's healthy and retains same form.. fati has what it takes to eventually or soon be in the same league as Mbappe and Haaland

Great100000:
He can also be new Guardiola...

Ansu Fati can be little bit of New Messi

Wishing him best of luck.