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Realtord43:
🚨 BREAKING: Chelsea’s UCL squad :

Sanchez, Jorgensen, Cucurella, Tosin, Badiashile, Colwill, Hato, Chalobah, James, Gusto, Fofana, Fernandez, Palmer, Gittens, Essugo, Santos, Caicedo, Neto, Delap, Joao Pedro, Guiu, Estevao, Garnacho.

So Lavia won't be fit enough to make our UCL squad.

There's a list B

Ibime:
A world Class player is one that can make a first team squad of the world - if you select 22 players in the world for a squad, he will be among

Hazard was never in a World squad but came close

Embarrassing opinion.

Who were those players better than him during his peak.

Realtord43:
🚨 BREAKING: Chelsea’s UCL squad :

Sanchez, Jorgensen, Cucurella, Tosin, Badiashile, Colwill, Hato, Chalobah, James, Gusto, Fofana, Fernandez, Palmer, Gittens, Essugo, Santos, Caicedo, Neto, Delap, Joao Pedro, Guiu, Estevao, Garnacho.

So Lavia won't be fit enough to make our UCL squad.

This is the UEFA A list. He's on the B list, as is Tyrique George and Josh Acheampong.


The person wey I never confirm him status na Facundo Buonanotte

DeeScan:
Sentiments apart, yes!!!

You are quite funny, how would you rate Diaz as highly as a world class player while you see Saka as not.

Mind you, I don't rate both players as world class, but I think Saka is better than Diaz.

Quick question..
.is Reece James world class??

Enzo5:
There's a list B

But is not quite worrisome that a player of his quality can't make the A list team. I don't even see him as a Chelsea player again

Unlimited22:
This is the UEFA A list. He's on the B list, as is Tyrique George and Josh Acheampong.


The person wey I never confirm him status na Facundo Buonanotte

Ok, but it shows his injuries is a big concern reason why he can't make the A list. See Cowill for example

Realtord43:
You are quite funny, how would you rate Diaz as highly as a world class player while you see Saka as not.

Mind you, I don't rate both players as world class, but I think Saka is better than Diaz.

Let's simplify it

Versatility - Diaz edges saka

Take ons one on one - Diaz edges saka

Big game performance - on par

Work rate - Diaz edges saka

Goal and assist - okay saka edges Diaz slightly

Saka is the main boy, so yeah he gets set up to score but assists wise they're on par ..

Saka would edge Diaz on assist last season cause he was mostly used out of position ..


If we go about this without sentiments, we would see reason why overall Diaz is up there above saka ..

If we put saka in a team where there are other Starboy, let's say a team like Mardrid, he no go shine ..

Realtord43:
Where you around during Ansu fati era?

That should answer your question why you shouldn't be in a rush to Rate a player with less than 5 seasons to his name.

Ansu fati was so good then, some were saying he will surpass Messi Career, his potentials was so high then just like Yamal.

Let not rush Yamal yet because I believe there is more to come from him and he hasn't peak fully yet.

Football isn’t an exam where you must wait five years for validation before grading a player’s quality. The game is judged in the present, and players are assessed by what they deliver on the pitch week in, week out. That’s why the Ballon d’Or is awarded every year. If Barcelona had won the UCL, Yamal would have been in the top 5 for the Ballon dor. Would you then say he should wait another four seasons before being considered a candidate?

Yamal’s 2024/25 season wasn’t about potential,it was about output, 17 Man of the Match awards across competitions, decisive performances in big games, and carrying Barcelona when it mattered most. That’s not hype and it's not fluke, that’s world class performance.

And look at Palmer, his brilliance in the Conference League final saved his team from defeat, and he repeated the same in the Club World Cup final. Those are world-class performances. Yes, there’s a difference between delivering a world-class performance and being a world-class player, but you cannot consistently produce world-class displays for your team without being considered world-class player.

Saying “wait five years before calling them world-class” completely misses the point. World-class status is not about future projections,it’s about current dominance. The Ballon d’Or is not awarded for what you might do in the future, but for what you are doing right now. Players rise and fall, today’s hero may fade tomorrow. That doesn’t erase the fact that they were once world-class. Haaland won nothing last season, that doesn't erase him as a wolrd class striker, there’s no one that can be champion for life, the judgment must always be based on current performance.

If you’re playing for a giant club like Barcelona, deciding big matches, and racking up awards in crucial games, then by every standard of the footballing world, you are already a world-class player.

Ibime:
A world Class player is one that can make a first team squad of the world - if you select 22 players in the world for a squad, he will be among

Hazard was never in a World squad but came close

Hazard was never in that first xi because there was always cronaldo there and sometimes Ribery.

Hazard was a world class player.

DeeScan:
Wait , did I just read someone saying DIAZ is not world class , as in the same Luiz Diaz ..


Name a winger currently better than Luis Diaz ...

Diaz is one of the notable mentions that guide Liverpool to the trophy last season .. In fairness, one would even say he had more impact than Salah as he always has his work rate .. someone that was deployed out of position and still thrive there .. how many of your world class player can play out of position and still thrive there ..


Szobozslai is world class .. who is gonna argue that .. it's not about consistency, it aabout performaning however and whereever you meet yourself and have an impact ..

Diaz is world class anyday anytime .. .Even your mbappe is not consistent

Nikini

Diaz wey no good reach garnacho

so enciso was for less than 10m finally and we are going for emmanuel emegha next summer probably guiu and dastan going to other way

Realtord43:
But is not quite worrisome that a player of his quality can't make the A list team. I don't even see him as a Chelsea player again

it's just a work around uefa rules, fofana and colwill who is injured makes list a because of their age

DeeScan:
mbappe has shown in consistency of lately

Mbappe has been consistent since he started playing professional football

He is the definition of world class and will go down as an all time great

DeeScan:
Quick question..
.is Reece James world class??

Yes, Reece James is a world-class player!

our squad for the season, wishing them the best in form fitness performance and points

Gucciboy:
Real Madrid dream scenario: Guehi + Konaté arrive next season without spending a euro as free agents.

That is what is likely to happen. Guehi will be one of the options for Madrid next season

Upamecano too if he doesnt sign an extension

DeeScan:
Let's simplify it

Versatility - Diaz edges saka

Take ons one on one - Diaz edges saka

Big game performance - on par

Work rate - Diaz edges saka

Goal and assist - okay saka edges Diaz slightly

Saka is the main boy, so yeah he gets set up to score but assists wise they're on par ..

Saka would edge Diaz on assist last season cause he was mostly used out of position ..


If we go about this without sentiments, we would see reason why overall Diaz is up there above saka ..

If we put saka in a team where there are other Starboy, let's say a team like Mardrid, he no go shine ..

Of course, this will be quite logical for you since you are a Liverpool fans. I understand the bias bro.

the one person I listen to with regards to "world class players" is pythagoras and using his standard of evaluation it is based on talent, ability, performance and experience

it's strange some would think saka isn't world class, there are few better rw than him in football

luiz diaz is also world class, he may not be generational but he is world class

a player like joao pedro is worldclass/ucl class, one top season with us will solidify him as world class and make him a starter for Brazil nt

drisham:
Mbappe has been consistent since he started playing professional football

He is the definition of world class and will go down as an all time great

I have been patiently waiting for his response to my question about Mbappe's inconsistencies lately...whatever that means.

The concept of "world-class" is subjective. To be considered world-class, a player must have consistently performed well on the big stage, whether that’s in a top league like the EPL or La Liga, or in the UEFA Champions League (UCL), for at least two seasons. It doesn't necessarily mean they have to win the league or the competition, but they should consistently put in good performances.

Once a player meets these criteria, they can justifiably be considered world-class, as they have demonstrated their ability to compete effectively in any league or competition they participate in.

Note: I intentionally did not include the Italian Serie A, Bundesliga, and Ligue 1 in this discussion, as the overall quality and competition in these leagues are currently several levels below that of the EPL and La Liga. However, players from clubs like Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, and PSG often gain their reputation based on their performances in the UCL, which is where they truly get to showcase their quality.

On a personal note, I think Hazard at his peak was world class because he did it in the EPL which is one of the top leagues around.

raumdeuter:
You dey talk better thing before you come use this bold spoil am

World class player dey get 5 CL goals from open play all career?

Lol 🤣🤣🤣

Enzo5:
our squad for the season, wishing them the best in form fitness performance and points

In maresca we trust

Unlimited22:
This is the UEFA A list. He's on the B list, as is Tyrique George and Josh Acheampong.


The person wey I never confirm him status na Facundo Buonanotte

Buonanotte is not on the list

BlueMann:
Buonanotte is not on the list

Yeah I've now confirmed

MorataFC:
Football isn’t an exam where you must wait five years for validation before grading a player’s quality. The game is judged in the present, and players are assessed by what they deliver on the pitch week in, week out. That’s why the Ballon d’Or is awarded every year. If Barcelona had won the UCL, Yamal would have been in the top 5 for the Ballon dor. Would you then say he should wait another four seasons before being considered a candidate?

Yamal’s 2024/25 season wasn’t about potential,it was about output, 17 Man of the Match awards across competitions, decisive performances in big games, and carrying Barcelona when it mattered most. That’s not hype and it's not fluke, that’s world class performance.

And look at Palmer, his brilliance in the Conference League final saved his team from defeat, and he repeated the same in the Club World Cup final. Those are world-class performances. Yes, there’s a difference between delivering a world-class performance and being a world-class player, but you cannot consistently produce world-class displays for your team without being considered world-class player.

Saying “wait five years before calling them world-class” completely misses the point. World-class status is not about future projections,it’s about current dominance. The Ballon d’Or is not awarded for what you might do in the future, but for what you are doing right now. Players rise and fall, today’s hero may fade tomorrow. That doesn’t erase the fact that they were once world-class. Haaland won nothing last season, that doesn't erase him as a wolrd class striker, there’s no one that can be champion for life, the judgment must always be based on current performance.

If you’re playing for a giant club like Barcelona, deciding big matches, and racking up awards in crucial games, then by every standard of the footballing world, you are already a world-class player.

Honestly, I don't know how to respond to this, but it seems like you already have your own merits on how you see a player as a world class.

I will respect your opinion on this even though you might be wrong

patrickmuf:
The concept of "world-class" is subjective. To be considered world-class, a player must have consistently performed well on the big stage, whether that’s in a top league like the EPL or La Liga, or in the UEFA Champions League (UCL), for at least two seasons. It doesn't necessarily mean they have to win the league or the competition, but they should consistently put in good performances.

Once a player meets these criteria, they can justifiably be considered world-class, as they have demonstrated their ability to compete effectively in any league or competition they participate in.

Note: I intentionally did not include the Italian Serie A, Bundesliga, and Ligue 1 in this discussion, as the overall quality and competition in these leagues are currently several levels below that of the EPL and La Liga. However, players from clubs like Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, and PSG often gain their reputation based on their performances in the UCL, which is where they truly get to showcase their quality.

On a personal note, I think Hazard at his peak was world class because he did it in the EPL which is one of the top leagues around.

The bolded is the truth

swiz123:
Embarrassing opinion.

Who were those players better than him during his peak.

4 wing positions

Ronaldo, Messi lock 2

Neymar, Salah, Ribery, Robben lock the other 2 positions at various stages of his career

Hazard UCL record is too disgraceful to put him in World 11

Ihebu4chelsea:
There are few world class players available at the moment.

Agreed

Slot leaving chiesa out of the squad is no brainer ..

What's the point if a three goal keeper ..



This people with bald head and over thinking... .. it's not surprising they're bald ..

DeeScan:
Wait , did I just read someone saying DIAZ is not world class , as in the same Luiz Diaz ..


Name a winger currently better than Luis Diaz ...

Diaz is one of the notable mentions that guide Liverpool to the trophy last season .. In fairness, one would even say he had more impact than Salah as he always has his work rate .. someone that was deployed out of position and still thrive there .. how many of your world class player can play out of position and still thrive there ..


Szobozslai is world class .. who is gonna argue that .. it's not about consistency, it aabout performaning however and whereever you meet yourself and have an impact ..

Diaz is world class anyday anytime .. .Even your mbappe is not consistent

Lmao

Roland17:
Irrespective of the metric used, we can all agree Mbappe is world class, right?

E get anybody wey wan argue mbappe ?