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Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by opamoses1: 6:45am On Sep 07, 2025
DesChyko:
I fondly remember one of our neighbours. In the Estate I live, we call him Baba. Like others before him, he sold and left Lagos.

The house was sold to an Igbo man and is now renovated and rented out to three Igbo families. It was his retirement wish, I guess.
LMAO. Another lamba.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by overall90: 6:47am On Sep 07, 2025
Instead of writing all these trash, why don't you people advocate for the break up of this country so that everyone can keep what he has.
How is that difficult?
And why is the black man is so stupid?
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by DesChyko: 6:49am On Sep 07, 2025
opamoses1:
LMAO. Another lamba.
Well, we shall be here when you will likely sell yours, if you haven't already.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 6:50am On Sep 07, 2025
chopnaira:
Peter obi is the tribal bigot.
2011
2013
2015

Ps: Lagos is still atleast 80% dominated by the Yorubas. Go to any primary or secondary school in Lagos, Yoruba kids make up more than 80% of the classroom.

Even in Agege, were Hausas are in large numbers, Yoruba still make up more than 80%. The only place where Yoruba would be like 70% is only Okota and Festac.

OP is day dreaming and trying to use reverse psychology. He is not even Yoruba to begin with.
Why is having a decent conversation hard? Must everything to you be tribalism or we against them mentality?
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 6:52am On Sep 07, 2025
overall90:
Instead of writing all these trash, why don't you people advocate for the break up of this country so that everyone can keep what he has.
How is that difficult?
And why is the black man is so stupid?
There
Who will advocate? Those that are advocating are they not imprisoned? The Igbo have advocated that for 50yrs ! Maybe you can take up the baton and do that

Left for me...it's better to be together... The Nigerian market us huge! Over 200 million and it takes a smart businessman to be making it in Nigeria Lagos inclusively
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 6:54am On Sep 07, 2025
chopnaira:
I am from Ishaga. Went to school in Agege. And grew up on college road. Yorubas still dominate in extremely large numbers from Ogba all the way to Agege and Oshodi.
The only time yoi see hausa coming out in large numbers is when its time to go to mosque on Friday and most importantly, Hausas don't interfere in Lagos politics or form a voting block to determine who governs where in Lagos.


You now want to teach me the origin of the name of my village. Another proof that you dont know what you are talking about.

Ishaga is an Egbado word. Egbado people are in present day Ogun state.
Noted...it's a Yoruba name! Okay can we move on and have some decent conversation...are you trying to say that Hausa isn't spoken prominently in Agege, ishaga isn't even Agege to start with its outskirts

I am talking Pen Cinema axis
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by teresafaith: 9:31am On Sep 07, 2025
Most times it happens when the owner has too many wives and children. Some factions want to sell while, some doesn't want to.
There's a family house in our area that has been left abandoned for almost 10years now due to the fact that the man kids wants to sell it but the siblings of the man refused because it's their father's house. They've been dragging themselves to court since then.

The problem with yorubas on nairaland is they believe every conversation about yorubas is they are being attacked, someone is advising you about the consequences of selling your children futures you are already turning it to ibo vs yoruba.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 9:40am On Sep 07, 2025
teresafaith:
Most times it happens when the owner has too many wives and children. Some factions want to sell while, some doesn't want to.
There's a family house in our area that has been left abandoned for almost 10years now due to the fact that the man kids wants to sell it but the siblings of the man refused because it's their father's house. They've been dragging themselves to court since then.

The problem with yorubas on nairaland is they believe every conversation about yorubas is they are being attacked, someone is advising you about the consequences of selling your children futures you are already turning it to ibo vs yoruba.
You are right ..the few ones that are sold the man married many wives and it became contentious so to avoid wahala...sell the house and share the money then everyone goes their way
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by Nobody: 9:45am On Sep 07, 2025
For those that chestbeat here, nobody will leave his hard earned wealth and properties for you for free. If you want your land back, buy it back or relocate to Ekiti state. Shikena. My wayward uncle once sold our family land back in the late 90s to an Anambra man, my father had to buy it back from the man and he had to even borrow from friends to complete the money.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by ednut1(m): 10:19am On Sep 07, 2025
Mumu talk. They didn’t sell it . All lands on lagos are under 99 years lease. In every country there is a commercial hub which most is bought over by non indigenes or rich people in the country. Make una rest
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by LZAA: 10:58am On Sep 07, 2025
Kc3000:
There's nothing worth discussing here. Anywhere in the world where you have a metropolis, you have people of diverse backgrounds settling in a location with some resultant displacement of indigenous communities. There's nothing necessarily malicious about it, it's a process that's driven by economic realities.

This is nothing unique to Lagos, it's true anywhere a city springs up in the world. I'm from the Ngwa clan in Alaigbo, Aba is in Ngwa land, most of the inhabitants of modern Aba are from other Igbo clans and non-Igbos. The Aba metropolis keeps expanding to adjacent Ngwa communities, we're not crying about it, we don't moan every day that we developed Aba by ourselves, because that would be a blatant lie.

Any city you go to in Nigeria, or in the world for that matter, it's someone's ancestral that others, Yoruba included, have come to settle in.

I find it quite foolish that some yoruba continually moan uncontrollably about other Nigerians living in Lagos, given that yoruba live freely in other Nigerian cities without harassment.

Personally, I don't pay them any mind, I don't acknowledge their gaslighting techniques and blatant lies like 'oh they do not respect the host community, they interfered in our politics'. It's all pre-packaged tribalism and they know it.

No, I'm not remorseful that all Nigerians get to live in Lagos, or any other city in the world.
Nobody really takes them serious
Think of it as a circus filled with clowns moaning about everything
Fantastic birds these lot😄
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by LZAA: 11:00am On Sep 07, 2025
Nonexisting1:
For those that chestbeat here, nobody will leave his hard earned wealth and properties for you for free. If you want your land back, buy it back or relocate to Ekiti state. Shikena. My wayward uncle once sold our family land back in the late 90s to an Anambra man, my father had to buy it back from the man and he had to even borrow from friends to complete the money.
Gbam!
You can't collect money to do owambe then complain that they are cheating you na grin
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 11:29am On Sep 07, 2025
Nonexisting1:
For those that chestbeat here, nobody will leave his hard earned wealth and properties for you for free. If you want your land back, buy it back or relocate to Ekiti state. Shikena. My wayward uncle once sold our family land back in the late 90s to an Anambra man, my father had to buy it back from the man and he had to even borrow from friends to complete the money.
Your father did the right thing... That was noble...

What happened to the said uncle ? What did he do with the money?
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 11:31am On Sep 07, 2025
ednut1:
Mumu talk. They didn’t sell it . All lands on lagos are under 99 years lease. In every country there is a commercial hub which most is bought over by non indigenes or rich people in the country. Make una rest
how many of us will still be alone in the next 99yrs ...

Do you know if the society will change by then and with the way this is happening...I doubt in the next 99yrs if the language and culture of Lagos would not change
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by ednut1(m): 12:49pm On Sep 07, 2025
christopher123:
how many of us will still be alone in the next 99yrs ...

Do you know if the society will change by then and with the way this is happening...I doubt in the next 99yrs if the language and culture of Lagos would not change
what is lagos culture? 150 years ago. It was yoruba, saro/aguda( returnee slaves), British colonialist etc. majority of the deltans, igbos, Hausas in lagos can speak yoruba. When there is oro do other tribes not comply? The kingships are still held by Yorubas. Many settlers in Lagos have gone back to their own towns/villages to take royal positions etc.

Come 100 years nothing wil change
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 1:09pm On Sep 07, 2025
ednut1:
what is lagos culture? 150 years ago. It was yoruba, saro/aguda( returnee slaves), British colonialist etc. majority of the deltans, igbos, Hausas in lagos can speak yoruba. When there is oro do other tribes not comply? The kingships are still held by Yorubas. Many settlers in Lagos have gone back to their own towns/villages to take royal positions etc.

Come 100 years nothing wil change
Societies evolve....300 yrs ago...the Red Indians culture was predominant in Washington DC and New York as the immigrant started coming in ...there was dynamic of culture .. and today you don't have red Indians culture I New York today they are only in reservation.

This will happen in Lagos ! As people arw selling their houses and moving into hinterland

It happens in any metro... In Sydney Australia it was the Aborigines! Today we don't have them they are in reservations ...as the society grew


Same is Abuja ..it used to be Gwari culture today it has evolved ! And also not even everywhere so they do that Oro of a thing in Lagos ..it can't be done in SATELLITE TOWN, FESTAC, AGEGE (HAUSA AXIS) LEKKI, AJAH, IKOYI , BANANA ISLAND, FORESHORE AND ORO ISNT DONE IN places that was bought by foreigners...

Oro is done in these yoruba areas like Ikorodu, Ketu (to an extent ) etc

It's a matter of time the Oro will stop. .no culture is stagnant! It evolves either by man made or by situation
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by DMerciful(m): 1:15pm On Sep 07, 2025
Its just a matter of time, Lagos would be too expensive for the indigenes and they'll move out. Lagos as a cosmopolitan city will eventually belong to the rich from all nationalities
aswani:
The idiocy is crying over and over again because Ndi Yoruba are changing street names in Ala Yoruba.

Not long ago, Lagos state was sending non Yoruba people tó Abuja, Lagos State State house in Alausa had non Yoruba elected officials.

Now, there is no such variance and openness, yet you are talking about them asserting ownership., they already have.

You that you are buying their property, left right and centre, where is your dominance or how soon will it manifest into numbers, votes and a return to non Yorùbá's in Alausa and Abuja on behalf of Lagos state?

Rest, Lagos State is still Yorubaland.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by DMerciful(m): 1:18pm On Sep 07, 2025
Lagos is strategic because of the ports
Ezewuzie01:
Lagos should watch it. The speed with which Abuja is growing, Lagos may take the passenger's seat in a decade or two.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by DMerciful(m): 1:22pm On Sep 07, 2025
You read his insightful post but think emotional tribalistic response coupled with delusions of grandeur is what ought to be your strategic countermeasure?

Truth is nothing can stop the slipping of Lagos from the hands of tribal Yorubas because the development that you seek for Lagos means it becomes attractive for all esp when the resources for this development does not come from within
Ttalk:
Hausa is now the linqua franca in Agege? We don hear, we will make the correction in due course, Tinubu is the one delaying our actions, we won't allowed you to contaminate our peace because you are incapable of creating peaceful atmosphere in your region.

FG / President don't issue C of O, even C of O can be revoked at any given time. All lands in Nigeria is under the control of the state government. The indigenous people of the Lagos have been pushed to the wall and the soul and spirits of our forefather have cursed anyone who benefit from Lagos but want it's downfall.
So shall it be
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by aswani(m): 1:30pm On Sep 07, 2025
It will take at leat 10 generations before Lagos slips away from Ndi Yoruba.

Look at all this time Ndigbo were block voting in Lagos, a few of them got to State House and went to Abuja.

Just this one time, in the last LG elections, that Ndi Yoruba decided to block vote for a change, as a result of Obidients lack of decorum, see what happened.

Sadly there is more of this to come, Ndi Yoruba have the numbers and will do so for a long time yet. Don't forget the only people coming to Lagos to settle for good nowadays are Yoruba, other tribes are simply using it as a stepping stone to go abroad.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by chopnaira: 2:30pm On Sep 07, 2025
ednut1:
what is lagos culture? 150 years ago. It was yoruba, saro/aguda( returnee slaves), British colonialist etc. majority of the deltans, igbos, Hausas in lagos can speak yoruba. When there is oro do other tribes not comply? The kingships are still held by Yorubas. Many settlers in Lagos have gone back to their own towns/villages to take royal positions etc.

Come 100 years nothing wil change
Op is just deceiving himself. Not to be taken serious.

He is even comparing lagos to New York. He doesn't know aboriginal Americans did not leave their lands voluntarily but via war and genocide committed by settlers then treaties to put them in reservations. OP is ignorant.

Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 4:04pm On Sep 07, 2025
aswani:
It will take at leat 10 generations before Lagos slips away from Ndi Yoruba.

Look at all this time Ndigbo were block voting in Lagos, a few of them got to State House and went to Abuja.

Just this one time, in the last LG elections, that Ndi Yoruba decided to block vote for a change, as a result of Obidients lack of decorum, see what happened.

Sadly there is more of this to come, Ndi Yoruba have the numbers and will do so for a long time yet. Don't forget the only people coming to Lagos to settle for good nowadays are Yoruba, other tribes are simply using it as a stepping stone to go abroad.
We aren't talking elections here we are talking development, real estate etc


The honest truth if the elections Re dobe without rigging trust me non indigenous people will have a field day
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 4:06pm On Sep 07, 2025
chopnaira:
Op is just deceiving himself. Not to be taken serious.

He is even comparing lagos to New York. He doesn't know aboriginal Americans did not leave their lands voluntarily but via war and genocide committed by settlers then treaties to put them in reservations. OP is ignorant.
But in this case they are leaving voluntarily...the single individual that owns the highest land in Lagos is even non indigenous person...

Who owns land like Dangote ...do you know how many acres of land that he bought ! The truth is that unlike the Red Indians... indigenous Lagos are selling their own land to Investors a S now moving inside ...that's the reality
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 4:10pm On Sep 07, 2025
ednut1:
what is lagos culture? 150 years ago. It was yoruba, saro/aguda( returnee slaves), British colonialist etc. majority of the deltans, igbos, Hausas in lagos can speak yoruba. When there is oro do other tribes not comply? The kingships are still held by Yorubas. Many settlers in Lagos have gone back to their own towns/villages to take royal positions etc.

Come 100 years nothing wil change
Do you know that as of today many yoruba raised in Lagos can't even speak Yoruba... Their parent take delight in speaking English to their kids and that means that Yoruba culture in Lagos will erode away there are many factors

Another factors is marrying non Yoruba... I also noticed that many Yoruba take delight and pride in showcasing non Yoruba wives as trophy

Well... That's another way of eroding culture in Lagos cos those kids wouldn't even be tuned to yoruba

So
1. Selling of property
2. Speaking English to modern kids of Yoruba descent
3. Marrying non yoruba
4. Relocating after selling property outside Lagos


This will make the Yoruba culture to change....places like FESTAC,LEKKI, IKOYI, AJAH, SURULERE,AGO PALACE , AGEGE PEN CINEMA...Yoruba culture isn't there or minimal

That's what will happen in future to other parts
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by Ttalk: 4:44pm On Sep 07, 2025
DMerciful:
You read his insightful post but think emotional tribalistic response coupled with delusions of grandeur is what ought to be your strategic countermeasure?

Truth is nothing can stop the slipping of Lagos from the hands of tribal Yorubas because the development that you seek for Lagos means it becomes attractive for all esp when the resources for this development does not come from within
Lagos has been a developed city before the creation of Nigeria.

You are discussing Lagos state today because of its glory, when are you going to remember your village abi your place doesn't worth mentioning
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by Ttalk: 4:47pm On Sep 07, 2025
christopher123:
But in this case they are leaving voluntarily...the single individual that owns the highest land in Lagos is even non indigenous person...

Who owns land like Dangote ...do you know how many acres of land that he bought ! The truth is that unlike the Red Indians... indigenous Lagos are selling their own land to Investors a S now moving inside ...that's the reality
Hope many estates does Ibo own in Lagos?
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by Ttalk: 4:50pm On Sep 07, 2025
christopher123:
Do you know that as of today many yoruba raised in Lagos can't even speak Yoruba... Their parent take delight in speaking English to their kids and that means that Yoruba culture in Lagos will erode away there are many factors

Another factors is marrying non Yoruba... I also noticed that many Yoruba take delight and pride in showcasing non Yoruba wives as trophy

Well... That's another way of eroding culture in Lagos cos those kids wouldn't even be tuned to yoruba

So
1. Selling of property
2. Speaking English to modern kids of Yoruba descent
3. Marrying non yoruba
4. Relocating after selling property outside Lagos


This will make the Yoruba culture to change....places like FESTAC,LEKKI, IKOYI, AJAH, SURULERE,AGO PALACE , AGEGE PEN CINEMA...Yoruba culture isn't there or minimal

That's what will happen in future to other parts
Are those things you mentioned not happening in your village as well, does that make your place extinct?
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by ednut1(m): 5:24pm On Sep 07, 2025
christopher123:
Do you know that as of today many yoruba raised in Lagos can't even speak Yoruba... Their parent take delight in speaking English to their kids and that means that Yoruba culture in Lagos will erode away there are many factors

Another factors is marrying non Yoruba... I also noticed that many Yoruba take delight and pride in showcasing non Yoruba wives as trophy

Well... That's another way of eroding culture in Lagos cos those kids wouldn't even be tuned to yoruba

So
1. Selling of property
2. Speaking English to modern kids of Yoruba descent
3. Marrying non yoruba
4. Relocating after selling property outside Lagos


This will make the Yoruba culture to change....places like FESTAC,LEKKI, IKOYI, AJAH, SURULERE,AGO PALACE , AGEGE PEN CINEMA...Yoruba culture isn't there or minimal

That's what will happen in future to other parts
last response to you. In 1999-2003 my dad used to take us to a mister biggs in festac . The whole stretch of amuwo odofin was a single road and swap. No houses there. No one stopped Yorubas from populating it. What was the culture there? Same for ajah axis ( ojomu kingdom) before vgc and chevron. Its called development. If you go to those places the so called settlers can speak Yoruba. Yoruba language is even the face of afrobeats and igbo/ akwa ibom/delta artists even use it. You go to any market in Lagos- yoruba is the language of trade. Igbos in alaba are speaking Yoruba too. So go and rest with your imaginary fears
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by DMerciful(m): 5:26pm On Sep 07, 2025
Mention any major infrastructure in Lagos that wasn't built with Nigerian resources and that was built before 1914?
Ttalk:
Lagos has been a developed city before the creation of Nigeria.

You are discussing Lagos state today because of its glory, when are you going to remember your village abi your place doesn't worth mentioning
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by aswani(m): 5:57pm On Sep 07, 2025
christopher123:
We aren't talking elections here we are talking development, real estate etc


The honest truth if the elections Re dobe without rigging trust me non indigenous people will have a field day
It's all linked, political and economic power cannot be separated.

If elections are redone, Ndi South South will not follow Ndigbo again with voting patterns as per the Peter Obí effect. Obviously Ndi North wouldn't so the only people that will vote as a block is Ndigbo and they are not enough.

Even with other non indigines, they won't be enough to be a force.
Re: Opinion: Watching Lagos Slip Away, One House At A Time by christopher123(op): 6:12pm On Sep 07, 2025
Ttalk:
Hope many estates does Ibo own in Lagos?
I know you will call Igbo... Why this morbid phobia of anythih Igbo ?

We are talking about the sales of properties and you are narrowing it down to tribalism

I think I am done with this conversation...everything to some of you is ME AGAINST THEM ATTITUDE!
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