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Lukuluku69:
Matthew 10:34-36 (KJV) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

But Jesus was speaking to us Christians that the world (including Muslims) will hate us and persecute us just because we are of Christ.
You should have read from verse 5 of the same chapter sir.

It is US that would be killed and Jesus said that we should not be afraid of those who can kill the body. Jesus said, if they could persecute Him, they (including Muslims) will persecute us.

Lukuluku69:
When Jesus went to Jesus temporarily entered hellfire? Was he distressed?

What did you read from the Bible about it?
Surely you have an answer!







Quran 19:71-72
"And there is none of you except he will come to it (Hell). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


1. If the Truth is that you will certainly enter hell fire (even if it is temporarily), would this information distress you?
2. Knowing that you will enter the fire even if it is temporary is certainly NOT Good because the time you will spend is undefined! How long will you spend in Hell Fire?
3. Wouldn't this knowledge help you to begin to seek for a way of avoiding this calamity?

TenQ:
But Jesus was speaking to us Christians that the world (including Muslims) will hate us and persecute us just because we are of Christ.
You should have read from verse 5 of the same chapter sir.

It is US that would be killed and Jesus said that we should not be afraid of those who can kill the body. Jesus said, if they could persecute Him, they (including Muslims) will persecute us.


What did you read from the Bible about it?
Surely you have an answer!







Quran 19:71-72
"And there is none of you except he will come to it (Hell). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees."


1. If the Truth is that you will certainly enter hell fire (even if it is temporarily), would this information distress you?
2. Knowing that you will enter the fire even if it is temporary is certainly NOT Good because the time you will spend is undefined! How long will you spend in Hell Fire?
3. Wouldn't this knowledge help you to begin to seek for a way of avoiding this calamity?

Go play with sand, I gat no time to waste before you start asking me how did Abraham moved his cattle thru the desert now

Lukuluku69:
Go play with sand, I gat no time to waste before you start asking me how did Abraham moved his cattle thru the desert now

Abraham was fully Human and
It certainly wasn't a Miracle to Move his cattles anywhere! So, I can ask you about Abraham!

Islam finds it difficult answering logical, historical or natural questions.

Unlike,
In the Battle of the Elephants!
How did Abraha, the Abyssinian governor of Yemen bring an army of Elephants in the desert to destroy the Kaaba.



Does it bother you that you are temporarily going to Hell fire as a decree of Allah?

TenQ:
Abraham was fully Human and
It certainly wasn't a Miracle to Move his cattles anywhere! So, I can ask you about Abraham!

Islam finds it difficult answering logical, historical or natural questions.

Unlike,
In the Battle of the Elephants!
How did Abraha, the Abyssinian governor of Yemen bring an army of Elephants in the desert to destroy the Kaaba.



Does it bother you that you are temporarily going to Hell fire as a decree of Allah?

Lol

It not an Army of Elephants but you usually see 3/5 Elephants with the Army usually riden by Pronicipal Officers or the King and some of his high ranking Officers.

Read the Story of Hanibal who rode on an Elephant from Carthage (Present day Libya, Tunisia straddling some part of Egypt onto Syria). How did he water the Elephants in his wars with the Romans in the Punic Wars? If Hanibal who who was born in 247 BC could rode on an Elephant in his wars, and the Persians had Elephants riders in their Army, how come you question Abraha who was a satrap of the Persians Empire to ride an Elephant or had Elephants on his invasion of Mecca in 400BCE?

Are your prejudices that strong that you can't think properly? Are you that blinkered that sense is always running after you and you keep evading it?

TenQ:
Abraham was fully Human and
It certainly wasn't a Miracle to Move his cattles anywhere! So, I can ask you about Abraham!

Islam finds it difficult answering logical, historical or natural questions.

Unlike,
In the Battle of the Elephants!
How did Abraha, the Abyssinian governor of Yemen bring an army of Elephants in the desert to destroy the Kaaba.



Does it bother you that you are temporarily going to Hell fire as a decree of Allah?

Jesus Temporarily went to Hell fire too, so that shouldn't be a bother really.

TenQ:
Abraham was fully Human and
It certainly wasn't a Miracle to Move his cattles anywhere! So, I can ask you about Abraham!

Islam finds it difficult answering logical, historical or natural questions.

Unlike,
In the Battle of the Elephants!
How did Abraha, the Abyssinian governor of Yemen bring an army of Elephants in the desert to destroy the Kaaba.



Does it bother you that you are temporarily going to Hell fire as a decree of Allah?

Lol

It was not a battle of the Elephants, go read some more!

Below is a Wikipedia article on the use of Elephants in wars in the Ancient and modern times.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_elephant

Lukuluku69:
Lol

It not an Army of Elephants but you usually see 3/5 Elephants with the Army usually riden by Pronicipal Officers or the King and some of his high ranking Officers.

So, his Army brought just 2 to 5 elephants to the war AND Allah sent his F16, MiG36, Mirage and B27 of birds to bomb a whole lot out of their lives!?

Tell me another variation of the story story?
Was Allah scared of 13 Elephants?

One puzzling thing is, why was Allah so eager to protect 360 idols in his house?
Why was it that the same air force sent by Allah couldn't bomb the hell out of Al-Manat, Al-Uzza, Hubal and co from The Ka'aba?

Lukuluku69:
Read the Story of Hanibal who rode on an Elephant from Carthage (Present day Libya, Tunisia straddling some part of Egypt onto Syria). How did he water the Elephants in his wars with the Romans in the Punic Wars? If Hanibal who who was born in 247 BC could rode on an Elephant in his wars, and the Persians had Elephants riders in their Army, how come you question Abraha who was a satrap of the Persians Empire to ride an Elephant or had Elephants on his invasion of Mecca in 400BCE?

Learn your history very well bro!
Hannibal NEVER rode an Elephant in any of the deserts. He got is animals from Carthage area in North Africa, likely North African forest elephants and he rode them for crossing the Alps with a contingent of war elephants during the Second Punic War (218–201 BCE) against Rome.

Please confirm that:
Carthage was located in present-day Tunisia on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, a region known historically for its rich agricultural land, especially along the coastal plains.
Carthage has nothing to do with any desert sir

Secondly, Persia was no desert sir! It had desert areas BUT also many areas suitable for an animal like an elephant to thrive even though Elephants were not native to Persia.


Can you tell me ANYWHERE around Mecca that Elephants can thrive?

Lukuluku69:
Are your prejudices that strong that you can't think properly? Are you that blinkered that sense is always running after you and you keep evading it?

I have asked my questions, it is you who should give a reasonable answer to these natural phenomenon

Lukuluku69:
Jesus Temporarily went to Hell fire too, so that shouldn't be a bother really.

Continue to deceive yourself.
1. You think the place Jesus went to was the lake of Fire!?
2. Jesus by His power can make the fire like cool breeze to Himself: Do you have any such powers?

Jesus isn't your mate bro!
The fire will burn you with intensity of hotness that you cannot withstand.

Moreover,
What if you discovered that the Al-Makr lied to you and there is no coming out from the fire?

TenQ:
So, his Army brought just 2 to 5 elephants to the war AND Allah sent his F16, MiG36, Mirage and B27 of birds to bomb a whole lot out of their lives!?

Tell me another variation of the story story?
Was Allah scared of 13 Elephants?

One puzzling thing is, why was Allah so eager to protect 360 idols in his house?
Why was it that the same air force sent by Allah couldn't bomb the hell out of Al-Manat, Al-Uzza, Hubal and co from The Ka'aba?



Learn your history very well bro!
Hannibal NEVER rode an Elephant in any of the deserts. He got is animals from Carthage area in North Africa, likely North African forest elephants and he rode them for crossing the Alps with a contingent of war elephants during the Second Punic War (218–201 BCE) against Rome.

Please confirm that:
Carthage was located in present-day Tunisia on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, a region known historically for its rich agricultural land, especially along the coastal plains.
Carthage has nothing to do with any desert sir

Secondly, Persia was no desert sir! It had desert areas BUT also many areas suitable for an animal like an elephant to thrive even though Elephants were not native to Persia.


Can you tell me ANYWHERE around Mecca that Elephants can thrive?



I have asked my questions, it is you who should give a reasonable answer to these natural phenomenon

I thought the malady has left you but I can still see that it is well entrenched.

Tunisia and Libya are Forest now? Continue the fact remains this: Elephants have been used on Wars hundreds of years before Abraha ever marched on Mecca.

You can continue concocting this up in your brain that one no concern me.

TenQ:
Continue to deceive yourself.
1. You think the place Jesus went to was the lake of Fire!?
2. Jesus by His power can make the fire like cool breeze to Himself: Do you have any such powers?

Jesus isn't your mate bro!
The fire will burn you with intensity of hotness that you cannot withstand.

Moreover,
What if you discovered that the Al-Makr lied to you and there is no coming out from the fire?

Glad that you know that your saviour was also an inmate of Hell fire.

Continue the roaming ......

Lukuluku69:
I thought the malady has left you but I can still see that it is well entrenched.

Tunisia and Libya are Forest now? Continue the fact remains this: Elephants have been used on Wars hundreds of years before Abraha ever marched on Mecca.

You can continue concocting this up in your brain that one no concern me.

Then tell me since when ANY part of Arabia was flush gardens!

You seem not to even know that Arabs were desert people from inception.

SMH

Can you tell me ANYWHERE around Mecca that Elephants can thrive?

Lukuluku69:
Glad that you know that your saviour was also an inmate of Hell fire.

Continue the roaming ......

The difference being that my Saviour went to Hell so as to set its captive FREE!
This is WHY He is called the SAVIOUR! You don't know this!?

But for you Muslims, tell me
1. Why did Allah first put you in Hell Fire if he truely intended to remove you much later?
2. Why is it that Christians and Jews would be your ransom from Hell?
3. What if you discovered that the Al-Makr lied to you and there is no coming out from the fire?


I expect your ramblings as usual: anything to escape facing the TRUTH!

TenQ:
Then tell me since when ANY part of Arabia was flush gardens!

You seem not to even know that Arabs were desert people from inception.

SMH

Can you tell me ANYWHERE around Mecca that Elephants can thrive?



The difference being that my Saviour went to Hell so as to set its captive FREE!
This is WHY He is called the SAVIOUR! You don't know this!?

But for you Muslims, tell me
1. Why did Allah first put you in Hell Fire if he truely intended to remove you much later?
2. Why is it that Christians and Jews would be your ransom from Hell?
3. What if you discovered that the Al-Makr lied to you and there is no coming out from the fire?


I expect your ramblings as usual: anything to escape facing the TRUTH!

Go dig some more.

Lukuluku69:
Go dig some more.

Tongue tied!?

As a Muslim, tell me
1. Why did Allah first put you in Hell Fire if he truely intended to remove you much later?
2. Why is it that Christians and Jews would be your ransom from Hell?
3. What if you discovered that the Al-Makr lied to you and there is no coming out from the fire?


I expect your ramblings as usual: anything to escape facing the TRUTH!

TenQ:
Tongue tied!?

As a Muslim, tell me
1. Why did Allah first put you in Hell Fire if he truely intended to remove you much later?
2. Why is it that Christians and Jews would be your ransom from Hell?
3. What if you discovered that the Al-Makr lied to you and there is no coming out from the fire?


I expect your ramblings as usual: anything to escape facing the TRUTH!

Lol

It is Monday morning.

I know you are always in that mode regardless, I hope you find healing to the malady...

Lukuluku69:
Lol

It is Monday morning.

I know you are always in that mode regardless, I hope you find healing to the malady...

I am always on duty to see that as many who are Deceived by the Al-Makr get their eyes opened to the truth.

Of course,
Even God doesn't force ANYONE to the path of salvation: it is a choice each person must make


Mar 16:15-16:
"And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned."

The Truth is that YOU Mr Lukuluku CANNOT say that
1. The Gospel has not been preached to you
2. The Gospel has not been well Explained to you
3. You weren't told that the Al-Makr CANNOT be the God of Creation
4. You weren't told that Islamabad is not the Way of Salvation but a Trick by the Al-Makr to lead you away from the Messiah.






A Muslim is one who lives by the Mantra:
Do not confuse me with the truth because I have already made up my mind