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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 7:29pm On Sep 04, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jokay07(m): 7:41am On Sep 06, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 4:51pm On Sep 07, 2025
@gloriousgbola @twinskenny @bixton

Today I was privileged to see a house being metered.

The problem seems to be that even the representatives of the electricity distribution authority (AEDC) do the wrong thing. They used black wires for both the live and the neutral. It was a one phase meter by the way. I also noticed that the housing contractor (it was a house in an estate built for civil servants somewhere in Abuja) used red wires for both the live and the neutral for the wiring of the house.

As I watched closely, after installing the meter, he taped one of the black wires likely to indicate that it is live wire.

Last week one of the companies in my office building installed a 5kva Felicity inverter and 7.5kva lithium battery. The installer used red wires all through.

So this is where the problem is.

The contractors, the electricity distribution company, the home owners who do not know any better and nearly everyone else is cutting corners.

Unless you know better, because whenever I want to buy wires for installing my solar panels, I insist on double wire with different colors, and when I want to wire a house I insist we buy 3 different wires, red, black and green. The installers often say no need for the earth, I insist on earthing everything.

I noticed that in my own house (the new house I spoke of in my last post) that has a three phase meter, the wire from the pole is black but has all the proper color markings for all the phases, neutral and earth. But it is when the wires from the meter leave into the house that the wiring is done wrong.

This is why one needs to know a bit of something and not leave every fine detail to contractors.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:24pm On Sep 07, 2025
FEGEITOK:
@gloriousgbola @twinskenny @bixton

Today I was privileged to see a house being metered.

The problem seems to be that even the representatives of the electricity distribution authority (AEDC) do the wrong thing. They used black wires for both the live and the neutral. It was a one phase meter by the way. I also noticed that the housing contractor (it was a house in an estate built for civil servants somewhere in Abuja) used red wires for both the live and the neutral for the wiring of the house.

As I watched closely, after installing the meter, he taped one of the black wires likely to indicate that it is live wire.

Last week one of the companies in my office building installed a 5kva Felicity inverter and 7.5kva lithium battery. The installer used red wires all through.

So this is where the problem is.

The contractors, the electricity distribution company, the home owners who do not know any better and nearly everyone else is cutting corners.

Unless you know better, because whenever I want to buy wires for installing my solar panels, I insist on double wire with different colors, and when I want to wire a house I insist we buy 3 different wires, red, black and green. The installers often say no need for the earth, I insist on earthing everything.

I noticed that in my own house (the new house I spoke of in my last post) that has a three phase meter, the wire from the pole is black but has all the proper color markings for all the phases, neutral and earth. But it is when the wires from the meter leave into the house that the wiring is done wrong.

This is why one needs to know a bit of something and not leave every fine detail to contractors.
It is what it is my brother, I did an high end inverter installations in lekki, electrician came and installed same colour code from meter to db … big confusion house nearly got burnt, thank God I had protection installed on the inverter….

So many artisans trying to cut corners
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:55pm On Sep 07, 2025
twinskenny:
It is what it is my brother, I did an high end inverter installations in lekki, electrician came and installed same colour code from meter to db … big confusion house nearly got burnt, thank God I had protection installed on the inverter….

So many artisans trying to cut corners
Many a times we use words wrongly.

The use of same color wires for total house building wiring can best be said to be a work done wrong instead of saying cutting corners. At least we know that the cables used are not substandard type or wrong size.

Please can you clarify.....

I want to believe that the house is already wired that way before you came and installed your solar panels systems and the family has been enjoying light in that house....

So please can you get explain what led to the fire incident?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 7:39pm On Sep 07, 2025
bixton:
Many a times we use words wrongly.

The use of same color wires for total house building wiring can best be said to be a work done wrong instead of saying cutting corners. At least we know that the cables used are not substandard type or wrong size.

Please can you clarify.....

I want to believe that the house is already wired that way before you came and installed your solar panels systems and the family has been enjoying light in that house....

So please can you get explain what led to the fire incident?
Warning: this is going to be a long read!

I think that I will disagree with you.

Because I do not have the time to draft a response, i asked AI to help me explain why using one color of wire for total house wiring is indeed cutting corners.

First, I asked, What is wrong about using one color of wire to wire an entire house?

Using only one color of wire to wire an entire house is dangerous, against electrical codes, and makes troubleshooting extremely difficult.

Safety and Code Compliance

Electrical wiring color codes exist for safety. Different colors are used to identify the function of each wire: hot wires that carry current, neutral wires that return current to the source, and ground wires that provide a safe path for stray electricity to prevent shocks.


Without this color-coding system, a person working on the electrical system—whether it's the homeowner or a professional electrician—cannot easily tell which wire is which. This drastically increases the risk of touching a live wire, leading to electric shock, burns, or even death. The National Electrical Code (NEC) in the U.S. and similar standards internationally mandate these color codes to ensure safety. Using a single color would be a violation of these codes and could cause an inspection to fail.


Troubleshooting

When an electrical problem occurs, such as a tripped breaker or a malfunctioning outlet, the color-coded wires provide a universal language for diagnosing the issue. An electrician can quickly identify the purpose of each wire at a glance. If all wires are the same color, every wire would have to be tested individually with a multimeter to determine its function, which is a tedious and time-consuming process that can add significant cost to a repair.


Common Color Codes

While a single color is a major issue, it's also important to know the standard colors. In the United States, common residential wiring includes:

Black and red wires for hot wires.

White or gray for neutral wires.

Green, green with a yellow stripe, or bare copper for ground wires.

The video below explains the significance of different wire colors in a home's electrical system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far1jkipwdc

Next, I asked Would it be correct to say such a practice is cutting corners?

Yes, using a single color of wire to wire an entire house is a classic example of "cutting corners" and is considered an unsafe, non-compliant, and dangerous practice in the electrical industry. ⚠️ It's a huge risk that can lead to severe consequences.

Why It's a Dangerous Practice

Safety Hazard: The primary function of wire color coding is to identify the purpose of each wire instantly. Without it, you can't tell which wire is live (hot), which is the neutral return path, and which is the ground safety wire. This puts anyone working on the electrical system—including future homeowners, inspectors, or electricians—at a high risk of electric shock, electrocution, or starting a fire.

Code Violation: Electrical codes, like the National Electrical Code (NEC), mandate specific color codes for wiring for safety and uniformity. Using one color for all wires is a direct violation of these codes. A property wired this way would fail inspection, making it difficult to sell or insure.

Troubleshooting Nightmare: When an issue arises, such as a short circuit or a non-working outlet, an electrician uses the wire colors to quickly diagnose the problem. A system with a single color would require extensive, time-consuming testing of every wire to determine its function, which increases repair costs and prolongs the outage.

Properly color-coded wiring is the standard for a reason: it's a critical safety measure that makes electrical systems safer to install, maintain, and troubleshoot. Cutting this corner is not just a shortcut; it's a serious hazard that can have deadly consequences.

You can see an electrician discuss the importance of wire color coding in Electrical Wire Color Coding Used By Electricians. This video explains how electricians rely on color coding to understand a circuit and ensure safety.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhZcWykPWQc


Conclusion my words not AI this time around

I am a hobbyist. I fix electrical issues at home, I have even studied a bit of electronics so I can troubleshoot circuits on my state of the art in its day vintage amplifiers (Kenwood KA-907s). I even got the service manuals for all of them, so I know that color coding was done for standardization so anyone can just look at a circuit and understand in minutes what the circuit designers built, as far as I am concerned, using one wire to build an entire building's electrical circuit is electrical heresy and blasphemy and everyone who does that should be sent to the gallows as they have no business playing with electricity and its circuits.

What twinskenny said is entirely plausible
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:15pm On Sep 07, 2025
FEGEITOK:
Warning: this is going to be a long read!

I think that I will disagree with you.

Because I do not have the time to draft a response, i asked AI to help me explain why using one color of wire for total house wiring is indeed cutting corners.

First, I asked, What is wrong about using one color of wire to wire an entire house?

Using only one color of wire to wire an entire house is dangerous, against electrical codes, and makes troubleshooting extremely difficult.

Safety and Code Compliance

Electrical wiring color codes exist for safety. Different colors are used to identify the function of each wire: hot wires that carry current, neutral wires that return current to the source, and ground wires that provide a safe path for stray electricity to prevent shocks.


Without this color-coding system, a person working on the electrical system—whether it's the homeowner or a professional electrician—cannot easily tell which wire is which. This drastically increases the risk of touching a live wire, leading to electric shock, burns, or even death. The National Electrical Code (NEC) in the U.S. and similar standards internationally mandate these color codes to ensure safety. Using a single color would be a violation of these codes and could cause an inspection to fail.


Troubleshooting

When an electrical problem occurs, such as a tripped breaker or a malfunctioning outlet, the color-coded wires provide a universal language for diagnosing the issue. An electrician can quickly identify the purpose of each wire at a glance. If all wires are the same color, every wire would have to be tested individually with a multimeter to determine its function, which is a tedious and time-consuming process that can add significant cost to a repair.


Common Color Codes

While a single color is a major issue, it's also important to know the standard colors. In the United States, common residential wiring includes:

Black and red wires for hot wires.

White or gray for neutral wires.

Green, green with a yellow stripe, or bare copper for ground wires.

The video below explains the significance of different wire colors in a home's electrical system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Far1jkipwdc

Next, I asked Would it be correct to say such a practice is cutting corners?

Yes, using a single color of wire to wire an entire house is a classic example of "cutting corners" and is considered an unsafe, non-compliant, and dangerous practice in the electrical industry. ⚠️ It's a huge risk that can lead to severe consequences.

Why It's a Dangerous Practice

Safety Hazard: The primary function of wire color coding is to identify the purpose of each wire instantly. Without it, you can't tell which wire is live (hot), which is the neutral return path, and which is the ground safety wire. This puts anyone working on the electrical system—including future homeowners, inspectors, or electricians—at a high risk of electric shock, electrocution, or starting a fire.

Code Violation: Electrical codes, like the National Electrical Code (NEC), mandate specific color codes for wiring for safety and uniformity. Using one color for all wires is a direct violation of these codes. A property wired this way would fail inspection, making it difficult to sell or insure.

Troubleshooting Nightmare: When an issue arises, such as a short circuit or a non-working outlet, an electrician uses the wire colors to quickly diagnose the problem. A system with a single color would require extensive, time-consuming testing of every wire to determine its function, which increases repair costs and prolongs the outage.

Properly color-coded wiring is the standard for a reason: it's a critical safety measure that makes electrical systems safer to install, maintain, and troubleshoot. Cutting this corner is not just a shortcut; it's a serious hazard that can have deadly consequences.

You can see an electrician discuss the importance of wire color coding in Electrical Wire Color Coding Used By Electricians. This video explains how electricians rely on color coding to understand a circuit and ensure safety.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhZcWykPWQc


Conclusion my words not AI this time around

I am a hobbyist. I fix electrical issues at home, I have even studied a bit of electronics so I can troubleshoot circuits on my state of the art in its day vintage amplifiers (Kenwood KA-907s). I even got the service manuals for all of them, so I know that color coding was done for standardization so anyone can just look at a circuit and understand in minutes what the circuit designers built, as far as I am concerned, using one wire to build an entire building's electrical circuit is electrical heresy and blasphemy and everyone who does that should be sent to the gallows as they have no business playing with electricity and its circuits.

What twinskenny said is entirely plausible
*Cutting Corners:*

"Cutting corners" is an idiomatic expression that means to:

1. *Take shortcuts*: Find ways to do something more quickly or cheaply, often by omitting or reducing certain steps or procedures.
2. *Reduce quality*: Compromise on quality, safety, or standards to achieve a goal or meet a deadline.


Like I said we choose words wrongly.

The above is the Meta AI definition of cutting corners.
Let's take the bolded, side by side with your response from AI and see how good AI is in thinking for itself.

Take the bolded apart with respect to the main subject topic of single color electrical works in buildings.

Let's all learn together.
Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 8:27pm On Sep 07, 2025
bixton:
*Cutting Corners:*

"Cutting corners" is an idiomatic expression that means to:

1. *Take shortcuts*: Find ways to do something more quickly or cheaply, often by omitting or reducing certain steps or procedures.
2. *Reduce quality*: Compromise on quality, safety, or standards to achieve a goal or meet a deadline.


Like I said we choose words wrongly.

The above is the Meta AI definition of cutting corners.
Let's take the bolded, side by side with your response from AI and see how good AI is in thinking for itself.

Take the bolded apart with respect to the main subject topic of single color electrical works in buildings.

Let's all learn together.
Thanks.
1. *Take shortcuts*: Find ways to do something more quickly or cheaply, often by omitting or reducing certain steps or procedures.

using one colour of cable instead of three is omitting and reducing steps and procedures

it is being too lazy to find other colours of cable or choosing to use from your existing stack of wire

you have left over black wire of 100m - and you need 50m wire a circuit. the right thing to doi is go and buy 50m red cable - but it is cheaper to use the 100m black and 50m live and 50m neutral. whatever happens after is the end users problem

they are able to get away with this because on domestic installs electricians are not supervised

this is why when you put them on commercial or industrial work - everything falls apart

some do not even know what colour coding is. we had a facility where the breaker kept tripping off after our guy worked there. it tuned ot he had sent one of his boys who had wired the breaker wrongly because he did not know the difference between live and neutral
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 8:36pm On Sep 07, 2025
bixton:
*Cutting Corners:*

"Cutting corners" is an idiomatic expression that means to:

1. *Take shortcuts*: Find ways to do something more quickly or cheaply, often by omitting or reducing certain steps or procedures.
2. *Reduce quality*: Compromise on quality, safety, or standards to achieve a goal or meet a deadline.


Like I said we choose words wrongly.

The above is the Meta AI definition of cutting corners.
Let's take the bolded, side by side with your response from AI and see how good AI is in thinking for itself.

Take the bolded apart with respect to the main subject topic of single color electrical works in buildings.

Let's all learn together.
Thanks.
Here is the definition and additional notes on cutting corners from my own AI:

"Cutting corners" is an idiom that describes the act of doing something in the easiest, cheapest, or fastest way possible, often by neglecting proper procedures, standards, or quality. This shortcut typically results in a lower-quality outcome, potential risks, or future problems.

Here's a breakdown of what it implies:

Sacrificing Quality: The primary characteristic of cutting corners is a reduction in the quality of the work or product. This is done to save resources.

Saving Time, Money, or Effort: The motivation behind cutting corners is usually to complete a task more quickly, with less expense, or with less physical or mental effort.

Ignoring Rules or Standards: It often involves deviating from established guidelines, best practices, or safety regulations.

Potential for Negative Consequences: While the immediate goal is efficiency, cutting corners often leads to negative repercussions such as:

Poor performance: The final product or service may not function as intended.

Safety hazards: In critical areas like construction or electrical work, this can lead to dangerous situations.

Durability issues: The item or system may break down prematurely.
Increased future costs: Problems arising from shortcuts may be more expensive to fix later.
Legal or ethical violations: In some cases, cutting corners can be illegal or unethical.

Origin: The idiom likely originates from the literal act of taking a shortcut by "cutting" across a corner instead of following the proper, longer route. While this might save a little time or distance, it could also lead to damage (e.g., trampling grass) or an increased risk of accidents.

In essence, cutting corners is about prioritizing expediency over thoroughness and quality, often with detrimental long-term effects.

So hope this helps the discourse
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:20pm On Sep 07, 2025
Please what is the correct wire gauge to run between the pole and the house if the house uses a single phase and will not run appliances higher than 1 AC and 1 deep freezer? is it 6mm or 10mm or 16mm?

So I can advise my friend whose house has just been metered?

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 9:30pm On Sep 07, 2025
FEGEITOK:
Please what is the correct wire gauge to run between the pole and the house if the house uses a single phase and will not run appliances higher than 1 AC and 1 deep freezer? is it 6mm or 10mm or 16mm?

So I can advise my friend whose house has just been metered?

Thanks
cable to my gen is 6mm.

if you are SURE you will not upgrade do 6mm, if you are not absolutely sure, 10mm

i dont use any ac though
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:37pm On Sep 07, 2025
GloriousGbola:
cable to my gen is 6mm.

if you are SURE you will not upgrade do 6mm, if you are not absolutely sure, 10mm

i dont use any ac though
I use 6mm from my inverter to the db.

Thanks very much
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:53pm On Sep 07, 2025
FEGEITOK:
Please what is the correct wire gauge to run between the pole and the house if the house uses a single phase and will not run appliances higher than 1 AC and 1 deep freezer? is it 6mm or 10mm or 16mm?

So I can advise my friend whose house has just been metered?

Thanks
25mm recline or 16mm armored

From the pole to the house am not sure there is a lesser gauge
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 9:58pm On Sep 07, 2025
twinskenny:
25mm recline or 16mm armored

From the pole to the house am not sure there is a lesser gauge
I deeply appreciate your input
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:00pm On Sep 07, 2025
FEGEITOK:
Here is the definition and additional notes on cutting corners from my own AI:

"Cutting corners" is an idiom that describes the act of doing something in the easiest, cheapest, or fastest way possible, often by neglecting proper procedures, standards, or quality. This shortcut typically results in a lower-quality outcome, potential risks, or future problems.

Here's a breakdown of what it implies:

Sacrificing Quality: The primary characteristic of cutting corners is a reduction in the quality of the work or product. This is done to save resources.

Saving Time, Money, or Effort: The motivation behind cutting corners is usually to complete a task more quickly, with less expense, or with less physical or mental effort.

Ignoring Rules or Standards: It often involves deviating from established guidelines, best practices, or safety regulations.

Potential for Negative Consequences: While the immediate goal is efficiency, cutting corners often leads to negative repercussions such as:

Poor performance: The final product or service may not function as intended.

Safety hazards: In critical areas like construction or electrical work, this can lead to dangerous situations.

Durability issues: The item or system may break down prematurely.
Increased future costs: Problems arising from shortcuts may be more expensive to fix later.
Legal or ethical violations: In some cases, cutting corners can be illegal or unethical.

Origin: The idiom likely originates from the literal act of taking a shortcut by "cutting" across a corner instead of following the proper, longer route. While this might save a little time or distance, it could also lead to damage (e.g., trampling grass) or an increased risk of accidents.

In essence, cutting corners is about prioritizing expediency over thoroughness and quality, often with detrimental long-term effects.

So hope this helps the discourse
No it doesn't help.
I deliberately stick to the definition i brought up from AI but you insisted to add more.

Please don't tell me what AI said because it can't think for itself.

Let's also stick to the main discuss and not expand it. We are talking about electrical wiring in buildings for lights and sockets using same color code which is on obviously not good because using same color makes identification hard...... That I agree. But like I said you'll need to explain the word "cutting corners by yourself and not include AIs input. Think through by yourself.

Does using same color for both terminals( +/ -) reduce the quality? Note....the cables are of same size and high end value. Does it also affect the quality of electricity coming into the building?

Is there any cost saving in such approach?
I've never heard that different colors have different prices for same size!!!!

Are you sure there's actually a time saving to such approach to it? Please think it through assuming that the individual did not even mark the ends of the cable to differentiate + and - !!!?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 10:24pm On Sep 07, 2025
bixton:
No it doesn't help.
I deliberately stick to the definition i brought up from AI but you insisted to add more.

Please don't tell me what AI said because it can't think for itself.

Let's also stick to the main discuss and not expand it. We are talking about electrical wiring in buildings for lights and sockets using same color code which is on obviously not good because using same color makes identification hard...... That I agree. But like I said you'll need to explain the word "cutting corners by yourself and not include AIs input. Think through by yourself.

Does using same color for both terminals( +/ -) reduce the quality? Note....the cables are of same size and high end value. Does it also affect the quality of electricity coming into the building?

Is there any cost saving in such approach?
I've never heard that different colors have different prices for same size!!!!

Are you sure there's actually a time saving to such approach to it? Please think it through assuming that the individual did not even mark the ends of the cable to differentiate + and - !!!?
This was the prompt, what was your own prompt?

Define cutting corners

In my line of business, we learn a lot by comparing definitions.

I am also aware that people who study scripture benefit a lot by comparing the same verse in different translations.

Do you realise that not considering more than 1 definition you leave yourself at risk of being considered close minded?

If there is something wrong about the definition from my own AI, critique it and point it out.

Let everyone learn.



I'm lazy. I cheat once more by answering your first question with AI.

Using the same color for both terminals (positive and negative) does not reduce the quality of the electricity itself, assuming the cables are of the same size and value. The electrical current will flow just as it should, with no degradation in power or signal. However, it is an extremely dangerous and non-compliant practice that creates severe risks for anyone working on the electrical system.

While using a single color for both terminals doesn't affect the physical quality of the electricity, it creates an extreme safety hazard and is a practice of "cutting corners" that no professional would ever endorse.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23(m): 10:33pm On Sep 07, 2025
bixton:
No it doesn't help.
I deliberately stick to the definition i brought up from AI but you insisted to add more.

Please don't tell me what AI said because it can't think for itself.

Let's also stick to the main discuss and not expand it. We are talking about electrical wiring in buildings for lights and sockets using same color code which is on obviously not good because using same color makes identification hard...... That I agree. But like I said you'll need to explain the word "cutting corners by yourself and not include AIs input. Think through by yourself.

Does using same color for both terminals( +/ -) reduce the quality? Note....the cables are of same size and high end value. Does it also affect the quality of electricity coming into the building?

Is there any cost saving in such approach?
I've never heard that different colors have different prices for same size!!!!

Are you sure there's actually a time saving to such approach to it? Please think it through assuming that the individual did not even mark the ends of the cable to differentiate + and - !!!?
You are right, just that I don't have strength to type now, I would have love to it down for everybody to understand. Cable size either RED, YELLOW, BLUE, BLACK or GREEN have the same price so far they are from the same manufacturer's. The only problem we have with manufacturers is that some cables (single core cables) are special request. Like BLUE, YELLOW. You must place order for certain quantity before they can produce it. Reason why some electrician use red colour for both BLUE and YELLOW phase in 3-phase connection.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 10:41pm On Sep 07, 2025
topsy23:
You are right, just that I don't have strength to type now, I would have love to it down for everybody to understand. Cable size either RED, YELLOW, BLUE, BLACK or GREEN have the same price so far they are from the same manufacturer's. The only problem we have with manufacturers is that some cables (single core cables) are special request. Like BLUE, YELLOW. You must place order for certain quantity before they can produce it. Reason why some electrician use red colour for both BLUE and YELLOW phase in 3-phase connection.
Likely because of the predominance of the wrong practices.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GloriousGbola: 10:46pm On Sep 07, 2025
FEGEITOK:
Likely because of the predominance of the wrong practices.
A lot of electricians will simply use your site as training for their boys.

Their boys learn by rote and have no idea of standards


This is why you need a person on site taking pictures and posting in real time so you can nip any nonsense in the bud

The problem is a mentality of it is sha working so stop making drama.

These same electricans will run wire in the ground in wall conduit.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FEGEITOK: 10:55pm On Sep 07, 2025
GloriousGbola:
A lot of electricians will simply use your site as training for their boys.

Their boys learn by rote and have no idea of standards


This is why you need a person on site taking pictures and posting in real time so you can nip any nonsense in the bud

The problem is a mentality of it is sha working so stop making drama.

These same electricans will run wire in the ground in wall conduit.
So the companies respond to the market and the market drives demand and supply,

An informed clientele will demand all the colors and the companies will not run at a loss providing all colors.

No wonder everyone had just 1 color of 6mm the other day in the market
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Omayie: 5:51am On Sep 08, 2025
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m):
FEGEITOK:
This was the prompt, what was your own prompt?

Define cutting corners

In my line of business, we learn a lot by comparing definitions.

I am also aware that people who study scripture benefit a lot by comparing the same verse in different translations.

Do you realise that not considering more than 1 definition you leave yourself at risk of being considered close minded?

If there is something wrong about the definition from my own AI, critique it and point it out.

Let everyone learn.



I'm lazy. I cheat once more by answering your first question with AI.

Using the same color for both terminals (positive and negative) does not reduce the quality of the electricity itself, assuming the cables are of the same size and value. The electrical current will flow just as it should, with no degradation in power or signal. However, it is an extremely dangerous and non-compliant practice that creates severe risks for anyone working on the electrical system.

While using a single color for both terminals doesn't affect the physical quality of the electricity, it creates an extreme safety hazard and is a practice of "cutting corners" that no professional would ever endorse.
By the grace of God, I am a teacher of the gospel of Christ Jesus. In Scripture teaching, those who are knowledgeable with the KJV/NKJV and type of English usage and they rely on the Spirit of God for understanding will have come to know that one can't completely rely on the other translations. Though its good for easy learning but not good in extracting the intended as it should be from the KJV.
I can tell you for free that there are many verses in some translations that say completely different from what it is. It leads one to heresy most times if not careful.



I will leave it at that.
I think @ topsy23 will do some justice to this issue when he has the time to spare.


I am a very practical person.
Some months ago, while on a job, a discussion with colleagues made me to use AI.
What was the question......"Does alcohol drinking causes dehydration?

It was an obvious , Yes.
Because we were seated at a bar and they were drinking. I then asked them, how come if it causes dehydration I don't see lots of people having bottle water on their tables when drinking. They were even drinking beers.

I dont know anyone who while drinking alcohol gets dehydrated and requests for bottle water to quench their thirst.....

This is a practical class not for AIs.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FibonacciAI: 7:46am On Sep 08, 2025
Dm for all your structural design and drawings...

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FibonacciAI: 7:54am On Sep 08, 2025
Let's deal now

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