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aswani:
It's all linked, political and economic power cannot be separated.

If elections are redone, Ndi South South will not follow Ndigbo again with voting patterns as per the Peter Obí effect. Obviously Ndi North wouldn't so the only people that will vote as a block is Ndigbo and they are not enough.

Even with other non indigines, they won't be enough to be a force.

ednut1:
last response to you. In 1999-2003 my dad used to take us to a mister biggs in festac . The whole stretch of amuwo odofin was a single road and swap. No houses there. No one stopped Yorubas from populating it. What was the culture there? Same for ajah axis ( ojomu kingdom) before vgc and chevron. Its called development. If you go to those places the so called settlers can speak Yoruba. Yoruba language is even the face of afrobeats and igbo/ akwa ibom/delta artists even use it. You go to any market in Lagos- yoruba is the language of trade. Igbos in alaba are speaking Yoruba too. So go and rest with your imaginary fears

christopher123:
What actions sir if I may ask...is it to fight the people that bought their property legitimately or is it to tell them to resell the houses to you or is to tell them to abandon the houses for you ..?

What actions if I may ask ?

Who pushed the indigenous people to wall?
Who told them to sell off their land?
Who told the children to exhume the bodies of their parents and rebury somewhere so as to sell the lands ?

How are the indigenous people pushed to the wall?

T9ksy:
Omo, when a group of people refuses or allergic to learning from their experience then they as a group, are bound to repeat the same mistake.

Las las "Abandon properties" phase II will eventually, re-occur.

Btw, how come we don't hear of abandoned properties in the northern part of the country after the last civil war? Is it that the northerners didn't appropriated their (igbo) properties ni, or that the northerners willing returned their properties back to them, ni?

aswani:
It's all linked, political and economic power cannot be separated.

If elections are redone, Ndi South South will not follow Ndigbo again with voting patterns as per the Peter Obí effect. Obviously Ndi North wouldn't so the only people that will vote as a block is Ndigbo and they are not enough.

Even with other non indigines, they won't be enough to be a force.

christopher123:
Oh you want the

Igbo
Edos
Hausa
Ijaws
Benue

People that bought houses to abandon it for you? I really want to understand this your ABANDONED PROPERTY 2 methodology or will it be selective ? Or did they force you to sell ?

DrAkpa:
Obasa another tribal warlord is still there waiting to take over o. When Tinubu goes, another urchin will take over. It's a circle.

christopher123:
You are diverting this conversation to elections and tribal politics

We are taking about the penchant selling of ancestral property by yoruba kids only to turn ariyd to say that they have been chased out

Let's discuss that and allow the South South people to talk what they want ...and mind you 50% of them have Igboid blood and they have been together for centuries ...so let them take their decision

Talk about the land being sold to non Yoruba anyhow in Lagos that's the thrust of this chat

christopher123:
Oh you want the

Igbo
Edos
Hausa
Ijaws
Benue

People that bought houses to abandon it for you? I really want to understand this your ABANDONED PROPERTY 2 methodology or will it be selective ? Or did they force you to sell ?

LZAA:
T9ksy wants to eat his cake and have it

T8ksy:
A world , they say, is enough for the wise but...............

christopher123:
Oh you want the

Igbo
Edos
Hausa
Ijaws
Benue

People that bought houses to abandon it for you? I really want to understand this your ABANDONED PROPERTY 2 methodology or will it be selective ? Or did they force you to sell ?

aswani:
Why are you dragging other tribes into it? We allknow this thread is another in the series of Ndigbo Obidients vs Ndi Yoruba shootout over Lagos.

LZAA:
T9ksy wants to eat his cake and have it

christopher123:
What actions sir if I may ask...is it to fight the people that bought their property legitimately or is it to tell them to resell the houses to you or is to tell them to abandon the houses for you ..?

What actions if I may ask ?

Who pushed the indigenous people to wall?
Who told them to sell off their land?
Who told the children to exhume the bodies of their parents and rebury somewhere so as to sell the lands ?

How are the indigenous people pushed to the wall?

SeeWahala:
The guy is seriously eyeing one odogwus mansion that he and his brothers want to cornobi once their dreams of Igbos running away from their Lagos materializes hahaha 🤣😂

Meanwhile he's from Ogbomosho oh

SeeWahala:
The guy is seriously eyeing one odogwus mansion that he and his brothers want to cornobi once their dreams of Igbos running away from their Lagos materializes hahaha 🤣😂

Meanwhile he's from Ogbomosho oh

christopher123:
I have lived in Lagos for many years, moving from Abule Ado to FESTAC, and in all my time here I have watched one uncomfortable truth unfold before my eyes: Lagos is changing, not because people are conquering it, but because its original owners are selling it off, piece by piece.

This isn’t tribal bashing. Neither is it a blanket statement about the Yoruba as a people. I know many Yoruba families who guard their inheritance with wisdom, who understand the value of passing land from one generation to another. What I speak of is a pattern I have personally observed in parts of Lagos—one that deserves reflection.

I know a Yoruba man who died in Moshalashi area of Lagos, such a nice man and he asked his children not to sell when he was alive , his children often inherit property worth fortunes. Yet, before three years pass, that same house is sold off to strangers. I have seen it happen repeatedly in my own neighborhood. Just last month, the third house in our street was sold off. The late father had begged his children never to sell, but they did. And they did so with relief, not reluctance.

And so the cycle continues.

Drive through Lagos, and you will see what I mean. Egbeda, Gowon Estate, Shagari Estate—walk the streets there and you would think you were in Benin City. Esan and Bini tongues fill the air. The Edo people didn’t grab those houses by force. They simply bought what was offered to them.

Move some kilometers toward Agege, from Iyana Ipaja to Pen Cinema, even toward the Abbatoir. Hausa is the lingua franca there now. The Hausa-Fulani didn’t conquer it; they simply purchased what Yoruba children sold.

And what can we say of the Igbo? From Ago Palace to FESTAC, Ojo to Ajangbadi—the Igbo community has not only bought up houses, they have reclaimed swamps, sand-filled them, and built bustling communities. Walk those streets, and Igbo is what you hear.

I have seen where graves are exhumed and reburied and houses are sold to highest bidder! The question isn't the selling of the house but the respect of the dead and what he achieved when he was alive only to be sold ! Do we blame the buyer or the seller? Let's start asking these truthful questions and know that when we point to people claiming that sole set of tribes are taking over Lagos...the question is...HOW ARE THEY TAKING OVER? Is it a hostile take over or they just bought it !

So who do we blame? The buyers—or the sellers?

I cannot blame a man who invests in land, builds a business, and raises a family in Lagos. I cannot look at someone who pays taxes, who creates jobs, who develops wastelands, and say, “You have no stake in this city.” No. Stakeholding is not just about bloodline; it is also about sacrifice and investment.

But what troubles me is the ease with which some children of Lagos sell their father’s legacy. They do not think of generational wealth, of grandchildren who might need that roof, of the ground on which a family name can stand. Instead, they see quick cash—money to be spent in a season, leaving nothing behind but memories of a house once standing.

And then some turn around and complain that “strangers are taking over.” But strangers do not take over what you refuse to sell.

The truth is Lagos is not “no man’s land.” The Awori and other Yoruba groups were here first. But Lagos has become the city of everyone who comes with vision, patience, and investment. The tragedy is not that outsiders are buying Lagos. The tragedy is that too many indigenes are selling Lagos.

I am only an observer, but each time I watch another family home go on the market, I feel as though a little more of the soul of Lagos is slipping away. And the painful part? It isn’t being stolen. It is being sold—with open hands and willing hearts.


Mark Obot

christopher123:
I have lived in Lagos for many years, moving from Abule Ado to FESTAC, and in all my time here I have watched one uncomfortable truth unfold before my eyes: Lagos is changing, not because people are conquering it, but because its original owners are selling it off, piece by piece.

This isn’t tribal bashing. Neither is it a blanket statement about the Yoruba as a people. I know many Yoruba families who guard their inheritance with wisdom, who understand the value of passing land from one generation to another. What I speak of is a pattern I have personally observed in parts of Lagos—one that deserves reflection.

I know a Yoruba man who died in Moshalashi area of Lagos, such a nice man and he asked his children not to sell when he was alive , his children often inherit property worth fortunes. Yet, before three years pass, that same house is sold off to strangers. I have seen it happen repeatedly in my own neighborhood. Just last month, the third house in our street was sold off. The late father had begged his children never to sell, but they did. And they did so with relief, not reluctance.

And so the cycle continues.

Drive through Lagos, and you will see what I mean. Egbeda, Gowon Estate, Shagari Estate—walk the streets there and you would think you were in Benin City. Esan and Bini tongues fill the air. The Edo people didn’t grab those houses by force. They simply bought what was offered to them.

Move some kilometers toward Agege, from Iyana Ipaja to Pen Cinema, even toward the Abbatoir. Hausa is the lingua franca there now. The Hausa-Fulani didn’t conquer it; they simply purchased what Yoruba children sold.

And what can we say of the Igbo? From Ago Palace to FESTAC, Ojo to Ajangbadi—the Igbo community has not only bought up houses, they have reclaimed swamps, sand-filled them, and built bustling communities. Walk those streets, and Igbo is what you hear.

I have seen where graves are exhumed and reburied and houses are sold to highest bidder! The question isn't the selling of the house but the respect of the dead and what he achieved when he was alive only to be sold ! Do we blame the buyer or the seller? Let's start asking these truthful questions and know that when we point to people claiming that sole set of tribes are taking over Lagos...the question is...HOW ARE THEY TAKING OVER? Is it a hostile take over or they just bought it !

So who do we blame? The buyers—or the sellers?

I cannot blame a man who invests in land, builds a business, and raises a family in Lagos. I cannot look at someone who pays taxes, who creates jobs, who develops wastelands, and say, “You have no stake in this city.” No. Stakeholding is not just about bloodline; it is also about sacrifice and investment.

But what troubles me is the ease with which some children of Lagos sell their father’s legacy. They do not think of generational wealth, of grandchildren who might need that roof, of the ground on which a family name can stand. Instead, they see quick cash—money to be spent in a season, leaving nothing behind but memories of a house once standing.

And then some turn around and complain that “strangers are taking over.” But strangers do not take over what you refuse to sell.

The truth is Lagos is not “no man’s land.” The Awori and other Yoruba groups were here first. But Lagos has become the city of everyone who comes with vision, patience, and investment. The tragedy is not that outsiders are buying Lagos. The tragedy is that too many indigenes are selling Lagos.

I am only an observer, but each time I watch another family home go on the market, I feel as though a little more of the soul of Lagos is slipping away. And the painful part? It isn’t being stolen. It is being sold—with open hands and willing hearts.


Mark Obot

aswani:
The idiocy is crying over and over again because Ndi Yoruba are changing street names in Ala Yoruba.

Not long ago, Lagos state was sending non Yoruba people tó Abuja, Lagos State State house in Alausa had non Yoruba elected officials.

Now, there is no such variance and openness, yet you are talking about them asserting ownership., they already have.

You that you are buying their property, left right and centre, where is your dominance or how soon will it manifest into numbers, votes and a return to non Yorùbá's in Alausa and Abuja on behalf of Lagos state?

Rest, Lagos State is still Yorubaland.

chopnaira:
Peter obi is the tribal bigot.
2011
2013
2015

Ps: Lagos is still atleast 80% dominated by the Yorubas. Go to any primary or secondary school in Lagos, Yoruba kids make up more than 80% of the classroom.

Even in Agege, were Hausas are in large numbers, Yoruba still make up more than 80%. The only place where Yoruba would be like 70% is only Okota and Festac.

OP is day dreaming and trying to use reverse psychology. He is not even Yoruba to begin with.

SisterAnn:
You have told everyone who cared to listen you are not Yoruba. Why did you then decide to inherit another man's hate and pains against the Igbos who did nothing wrong but buy property where it was offered?

T9ksy:
Omo, don't get it twisted!!!

It's specifically aimed at you igbos. None of the groups you listed above had at any time make statements about how they dominate lagos economy.

The first timr we witnessed this abberation in our political hemishere on nigeria was in the mid-west region and it was aimed ay igbos and not nigerians , as you are trying to suggest. This your nefarious narrative is unfortunately is D.O.A.

aswani:
Where in that post have you seen any hatred against Ndigbo? And where have I told anyone what I am or am not?

Why are you Obidients like this? You people will start something and then start complaining when it becomes too much for you to bear.

The Obidient poster I responded to referred to the "idiocy" of Ndi Yoruba for renaming streets (I don't necessarily disagree by the way though I understand why and won't use the word idiocy), and stated how non Indigines where soon going to have more people in Lagos.

All I have done is just clarified a few things to them as to how wrong their prognosis is, nothing to do with hating Ndigbo. Please next time, be mindful of your accusations against me and bring congent proof. Thank you.

tubolancer:
The same story, the same people. So they are selling the property to only Igbo, including Edo in your stupid narrative doesn't show any wiseness. People sell their building which are done all over the world so Lagos is not an exception, bringing tribalism and bashing other ethnic group like the Yoruba is not acceptable. I have seen Igbo, Hausa, Edo selling their properties in Lagos. I have seen many Yorubas buying lots of properties that belongs to other tribes in Lagos. Remember Lagos is not just one or two streets and other ethnic groups can buy lands in Lagos but saying Igbo has bought all the land is a big joke. Egbeda is not just one streets, so Edo buying all the lands in Egbeda is a big joke, likewise Hausa buying all the lands in Agege is also a big joke but Agege is not two streets and it consist of many communities. In Agbelekale a deep Yoruba community,one Igbo man bought three plots of lands the next thing we were hearing and I quote- The Igbo has bought all the properties", anybody can buy property but the Igbo will just be shouting everywhere claiming they have bought all the lands in Lagos. My uncle who is an estate agent in Lagos had more than two hundred houses in Lagos and you hardly hear pim from him.

christopher123:
The guy above you specified Igbo...so where did Igbo do wrong .... Is it buying properties or whatv

aswani:
Why are you dragging other tribes into it? We allknow this thread is another in the series of Ndigbo Obidients vs Ndi Yoruba shootout over Lagos.

christopher123:
so it is only Igbo that buy property in Lagos ?

So other tribes don't buy property in Lagos ?

So the Yoruba priffered bidders are Igbo people and not other people even their own people ?

Is that what you are saying

Why narrowing it to Igbo ? Must everything to you be tribalism and WE AGAINST THEM MENTALITY


You can't sell your land today and come back or send your kids tomorrow to tell the person that bought the land you own it.... That's what JIMI DISU said one time in his broadcast! And I agree with him

Lagos is a metropolitan area and this is bound to change the location and the situation