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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 9:28am On Sep 08, 2025
AirBere:
Haha lol. Diouf was very erratic to watch man. I know Diouf very well. The ability was obviously there but nothing come out long term. Inconsistent as fcck.

I think your mind is set on Diouf and me no go round around with you man. If Kane didn't join Bayern same question would've been asked of him. Adebayo was a regular at top clubs like Arsenal, Mancity(pre ban) and Spurs. Both achieved nothing at club level but one was a starter at the aforementioned clubs.

For me, there's no way Diouf did well as a footballer more than Adebayo. No way with me. But for you, there's a way so you're right.
The bolded summarise everything. And I completely agree with the bolded.

Now, since both of them achieved nothing at club level, what about National Team level? Shouldn't that be the tie breaker?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AwkwafinaBabe: 9:32am On Sep 08, 2025
Yamal really needs to work on his finishing but anyway we're gonna destroy Chelsea. La masia always the best talent factory
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 9:34am On Sep 08, 2025
afrodoc2:
Diouf had 2 years and that is it. Before 2001 he did nothing. After 2002 he did nothing.

It is on paper you can compare him to Adebayor. The clubs Diouf played for before 2002 were otu oshi. The clubs he played for after 2004 were otu oshi.

Adebayor played for Monaco in 2003 and in 2011 he was playing for Madrid and 2014 he was still playing for Spurs.
Gbam!

Even Senegalese would not pick Diouf as the best Senegalese that donned their national team colours
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 9:36am On Sep 08, 2025
andrewbaba44:
What has Kane achieved in football before he joined Bayern ,even now that he has joined Bayern he still haven’t achieved much

Someone like you will rate lesser players than Kane before they won more trophies
Please don't misquote me. And stop bringing weird analogy here.

I clearly started this conversation with "Adebayor vs Diou". Refer to my first post.

It won't be hard now you will paint it that I am rating Diouf as one of the best players Africa has ever produced.

What has Kane achievement got to do with Adebayor and Diouf?

Kane played for Spurs his whole life and upgraded to Bayern. How is that the same with Adebayor who has played for top clubs in Europe?

I asked for Adebayor's achievement to buttress the point that he flopped. Even though he played for bigger teams, he didn't achieve more than Diouf who played for, according to you, mickey mouse teams.

You rate a player based on his individual honours. What individual honours did Adebayor have over Diouf that make you rate him higher?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 9:42am On Sep 08, 2025
afrodoc2:
Diouf had 2 years and that is it. Before 2001 he did nothing. After 2002 he did nothing.

It is on paper you can compare him to Adebayor. The clubs Diouf played for before 2002 were otu oshi. The clubs he played for after 2004 were otu oshi.

Adebayor played for Monaco in 2003 and in 2011 he was playing for Madrid and 2014 he was still playing for Spurs.
That 2 years made him better than Adebayor.

I still haven't seen anything that you guys mention Adebayor did aside playing for bigger teams. I'm sure if the table was turned and Adebayor had the kind of performance Diouf had in 2002 World Cup, this place will be flooded on why Adebayor is better.

You commented on Owen few days ago. How many years did Owen had before the injury that derailed his career? But history will never forget Owen because of those 2 to 3 years.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 9:47am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Gbam!

Even Senegalese would not pick Diouf as the best Senegalese that donned their national team colours
Nobody is rating Diouf as the best Senegalese player. Make una no dey do like this.

A list was given and I observed that Diouf is better than a name on the list. How does that translate to Diouf being the best player from Senegal?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 10:07am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
Nobody is rating Diouf as the best Senegalese player. Make una no dey do like this.

A list was given and I observed that Diouf is better than a name on the list. How does that translate to Diouf being the best player from Senegal?
They've already told you how inconsistent Diouf was in his footballing performance on the pitch, you were referred to how he flopped at top clubs he played for and you were also informed about how he only had 2 great years and that was it. Somehow u still believe he is better than Adebayor who was a performing starter at not one , not two big clubs.

The only reason why I mentioned Diouf as not being the best Senegalese player is to buttress their point that Diouf is not all that. He is not the player you are painting him to be at all. We watched him play and we watched others play. Adebayor single handedly dragged Togo to the 2006 FIFA world cup ; he played in Togolese side that didn't have much superstars playing in Europe and he ended up being the highest goal scorer in the African qualifiers for the 2006 World cup.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 10:11am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
The bolded summarise everything. And I completely agree with the bolded.

Now, since both of them achieved nothing at club level, what about National Team level? Shouldn't that be the tie breaker?
Bruh, Adebayo played for Togo, Diouf played for Senegal. Senegal is significantly a better team than Togo. It's like asking what Haaland has achieved with Norway because Morata won Euros with Spain. We all know that Haaland clears Morata. Since there's a disparity at international level, we look at what they've done at club level.

On Adebayo, he was the top scorer in qualifiers, l think he scored 10-12 goals that period, can't recall correctly but I know he was top scorer African world cup qualifiers leading to 2006 world cup. His goals qualified Togo to the tournament. Togo is yet to qualify again since that time.

On that list, ability wise, Diouf like Okocha had more to give. But say do well as a professional footballer, Adebayo clears both at club level. Just like how Suarez has better ability(better player) while Benzema has achieved more as a professional footballer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 10:14am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
That 2 years made him better than Adebayor.

I still haven't seen anything that you guys mention Adebayor did aside playing for bigger teams. I'm sure if the table was turned and Adebayor had the kind of performance Diouf had in 2002 World Cup, this place will be flooded on why Adebayor is better.

You commented on Owen few days ago. How many years did Owen had before the injury that derailed his career? But history will never forget Owen because of those 2 to 3 years.
Adebayor scored 11 goals in the 2006 World cup qualifiers Playing for a Minnow team like Togo. He dragged them to the world cup being the highest goal scorer. They played against superior teams like Mali, Zambia, Congo, Liberia and Senegal in the qualifiers o.

If that doesn't add a feather to Adebayor's cap, I wonder what will convince u Adebayor was a better player than Diouf on the pitch
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 10:20am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Adebayor scored 11 goals in the 2006 World cup qualifiers Playing for a Minnow team like Togo. He dragged them to the world cup being the highest goal scorer. They played against superior teams like Mali, Zambia, Congo, Liberia and Senegal in the qualifiers o.

If that doesn't add a feather to Adebayor's cap, I wonder what will convince u Adebayor was a better player than Diouf on the pitch
Better striker....baby Kanu unlike Diouf; Lua Lua brother cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:25am On Sep 08, 2025
AirBere:
Bruh, Adebayo played for Togo, Diouf played for Senegal. Senegal is significantly a better team than Togo. It's like asking what Haaland has achieved with Norway because Morata won Euros with Spain. We all know that Haaland clears Morata. Since there's a disparity at international level, we look at what they've done at club level.

On Adebayo, he was the top scorer in qualifiers, l think he scored 10-12 goals that period, can't recall correctly but I know he was top scorer African world cup qualifiers leading to 2006 world cup. His goals qualified Togo to the tournament. Togo is yet to qualify again since that time.

On that list, ability wise, Diouf like Okocha had more to give. But say do well as a professional footballer, Adebayo clears both at club level. Just like how Suarez has better ability(better player) while Benzema has achieved more as a professional footballer.
That your bolded is exactly what you guys use to rate Diouf lower in club level and it's funny. Lol

Bruh, Diouf played for Bolton and Rangers, Adebayor played for Arsenal and Real Madrid. Real Madrid is significantly a better team than Bolton.

Do you get the twist now?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:29am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
Adebayor scored 11 goals in the 2006 World cup qualifiers Playing for a Minnow team like Togo. He dragged them to the world cup being the highest goal scorer. They played against superior teams like Mali, Zambia, Congo, Liberia and Senegal in the qualifiers o.

If that doesn't add a feather to Adebayor's cap, I wonder what will convince u Adebayor was a better player than Diouf on the pitch
And what happened in the main tournament itself?

In 2004, he was named in the FIFA 100, a list of the 125 greatest living footballers selected by Pelé in conjunction with FIFA's centenary celebrations.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 10:31am On Sep 08, 2025
AirBere:
Better striker....baby Kanu unlike Diouf; Lua Lua brother cheesy
I think he's just using Nostalgia to rate Diouf higher than the performance he displayed throughout his career.

Adebayor was runner up in the race for golden boot behind C.Ronaldo in the EPL, he had EPL goal of the season to his credit in 07/08 and also made the EPL team of that same year. Na the person he dey use compare Diouf be that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 10:32am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
That 2 years made him better than Adebayor.

I still haven't seen anything that you guys mention Adebayor did aside playing for bigger teams. I'm sure if the table was turned and Adebayor had the kind of performance Diouf had in 2002 World Cup, this place will be flooded on why Adebayor is better.

You commented on Owen few days ago. How many years did Owen had before the injury that derailed his career? But history will never forget Owen because of those 2 to 3 years.
You haven’t seen because you don’t want to see.

Diouf has those 2 years and nothing else. Outside that nothing. Outside those 2 years he was playing for otu oshi clubs and dropping otu oshi stats.

Adebayor had his 1st year when he carried Togo to the World Cup in 2006.
He had his 2nd year in 2007 when he won BBC African player of the year.
He had his 3rd year in 2008 when he won CAF player of the year AND PFA Team of the Year.

You see that PFA Team of the year. Dem no born anybody in Diouf village well to try to enter that kain team.

Outside these 3 years Adebayor had 2009-2010 when he scored 14 EPL goals. He had 2010-2012 when he scored 17 EPL goals.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 10:33am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
That your bolded is exactly what you guys use to rate Diouf lower in club level and it's funny. Lol

Bruh, Diouf played for Bolton and Rangers, Adebayor played for Arsenal and Real Madrid. Real Madrid is significantly a better team than Bolton.

Do you get the twist now?
Lol. You can't choose where to play for at international level if you're already capped. Once you're capped, I think 1,2 or 3 times you're stuck with your selected country till you retire.

At club level, it's what you do at those small clubs that'll determine where you end up. Diouf failed so hard at his first big move(Liverpool) Struggled at lowly Rangers in the freaking Scottish league wey average players dey use farm goals. Adebayo did well at Monaco, climbed to Arsenal, did well again, made a big move to City, got banned which affected his future there, joined Madrid, won Copa del Rey, then moved to Spurs and kept banging in the goals.

I still think that you're of the opinion about what he(Diouf) should've done because the potential was there but the reality is that Adebayo did better than Diouf. It's very clear brother.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 10:35am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
And what happened in the main tournament itself?
You said "I still haven't seen anything that you guys mention Adebayor did aside playing for bigger teams".

Now I showed you what he did playing for a smaller team and you are asking me what happened in the main tournament. grin

At least I have been able to show you that Adebayor was not just about playing for big teams, he was a consistent performer on the pitch both in his national colours and that of the clubs he represented. Same can't be said of Diouf.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 10:38am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I think he's just using Nostalgia to rate Diouf higher than the performance he displayed throughout his career.

Adebayor was runner up in the race for golden boot behind C.Ronaldo in the EPL, he had EPL goal of the season to his credit in 07/08 and also made the EPL team of that same year. Na the person he dey use compare Diouf be that.
I'll say nostalgia plus his potential. Yeah, Diouf had the ability but nothing come out ooo. Absolutely nothing aside the two peak years lol.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 10:40am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
That your bolded is exactly what you guys use to rate Diouf lower in club level and it's funny. Lol

Bruh, Diouf played for Bolton and Rangers, Adebayor played for Arsenal and Real Madrid. Real Madrid is significantly a better team than Bolton.

Do you get the twist now?
LOL you are comparing apples and car mirror.

Adebayor was born in Togo and Diouf was born in Senegal.

Neither of them was born in Bolton, Madrid, London so there must be a reason big clubs kept signing one of them while the other was touring yeye clubs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 10:43am On Sep 08, 2025
afrodoc:
LOL you are comparing apples and car mirror.

Adebayor was born in Togo and Diouf was born in Senegal.

Neither of them was born in Bolton, Madrid, London so there must be a reason big clubs kept signing one of them while the other was touring yeye clubs.
grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 10:59am On Sep 08, 2025
afrodoc:
You haven’t seen because you don’t want to see.

Diouf has those 2 years and nothing else. Outside that nothing. Outside those 2 years he was playing for otu oshi clubs and dropping otu oshi stats.

Adebayor had his 1st year when he carried Togo to the World Cup in 2006.
He had his 2nd year in 2007 when he won BBC African player of the year.
He had his 3rd year in 2008 when he won CAF player of the year AND PFA Team of the Year.

You see that PFA Team of the year. Dem no born anybody in Diouf village well to try to enter that kain team.

Outside these 3 years Adebayor had 2009-2010 when he scored 14 EPL goals. He had 2010-2012 when he scored 17 EPL goals.
Dem born anybody well for Adebayor village to make FIFA all star team grin...... Or maybe PFA dey more prestigious pass FIFA all star team lol.

Dem no born anybody for Adebayor village wey go make FIFA 100.... Abi England FA dey more prestigious than FIFA? lol.

Diouf also won BBC Player of the year. Lol....

Diouf won African Player of the year award back to back... Dem no born Adebayor to try am..

Fact is, Diouf used those 2 years you called "just" to achieve what Adebayor cannot achieve in all his football career.

If Adebayor was that prolific in front of goal, all these goals you quote that he scored would have been double or more. No be the same Adebayor wey all of us watch? Adebayor that need 60 chances before scoring a goal? How many golden boot those goals win for am?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:00am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
I think he's just using Nostalgia to rate Diouf higher than the performance he displayed throughout his career.

Adebayor was runner up in the race for golden boot behind C.Ronaldo in the EPL, he had EPL goal of the season to his credit in 07/08 and also made the EPL team of that same year. Na the person he dey use compare Diouf be that.
We are talking of individual achievements you dey talk of runner up grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:04am On Sep 08, 2025
AirBere:
Lol. You can't choose where to play for at international level if you're already capped. Once you're capped, I think 1,2 or 3 times you're stuck with your selected country till you retire.

At club level, it's what you do at those small clubs that'll determine where you end up. Diouf failed so hard at his first big move(Liverpool) Struggled at lowly Rangers in the freaking Scottish league wey average players dey use farm goals. Adebayo did well at Monaco, climbed to Arsenal, did well again, made a big move to City, got banned which affected his future there, joined Madrid, won Copa del Rey, then moved to Spurs and kept banging in the goals.

I still think that you're of the opinion about what he(Diouf) should've done because the potential was there but the reality is that Adebayo did better than Diouf. It's very clear brother.
Stop mentioning ban abeg.. Diouf was banned twice in his career.

For Adebayor to have played all those big clubs and you are still struggling to name an award he won for himself is proof that he flopped badly.

Diouf can proudly counter Adebayor's Copa Del Rey with his own Carling Cup. So what are we talking about?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:05am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
You said "I still haven't seen anything that you guys mention Adebayor did aside playing for bigger teams".

Now I showed you what he did playing for a smaller team and you are asking me what happened in the main tournament. grin

At least I have been able to show you that Adebayor was not just about playing for big teams, he was a consistent performer on the pitch both in his national colours and that of the clubs he represented. Same can't be said of Diouf.
What if I showed you what Diouf won in a smaller club? Will that make you rate him?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by andrewbaba44: 11:05am On Sep 08, 2025
Na diouf deserve that dragging wey raumdeuter Dey give okocha cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:06am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
We are talking of individual achievements you dey talk of runner up grin
So that's the only thing u saw there abi? Why didn't you comment on the fact that Adebayor scored 11 goals to drag Togo to their first and only world cup appearance?

Why din't you speak to the fact that Adebayor performed at the top teams he played for while Diouf flopped scandalously?

Diouf kor, Djemba Djemba ni.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 11:07am On Sep 08, 2025
andrewbaba44:
Na diouf deserve that dragging wey raumdeuter Dey give okocha cheesy
Diouf that is known mainly for spitting at other players. grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:10am On Sep 08, 2025
afrodoc:
LOL you are comparing apples and car mirror.

Adebayor was born in Togo and Diouf was born in Senegal.

Neither of them was born in Bolton, Madrid, London so there must be a reason big clubs kept signing one of them while the other was touring yeye clubs.
I really really want to keep this discourse on just Adebayor vs Diouf but this your bolded is tempting me to bring in Okocha for the sole reason of one person playing for smaller clubs while the other keep signing for big clubs. If u may ask, did Okocha play for bigger clubs than Adebayor? Why did you rate Okocha higher than Adebayor in that list? Shouldn't Adebayor be higher because there must be a reason he played for Arsenal and Madrid while Okocha played for Bolton and Hull?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 11:12am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
So that's the only thing u saw there abi? Why didn't you comment on the fact that Adebayor scored 11 goals to drag Togo to their first and only world cup appearance?

Why din't you speak to the fact that Adebayor performed at the top teams he played for while Diouf flopped scandalously?

Diouf kor, Djemba Djemba ni.
Those of us that watched the mega way Diouf flopped at Liverpool can't be deceived. In his 2nd and final season, he played 33 games and scored ZERO goal. Goalkeeper stats. grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:13am On Sep 08, 2025
BlueRayDick:
So that's the only thing u saw there abi? Why didn't you comment on the fact that Adebayor scored 11 goals to drag Togo to their first and only world cup appearance?

Why din't you speak to the fact that Adebayor performed at the top teams he played for while Diouf flopped scandalously?

Diouf kor, Djemba Djemba ni.
Adebayor did NOT perform at the top teams! His goals won nothing for Arsenal, City, Spurs. His goal won him zero golden boot.

How exactly did he perform in those big clubs?

Diouf can boast of SPL in small Rangers.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 11:13am On Sep 08, 2025
timbros:
What if I showed you what Diouf won in a smaller club? Will that make you rate him?
No, show me the number of goals scored by Diouf in his club career and also show the number of goals he scored at the national team level playing for a star studded Senegal team.

Let us check who is the most prolific goal scorer between the two of them.

You are the one who falsely claimed Adebayor didn't do anything apart from playing for big teams and I had to show you his achievement with African Minnows like Togo to clear that false claim. What he did is tantamount to a single player dragging minnows like Lichtsteiner or Luxembourg to the World cup
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by timbros(m): 11:14am On Sep 08, 2025
afrodoc:
Those of us that watched the mega way Diouf flopped at Liverpool can't be deceived. In his 2nd and final season, he played 33 games and scored ZERO goal. Goalkeeper stats. grin grin grin
He has FIFA recognition. That's something Adebayor can only dream of.

He performed in the highest level in football: World Cup.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc(m): 11:16am On Sep 08, 2025
El Hadj Diouf stats for Liverpool in 2003-2004.

13 yellow cards. 1 red card. 0 goal.

Na Taribo West stats be dat? grin grin grin
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