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Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Kukutente23: 9:52am On Sep 08, 2025
aribisala0:
That is not a goog example
What has happened to non oil revenue under Tinubu'?

You cannot pick and choose when to use that argument

There are many good arguments against Tinubu but the opposition is incompetent
They have nothing to offer
Do you have evidence that they have nothing to offer
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Timmi: 9:55am On Sep 08, 2025
The poverty he couldn't eradicate nor reduce while El-Rufai was the Chief Executive of Kaduna State for 8-years. Talk is cheap and empty barrel making the loudest noise.

Ofunaofu:
https://dailypost.ng/2025/09/07/nigerians-poorer-now-than-1960-el-rufai-tells-tinubu-govt-how-to-end-poverty/
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by benardtotti(m): 10:02am On Sep 08, 2025
Ofunaofu:
https://dailypost.ng/2025/09/07/nigerians-poorer-now-than-1960-el-rufai-tells-tinubu-govt-how-to-end-poverty/
But you didn't tell buhari this idea when he initiated the humanitarian affairs ministry? SMH.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by RolexOfGeneva(m): 10:26am On Sep 08, 2025
princeade86:
U were part of it sir. U brought this to every saner citizens.

Second FTC of the day. Happy Sunday to u all.
Focus on the message, not the messenger
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by anonimi: 10:26am On Sep 08, 2025
Lifestone:
A fresh face with no baggage will be better, El-Rufai face will cause more distractions and it stinks in his mouth to complain about what he's part of the Chief actor (a Professor Pat Utomi would have been better)
If he and others who you believe have no baggage are unavailable, then what other alternative is there for the opposition to get us back to PDP prosperous years?


Buhari’ll reduce petrol to N40/L —David-West

FORMER Minister of Petroleum and Energy, Prof. Tamunoemi David-West, said that Nigerians should expect sharp drop in petrol price from the current N87 to about N40 per litre, saying, “the president-elect, Gen. Mohammed Buhari, will reduce the fuel pump price to N40 per litre.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/buharill-reduce-petrol-to-n40l-david-west/
Petrol should never cost more than N70 per litre, says APC

January 19, 2015

The All Progressives Congress (APC) has described as mere tokenism the reduction of petrol price from N97 to N87 per litre, saying the petroleum product ordinarily should sell for N70.

On Sunday, the federal government announced the reduction of petrol price, citing the fall of global crude oil price.

But the APC through Lai Mohammed, its spokesman, on Monday accused the government of making a show out of deceit, saying “a 10.3 per cent slash in the price of petrol was a mere tokenism at a time the price of crude oil has crashed by about 60 per cent”.

It argued that the pump price of a litre of petrol should not be more than 70 Naira, alleging that at N87 per litre, the government was forcing Nigerians to subsidise the massive corruption in the oil sector by N17 for every litre of fuel.

https://www.thecable.ng/petrol-never-cost-n70-per-litre-says-apc/
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Lifestone(m): 10:44am On Sep 08, 2025
anonimi:
If he and others who you believe have no baggage are unavailable, then what other alternative is there for the opposition to get us back to PDP prosperous years?




Petrol should never cost more than N70 per litre, says APC

January 19, 2015

The All Progressives Congress (APC) has described as mere tokenism the reduction of petrol price from N97 to N87 per litre, saying the petroleum product ordinarily should sell for N70.

On Sunday, the federal government announced the reduction of petrol price, citing the fall of global crude oil price.

But the APC through Lai Mohammed, its spokesman, on Monday accused the government of making a show out of deceit, saying “a 10.3 per cent slash in the price of petrol was a mere tokenism at a time the price of crude oil has crashed by about 60 per cent”.

It argued that the pump price of a litre of petrol should not be more than 70 Naira, alleging that at N87 per litre, the government was forcing Nigerians to subsidise the massive corruption in the oil sector by N17 for every litre of fuel.

https://www.thecable.ng/petrol-never-cost-n70-per-litre-says-apc/
I hope you never thought I'm APC or a Fan of APC, but having El-Rufai represents the face of opposition will be terrible, he's a soft target. PDP as a Party will do a better job once they get rid of nuisances within them.
El-Rufai, El-NO
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Munashak: 10:46am On Sep 08, 2025
After leaving kaduna state with tones of loans such that it now takes the present governor prayers and fasting to pay salary. A man who supported buhari's misrule and also used political card to deceive the gullible into voting this same government.If he was giving minister, he would not have been this restless
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by COMPAQ(m): 11:40am On Sep 08, 2025
Ofunaofu:
https://dailypost.ng/2025/09/07/nigerians-poorer-now-than-1960-el-rufai-tells-tinubu-govt-how-to-end-poverty/
Somebody who devastated Southern Kaduna because they are mainly Christians. Even the Northern Kaduna that are his fellow Muslims, how many people did he bring out of poverty in 8years as Governor??
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 11:42am On Sep 08, 2025
Lithiumite:
So tinubu made nigerians poorer than they were in 1960 in just 2 years......several decades of misgovernance and poor economic handling should be tinubu's fault and he should take the entire massses out of poverty in barely 2 years.

Your submissions reeks of evil sentimentalism and a despicably incoherent ideologue at best......we should keep the subsidy fraud so nigerians will be able to get cheaper fuel or continue defending the naira with borrowing so we can have cheaper dollars then we can have people not hungry again in Nigeria,that's the stale line of all you against tinubu......how many out of school children did el rufai make,how much of the vast agricultural potential of that state did he harness so there won't be poor people in kd again,we all know how badly under developed southern Kaduna is due to his strategically planned politics of exclusion and discrimination.
You are deliberately twisting the argument. Nobody is claiming Tinubu created poverty from 1960; the point is that under his short watch, poverty has deepened, inflation has skyrocketed, the naira has collapsed, and life has become unbearable for millions of Nigerians. That is not a legacy of 1960—it is the direct consequence of his reckless policies since May 2023.

Tinubu campaigned on competence and “Renewed Hope,” not on recycling excuses about past leaders. If he knew subsidy removal and naira floatation would throw Nigerians into untold suffering without proper safeguards, then why rush into them without a safety net? Leadership is about anticipating consequences and cushioning your people, not gambling with their survival.

As for El-Rufai, his record in Kaduna does not erase the fact that Tinubu’s government is failing at the national level. Nigerians did not elect El-Rufai in 2023—they elected Tinubu. And Tinubu must answer for the hunger, unemployment, and despair that are now worse than ever under his administration.

Excuses won’t feed Nigerians. Tinubu has run out of rhetoric—the suffering is real.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by emmaodet: 12:05pm On Sep 08, 2025
nairalanda1:
On the tax issue, the fact is, oil has been below what we need it to be

This year's budget was made based on the assumption oil would be 75 dollars per barrel, and even then we had to borrow 13 tr to keep things up. Oil has been below 70 dollars per barrel since January ending. In June it even went below 60 dollars per barrel.

Result...taxes and more loans.

And that's not all....to have a budget without borrowing, we have to have oil between 103-150 dollars per barrel. Scary.
Why not cut the budget to $50 per barrel?
Who spends more than they earn if not a stupid man.
If am earning 500k per month, why should I be planning my lifestyle on 1m per month.
Who does that?
Cut down spendings and expenditures.
Roads, rail, power can be outsourced to private investors by issuing license for them to do it and run it for 50 years to get back their money before returning it back to government
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Lithiumite: 12:17pm On Sep 08, 2025
JimRohn:
You are deliberately twisting the argument. Nobody is claiming Tinubu created poverty from 1960; the point is that under his short watch, poverty has deepened, inflation has skyrocketed, the naira has collapsed, and life has become unbearable for millions of Nigerians. That is not a legacy of 1960—it is the direct consequence of his reckless policies since May 2023.

Tinubu campaigned on competence and “Renewed Hope,” not on recycling excuses about past leaders. If he knew subsidy removal and naira floatation would throw Nigerians into untold suffering without proper safeguards, then why rush into them without a safety net? Leadership is about anticipating consequences and cushioning your people, not gambling with their survival.

As for El-Rufai, his record in Kaduna does not erase the fact that Tinubu’s government is failing at the national level. Nigerians did not elect El-Rufai in 2023—they elected Tinubu. And Tinubu must answer for the hunger, unemployment, and despair that are now worse than ever under his administration.

Excuses won’t feed Nigerians. Tinubu has run out of rhetoric—the suffering is real.
Naira peaked at almost 2k to the usd,today it's about a 1/4 less

Pms went well over a thousand per liter now it's about 860

Inflation as slowed since 2nd quarter this year from its high rate

Rice was at about 100k per 50kg bag,now it's about 60k.

Minimum wage was about 30k now it's 70k and some states are even beating that.

No state is currently owing workers salary as was the norm in the past.

State govs are all jubillating that tinubu's policies has given them room to be able to embark on more projects due to increased allocations.

We have been having trade surpluses for about 4 quarters consecutively as against deficits in the past.

We have improved on our crude oil production from about 1.2mbpd to about 1.8mbpd now.

There is renewed and improve investment drive in our oil and gas sector.

We are now a net exporter of petrol

Our foreign reserves has shot up from what tinubu met it.

We no longer resort to borrowing to pay salaries as was the case under gej and buhari.

Govt is no longer crowding out real businesses from the domestic debt market as revenue targets have already been met- non oil.

We have a lesser debt servicing to revenue ratio of over 90% when he came in to about 60% now.

Forex backlogs that was always the problem in the buhari days have been cleared and businesses are happier for that.

We no longer strangle the cbn with ways and means requirements to fund govt..

We could go on and on but despite all these,you still say this govt has made nigerians poorer? Fear God.

How many schools dis el rufai build how much success dis he make in providing free education and healthcare,what is your state govt doing with it's allocations monthly.

Legacy projects are still on going such as the Lagos calabar,badagry sokoto,akk gas pipe line ,bonny bodo bridge,Abuja calabar highway etc,subsidise cancer and kidney treatments, increment in pensions to retirees,continued access to subsidised retroviral drugs for HIV patients despite trumps madness.

You still say nigerians are poorer.....you and your el rufai can continue with your propaganda but you and I know it's doa because nigerians are wiser and they know el rufai is no different from the others,we would rather continue with tinubu than any of those charlatans who only want access to power for their self aggrandizement.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by mp3ree: 2:03pm On Sep 08, 2025
adekolaelect:
Stop giving yourselves fake hope . No Government can take Nigerians poeples out of poverty but themselves. Rufai was a governor for 8 years , he was a minicrewster for 12 years if not more . What poverty has he eradicated from his poeple before he start speaking like motivational speakers only when power no dey with him in the just 2 years ago?
El Rufai the magician
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 2:06pm On Sep 08, 2025
Lithiumite:
Naira peaked at almost 2k to the usd,today it's about a 1/4 less

Pms went well over a thousand per liter now it's about 860

Inflation as slowed since 2nd quarter this year from its high rate

Rice was at about 100k per 50kg bag,now it's about 60k.

Minimum wage was about 30k now it's 70k and some states are even beating that.

No state is currently owing workers salary as was the norm in the past.

State govs are all jubillating that tinubu's policies has given them room to be able to embark on more projects due to increased allocations.

We have been having trade surpluses for about 4 quarters consecutively as against deficits in the past.

We have improved on our crude oil production from about 1.2mbpd to about 1.8mbpd now.

There is renewed and improve investment drive in our oil and gas sector.

We are now a net exporter of petrol

Our foreign reserves has shot up from what tinubu met it.

We no longer resort to borrowing to pay salaries as was the case under gej and buhari.

Govt is no longer crowding out real businesses from the domestic debt market as revenue targets have already been met- non oil.

We have a lesser debt servicing to revenue ratio of over 90% when he came in to about 60% now.

Forex backlogs that was always the problem in the buhari days have been cleared and businesses are happier for that.

We no longer strangle the cbn with ways and means requirements to fund govt..

We could go on and on but despite all these,you still say this govt has made nigerians poorer? Fear God.

How many schools dis el rufai build how much success dis he make in providing free education and healthcare,what is your state govt doing with it's allocations monthly.

Legacy projects are still on going such as the Lagos calabar,badagry sokoto,akk gas pipe line ,bonny bodo bridge,Abuja calabar highway etc,subsidise cancer and kidney treatments, increment in pensions to retirees,continued access to subsidised retroviral drugs for HIV patients despite trumps madness.

You still say nigerians are poorer.....you and your el rufai can continue with your propaganda but you and I know it's doa because nigerians are wiser and they know el rufai is no different from the others,we would rather continue with tinubu than any of those charlatans who only want access to power for their self aggrandizement.
Your entire submission is a classic case of propaganda dressed up as “progress.” You cherry-pick figures, twist half-truths, and expect Nigerians to clap while they are sinking deeper into poverty. Let’s be clear: no amount of cooked statistics will change the reality Nigerians face daily — hunger, joblessness, insecurity, and despair.

You boast about the naira “stabilizing” after crashing beyond 2,000/$ under Tinubu’s reckless watch. Who caused that chaos in the first place? You hail petrol “down” to ₦860 — is that supposed to be an achievement when it was barely ₦200 before Tinubu’s ill-prepared subsidy removal? A 50kg bag of rice at ₦60k is still a nightmare for millions who can’t even afford ₦10k. And don’t insult Nigerians with minimum wage talk — how many states are actually paying ₦70k, and does that wage buy half of what ₦30k bought three years ago?

You talk about “trade surplus” and “foreign reserves” as if that feeds the poor or lowers transport fares. Go to the markets, go to the streets, go to the hospitals — Nigerians are suffering more today than ever. Tinubu has delivered nothing but deeper hardship and fake economic jargon meant to distract.

Legacy projects? Nigerians don’t eat bridges. They don’t cook gas pipelines. They need affordable food, stable power, secure lives, and real jobs — all of which Tinubu has failed to provide.

Stop insulting people’s intelligence. Nigerians are not blind. The verdict on Tinubu is clear: he has failed, he is failing, and no propaganda will erase that fact.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by sreamsense: 2:32pm On Sep 08, 2025
SmartPolician:
Don't focus on the messenger; focus on the message. This mentality of yours has kept Nigeria a shit-hole country. I don't understand what's wrong with the black man! If those who invented everything we use today had your kind of mentality, the world would've still been in the stone age.

I don't blame you though; you have seen some of the worst of us without ideas take turns to ruin this country. That's why you think it cannot be done. Nigeria needs innovative compatriots to get in the driving seat and change our lachrymose economic situation.
How can you focus on the message of the messenger when the message itself has never worked for the messager in any way in the past?

Only obidients that are romancing with El-rufai they moved tagged terrorist, enemy of ndigbo, jihadist, fullani-herdsman, body bag etc can be deceived because of Tinubu hatred. ADC and LP are only wasting their time, Tinubu will win election by God's grace in 2027 even before 2pm. As at 4pm, obidients will start their usual anthem, "..they rig election for Tinubu.."
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Lithiumite: 3:46pm On Sep 08, 2025
JimRohn:
Your entire submission is a classic case of propaganda dressed up as “progress.” You cherry-pick figures, twist half-truths, and expect Nigerians to clap while they are sinking deeper into poverty. Let’s be clear: no amount of cooked statistics will change the reality Nigerians face daily — hunger, joblessness, insecurity, and despair.

You boast about the naira “stabilizing” after crashing beyond 2,000/$ under Tinubu’s reckless watch. Who caused that chaos in the first place? You hail petrol “down” to ₦860 — is that supposed to be an achievement when it was barely ₦200 before Tinubu’s ill-prepared subsidy removal? A 50kg bag of rice at ₦60k is still a nightmare for millions who can’t even afford ₦10k. And don’t insult Nigerians with minimum wage talk — how many states are actually paying ₦70k, and does that wage buy half of what ₦30k bought three years ago?

You talk about “trade surplus” and “foreign reserves” as if that feeds the poor or lowers transport fares. Go to the markets, go to the streets, go to the hospitals — Nigerians are suffering more today than ever. Tinubu has delivered nothing but deeper hardship and fake economic jargon meant to distract.

Legacy projects? Nigerians don’t eat bridges. They don’t cook gas pipelines. They need affordable food, stable power, secure lives, and real jobs — all of which Tinubu has failed to provide.

Stop insulting people’s intelligence. Nigerians are not blind. The verdict on Tinubu is clear: he has failed, he is failing, and no propaganda will erase that fact.
Singapore,Saudi Arabia etc aren't feeding the poor with the king if parlous foreign reserves we have.....your analogy is nothing but half truths pinned to the heads of Dundee heads who can't think...... we should keep buying fuel at 200 naira so govt can keep borrowing to subsidise the same petrol that's more beneficial to the rich than the poor......we should keep exchanging subsidised dollars for the rich to the tune of 1.5b usd monthly by borrowing as we can't afford it......is that what your el rufai and his Co travellers are coming with .... thanks a lot we did rather pass.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Spandau: 4:27pm On Sep 08, 2025
Streetinvestor2:
Malam is doing the good work. He will finish SW president up north before 2027.By next yr he will be sharing the massages in hausa and fulani language to spread all over north. And for performance, he is the best governor of kaduna after makarafi.Then the best minister of Abuja.
How is the free laptop and hunger induced monetisation begging from naira land.
I hope SW president does not go beyond BP with what mallam is doing as he is in hospital in Europe
See how you're projecting and trying so desperately to voice your evil wishes on Tinubu because you can't compete with the SW. Your candidate will never be president and Elrufai will continue to suffer defeats and disgrace.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Spandau: 4:34pm On Sep 08, 2025
JimRohn:
Your entire submission is a classic case of propaganda dressed up as “progress.” You cherry-pick figures, twist half-truths, and expect Nigerians to clap while they are sinking deeper into poverty. Let’s be clear: no amount of cooked statistics will change the reality Nigerians face daily — hunger, joblessness, insecurity, and despair.

You boast about the naira “stabilizing” after crashing beyond 2,000/$ under Tinubu’s reckless watch. Who caused that chaos in the first place? You hail petrol “down” to ₦860 — is that supposed to be an achievement when it was barely ₦200 before Tinubu’s ill-prepared subsidy removal? A 50kg bag of rice at ₦60k is still a nightmare for millions who can’t even afford ₦10k. And don’t insult Nigerians with minimum wage talk — how many states are actually paying ₦70k, and does that wage buy half of what ₦30k bought three years ago?

You talk about “trade surplus” and “foreign reserves” as if that feeds the poor or lowers transport fares. Go to the markets, go to the streets, go to the hospitals — Nigerians are suffering more today than ever. Tinubu has delivered nothing but deeper hardship and fake economic jargon meant to distract.

Legacy projects? Nigerians don’t eat bridges. They don’t cook gas pipelines. They need affordable food, stable power, secure lives, and real jobs — all of which Tinubu has failed to provide.

Stop insulting people’s intelligence. Nigerians are not blind. The verdict on Tinubu is clear: he has failed, he is failing, and no propaganda will erase that fact.
Whether you like it or not, you will pass through this phase because Nigeria needs to be structured. Obi will never be president and Elrufai doesn't give a damn about you.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 4:56pm On Sep 08, 2025
Lithiumite:
Singapore,Saudi Arabia etc aren't feeding the poor with the king if parlous foreign reserves we have.....your analogy is nothing but half truths pinned to the heads of Dundee heads who can't think...... we should keep buying fuel at 200 naira so govt can keep borrowing to subsidise the same petrol that's more beneficial to the rich than the poor......we should keep exchanging subsidised dollars for the rich to the tune of 1.5b usd monthly by borrowing as we can't afford it......is that what your el rufai and his Co travellers are coming with .... thanks a lot we did rather pass.
Your response only exposes the emptiness of Tinubu’s defenders — loud on insults, empty on logic. Dragging Singapore and Saudi Arabia into Nigeria’s mess is laughable. Those countries built strong institutions, invested in real infrastructure, created jobs, and empowered their citizens long before tightening subsidies. Tinubu, on the other hand, removed subsidies overnight with zero planning, no cushioning, and no regard for the poor. That is not reform — that is reckless economic butchery.

You keep screaming “subsidy benefits the rich,” but today it is the poor man trekking miles, unable to afford ₦860/litre petrol. It is the poor mother crying at the market because rice is ₦60k. It is the poor child starving because transport fares swallowed school fees. What exactly has Tinubu given the poor in return? Nothing but hunger and excuses.

And stop pretending subsidy removal and dollar floatation were “bold reforms.” They were blind gambles that collapsed the naira, wiped out savings, and plunged millions below the poverty line. Leadership is not about throwing your people into fire and then clapping because you reduced the flames a little — it is about preventing the fire in the first place.

You call people “Dundee heads,” but the real Dundee is a government that promised Renewed Hope and delivered renewed suffering. Nigerians are not fooled — we see through the propaganda. Tinubu has failed. He is failing. And no amount of shouting “El-Rufai” will wash away that failure.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by nairalanda1(m): 4:59pm On Sep 08, 2025
emmaodet:
Why not cut the budget to $50 per barrel?
That would mean salary cuts, cuts in a lot of areas and more borrowing.

NIgeria needs oil above 100 dollars per barrel...to at least have a budget that makes sense. We have a high population struggling for revenue from less than 2m bpd oil. Even if we did not do corruption, we would still end up with issues. Corruption makes matters worse.

That is why short term, diversification and yes taxation, long term, Nigeria must become an exporter of manufactured goods, industrial goods, industrial services.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 5:04pm On Sep 08, 2025
Spandau:
Whether you like it or not, you will pass through this phase because Nigeria needs to be structured. Obi will never be president and Elrufai doesn't give a damn about you.
Your arrogance only proves the bankruptcy of Tinubu’s defenders. When a government has no results to show, its supporters resort to threats, insults, and empty prophecies about who “will never be president.” Nigerians are not interested in your fortune-telling — they are interested in survival, dignity, and leadership that works.

“Passing through a phase” is not an excuse for multiplying hardship. Poverty is not reform. Hunger is not progress. Tinubu promised Renewed Hope but delivered renewed suffering, and no amount of political arrogance will blind Nigerians to that fact.

Obi, El-Rufai, or anyone else is not the issue here — the issue is Tinubu’s catastrophic failure in just one year. Nigerians did not elect excuses, they elected solutions. If your only defense is “endure the pain,” then you are openly admitting Tinubu has failed to govern responsibly.

Mark this: the people who put Tinubu in power can also remove him. Nobody is above accountability. Nigerians endured Jonathan, rejected Buhari, and if Tinubu continues on this path of reckless suffering, he too will be thrown out by the same people you now insult.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Spandau: 5:56pm On Sep 08, 2025
JimRohn:
Your arrogance only proves the bankruptcy of Tinubu’s defenders. When a government has no results to show, its supporters resort to threats, insults, and empty prophecies about who “will never be president.” Nigerians are not interested in your fortune-telling — they are interested in survival, dignity, and leadership that works.

“Passing through a phase” is not an excuse for multiplying hardship. Poverty is not reform. Hunger is not progress. Tinubu promised Renewed Hope but delivered renewed suffering, and no amount of political arrogance will blind Nigerians to that fact.

Obi, El-Rufai, or anyone else is not the issue here — the issue is Tinubu’s catastrophic failure in just one year. Nigerians did not elect excuses, they elected solutions. If your only defense is “endure the pain,” then you are openly admitting Tinubu has failed to govern responsibly.

Mark this: the people who put Tinubu in power can also remove him. Nobody is above accountability. Nigerians endured Jonathan, rejected Buhari, and if Tinubu continues on this path of reckless suffering, he too will be thrown out by the same people you now insult.
You will pass through this phase and Obi will never be president, seeh!! No that and know peace.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 6:24pm On Sep 08, 2025
Spandau:
You will pass through this phase and Obi will never be president, seeh!! No that and know peace.
Repeating “you will pass through this phase” like a broken record only exposes the emptiness of Tinubu’s defenders. Nigerians are not asking for fortune-tellers, they are asking for food on their tables, security in their communities, and value for their hard-earned naira. Tinubu has failed to deliver any of these.

Obi, El-Rufai, or whoever is irrelevant to this discussion — the real issue is Tinubu’s catastrophic failure in office. Hiding behind “phases” is nothing but cowardice and propaganda. Poverty is not a phase. Hunger is not a phase. Collapse of the naira is not a phase. They are the direct results of Tinubu’s reckless and selfish policies.

And let me remind you: no president is untouchable. Nigerians voted out Jonathan, they rejected Buhari, and they can and will do the same to Tinubu if he continues on this path of destruction. Power belongs to the people — not to arrogant politicians and their blind defenders.

So keep chanting “Obi will never be president” if it helps you sleep at night. The truth remains: Tinubu has failed, Nigerians are suffering, and no propaganda will erase that reality.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Lithiumite: 7:52pm On Sep 08, 2025
JimRohn:
Your response only exposes the emptiness of Tinubu’s defenders — loud on insults, empty on logic. Dragging Singapore and Saudi Arabia into Nigeria’s mess is laughable. Those countries built strong institutions, invested in real infrastructure, created jobs, and empowered their citizens long before tightening subsidies. Tinubu, on the other hand, removed subsidies overnight with zero planning, no cushioning, and no regard for the poor. That is not reform — that is reckless economic butchery.

You keep screaming “subsidy benefits the rich,” but today it is the poor man trekking miles, unable to afford ₦860/litre petrol. It is the poor mother crying at the market because rice is ₦60k. It is the poor child starving because transport fares swallowed school fees. What exactly has Tinubu given the poor in return? Nothing but hunger and excuses.

And stop pretending subsidy removal and dollar floatation were “bold reforms.” They were blind gambles that collapsed the naira, wiped out savings, and plunged millions below the poverty line. Leadership is not about throwing your people into fire and then clapping because you reduced the flames a little — it is about preventing the fire in the first place.

You call people “Dundee heads,” but the real Dundee is a government that promised Renewed Hope and delivered renewed suffering. Nigerians are not fooled — we see through the propaganda. Tinubu has failed. He is failing. And no amount of shouting “El-Rufai” will wash away that failure.
Your lame treatise only serves comic relief to whoever is reading.....Saudi and Singapore didn't take the tough decisions but just got to where they are overnight with no hard reforms and sweat? Hope you see how laughable your logic is and the sad part is there are so many illogical ones who would lap on that and pin such superfluous narrative to their heads and run with it.....there is no easy way out for Nigeria considering how far down the abyss we were economically.......a country that had a bigger recurrent expenditure as against capital side,a country borrowing to pay salaries,a country with a debt to GDP of almost 100%.....a country that was printing money running into trillions to run govt via ways and means from cbn......what easy way?

A country that was hemorrhaging billions on fraudulent subsidy regime and you would be happy with that and not care in so far you were able to buy fuel at 200 and dollar at 700 to import all manner of irrelevant things just to give you a false sense of prosperity.

I expected you to juxtapose the points raised earlier fact for fact to show us how in your opinion the economy is tanking but you rather throw empty pedestrian rhetorics about hunger and poverty like it's only in Nigeria we have hungry people......that's all your el rufai and your ilk are banking on to away the gullible to buy their jaundiced narrative on why they should be chosen ahead of tinubu.....bloody jokers they are, pathetic clowns....we know better!!!
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Shimbo96(m): 8:18pm On Sep 08, 2025
SmartPolician:
Don't focus on the messenger; focus on the message. This mentality of yours has kept Nigeria a shit-hole country. I don't understand what's wrong with the black man! If those who invented everything we use today had your kind of mentality, the world would've still been in the stone age.

I don't blame you though; you have seen some of the worst of us without ideas take turns to ruin this country. That's why you think it cannot be done. Nigeria needs innovative compatriots to get in the driving seat and change our lachrymose economic situation.
why is the messenger waiting for more 20yrs before spewing this gibberish? I guess the innovative compatriots you are talking about is ATIKU/ OBI & CO? wake up bro.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 9:01pm On Sep 08, 2025
Lithiumite:
Your lame treatise only serves comic relief to whoever is reading.....Saudi and Singapore didn't take the tough decisions but just got to where they are overnight with no hard reforms and sweat? Hope you see how laughable your logic is and the sad part is there are so many illogical ones who would lap on that and pin such superfluous narrative to their heads and run with it.....there is no easy way out for Nigeria considering how far down the abyss we were economically.......a country that had a bigger recurrent expenditure as against capital side,a country borrowing to pay salaries,a country with a debt to GDP of almost 100%.....a country that was printing money running into trillions to run govt via ways and means from cbn......what easy way?

A country that was hemorrhaging billions on fraudulent subsidy regime and you would be happy with that and not care in so far you were able to buy fuel at 200 and dollar at 700 to import all manner of irrelevant things just to give you a false sense of prosperity.

I expected you to juxtapose the points raised earlier fact for fact to show us how in your opinion the economy is tanking but you rather throw empty pedestrian rhetorics about hunger and poverty like it's only in Nigeria we have hungry people......that's all your el rufai and your ilk are banking on to away the gullible to buy their jaundiced narrative on why they should be chosen ahead of tinubu.....bloody jokers they are, pathetic clowns....we know better!!!
Your attempt at sounding intelligent collapses under its own hypocrisy. You hide behind “tough reforms” to justify Tinubu’s recklessness, but real reforms are planned, phased, and cushioned to protect citizens — not rushed overnight like a gambler on cheap steroids. Singapore and Saudi Arabia did not butcher their people with hunger first; they invested in education, industrialization, and infrastructure before subsidy removals. That’s why their citizens prospered. Tinubu only knows how to inflict pain without solutions.

You say subsidy was fraudulent — fine. But where are the savings? Where are the safety nets? Where is the affordable transport, stable power, and food security to justify ₦860/litre fuel? Instead, Tinubu hands the so-called savings to governors who squander them, while ordinary Nigerians trek, starve, and beg. That is not reform, that is organized robbery.

And stop insulting Nigerians with this childish “every country has hungry people.” Hunger in Nigeria is not some random global problem — it is a direct consequence of Tinubu’s ill-prepared policies. Before May 2023, people could afford fuel at ₦200, rice at ₦30k, and transport fares that didn’t swallow half their salaries. Under Tinubu, all that collapsed in one year. That is not inherited — that is created.

Your “facts” about GDP, borrowing, and deficits only prove Buhari’s failures, not Tinubu’s brilliance. Tinubu did not inherit paradise, but he has turned a bad situation into hellfire. Leadership is about solutions, not excuses. Nigerians don’t eat GDP ratios or foreign reserves; they eat food, they pay rent, they send children to school. And in all these, Tinubu has failed woefully.

So call El-Rufai and others “clowns” if it makes you feel better. The real clown is a president who begged for power for decades, claimed he was ready, and then collapsed the economy within months. Tinubu is not a reformer — he is a reckless opportunist. Nigerians see it, they feel it, and in 2027 they will remind you and your ilk that power belongs to the people, not to arrogant propagandists.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Spandau: 11:25am On Sep 09, 2025
JimRohn:
Repeating “you will pass through this phase” like a broken record only exposes the emptiness of Tinubu’s defenders. Nigerians are not asking for fortune-tellers, they are asking for food on their tables, security in their communities, and value for their hard-earned naira. Tinubu has failed to deliver any of these.

Obi, El-Rufai, or whoever is irrelevant to this discussion — the real issue is Tinubu’s catastrophic failure in office. Hiding behind “phases” is nothing but cowardice and propaganda. Poverty is not a phase. Hunger is not a phase. Collapse of the naira is not a phase. They are the direct results of Tinubu’s reckless and selfish policies.

And let me remind you: no president is untouchable. Nigerians voted out Jonathan, they rejected Buhari, and they can and will do the same to Tinubu if he continues on this path of destruction. Power belongs to the people — not to arrogant politicians and their blind defenders.

So keep chanting “Obi will never be president” if it helps you sleep at night. The truth remains: Tinubu has failed, Nigerians are suffering, and no propaganda will erase that reality.
You will pass through this phase and Obi nor any Ibo man will ever be president of the country.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 12:10pm On Sep 09, 2025
Spandau:
You will pass through this phase and Obi nor any Ibo man will ever be president of the country.
Your reply exposes not only the emptiness of your argument but also the deep-rooted prejudice Tinubu’s blind supporters hide behind when logic fails them. Reducing Nigeria’s future to tribal insults is the last refuge of those defending failure. Leadership is not about Yoruba, Igbo, or Hausa — it is about competence, vision, and results. Tinubu has none.

Nigerians are not suffering because of tribe; they are suffering because Tinubu imposed reckless, anti-poor policies that destroyed livelihoods, collapsed the naira, and deepened hunger. That is not tribalism — that is failure.

And let me educate you: power in Nigeria has never been permanent with any man or region. Jonathan was removed, Buhari was rejected, and Tinubu will also face the people’s verdict if he continues to multiply suffering. No arrogant defender of failure can change that fact.

Keep chanting tribal slurs if it consoles you — it does not feed Nigerians. It only proves what everyone already knows: Tinubu’s defenders have no defense, only hate. Nigerians are hungry, angry, and awake — and when the time comes, no propaganda, no arrogance, and no tribal card will save Tinubu from the judgment of the people.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Lithiumite: 6:03pm On Sep 09, 2025
JimRohn:
Your attempt at sounding intelligent collapses under its own hypocrisy. You hide behind “tough reforms” to justify Tinubu’s recklessness, but real reforms are planned, phased, and cushioned to protect citizens — not rushed overnight like a gambler on cheap steroids. Singapore and Saudi Arabia did not butcher their people with hunger first; they invested in education, industrialization, and infrastructure before subsidy removals. That’s why their citizens prospered. Tinubu only knows how to inflict pain without solutions.

You say subsidy was fraudulent — fine. But where are the savings? Where are the safety nets? Where is the affordable transport, stable power, and food security to justify ₦860/litre fuel? Instead, Tinubu hands the so-called savings to governors who squander them, while ordinary Nigerians trek, starve, and beg. That is not reform, that is organized robbery.

And stop insulting Nigerians with this childish “every country has hungry people.” Hunger in Nigeria is not some random global problem — it is a direct consequence of Tinubu’s ill-prepared policies. Before May 2023, people could afford fuel at ₦200, rice at ₦30k, and transport fares that didn’t swallow half their salaries. Under Tinubu, all that collapsed in one year. That is not inherited — that is created.

Your “facts” about GDP, borrowing, and deficits only prove Buhari’s failures, not Tinubu’s brilliance. Tinubu did not inherit paradise, but he has turned a bad situation into hellfire. Leadership is about solutions, not excuses. Nigerians don’t eat GDP ratios or foreign reserves; they eat food, they pay rent, they send children to school. And in all these, Tinubu has failed woefully.

So call El-Rufai and others “clowns” if it makes you feel better. The real clown is a president who begged for power for decades, claimed he was ready, and then collapsed the economy within months. Tinubu is not a reformer — he is a reckless opportunist. Nigerians see it, they feel it, and in 2027 they will remind you and your ilk that power belongs to the people, not to arrogant propagandists.
There you go again with outlandish populism just to hoodwink the gullible......whay savings from subsidy are you talking about when you have humongous debt servicing obligations,you had crude already sold in advance and the accruals already spent,your state gov is collecting far more in allocations than they were collecting even that of Enugu and ANAMBRA both in opposition attested that much and you are here blaming tinubu how they spend their allocations.....tinubu should e the one to buy cng buses or come subsidise transportation all over upper iweka
or sabongari because he is president......tinubu should be the one to come build primary and secondary Schools all over the lgs so you can be happy or build hospitals in every ward when we clearly have roles spelt out for every level of govt...what manner of warped thinking is this? That's why the logical nigerians with a brain in their heads disregard the infantile attempts of el rufai and co in trying to desperately corner power for themselves,they can keep clowning and we will keep relieving ourselves.

Tinubu brought hunger,tinubu made the naira real value to be at its present rate,tinubu has made rice unaffordable because he was met to go farm all the rice we are met to eat in the country despite billions spent by buhari to boost rice production and even locking borders putting Nigerians through pain......gej anchor borrowers also readily comes to mind,tinubu is also to blame for the failure of that policy that we should have been able to attain food security by now.

Your rhetorics of hunger poverty caused by tinubu are stale and we ain't buying.....south Africa is a go to economy for many nigerians despite the high poverty rates and insecurity in the midst of plenty,I guess tinubu is responsible for that too.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 8:12pm On Sep 09, 2025
Lithiumite:
There you go again with outlandish populism just to hoodwink the gullible......whay savings from subsidy are you talking about when you have humongous debt servicing obligations,you had crude already sold in advance and the accruals already spent,your state gov is collecting far more in allocations than they were collecting even that of Enugu and ANAMBRA both in opposition attested that much and you are here blaming tinubu how they spend their allocations.....tinubu should e the one to buy cng buses or come subsidise transportation all over upper iweka
or sabongari because he is president......tinubu should be the one to come build primary and secondary Schools all over the lgs so you can be happy or build hospitals in every ward when we clearly have roles spelt out for every level of govt...what manner of warped thinking is this? That's why the logical nigerians with a brain in their heads disregard the infantile attempts of el rufai and co in trying to desperately corner power for themselves,they can keep clowning and we will keep relieving ourselves.

Tinubu brought hunger,tinubu made the naira real value to be at its present rate,tinubu has made rice unaffordable because he was met to go farm all the rice we are met to eat in the country despite billions spent by buhari to boost rice production and even locking borders putting Nigerians through pain......gej anchor borrowers also readily comes to mind,tinubu is also to blame for the failure of that policy that we should have been able to attain food security by now.

Your rhetorics of hunger poverty caused by tinubu are stale and we ain't buying.....south Africa is a go to economy for many nigerians despite the high poverty rates and insecurity in the midst of plenty,I guess tinubu is responsible for that too.
Your entire rant is nothing but gymnastics to excuse failure. Nigerians are not fooled. You twist debt, allocations, and responsibilities as if people can eat theories. The truth is simple: Tinubu asked for power, promised Renewed Hope, and in one year delivered nothing but renewed suffering. That is not Buhari’s ghost, not Jonathan’s shadow — it is Tinubu’s reckless handiwork.

Stop shifting goalposts. Before May 2023, Nigerians could still buy rice at ₦30k, fuel at ₦200, and transport at a rate that didn’t swallow salaries. Today, under Tinubu, rice is ₦70k, petrol is ₦860, transport has tripled, and the naira collapsed to over ₦1,500/$ before fake “stabilization.” That is not inheritance — that is direct consequence of a man who removed subsidy overnight without planning, floated the naira like a casino gambler, and left millions to drown.

And spare us the childish excuse that “governors should spend allocations.” Who increased the hardship in the first place? Who pushed the poor into deeper poverty with careless policies? Leadership is not about throwing citizens into fire and then saying “LG should quench it.” A real leader plans, cushions, and protects his people. Tinubu did none of that. He imposed pain, bragged about it, and now sends his supporters to defend failure with insults.

Comparing Nigeria’s hunger to South Africa’s poverty is laughable. South Africans still enjoy stable power, working hospitals, functioning schools, and social welfare — Nigerians under Tinubu enjoy none. Here, people trek because transport is unaffordable, beg because food is unreachable, and die because hospitals are inaccessible. That is Tinubu’s legacy.

So let’s call it what it is: Tinubu is not a reformer, he is an economic arsonist. He didn’t inherit paradise, but he turned a crisis into catastrophe. Nigerians don’t eat your IMF repayments, your debt ratios, or your propaganda. They eat food, pay rent, and survive daily — and Tinubu has made even survival a luxury.

Mock El-Rufai or Obi all you like; the real clown sits in Aso Rock, a man who begged for power for decades and, when finally given the chance, collapsed the economy in record time. Tinubu has failed, is failing, and come 2027, Nigerians will remind him that power belongs to the people — not to arrogant failures and their blind defenders.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Spandau: 11:28pm On Sep 09, 2025
JimRohn:
Your reply exposes not only the emptiness of your argument but also the deep-rooted prejudice Tinubu’s blind supporters hide behind when logic fails them. Reducing Nigeria’s future to tribal insults is the last refuge of those defending failure. Leadership is not about Yoruba, Igbo, or Hausa — it is about competence, vision, and results. Tinubu has none.

Nigerians are not suffering because of tribe; they are suffering because Tinubu imposed reckless, anti-poor policies that destroyed livelihoods, collapsed the naira, and deepened hunger. That is not tribalism — that is failure.

And let me educate you: power in Nigeria has never been permanent with any man or region. Jonathan was removed, Buhari was rejected, and Tinubu will also face the people’s verdict if he continues to multiply suffering. No arrogant defender of failure can change that fact.

Keep chanting tribal slurs if it consoles you — it does not feed Nigerians. It only proves what everyone already knows: Tinubu’s defenders have no defense, only hate. Nigerians are hungry, angry, and awake — and when the time comes, no propaganda, no arrogance, and no tribal card will save Tinubu from the judgment of the people.
You will pass through this phase, besides Obi or any Ibo man will never be president. Keep up with the epistle. I dey here for you.
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by Jagabanfromcali: 2:23am On Sep 10, 2025
SmartPolician:
Tinubu doesn't have what it takes to end poverty. He's more interested in taking from ordinary Nigerians with taxes, taxes and taxes. If taxation is the only value accountants bring to the leadership circus, Nigerians should stop electing them. As far as Nigeria is concerned at the moment, lawyers make the best leaders.
He is interested in tribal domination only and that’s it , Tinubu fought for power to carry out the afon supremacy plans , they plan to dominate Nigeria for ever
Re: Nigerians Poorer Now Than 1960 – El-Rufai Tells FG How To End Poverty by JimRohn: 7:01am On Sep 10, 2025
Spandau:
You will pass through this phase, besides Obi or any Ibo man will never be president. Keep up with the epistle. I dey here for you.
Given your background, I do not anticipate a particularly meaningful intellectual exchange with you.
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