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Please, what documents did you submit?

JDeemm:
Dear House please help,

My parents just got refused.

Reason stated for dad - 'The purpose of the applicant's visit to Canada is not consistent
with a temporary stay given the details provided in the application. I am not satisfied that the
applicant has provided sufficient and reliable proof of their declared employment/funds.
Consequently, I am not satisfied that the applicant has demonstrated sufficient economic ties to
their home country and that the proposed visit would be a reasonable expense. Weighing the
factors in this application, I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the
period authorized for their stay. For the reasons above, I have refused this application.'

Context - Dad is retired and worked in his own company before retirement. submitted document were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos, no previous travel or refusal history

Reason for mum - 'Previous visa application refusal(s) not declared. Application refused under A16(1) Truthful.' - I filled in the application myself and honestly missed this and just put in 'No' as it was grouped with those other questions on arrests, conviction etc.

Context - Mum is also retired and worked in dad's company before retirement. submitted documents were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos, previous travel to UK and US refusal history.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

Flixvevo:
Please, what documents did you submit?

Dad - submitted document were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos

Mum - submitted documents were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos, previous travel to UK

JDeemm:
Dear House please help,

My parents just got refused.

Reason stated for dad - 'The purpose of the applicant's visit to Canada is not consistent
with a temporary stay given the details provided in the application. I am not satisfied that the
applicant has provided sufficient and reliable proof of their declared employment/funds.
Consequently, I am not satisfied that the applicant has demonstrated sufficient economic ties to
their home country and that the proposed visit would be a reasonable expense. Weighing the
factors in this application, I am not satisfied that the applicant will depart Canada at the end of the
period authorized for their stay. For the reasons above, I have refused this application.'

Context - Dad is retired and worked in his own company before retirement. submitted document were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos, no previous travel or refusal history

Reason for mum - 'Previous visa application refusal(s) not declared. Application refused under A16(1) Truthful.' - I filled in the application myself and honestly missed this and just put in 'No' as it was grouped with those other questions on arrests, conviction etc.

Context - Mum is also retired and worked in dad's company before retirement. submitted documents were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos, previous travel to UK and US refusal history.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

Just reapply with a letter of explanation. Explain how that it was an honest mistake where you totally forgot to fill in the details for your parents. Let them know you filled it for them. They would understand. When did you apply and when did you get the decision. Kindly share timeline

I need proof of fund who's in

Teslas:
Yes, Refusal - Mother and a sister

Kindly share timeline

Hello guys, please I will appreciate it if anyone can share their timeline here. Thanks

Good afternoon, House,

Last week, some folks mentioned that visa validity is now at the discretion of the Visa Officer, and that’s absolutely correct. I picked up our passports today, my wife and I were issued 1-year visas, while the kids got visas valid until their passport expiry (about 5 years).

Funny enough, with all the previous and current visas on my passport, they still gave me just 1 year, hahaha! Even with their big bro - US 4 years visa o

Honestly, as a very young family, they suspect we might consider birth tourism at some point, and that’s probably true. For now, we’ll manage the 1-year, enough for the birth tourism.

Visa validity periods now seem to be discretionary.

princejeto:
Kindly share timeline

Application submitted August 5, biometric on August 8 and got e-mail on Sept 2nd.

Teslas:
Yes, Refusal - Mother and a sister

Story on this this.

Reason stated for Mom -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your
application.

• Upon review of the application, there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refused.

Please Note: She has a valid US visa; this is her second visa, and she has travelled to the USA before. She is almost 80. She is coming to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She is retired and not working and didn't submit any bank statement, but her daughter has over 30 dollars in her account, and she included it all in the application. Her daughter is a PR holder. Letter of invitation from her daughter and all her documentation.

Sister—She is to accompany the mother to Canada

Reason stated for sister -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your application.

• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

It is surprising that they will deny an 80 year old mother going to visit her daughter. She can look into getting a super visa. The visa allows her to stay in Canada up to 5 years.

Teslas:
Story on this this.

Reason stated for Mom -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your
application.

• Upon review of the application, there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refused.

Please Note: She has a valid US visa; this is her second visa, and she has travelled to the USA before. She is almost 80. She is coming to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She is retired and not working and didn't submit any bank statement, but her daughter has over 30 dollars in her account, and she included it all in the application. Her daughter is a PR holder. Letter of invitation from her daughter and all her documentation.

Sister—She is to accompany the mother to Canada

Reason stated for sister -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your application.

• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

Teslas:
Story on this this.

Reason stated for Mom -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your
application.

• Upon review of the application, there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refused.

Please Note: She has a valid US visa; this is her second visa, and she has travelled to the USA before. She is almost 80. She is coming to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She is retired and not working and didn't submit any bank statement, but her daughter has over 30 dollars in her account, and she included it all in the application. Her daughter is a PR holder. Letter of invitation from her daughter and all her documentation.

Sister—She is to accompany the mother to Canada

Reason stated for sister -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your application.

• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

Did they apply together? If yes, that must have been the issue. Will let you know what I think later

princejeto:
Did they apply together? If yes, that must have been the issue. Will let you know what I think later

You are correct, they applied together.

JDeemm:
Dad - submitted document were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos

Mum - submitted documents were retirement letter, bank statement (NGN4m), sponsor's bank statement (mine) - $20k, marriage cert, birth cert, children's birth cert, hotel booking (unpaid), tour booking (unpaid), photos, previous travel to UK

where are you based? The application was probably refused because no concrete arrangement for accommodation was made. Unpaid bookings? And was there any landed documents to show home ties?

Teslas:
Story on this this.

Reason stated for Mom -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your
application.

• Upon review of the application, there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refused.

Please Note: She has a valid US visa; this is her second visa, and she has travelled to the USA before. She is almost 80. She is coming to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She is retired and not working and didn't submit any bank statement, but her daughter has over 30 dollars in her account, and she included it all in the application. Her daughter is a PR holder. Letter of invitation from her daughter and all her documentation.

Sister—She is to accompany the mother to Canada

Reason stated for sister -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your application.

• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

From what I read, the officer has issues with hometies. I know it is annoying to deny a very elderly woman, but the way they see elderly people is different from our own perspective in Africa. For instance, so many people in Western countries are still working even in their 70s, but in Nigeria, the person is expected to have retired. Don't be surprised; the officer could view Mama as someone who wants to come and work because of concerns about home Ties.

This would have resulted in the comments about having more ties to Canada due to the insufficient ties back to Nigeria. I think you did everything right, but just that little area would need to be figured out. Think of something that she has in terms of property, close family that could compel her to return to Nigeria to meet this person, i.e, daughter, husband, grandchild etc) make it emotional. In her next application, let her apply alone. But don't apply too soon; give it time before applying again. Looks like Canadian immigration is getting very strict, but that's an area to think of.

Teslas:
Story on this this.

Reason stated for Mom -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your
application.

• Upon review of the application, there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refused.

Please Note: She has a valid US visa; this is her second visa, and she has travelled to the USA before. She is almost 80. She is coming to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She is retired and not working and didn't submit any bank statement, but her daughter has over 30 dollars in her account, and she included it all in the application. Her daughter is a PR holder. Letter of invitation from her daughter and all her documentation.

Sister—She is to accompany the mother to Canada

Reason stated for sister -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your application.

• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

So this is what I suspect must have been the issue. This sincerely has nothing to do with Grandma. If you send a reconsideration as early as tomorrow morning for her alone, she will most likely be granted. The issue was the daughter who applied with her. If you consider the latest trends, once you apply with someone and it looks to the VO that you are trying to leverage on someone who has the potentials of getting a Canadian visa, it becomes a red flag.

For her daughter, I suspect the reason for refusal from the UK might have been a factor. I do not know what the reason was but I suspect that is the issue. You need a letter of explanation that can address those issues. Most negative decisions from the VO are usually discretionary and may not be written in the officers notes. Send a reconsideration for Grandma as early as tomorrow and I am almost certain she will get her visa. Apply separately for her daughter sometime much later and package it well in terms of documentations. Having the documents is one things but believing it is credible is another. It has to be packaged in such a way that it obviously looks credible.

olasubomy:
From what I read, the officer has issues with hometies. I know it is annoying to deny a very elderly woman, but the way they see elderly people is different from our own perspective in Africa. For instance, so many people in Western countries are still working even in their 70s, but in Nigeria, the person is expected to have retired. Don't be surprised; the officer could view Mama as someone who wants to come and work because of concerns about home Ties.

This would have resulted in the comments about having more ties to Canada due to the insufficient ties back to Nigeria. I think you did everything right, but just that little area would need to be figured out. Think of something that she has in terms of property, close family that could compel her to return to Nigeria to meet this person, i.e, daughter, husband, grandchild etc) make it emotional. In her next application, let her apply alone. But don't apply too soon; give it time before applying again. Looks like Canadian immigration is getting very strict, but that's an area to think of.

Thanks for the wonderful comments. I will look into this more, though. I didn't present her properties, but I included all her daughters, sons, and grandchildren that are in Nigeria, the US, and the UK in the list in the form. I will include the full family list with their names, where they live, and their connection to her in the letter of introduction for the next application. I will include properties too. But I am having the feeling that due diligence was not done on her application. I will apply alone as advised too. I have noticed that some officers in IRCC don't waste time on Nigeria applications because of past experiences. If you are able to think of more things to do anytime, please reach out, and thanks once again.

princejeto:
So this is what I suspect must have been the issue. This sincerely has nothing to do with Grandma. If you send a reconsideration as early as tomorrow morning for her alone, she will most likely be granted. The issue was the daughter who applied with her. If you consider the latest trends, once you apply with someone and it looks to the VO that you are trying to leverage on someone who has the potentials of getting a Canadian visa, it becomes a red flag.

For her daughter, I suspect the reason for refusal from the UK might have been a factor. I do not know what the reason was but I suspect that is the issue. You need a letter of explanation that can address those issues. Most negative decisions from the VO are usually discretionary and may not be written in the officers notes. Send a reconsideration for Grandma as early as tomorrow and I am almost certain she will get her visa. Apply separately for her daughter sometime much later and package it well in terms of documentations. Having the documents is one things but believing it is credible is another. It has to be packaged in such a way that it obviously looks credible.

Thanks a lot for the message, and it is really appreciated. Someone advised me to send reconsideration letters for both. which I did yesterday. If I had gotten this message earlier, I would have sent for Grandma alone. I got a reply for both this morning that the 2 applications have been sent to an officer to review, and the officer will determine whether to reopen them or not and reconsider them. Question, please. Is it possible to add a fresh document that was not included in the application to the reconsideration? If yes, I can focus on Grandma to include the properties in her and a full list of the daughters, sons, grandchildren, locations, and their connection to her.

Yes, you can add fresh documents backing your claims.

Teslas:
Thanks a lot for the message, and it is really appreciated. Someone advised me to send reconsideration letters for both. which I did yesterday. If I had gotten this message earlier, I would have sent for Grandma alone. I got a reply for both this morning that the 2 applications have been sent to an officer to review, and the officer will determine whether to reopen them or not and reconsider them. Question, please. Is it possible to add a fresh document that was not included in the application to the reconsideration? If yes, I can focus on Grandma to include the properties in her and a full list of the daughters, sons, grandchildren, locations, and their connection to her.

gonegreen:
Yes, you can add fresh documents backing your claims.

No you cannot add fresh documents for reconsideration except you reapply. Also, reconsideration is on a personal basis so even if they will approve, they will do so for just one person for now.

princejeto:
No you cannot add fresh documents for reconsideration except you reapply. Also, reconsideration is on a personal basis so even if they will approve, they will do so for just one person for now.

Thanks, I thought as much, and I submitted the reconsideration separately.

Teslas:
• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

Your Statement of Purpose is the reason. All those documents will only be observed on file if it does not tally with a strong home tie established via your SOP. Basically, home tie telling them that you have every reason to return to your base after the proposed duration of stay, this is where your SOP will work the magic by defining the purpose of stay and establishing other reasons to leave the country which can be based on career, study, personal business, traditional/cultural, medical, professional e.t.c.

JapaProf:
Your Statement of Purpose is the reason. All those documents will only be observed on file if it does not tally with a strong home tie established via your SOP. Basically, home tie telling them that you have every reason to return to your base after the proposed duration of stay, this is where your SOP will work the magic by defining the purpose of stay and establishing other reasons to leave the country which can be based on career, study, personal business, traditional/cultural, medical, professional e.t.c.

Thanks for your clarification. BUT, I explained all the points quoted in your message in the SOP "career, study, personal business, traditional/cultural, medical, and professional." And it does tally because I used all the same documents to write the SOP. The study is in line with her profession. Study estate management and work in a real estate company and get all certifications in real estate and property management. All her business professional trainings and personal business are in that line too. Everything is in line and tally. Look at the reason as quoted " The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited" This statement is huge considering all the documents that I have provided in my details message on this platform. Which other documents did they want me to provide for her current employment activities and to prove ownership of the business?

Look at the ODN as quoted "• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse"

What more economically established and socio-economic ties did they want? - Please guide me
What more documents will compel someone to come back to his/her home country - Please guide me
What more sufficient will i add when i have already provided over 1.5m and monthly salary and over 35m? - Please guide me
What more property will i add when i have already provided 3 and one ongoing warehouse construction for her business? - Please Guide me

You and i know that if there is any discrepancies, they will flag it foryou.

Please look at my message and guide me on what more to provide as additional documents for the next submission.

Please, i want to know if i missed out anything or something i need to add. Meanwhile she is coming back oooooo

Teslas:
Story on this this.

Reason stated for Mom -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your
application.

• Upon review of the application, there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refused.

Please Note: She has a valid US visa; this is her second visa, and she has travelled to the USA before. She is almost 80. She is coming to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She is retired and not working and didn't submit any bank statement, but her daughter has over 30 dollars in her account, and she included it all in the application. Her daughter is a PR holder. Letter of invitation from her daughter and all her documentation.

Sister—She is to accompany the mother to Canada

Reason stated for sister -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your application.

• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

Tender a reconsideration letter immediately, and a more senior officer will review it. In your mother’s case, with a valid U.S. visa at 80 years old, the refusal appears to be an error in judgment. Your sister’s refusal, however, seems more understandable.

House34:
Tender a reconsideration letter immediately, and a more senior officer will review it. In your mother’s case, with a valid U.S. visa at 80 years old, the refusal appears to be an error in judgment. Your sister’s refusal, however, seems more understandable.

Hello bro, I actually live in Calgary Alberta and I seemed interested in your concerns. I had to talk to a lawyer friend here showing him your refusal notes. He simply said that the VO was trying to tell your mum that she can't travel with another daughter of her's when one relation is already there. For now, she may need to apply alone or since you have already put in for reconsideration, I strongly believe it will be overturned and she will get her visa. As for sis, let mumsy come back and then she should reapply.

princejeto:
Hello bro, I actually live in Calgary Alberta and I seemed interested in your concerns. I had to talk to a lawyer friend here showing him your refusal notes. He simply said that the VO was trying to tell your mum that she can't travel with another daughter of her's when one relation is already there. For now, she may need to apply alone or since you have already put in for reconsideration, I strongly believe it will be overturned and she will get her visa. As for sis, let mumsy come back and then she should reapply.

Good thought, and thanks for going to this length on my concerns. I stay in Toronto but spend most of my time in Nigeria for my business, and I have contacted a lawyer friend too. I will do as advised, and my lawyer friend also mentioned I should reduce the days. I applied for them to spend 1 month, and he was advising for 2 weeks. Any thoughts on this? But for me, I think Canada is a very long journey for 2 weeks, and it takes time for you to get over the jet lag and start enjoying Canada; you would have spent a week struggling with jet lag.

Thanks and appreciated.

Hello people,

Quick question please. I am thinking of applying for Canada visit visa for tourism. A friend just informed me that I will be denied because Canada does not approve applications on the basis of just tourism. Please guys how true is this? Please note I have travelled to the UK, Schengen and a few other countries. Must it be that I am attending a conference before my application is accepted?

Nanyavikz:
Hello people,

Quick question please. I am thinking of applying for Canada visit visa for tourism. A friend just informed me that I will be denied because Canada does not approve applications on the basis of just tourism. Please guys how true is this? Please note I have travelled to the UK, Schengen and a few other countries. Must it be that I am attending a conference before my application is accepted?

Your friend just lied to you but it’s not their fault because you have all the available information via a google search but you still somehow think your friend is the correct one to disseminate the information to you.

As some people have said that visa validity is now at discretion of the visa officer, can one quickly go and renew passport for like 10 years after PPR to see if one can get 10 year visa?

Or the validity period has already been decided before PPR.

I'm awaiting the outcome of my visitor visa application but the passport I submitted will expire in May 2027. That's why I'm asking this question.

Even community leader write a letter for just to visit Canada?? ahhhh Canada na heaven?? Maybe that was why it was refused , too many document

Teslas:
Story on this this.

Reason stated for Mom -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your
application.

• Upon review of the application, there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. Therefore, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refused.

Please Note: She has a valid US visa; this is her second visa, and she has travelled to the USA before. She is almost 80. She is coming to visit her daughter and grandchildren. She is retired and not working and didn't submit any bank statement, but her daughter has over 30 dollars in her account, and she included it all in the application. Her daughter is a PR holder. Letter of invitation from her daughter and all her documentation.

Sister—She is to accompany the mother to Canada

Reason stated for sister -

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/ section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will leave Canada, based on the following factors:

• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the details you have provided in your application.

• Your assets and financial situation are insufficient to support the stated purpose of travel for yourself (and any accompanying family member(s), if applicable).

• You have significant family ties in Canada.

Officer Decision Notes (ODN) -

These notes were entered by the officer who assessed and made the final decision on your application.

• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse

Please Note That:
She submitted all the documents to support her application: All Educational certificates, ND, HND, BSC, and other professional certificates, All her employment certificates, offer letter, leave letters, promotion letters, introduction letter, , company ID Cards, Company Business Cards, letter of invitation from her sister and all her documentation. Letter of Explanation. Office- and work-related pictures.

She submitted her registered business too, tax of the business, and the CAC document too. Business ID Cards, Business cards for customer, invoices and all documents with pictures.

She submitted 3 properties and her ongoing warehouse constructions to expand her business and all payment-related information from the properties and highlighted them with a marker in her statement of account.

She submitted a bank statement of over 35 million with proven and clean records with payslips, money from properties, and income from her business. Her salary is 1.5m, and it comes with bonuses at times payable into her account.

She submitted her marriage certificates, birth certificate affidavits, letter of support and consent from the husband, Family Pictures with her immediate family and family pictures with her sister and her mom.

She submitted police report, document report, community letter from the leader, birth certificates showing both her own and her sister, she submitted conversation between her and her sister.

She has travel to Benin x 2, Ghana x 2, Togo and Gabon. She has refusal from UK and she declared it and explained the reason. she didnt apply to UK again as the reason she wanted to travel has past and there is not need for re-aplying when they didnt give her.

I would appreciate any guidance on how to navigate this. They are not planning to relocate and just want to visit. Thanks

Canada is not heaven.. your documents are way too much maybe that confused the VO.. try other countries

Teslas:
Thanks for your clarification. BUT, I explained all the points quoted in your message in the SOP "career, study, personal business, traditional/cultural, medical, and professional." And it does tally because I used all the same documents to write the SOP. The study is in line with her profession. Study estate management and work in a real estate company and get all certifications in real estate and property management. All her business professional trainings and personal business are in that line too. Everything is in line and tally. Look at the reason as quoted " The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited" This statement is huge considering all the documents that I have provided in my details message on this platform. Which other documents did they want me to provide for her current employment activities and to prove ownership of the business?

Look at the ODN as quoted "• The documentation provided by the applicant on their current employment activities or to prove ownership of the declared business is limited.
They have not shown that they are economically established and have sufficient socio-economic ties. Additionally, there is insufficient evidence to one, support the purpose of their travel to Canada; and two, demonstrate socio-economic ties that will compel the applicant to return to their home country or country of residence. I also note that the applicant has significant family ties in Canada. On balance, I am not satisfied that the purpose of their intended stay is justified or that their visit to Canada is temporary. Application refuse"

What more economically established and socio-economic ties did they want? - Please guide me
What more documents will compel someone to come back to his/her home country - Please guide me
What more sufficient will i add when i have already provided over 1.5m and monthly salary and over 35m? - Please guide me
What more property will i add when i have already provided 3 and one ongoing warehouse construction for her business? - Please Guide me

You and i know that if there is any discrepancies, they will flag it foryou.

Please look at my message and guide me on what more to provide as additional documents for the next submission.

Please, i want to know if i missed out anything or something i need to add. Meanwhile she is coming back oooooo

Kolajero:
As some people have said that visa validity is now at discretion of the visa officer, can one quickly go and renew passport for like 10 years after PPR to see if one can get 10 year visa?

Or the validity period has already been decided before PPR.

I'm awaiting the outcome of my visitor visa application but the passport I submitted will expire in May 2027. That's why I'm asking this question.

This is correct it’s now discretionary