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U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) - Foreign Affairs (6) - Nairaland

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Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by zedman1(m): 9:06am On Sep 11, 2025
RemoveKebab:
yes they are designed to kill but but what are you killing ?

Something that is a threat to your life or preventing the threat from happening once they know you have a gun.

Knives, Hammer, machetes, too are used to kill but should we ban them?
Their use are even more inhumane compared to gun.
See, I wrote STRICTLY there. Are cars, hammers, knives or even machetes designed STRICTLY to kill? Legalise the use of guns in Nigeria and realise how flawed your analogy is. You even used cars to do your "motivational speech"? Lol, Cars? Haba bros!
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by RemoveKebab: 9:42am On Sep 11, 2025
zedman1:
See, I wrote STRICTLY there. Are cars, hammers, knives or even machetes designed STRICTLY to kill? Legalise the use of guns in Nigeria and realise how flawed your analogy is. You even used cars to do your "motivational speech"? Lol, Cars? Haba bros!
the reason I use cars is because they caused more deaths than gun annually
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Nobody: 10:55am On Sep 11, 2025
Winnin009:
Lol. Before you talk nonsense ehn, go and check the lists of the world strongest people to see how many blacks are there and come back tell me.

Then check the fighters too and tell me you genuinely feel we're stronger.

Black people need to develop themselves massively. We can't outclassed these whites in anything at the moment.
World strongest people that use steroids to build muscles and work all their life’s in the gym.

It’s shouldn’t be a debate that Africans are the strongest. We got a big heart to stand our ground.

You think an average white man likes problems with blacks? They know we built with toughness-The special ones.
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Mariangeles(f): 11:20am On Sep 11, 2025
Gbadugbakun:
What's going on in the USA, seems that country is fast becoming more dangerous than Nigeria.
The US has always been, and will always be more dangerous than Nigeria.
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by damkin24(m): 12:01pm On Sep 11, 2025
Skeyskey:
Still better than Nigeria under Tinubu where Fulani terrorists can murder hundreds at a go without consequences.
Get well soon enough 🙏
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by zedman1(m): 12:21pm On Sep 11, 2025
RemoveKebab:
the reason I use cars is because they caused more deaths than gun annually
Bros, let's just stop here, Okay? There are certain things that are not suitable for comparison. Gun? Haba.
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by FavouriteOfGod(f): 1:03pm On Sep 11, 2025
dominique:
It has not been confirmed yet that he's dead. Sadly America happened to him sad. The gun control bill American senators and congressmen are unwilling to pass will always come back to haunt them.
This is becoming too much in the USA... The fact that it also happened to Trump just about 2 years ago during his campaign for reelection. Just like we're watching Holywood movies 🤔
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by frankson1(m): 1:07pm On Sep 11, 2025
Skeyskey:
Still better than Nigeria under Tinubu where Fulani terrorists can murder hundreds at a go without consequences.
America happened to the poor man cry cry cry
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by IjeBos(m): 1:13pm On Sep 11, 2025
JaceBlaze:
[b]They [/b]tried twice to take out Trump and they failed both times so they decided to take out one of his most famous loyalist right-wing soldier.
Who is "they".
Do you mean the two Republicans who tried to kill Trump.
One was a registered Republican the other voted for Trump.
Are you saying Republicans also "decided to take out one of his most famous loyalist right-wing soldier[s]"?
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by JaceBlaze: 2:21pm On Sep 11, 2025
IjeBos:
Who is "they".
Do you mean the two Republicans who tried to kill Trump.
One was a registered Republican the other voted for Trump.
Are you saying Republicans also "decided to take out one of his most famous loyalist right-wing soldier[s]"?
I guess "they" can be anybody that does not like Trump or Kirk.It's not rocket science.
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Cromagnon: 8:59pm On Sep 11, 2025
Kaliningrad:
🇺🇸 United States Of The Mentally ill And Criminally Insane.

The most dangerous country to live in.
[b] really
Nope dangerous than Somalia or Mexico or Sudan?
Really
More shootings and gun deaths than active war zones.
yet more visa applications and asylum seekers than anywhere on the planet
US police & secret service couldn't secure Trump from nearly being whacked on live TV. And you think they can secure you? [/b]
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Arapmoi22: 11:35pm On Sep 11, 2025
January 1st to September 10th 2025 = 253 days

Number of Gun violence deaths within the period = 10,355.

Gun violence death everyday = 41.

If America is not facing terrorism, then no one else do.
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Winnin009: 2:33am On Sep 12, 2025
CoronaVirusPro:
World strongest people that use steroids to build muscles and work all their life’s in the gym.

It’s shouldn’t be a debate that Africans are the strongest. We got a big heart to stand our ground.

You think an average white man likes problems with blacks? They know we built with toughness-The special ones.
But when it was Mark Henry, we celebrated him like crazy yeah?! Maybe he didn't need to use steroids cause he was black.

He say na they know.

Alright, the fighters nko? They use steroids too?
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Winnin009: 2:35am On Sep 12, 2025
RemoveKebab:
Think deep before you quote
Dem still never collect your phone? 😤😤😤
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Magnificenttop: 11:19pm On Sep 12, 2025
RemoveKebab:
it's not the gun that kills it is who is behind the trigger
You can't ban cars because it kills it is who is behind the wheels that should be held responsible
For the record even knives, hammer, machete are more inhumane than gun
the reason I use cars is because they more road deaths than gun annually
You half smart people are big problem in the world because you pose like geniuses, give deceitful opinions that sound bright but eventually turns to be lame.

First, shooters always going for guns instead of cars for operations like this tells you something - it is more effective, easier and usually successful. Cars and guns not the same.
Secondly, cars, knifes are not options, they're necessary tools used everyday, we can't do without them. You always need knife for different tasks. Same doesn't apply to gun. You don't need gun to slice your food or transport to work.
Third, if everything poses threat, the more reason we should cut them to barest possible. Cars, knifes already kill people, so what's the sense in adding guns to the threat?
Forth, asides sane arguments, in practice/reality, gun right is a failed experiment in the US. It simply doesn't work. It only takes lives. What's the point doing something that continues to fail?
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by RemoveKebab: 7:43am On Sep 13, 2025
Magnificenttop:
You half smart people are big problem in the world because you pose like geniuses, give deceitful opinions that sound bright but eventually turns to be lame.

First, shooters always going for guns instead of cars for operations like this tells you something - it is more effective, easier and usually successful. Cars and guns not the same.
Secondly, cars, knifes are not options, they're necessary tools used everyday, we can't do without them. You always need knife for different tasks. Same doesn't apply to gun. You don't need gun to slice your food or transport to work.
Third, if everything poses threat, the more reason we should cut them to barest possible. Cars, knifes already kill people, so what's the sense in adding guns to the threat?
Forth, asides sane arguments, in practice/reality, gun right is a failed experiment in the US. It simply doesn't work. It only takes lives. What's the point doing something that continues to fail?
Joseph Stalin once said

"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?"

We all know what that guy did with unchecked power.

Guns ain't just a tool they are ideals protecting freedom

Do you think if US have strict anti gun society their wouldn't have fallen into dictatorship currently happening in UK and some parts of Europe where peoples voices are being shut, imprisoned for meme posting and degeneracy policies are being forced to their throat because they have no say.

A society with gun will always put government in check 24/7 because it's a power tool protecting freedom

Is Nigeria safer than US?
An assassin was caught less than 72 hours in US

A village will be wiped out under 72 hours because villagers can't defend themselves and some set of people in same country have guns while the government are shielding them
Who is fooling who?

Do you think kidnappers, armed robbers and terrorist won't abandon the job if those who they are targeting are able to defend against themselves?

Do you think the government won't sit up and be competent because of fear of reprisals from angry citizens if they misuse power and governace

Think friend, think.
Re: U.S Politician, Charlie Kirk Shot Dead At Utah University Event (Graphic Photos) by Magnificenttop: 11:01am On Sep 13, 2025
RemoveKebab:
Joseph Stalin once said

"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?"

We all know what that guy did with unchecked power.

Guns ain't just a tool they are ideals protecting freedom

Do you think if US have strict anti gun society their wouldn't have fallen into dictatorship currently happening in UK and some parts of Europe where peoples voices are being shut, imprisoned for meme posting and degeneracy policies are being forced to their throat because they have no say.

A society with gun will always put government in check 24/7 because it's a power tool protecting freedom

Is Nigeria safer than US?
An assassin was caught less than 72 hours in US

A village will be wiped out under 72 hours because villagers can't defend themselves and some set of people in same country have guns while the government are shielding them
Who is fooling who?

Do you think kidnappers, armed robbers and terrorist won't abandon the job if those who they are targeting are able to defend against themselves?

Do you think the government won't sit up and be competent because of fear of reprisals from angry citizens if they misuse power and governace

Think friend, think.
All very far from the truth and reality.

Dictatorship in the UK? NO.
Whatever happens in UK, applies elsewhere, it's all about government policy on migrants, lgbtq etc. It equally happens in the US.
Society with gun always put government in check? NO, big fallacy. Such never happens.
Gun right for defense? NO. With all the so called gun freedom in the US, criminals operate all the time and people are still helpless, can't defend themselves or others, they still rely on the government and cops.
Nigeria case? It is not about gun rights, rather terrorism and a government that fails to live up to its responsibility.
Safety in a society relies on gun right? NO, rather it always relies primarily on law abiding citizens, rule of law, law enforcement and a responsible government.

All your fallacies never work, gun right rarely offers any positive values of safety, defense or freedom in a society but rather it usually leads a society to gun abuse, crime and anarchy.
Ironically this whole thread itself is stating the obvious truth - a gun right society facing the usual consequence and as fate had it, the victim is a supporter of gun right.
Reality itself always points to the truth, only half smart people are caught in complex confusion and unable to come to terms with the simple truth.
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