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You are the type of person who feel when people don’t reason and respond to situations as you do then they are under an influence. What you don’t know is Nigerians are not so easy to bend with mind of their own which is why they stick strongly to religion, and ethnicity.

post=136782139:
I don't know what kirk said but let me throw in my own observation and life experience. Sub human and inferior may not be the correct term to use. When it comes to IQ that is creativity and brain power, the whites are way above compared to blacks. We have blacks with high IQ but they are always minute in a high population of very low IQ. Then when it comes to strength, strong immunity and body esthetics, blacks are on top way above the whites. God never created species/animals to be equal, take a look at dogs, birds, plants and animal. Different breeds have different strength and power. The USA understood this fact first and it enabled them to become no 1 in the world. They use blacks for sports and entertainment industry, use Asians for management and innovation. They the whites are very good in management and growth maintenance.
So in summary we are not subhumans or inferior but there are things very hard for blacks especially growth maintenance, innovation and management.
The blacks with high IQ won't be able to function properly in a dysfunctional society that is why most highly achieved blacks did so in Western countries.
We have to accept this and not feel bad about it. It is natural and nobody can have it all. Blacks use to be on top when the world was operating on sheer human strength and power but unfortunately now it is operating on brain power. In order for us to grow our government system must be changed which is all about who has the highest money to share. This unfortunately won't happen soon. So African countries will keep on being the last

I don't think it's mostly IQ, I think it's mostly EQ.. We let our emotion control us too much and this affect our planning to a short term view.. A typical black man will throw reason away even in the face of obvious evidence just so his emotion wins.. An average black don't plan for long, we mostly plan for short term Like a year or two, so I won't say it's only IQ but EQ mostly.. You will see us voting for worst candidates for silly reasons and defend silly things for sentiments, it was also why we were converted to Christianity and islam en masse and took away our own myth for evil

hegelian:
I don't think it's mostly IQ, I think it's mostly EQ.. We let our emotion control us too much and this affect our planning to a short term view.. A typical black man will throw reason away even in the face of obvious evidence just so his emotion wins.. An average black don't plan for long, we mostly plan for short term Like a year or two, so I won't say it's only IQ but EQ mostly.. You will see us voting for worst candidates for silly reasons and defend silly things for sentiments, it was also why we were converted to Christianity and islam en masse and took away our own myth for evil

This isn’t a race issue, it’s a human issue. Every human being is biased, emotional, and capable of throwing away reason when sentiment takes over, you’ll find this behavior across all races and cultures.

The difference between short-term and long-term planning is not about “Black EQ” vs “White EQ.” It’s mainly a class and scarcity issue. When people live in scarcity, they naturally focus on short-term survival, food, rent, school fees, safety rather than 20-year strategies. This is seen everywhere, not just in Africa. Poor communities in the U.S., Asia, and Latin America show the same short-term thinking patterns.

Wealthy people, regardless of race, have the luxury of long-term planning because their immediate needs are secured. That’s why you see elites building dynasties and institutions while the average man, anywhere in the world, is focused on next week’s bills.

So, the problem is not that “Blacks are emotional.” The real issue is scarcity and weak systems, once those improve, long-term planning naturally follows.

motymop:
This isn’t a race issue, it’s a human issue. Every human being is biased, emotional, and capable of throwing away reason when sentiment takes over, you’ll find this behavior across all races and cultures.

The difference between short-term and long-term planning is not about “Black EQ” vs “White EQ.” It’s mainly a class and scarcity issue. When people live in scarcity, they naturally focus on short-term survival, food, rent, school fees, safety rather than 20-year strategies. This is seen everywhere, not just in Africa. Poor communities in the U.S., Asia, and Latin America show the same short-term thinking patterns.

Wealthy people, regardless of race, have the luxury of long-term planning because their immediate needs are secured. That’s why you see elites building dynasties and institutions while the average man, anywhere in the world, is focused on next week’s bills.

So, the problem is not that “Blacks are emotional.” The real issue is scarcity and weak systems, once those improve, long-term planning naturally follows.

Thanks so much for enlightening these people. The age long propaganda has effected them badly, and they now believe they're inferior. It's very unfortunate that even some educated and well travelled also believe those nonsense.

The person that said blacks can't organise themselves. Ask them if they have read about Benin or Oyo empires and several others across subsahara Africa. They know nothing about their own history except those brainwashed articles that ridicule African resilient.

post=136782139:
I don't know what kirk said but let me throw in my own observation and life experience. Sub human and inferior may not be the correct term to use. When it comes to IQ that is creativity and brain power, the whites are way above compared to blacks. We have blacks with high IQ but they are always minute in a high population of very low IQ. Then when it comes to strength, strong immunity and body esthetics, blacks are on top way above the whites. God never created species/animals to be equal, take a look at dogs, birds, plants and animal. Different breeds have different strength and power. The USA understood this fact first and it enabled them to become no 1 in the world. They use blacks for sports and entertainment industry, use Asians for management and innovation. They the whites are very good in management and growth maintenance.
So in summary we are not subhumans or inferior but there are things very hard for blacks especially growth maintenance, innovation and management.
The blacks with high IQ won't be able to function properly in a dysfunctional society that is why most highly achieved blacks did so in Western countries.
We have to accept this and not feel bad about it. It is natural and nobody can have it all. Blacks use to be on top when the world was operating on sheer human strength and power but unfortunately now it is operating on brain power. In order for us to grow our government system must be changed which is all about who has the highest money to share. This unfortunately won't happen soon. So African countries will keep on being the last

Do you relaize how many powerful African leaders the west killed so that africa won't get ahead ? Omo you guys are really under colonial bandage.

benardtotti:
Do you relaize how many powerful African leaders the west killed so that africa won't get ahead ? Omo you guys are really under colonial bandage.

Don't quote me if you can't comprehend my speculation. My point is majorly based on natural human/racial abilities.

Don't bring in colonialism here, our middle class citizens immigrating to the west en mass is still a form of self-voluntary colonization.

North Korea with all sanctions and isolation were still able to become a strong country no African country can match.

If you sample 100 West Africans and 100 Indians and train them in strength sport which group do you think will come out on top?

It’s definitely the West African team.

The Gulf countries in Asia understood their strength (oil money) and weakness (science and tech), they were able to hire the best structural Engineers from all parts of the world to build a futuristic and modern city.

Accepting reality is not being in bondage or racist. It is the first stage of growth, because you will work with what you have and hire the best for what you dont have.

Take a look at families, some kids perform better than their siblings in certain areas. In school class some students more brilliant than the others. This is not something to be emotional or angry about. It is Mother Nature.

The problem is indiscipline of Nigerian blacks.

Discipline and a good heart can change civilisations for the better.

Most black males have evil hearts and are grossly indisciplined

post=136790654:
Don't quote me if you can't comprehend my speculation. My point is majorly based on natural human/racial abilities.

Don't bring in colonialism here, our middle class citizens immigrating to the west en mass is still a form of self-voluntary colonization.

North Korea with all sanctions and isolation were still able to become a strong country no African country can match.

If you sample 100 West Africans and 100 Indians and train them in strength sport which group do you think will come out on top?

It’s definitely the West African team.

The Gulf countries in Asia understood their strength (oil money) and weakness (science and tech), they were able to hire the best structural Engineers from all parts of the world to build a futuristic and modern city.

Accepting reality is not being in bondage or racist. It is the first stage of growth, because you will work with what you have and hire the best for what you dont have.

Take a look at families, some kids perform better than their siblings in certain areas. In school class some students more brilliant than the others. This is not something to be emotional or angry about. It is Mother Nature.

Success of a nation is far more linked to institutions, governance, education and resources not biology. for example: Japan and South Korea were very poor 70 years ago. Today they are among the richest not because of racial superiority but because of policy, education and investment.

North Korea’s strength is almost entirely military deterrence because of hostile neigbours, Economically they are weaker than many African states. they have a gdp of $25b and wide spread poverty.

some populations may have genetic advantages in specific sports, West Africans in sprinting, East Africans in long distance, Europeans in swimming, etc. But those differences are narrow. Nations don’t rise because of sprinting ability. India’s global strength comes from tech and science; West Africa shines in sports. It’s not about inherent superiority, but about what societies choose to invest in.

on the GULF countries success, it is also about governance and and economic strategy not race,

individuals differ in ability, but when you look at groups or nations, the determining factor is education, institutions and opportunity. for example, Singapore was once poor with no natural resources but with good governance and planning, it became one of the richest nations in the world.

History and data show nations rise or fall based on institutions, leadership and strategic use of resources. North Korea is not strong, it’s isolated and poor. The Gulf’s success is governance and oil money not biology. African nations’ challenge is corruption and governance not nature.

okpouman:
The problem is indiscipline of Nigerian blacks.

Discipline and a good heart can change civilisations for the better.

Most black males have evil hearts and are grossly indisciplined

saying most black males have evil hearts is statistically baseless and logically flawed. Human behavior varies individually, not by race. There are disciplined and kind people of every background. Societies succeed or fail largely due to institutions, governancemand culture, not inherent traits of people. for example, Singapore, Japan, South Korea and Rwanda all demonstrate disciplined societies because of policy and social structures not racial genetics

No nation or racial group is free from corruption, misbehavior or societal issues. Instead of accepting racial blame, focus on solutions, education, governance, accountability and community values.

motymop:
Success of a nation is far more linked to institutions, governance, education and resources not biology. for example: Japan and South Korea were very poor 70 years ago. Today they are among the richest not because of racial superiority but because of policy, education and investment.

North Korea’s strength is almost entirely military deterrence because of hostile neigbours, Economically they are weaker than many African states. they have a gdp of $25b and wide spread poverty.

some populations may have genetic advantages in specific sports, West Africans in sprinting, East Africans in long distance, Europeans in swimming, etc. But those differences are narrow. Nations don’t rise because of sprinting ability. India’s global strength comes from tech and science; West Africa shines in sports. It’s not about inherent superiority, but about what societies choose to invest in.

on the GULF countries success, it is also about governance and and economic strategy not race,

individuals differ in ability, but when you look at groups or nations, the determining factor is education, institutions and opportunity. for example, Singapore was once poor with no natural resources but with good governance and planning, it became one of the richest nations in the world.

History and data show nations rise or fall based on institutions, leadership and strategic use of resources. North Korea is not strong, it’s isolated and poor. The Gulf’s success is governance and oil money not biology. African nations’ challenge is corruption and governance not nature.

My problem with you is that you argue like a woman, this one this that.. just zig zag. You contradict yourself without knowing.

I never said any race is superior than the other, go back and read my first post. There is no perfect race anywhere but there are things easier for some race than the others. It doesn't mean being superior.

Even Lee Kuan Yew believed this, below is his quote:

The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more … the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow.

-Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997

Read this article on more of Lee Kuan Yew views on racial abilities https://elewa.substack.com/p/never-ask-a-nigerian-what-lee-kuan

@OP if possible post what Kirk said because I don't even know what he said that is causing this debate.

Smartcitizen:
Not Igbo people please and that's why other ethnic groups always claim they want to dominate them in Nigeria.

Igbos have this superiority complex that they just feel like everyone is just under them and it use to create problems for them.

There is nobody claiming Igbos want to dominate them
Igbos are the ones crying of marginalisation
If you were dominating would you be crying they won't give us seaport they won't give us Biafra they won't give us president they won't give us federal presence
Anything that happens next thing iyou
. f it was an Igbo they won't let him get away with it

If you were dominating you will be for one Nigeria
You believe you are dominated that is why you are crying for Biafra

Conceit or so called Superiority complex is always a manifestation of feelings of inadequacy


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Superiority complex is a way of managing inferiority complex it is a defence mechanism normal humans being speak for themselves as an individual don't hide under Igbo or white or black

post=136793594:
My problem with you is that you argue like a woman, this one this that.. just zig zag. You contradict yourself without knowing.

I never said any race is superior than the other, go back and read my first post. There is no perfect race anywhere but there are things easier for some race than the others. It doesn't mean being superior.

Even Lee Kuan Yew believed this, below is his quote:

The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more … the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow.

-Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997

Read this article on more of Lee Kuan Yew views on racial abilities https://elewa.substack.com/p/never-ask-a-nigerian-what-lee-kuan

using IQ averages as a baseline for what’s easier for one group than another is still misleading. IQ is influenced by environment, education, nutrition and opportunity, so population averages don’t tell the full story.

Even Lee Kuan Yew’s quote was made in the context of policy planning for Singapore, not as a statement on racial potential. Countries rise or fall based on institutions, governance, and investment in human capital, not inherent IQ. So while some tasks may statistically favor certain traits, it doesn’t determine overall ability, achievement, or the potential of any group.”

motymop:
using IQ averages as a baseline for what’s easier for one group than another is still misleading. IQ is influenced by environment, education, nutrition and opportunity, so population averages don’t tell the full story.

Even Lee Kuan Yew’s quote was made in the context of policy planning for Singapore, not as a statement on racial potential. Countries rise or fall based on institutions, governance, and investment in human capital, not inherent IQ. So while some tasks may statistically favor certain traits, it doesn’t determine overall ability, achievement, or the potential of any group.”

Here is how this position was put in the book Lee Kuan Yew: The Man and His Ideas:

“There are deep and abiding differences between groups. And whatever we do, we must remember that in Singapore, the Malays feel they are being asked to compete unfairly, that they are not ready for the competition against the Chinese and the Indians and the Eurasians. They will not admit or they cannot admit to themselves that, in fact, as a result of history, they are a different gene pool and they do not have these qualities that can enable them to enter the same race.”

Elsewhere, he says this:

“I started off believing all men were equal. I now know that's the most unlikely thing ever to have been, because millions of years have passed over evolution, people have scattered across the face of this earth, been isolated from each other, developed independently, had different intermixtures between races, peoples, climates, soils... I didn't start off with that knowledge. But by observation, reading, watching, arguing, asking, and then bullying my way to the top, that is the conclusion I've come to.”

These quotes make Lee Kuan Yew as straightforward a racist as you are ever likely to meet. And he wasn’t a racist in the sense that it didn’t affect his work. He was a racist in the sense that it was what most of his work was about. By the end of his life, he was certain that the most important reason Singapore was successful was because it was majority Chinese.

A few days ago, the chairman, Nigerians in Diaspora posted laughing emojis in response to a post by a Nigerian supporting her by calling other Nigerians derogatory names, including insults related to animal ancestry...

So, if the chairman of such sensitive Office can tacitly support derogatory comments against her fellow citizens, it gives a certain level of credibility to the notion of inferiority of 'blacks'...