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ask4bk:
12v 4kwh - 400 k
12v 2kwh - 350 k
24v 8kwh - 800 k
24v 7kwh - 700 k
48v 14kwh - 1.9 m
48v 16kwh - 2.1 m

These are not real prices. But if you can see this without me getting banned, it means you can post prices but put the k a space after the numbers.
Bots obey commands and if you use what isn't included in their command they can't see you.

True fact is that you are losing customers by making them make extra efforts to get prices.

Except there's a nairaland admin among us here.

If these would be his latest prices, even when you have indicated they are not real prices, I must say they are competitive, but again, he has to own these prices then nothing to shy off from regardless...

FEGEITOK:
My neighbor is asking that |I supply them power from my alternative to AEDC.

Please recommend a cheap but functional meter that I can use to ensure that I can monitor their consumption if anyone has been through this situation before.

Do we have it in the country or will I have to import?

plenty of siemens meters

dont know if they are original - but we have been using them wella

https:///lagos-island-west/measuring-and-layout-tools?query=check+meter+siemens

ask4bk:
12v 4kwh - 400 k
12v 2kwh - 350 k
24v 8kwh - 800 k
24v 7kwh - 700 k
48v 14kwh - 1.9 m
48v 16kwh - 2.1 m

These are not real prices. But if you can see this without me getting banned, it means you can post prices but put the k a space after the numbers.
Bots obey commands and if you use what isn't included in their command they can't see you.

True fact is that you are losing customers by making them make extra efforts to get prices.

Except there's a nairaland admin among us here.

This thing you did now, na only you if i post same it will be deleted.

Dam5reey1:
This thing you did now, na only you if i post same it will be deleted.

he don't seem to get it. some username are already flagged. there are things i can't post with this my moniker, but can post with an alternate one. seun is a follower of this thread

Valto:
he don't seem to get it. some username are already flagged. there are things i can't post with this my moniker, but can post with an alternate one. seun is a follower of this thread

That Seun guy no dey hear word. It’s either nobody is willing to advise him (which is bad) or he doesn’t have trusted people around him.

FEGEITOK:
My neighbor is asking that |I supply them power from my alternative to AEDC.

Please recommend a cheap but functional meter that I can use to ensure that I can monitor their consumption if anyone has been through this situation before.

Do we have it in the country or will I have to import?

There are smart energy monitors in country with switching function that can serve you . Pair it with a properly sized contactor for heavy loads.

Royle2014:
Planning to get one for my shop self. Omo d thing cost sha. 2kwh battery +1kwh inverter for 700k plus...

If not for the steep installation costs nd plenty materials (breakers etc), that 700k for fit tidy small proper inverter setup with a 2.5kwh Naija made lithium battery bank and a 2kwh hybrid inverter nd 400watts panel.

Yh
Its around 690k on jumia
Have you heard any reviews on it so far
Im stuck between getting it or delta 2 ecoflow

FEGEITOK:
Will have to tear apart the board housing the fuses/breakers and changeover since those wires are all 1 color which makes it difficult to who what wire is which from just looking.

I will also need to be this because of a less than intuitive arrangement of wires, in my former residence, from just looking one would know these are the incoming wires and these are the outgoing wires.

It doesn't help that we also have 2 meters which sort of complicates the wiring setup.

Will report back when I do

It may be also some cunny cunny wiring to bypass nepa meter or at least to run less than one phase on the nepa meter.

GloriousGbola:
It may be also some cunny cunny wiring to bypass nepa meter or at least to run less than one phase on the nepa meter.

Valid point, my neighbor has never recharged the meter since I came unless she is using the wireless module to recharge.


When I saw a house metered the other day, the official asked the houseowner for N20,000.00 to make the meter read slowly.

I am now more emboldened to tear apart those boards and really check what is going on behind them

Dam5reey1:
This thing you did now, na only you if i post same it will be deleted.

If its true, then be like dem don bookmark una wey be sellers. Any pimmmm ! Delete 🤣

But I'm surprised the picture own gets deleted too. I mean putting the price encoded in a picture. I no wan believe say nairaland don advance to get OCR decoding from images.

Valto:
he don't seem to get it. some username are already flagged. there are things i can't post with this my moniker, but can post with an alternate one. seun is a follower of this thread

Choi!
That explains it then.
Seun abeg na, help your boys if you too like DIY solar stuffs.

FEGEITOK:
Valid point, my neighbor has never recharged the meter since I came unless she is using the wireless module to recharge.


When I saw a house metered the other day, the official asked the houseowner for N20,000.00 to make the meter read slowly.

I am now more emboldened to tear apart those boards and really check what is going on behind them

Just dont by mistake bypass Nepa meters o! that na crime,

If I understand you present predicament well , I think what you should do is trace what is going on rather than meddle close to the meter. I suspect the cause of your challenge is the automatic neutral wire selection by your inverter. I am presently having the same challenge in my house with ONE inverter out of the TWO connected. I have been using both for long and did not change any connection, but suddenly one of the inverters started backfeeding to the grid with very high consumption WHEN NEPA IS OFF AND I SWITCH THE INVERTER ON. The only way to STOP this excessive discharge is to disconnect from the grid by putting my changover to neutral OR use it in BYPASS mode with the ON switch off.

If you have one, try and put an automatic change switch before the AC input to your inverter and see. AC supply to your inverter will only now occur if there is GRID and prevents a backflow

Valto:
he don't seem to get it. some username are already flagged. there are things i can't post with this my moniker, but can post with an alternate one. seun is a follower of this thread

Them no know say bots don dey patrol your movement.

So long as you have an old account and you're advertising in some way or form, the bots will eventually flag you and once that happens, frustration begins until you find a unique way to counter them. And just like energy requirement for individuals differ, the way to counter these bots also differs

Price removal test:

12v 4kwh - 400 k
12v 2kwh - 350 k
24v 8kwh - 800 k
24v 7kwh - 700 k
48v 14kwh - 1.9 m
48v 16kwh - 2.1 m

The prices were not removed. It may be they want active sellers to pay for ads on nairaland, considering some have made substantial revenue here.

How Nairaland Solar FTA thread has helped me:

This may be a long post, but I want to thank everyone on this thread for their help. Many people read stuff here anonymously, believe me.

So let me start. I bought 12 panels from a dealer (supposedly 450W each; Afri-something panel). I was happy initially but started noticing that my batteries (lead acid - 8 x 220Ah) were not being fully charged. During installation, I asked the dealer if LFP or lead acid was better. He said LFP was better but far more expensive, only for me to come here and find out that, considering all variables, LFP is cheaper (but that is a story for another day), so let me continue my panel story.

After looking at the data, I found out that the supposed 450W x 12 panels never exceeded 2700W, even during the dry season. I was expecting about 4500W (I did not mind the panels not reaching their 100% rate which would be 5400W or so), but 2700W was too low for me. The charge controller (CC) was rated 45A, so I concluded the CC was reducing the panel output. The inverter system was 48V, so that could not be the problem.

Later, I got a 100A CC but the power still did not increase. I washed the panels - no increase. I brought an installer to check the connections - no increase. That's when I realized that I had been sold a substandard panel. I complained to the dealer, but he said nothing was wrong with the panels (what else would he say?).

I could not use those panels because their very presence began to irritate me. I offloaded them (at an honest rate) to someone else and came here. It was here that I found that panel sellers were not doing good things to people. However, on one of the threads, Fouani and Techland were mentioned as legit panel sellers. I went with Techland. I bought 12 x 485W Jinko panels for less than I bought the useless 450W panels. On second day of installation, I saw 4800W. I was happy.

Later, the panels brought down 6200W (about 517W per panel; more than 100% of the rated power). The panels still produce well and charge the batteries to full when the sun is good.

I am happy and sad at the same time. I wish I had come here earlier. The dealer wasted my time, money, and emotions. Even the charge controller, the dealer sold to me, I have offloaded it. Only the batteries remain, as they seem to be the most expensive part of the system to replace. Anyway, I am happy I did not buy LFP from the man because I could have been sold 5kwh as 15kwh.

Moral of the story.
> Before you spend a lot of money on anything. Do your OWN due diligence.
> Many sellers and installers just want to sell, and DO NOT care about your subsequent frustrations.
> DO NOT trust sellers who have not been recommended by MANY people.
> Poor installations may not only lead to financial loss, they could lead to death, because people who cut corners, cut corners in EVERYTHING.
> It is YOUR money. Do not let anyone cajole you into buying pain and loss.

God bless.

Tdoctor:
How Nairaland Solar FTA thread has helped me:

This may be a long post, but I want to thank everyone on this thread for their help. Many people read stuff here anonymously, believe me.

So let me start. I bought 12 panels from a dealer (supposedly 450W each; Afri-something panel). I was happy initially but started noticing that my batteries (lead acid - 8 x 220Ah) were not being fully charged. During installation, I asked the dealer if LFP or lead acid was better. He said LFP was better but far more expensive, only for me to come here and find out that, considering all variables, LFP is cheaper (but that is a story for another day), so let me continue my panel story.

After looking at the data, I found out that the supposed 450W x 12 panels never exceeded 2700W, even during the dry season. I was expecting about 4500W (I did not mind the panels not reaching their 100% rate which would be 5400W or so), but 2700W was too low for me. The charge controller (CC) was rated 45A, so I concluded the CC was reducing the panel output. The inverter system was 48V, so that could not be the problem.

Later, I got a 100A CC but the power still did not increase. I washed the panels - no increase. I brought an installer to check the connections - no increase. That's when I realized that I had been sold a substandard panel. I complained to the dealer, but he said nothing was wrong with the panels (what else would he say?).

I could not use those panels because their very presence began to irritate me. I offloaded them (at an honest rate) to someone else and came here. It was here that I found that panel sellers were not doing good things to people. However, on one of the threads, Fouani and Techland were mentioned as legit panel sellers. I went with Techland. I bought 12 x 485W Jinko panels for less than I bought the useless 450W panels. On second day of installation, I saw 4800W. I was happy.

Later, the panels brought down 6200W (about 517W per panel; more than 100% of the rated power). The panels still produce well and charge the batteries to full when the sun is good.

I am happy and sad at the same time. I wish I had come here earlier. The dealer wasted my time, money, and emotions. Even the charge controller, the dealer sold to me, I have offloaded it. Only the batteries remain, as they seem to be the most expensive part of the system to replace. Anyway, I am happy I did not buy LFP from the man because I could have been sold 5kwh as 15kwh.

Moral of the story.
> Before you spend a lot of money on anything. Do your OWN due diligence.
> Many sellers and installers just want to sell, and DO NOT care about your subsequent frustrations.
> DO NOT trust sellers who have not been recommended by MANY people.
> Poor installations may not only lead to financial loss, they could lead to death, because people who cut corners, cut corners in EVERYTHING.
> It is YOUR money. Do not let anyone cajole you into buying pain and loss.

God bless.

Please name the riff raff who ripped you off. So future buyers who don't have your resources will not make the same mistake

durodee:
Just dont by mistake bypass Nepa meters o! that na crime,

If I understand you present predicament well , I think what you should do is trace what is going on rather than meddle close to the meter. I suspect the cause of your challenge is the automatic neutral wire selection by your inverter. I am presently having the same challenge in my house with ONE inverter out of the TWO connected. I have been using both for long and did not change any connection, but suddenly one of the inverters started backfeeding to the grid with very high consumption WHEN NEPA IS OFF AND I SWITCH THE INVERTER ON. The only way to STOP this excessive discharge is to disconnect from the grid by putting my changover to neutral OR use it in BYPASS mode with the ON switch off.

If you have one, try and put an automatic change switch before the AC input to your inverter and see. AC supply to your inverter will only now occur if there is GRID and prevents a backflow

Finally someone who has walked the same path I am walking.

I have a manual changeover switch, thanks for the suggestion.

I have always felt that it is a grid backflow issue

Tdoctor:
How Nairaland Solar FTA thread has helped me:

This may be a long post, but I want to thank everyone on this thread for their help. Many people read stuff here anonymously, believe me.

Moral of the story.
> Before you spend a lot of money on anything. Do your OWN due diligence.

> Many sellers and installers just want to sell, and DO NOT care about your subsequent frustrations.

> DO NOT trust sellers who have not been recommended by MANY people.

> Poor installations may not only lead to financial loss, they could lead to death, because people who cut corners, cut corners in EVERYTHING.
>

It is YOUR money. Do not let anyone cajole you into buying pain and loss.

God bless.

I have preached the same gospel in the past.

My 700w panels, some of my best investments, I get the full value of the panels from time to time, I think I could have gotten more if not for the controller bottleneck of 1.4kW.

People who cut corners, cut corners in everything. That is the only gospel I have not preached but I will henceforth preach. I was taping the earthing cable with green adhesive tape and the electrical guy asked me, am I trying to suggest that if I do not tape the cable, it will not work? I told them it is the law that the earth cable should be green, the other guy said which law in a mocking manner, this same guy took several of my 1.5 inch screws without informing me, and only informed me because I suddenly entered the sitting room and saw him in the act. I am very disappointed in him, but then people who cut corners, cut corners in everything!

I forgot to add that in the course of our discusssion, I learned that he does electricity bypass after sundown which he restores first thing in the morning

FEGEITOK:
Finally someone who has walked the same path I am walking.

I have a manual changeover switch, thanks for the suggestion.

I have always felt that it is a grid backflow issue

Another thing i thought about now. Do you have an AC current/voltage limiter installed in your inverter input side? If not install one since it is polarised, it should not allow backfeeding to inverter i believe.

favouredbymercy:
Another thing i thought about now. Do you have an AC current/voltage limiter installed in your inverter input side? If not install one since it is polarised, it should not allow backfeeding to inverter i believe.

I do not have.

Please recommend a brand and/or seller

FEGEITOK:
I do not have.

Please recommend a brand and/or seller

This is what I use. Sellers are here. Its on jumia and solar shops too.

FEGEITOK:
My neighbor is asking that |I supply them power from my alternative to AEDC.

Please recommend a cheap but functional meter that I can use to ensure that I can monitor their consumption if anyone has been through this situation before.

Do we have it in the country or will I have to import?

I have two ABB meters I used for something like this. Very rugged. Drop your digts.

abuzz33:
I have two ABB meters I used for something like this. Very rugged. Drop your digts.

This thing go cost!

How much e be?

12kw 48v Growatt hybrid inverter ES model available now.

FEGEITOK:
My neighbor is asking that |I supply them power from my alternative to AEDC.

Please recommend a cheap but functional meter that I can use to ensure that I can monitor their consumption if anyone has been through this situation before.

Do we have it in the country or will I have to import?

Got this from Zeestone a while back. U have an idea of what's bin consumed, u can schedule when it comes on and the max power per time all remotely

GloriousGbola:
Please name the riff raff who ripped you off. So future buyers who don't have your resources will not make the same mistake

My brother. This na cartel things. It's not just one dealer. It's a system. Your duty is to protect yourself.

Please, I'd like to ask a question regarding lithium vs Lead acid

I notice with my lead acid that when you put on a heavy device (>2000W) at night (no sunlight) the battery voltage keeps dropping until it goes below the inverter voltage trip point. However, the SOC may still be high > 95%.
1. Does this happen with lithium?
2. Can you use an AC at night and the inverter will not trip?
3. Are my batteries fake/substandard? Does it happen with all lead acid batteries?

Thanks in advance.

Tdoctor:
Please, I'd like to ask a question regarding lithium vs Lead acid

I notice with my lead acid that when you put on a heavy device (>2000W) at night (no sunlight) the battery voltage keeps dropping until it goes below the inverter voltage trip point. However, the SOC may still be high > 95%.
1. Does this happen with lithium?
2. Can you use an AC at night and the inverter will not trip?
3. Are my batteries fake/substandard? Does it happen with all lead acid batteries?

Thanks in advance.

That happens because lead acid has a very low continuous discharge rate. Generally under 0.2c, so for example loading two 150aH lead acid batteries (in a 24v setup) with anything more than 900w is asking for trouble, and it's only that high when the batteries are still new/in good shape.

1. No, it doesn't. In comparison, even the worst lithium battery is perfectly fine discharging at 0.5C. So a 150aH 24v lithium battery can handle 1.9kw pretty well, and a decent one would be fine even with 3.8kw load.

2. No reason why your inverter would trip, but that depends on the AC capacity, your battery capacity, and how long you plan on running it at night.

3. It's just a limitation of the chemistry. Lead-acid is ancient technology and no one should be buying lead acid in 2025.