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Tolupage:
You blindly argue this fact, for a case to be properly prosecuted, a motive is needed, owning a gun is not a motive, neither is all these other things you mentioned, even the gun law you all are trying to argue for, sniper rifles are not included as weapons to be banned...

Kirk is right one this one, schools should be protected by armed guards, children should be raised at home by complete family unit not Americans ripped of their constitutional rights to own a gun.

Military grade rifles should not be in the hands of a civilian. What’s a sniper rifle? Is it not for military use. Why should such be in the hands of a civilian. If anyone want to hunt, their are standard hunting rifles. How are doing it? They have strict gun laws and less casualties.

Which other first world country has armed guards in school? Are you listening to yourself? Having armed guards in schools? What reflection does that have on kids? That they not safe and a school is a potential place for a massacre. Why not address the major issue?

So same should be present in churches, shopping malls and even bars. How many places do you want to deploy armed guards.

Follow the numbers! Canada has got less than 50 mass shootings since the creation of the country and far less gang violence. Are they doing anything special or they don’t have right and left leaning individuals.

CoronaVirusPro:
Military grade rifles should not be in the hands of a civilian. What’s a sniper rifle? Is it not for military use. Why should such be in the hands of a civilian. If anyone want to hunt, their are standard hunting rifles. How are doing it? They have strict gun laws and less casualties.

Which other first world country has armed guards in school? Are you listening to yourself? Having armed guards in schools? What reflection does that have on kids? That they not safe and a school is a potential place for a massacre. Why not address the major issue?

So same should be present in churches, shopping malls and even bars. How many places do you want to deploy armed guards.

Follow the numbers! Canada has got less than 50 mass shootings since the creation of the country and far less gang violence. Are they doing anything special or they don’t have right and left leaning individuals.

Ask their founding fathers and the American constitution. Until you understand why Americans are conditionally allowed to carry guns you'd continue to argue this blindly.

Guns don't in itself kill, it is people who do, why not tackle the social and mental reasons behind the shooting?

Does Canada have zero gun death? No.
Should the Canadian government ban the use of guns too?


Understand the dynamics, USA is a country of 50+ different states, the policy as it's originally intended helps keep the balance and power of government in check.

Tolupage:
Ask their founding fathers and the American constitution. Until you understand why Americans are conditionally allowed to carry guns you'd continue to argue this blindly.

Guns don't in itself kill, it is people who do, why not tackle the social and mental reasons behind the shooting?

Does Canada have zero gun death? No.
Should the Canadian government ban the use of guns too?


Understand the dynamics, USA is a country of 50+ different states, the policy as it's originally intended helps keep the balance and power of government in check.

You keep flogging the idea that gun don’t kill people but people kill people. Present your notion with statistics.

Let’s compare gun violence in US with UK, Canada, Italy, Japan, India, China or even Russia.

What makes the US different? Because of an outdated constitution that happens to be taken a big toll on human life’s.

To you personally, does it make sense. That I can calmly walk into a gun shop or website and order a AR15 Gilboa with extended magazine.

How sane does it sound to you that a country exist where the police, military and civilian use same type of assault rifle.

I never contested with you it’s not a constitutional right, my point is that, it is senseless and outdated.

Stats don’t lie. America is not as populated as China or India, and they still have lesser gun violence. Keep your hunting guns and pistols and take away assault weapons. That will still do a lot.

As at September 2025, more than 100 mass shooting and you still here talking about constitutional right.

Harnny:
Yes... killing him is wrong. So is the killing of the Israelis by Hamas. So is the killing of Palestinians by idf. So is the killing by Bokos and Fulani Heards men.

Harnny good evening. I felt I should just try to ask you something please. Do you see or think that the context of the events we are witnessing today are different? I mean like the conflict in the Middle East between Israel and the Palestinians and hostile states near them with the cold blooded premeditated murder of this man Charlie? So you think they are the same? Thank you....

GiftofGod77:
Harnny good evening. I felt I should just try to ask you something please. Do you see or think that the context of the events we are witnessing today are different? I mean like the conflict in the Middle East between Israel and the Palestinians and hostile states near them with the cold blooded premeditated murder of this man Charlie? So you think they are the same? Thank you....

the killer has been exposed to weapons and might choose to or not to kill people with the weapon. He choose to do so. The idf soldiers has been exposed to weapons and can choose to or not choose to snipe children and thier mother's. However? They choose to. Regardless of the context, both chooses to kill the other simply because of ideological differences. Same shit happening in northern Nigerian.

CoronaVirusPro:
Was it the transgender partner that told him to go murder someone cos I don’t like understand the point of the news.

That dude comes from a christian gun loving family and all Republicans as stated by his grandmother.

His pictures as a kid with guns all over the internet and NY times is talking about his transgender partner.

From those childhood pictures, the parents would have been arrested in a sane country. Look at the guns dude was handling as a kid. Why he had an exceptional handling and aim.

I knew it,it will be death penalty and nothing will save him his own will be abrupt

Harnny:
the killer has been exposed to weapons and might choose to or not to kill people with the weapon. He choose to do so. The idf soldiers has been exposed to weapons and can choose to or not choose to snipe children and thier mother's. However? They choose to. Regardless of the context, both chooses to kill the other simply because of ideological differences. Same shit happening in northern Nigerian.

No Sir. The killer actually had a choice. The killers here in northern Nigeria did have a choice because they were once ordinary civilians not belonging to state army with constitutional mandate. The idf are an arm of government charged to defend their state. A state in today's world is perpetual and reserves the right to protect it's territorial integrity and to provide security of lives and property. They are not the same my brother. The idf carries our orders given to it by it's legitimate political leadership. They have no choice of their own except in the method of executing the mandate given to them. They are two polar instances. I am not approving the killing of harmless people in any way but for me I don't think individuals enjoy the same rights or mandates to take life except the state in certain circumstances.

CoronaVirusPro:
Did you see his picture as a kid with guns? He is used to the tool from childhood and why he could attain such level of perfection at 22 years old.

I watched the interview of a Ex marine who said even a US sniper won’t aim for the neck cos it’s its a risky shot and the head would have been his best shot. Telling you how good he was and confident of it.

Look at the first picture. If you know guns very well, you will know that, If a kid at that age can hold a rifle like that, then we has gone through the primary stages of handling.

My brother. I understand if someone becomes good at shooting ARs from constant practice but been good enough to shoot with such high precision using a sniper rifle takes military experience. I may be wrong, maybe the guy also learned to do that.

GiftofGod77:
No Sir. The killer actually had a choice. The killers here in northern Nigeria did have a choice because they were once ordinary civilians not belonging to state army with constitutional mandate. The idf are an arm of government charged to defend their state. A state in today's world is perpetual and reserves the right to protect it's territorial integrity and to provide security of lives and property. They are not the same my brother. The idf carries our orders given to it by it's legitimate political leadership. They have no choice of their own except in the method of executing the mandate given to them. They are two polar instances. I am not approving the killing of harmless people in any way but for me I don't think individuals enjoy the same rights or mandates to take life except the state in certain circumstances.

even in the military, there are rules of engagement. If your superior orders you to break it, you have a choice not to.

Harnny:
even in the military, there are rules of engagement. If your superior orders you to break it, you have a choice not to.

Yes but that is not why the military was setup. It is not an institution where one chooses which order to obey or which not especially when the state is under an attack of a military nature. Note an attack of a military nature. There is every legitimate justification to protect the territorial integrity and lives of it's citizens.

GiftofGod77:
Yes but that is not why the military was setup. It is not an institution where one chooses which order to obey or which not especially when the state is under an attack of a military nature. Note an attack of a military nature. There is every legitimate justification to protect the territorial integrity and lives of it's citizens.

including sniping children?. Bro!... if you were a soldier and we are at war with Cameroon. You will obey an order to kill children? Kill paramedics and bury thier vans?

Harnny:
including sniping children?. Bro!... if you were a soldier and we are at war with Cameroon. You will obey an order to kill children? Kill paramedics and bury thier vans?

What are you actually trying to let us see, sniping children or soldiers obeying orders to protect their nations? Those instances you are trying to show using rhetoric questions were they orders or collateral damage?

GiftofGod77:
What are you actually trying to let us see, sniping children or soldiers obeying orders to protect their nations? Those instances you are trying to show using rhetoric questions were they orders or collateral damage?

gift of God claims children might be collateral damage. Killing children as a way to protect a nation. Children trying to get food for thier family. It is just another evidence of how further down the drain our morals as humans has gone. Answer the question I asked you and you will see how messed up your morals are because of your ideology.

Harnny:
gift of God claims children might be collateral damage. Killing children as a way to protect a nation. Children trying to get food for thier family. It is just another evidence of how further down the drain our morals as humans has gone. Answer the question I asked you and you will see how messed up your morals are because of your ideology.

No sir. You have got it all wrong. No body is justifying the killing of children or how you are putting it . You are only holding on to those instances where civilians or children were killed in the course of the military operation carried out to flush out or being justice to an organization that has decided to commit homicidal and suicidal murder as a theme and ideology. Then the organisation uses its own people as human shields to enhance it's deadly plans. And you are here trying to create an impression that the idf just woke up for no reason and started sniping children in your own words. I will advice you to get your facts straight please so that people will not misunderstand you. To answer you frontally any state will protect it's territorial integrity. And any group that propagates violence or makes the ideology of hate and violence will experience the principle of what goes around comes around. Instead of suing for peace and passing peace to the next generation some people will just adopt hatred and violence as a means to their ends forgetting that what goes around comes around. My advice sir is for peace and peace alone. Enough of all this hate and blood letting sir. Let's call a spade a spade the way it is and not twist the narratives. So please we need clear advice please. No distortions.

GiftofGod77:
No sir. You have got it all wrong. No body is justifying the killing of children or how you are putting it . You are only holding on to those instances where civilians or children were killed in the course of the military operation carried out to flush out or being justice to an organization that has decided to commit homicidal and suicidal murder as a theme and ideology. Then the organisation uses its own people as human shields to enhance it's deadly plans. And you are here trying to create an impression that the idf just woke up for no reason and started sniping children in your own words. I will advice you to get your facts straight please so that people will not misunderstand you. To answer you frontally any state will protect it's territorial integrity. And any group that propagates violence or makes the ideology of hate and violence will experience the principle of what goes around comes around. Instead of suing for peace and passing peace to the next generation some people will just adopt hatred and violence as a means to their ends forgetting that what goes around comes around. My advice sir is for peace and peace alone. Enough of all this hate and blood letting sir. Let's call a spade a spade the way it is and not twist the narratives. So please we need clear advice please. No distortions.

this is funny. Like I said. It is based on your ideology that you support the killing of defenseless people on one side justifying it as human shield and condemn it on another side justifying it as terrorism. The Ibo also saw themselves as fighting for freedom from Nigeria and occupied by Nigerian government. Let's assume you are Ibo. What you sound like is someone who will be happy If the Biafran soldiers kills an hausa child but sad if the Nigerian army kills an ibo child.

Harnny:
this is funny. Like I said. It is based on your ideology that you support the killing of defenseless people on one side justifying it as human shield and condemn it on another side justifying it as terrorism. The Ibo also saw themselves as fighting for freedom from Nigeria and occupied by Nigerian government. Let's assume you are Ibo. What you sound like is someone who will be happy If the Biafran soldiers kills an hausa child but sad if the Nigerian army kills an ibo child.

No please it is you who is taking instances out of context in order to pain a picture which is not so. I am not funny and neither are those parties in conflict are. It is not my ideology but rather your own perception that certain people who are vulnerable are killed deliberately for no reason just like that. As if the idf just woke up and started sniping children to use your own words. This is taking events out of context to paint a picture which is quite reductionist and misleading. All killings are bad but my brother you cannot choose your own perception out of context and stand on it which is reductionist and making your view, though very laudable and credible, to look as if you are just trying to take a side with for the sake of taking a side without carefully weighing the cause effects and events that build up and lead to the end of such conflicts. Thank you.

GiftofGod77:
No please it is you who is taking instances out of context in order to pain a picture which is not so. I am not funny and neither are those parties in conflict are. It is not my ideology but rather your own perception that certain people who are vulnerable are killed deliberately for no reason just like that. As if the idf just woke up and started sniping children to use your own words. This is taking events out of context to paint a picture which is quite reductionist and misleading. All killings are bad but my brother you cannot choose your own perception out of context and stand on it which is reductionist and making your view, though very laudable and credible, to look as if you are just trying to take a side with for the sake of taking a side without carefully weighing the cause effects and events that build up and lead to the end of such conflicts. Thank you.

started sniping children according to your word still goes a long way to state who you are. You choose not to believe it because it does not fit your narrative. For no just reason means that even if they are, there is justification for it. Look into the mirror bro.

Harnny:
started sniping children according to your word still goes a long way to state who you are. You choose not to believe it because it does not fit your narrative. For no just reason means that even if they are, there is justification for it. Look into the mirror bro.

To be honest with you sir I don't really seem to get you. Are you implying or saying I am putting forward a narrative that with due respect, according to your own words "sniping children..", justifies the killing of children? I am still a student of English language. Please is that what you perceive of me?

Denko2721987:
Where did he learn to shoot lile a sniper with the precision of a marksman. Why isnt anyone asking this question. Videos games cant just teach you. I feel this guy was used as the fall guy. The real killers (Israeli and American agents) are out there just like Jeffery Epstein is probably still alive

Rubbish!