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RealityKings1:
I have read this part like 8 times and I still can't understand it

Omoh!! Me sef don turn my brain inside out like 3 times and I still don't get it......abeg who fit hep us ?

Any little protest in Africa like this, some useless people will just start looting shops, malls and people businesses.
Awon ole

Chinese are very wicked.
They're are behind fraudulent loan apps in Nigeria.
They mine minerals illegally.
They're also into yahoo yahoo.

Jakumo:
The Chinese are not giving out those loans for charity. In the terms and conditions of such loans, the Chinese insert clauses that allow them to take over ownership of LAND in countries outside China, thereby becoming stake-holders by force, in many countries whose leaders are either too greedy or too ignorant to know what the Chinese end-game is for countries that default o their loans.

To your first line, no one lends out of charity or benevolence. It's a loan not gift.

Two, you're infamous for being rabid anri-China rhetoric on Nairaland, so I'm not surprised by your criticism. But here is the thing: Without Chinese investments and technical knowledge, many Africans and African countries would have been poorer than ever before. China has contributed immensely to the development of Africans and the wider continent.

In Nigeria, the bulk of FDI into factories and mines are by the Chinese. Your lovey-dovey Western countries aren't investing at the same as the Chinese do. Elsewhere on the continent, Chinese investments have created hundreds and thousands of jobs in far-flung areas. They have revamped communities and with cheap Chinese technologies such as phones, telecommunications equipment and solar panels, many Africans can enjoy modern technology at an affordable rate.

China isn't perfect, but it's a force for good.

Gracious3105:
If you have ever worked in a Chinese owned company and see the details on how they signed deals with government you won't say this.
Africa need no outsider for development we just need commitment and the people who love this land to be in the realm of affairs. You see those outsiders they are all paracites whether Chinese, Indians, Russians, Europeans and the Americans (the first two are worst). You can see what Ethiopia did when they constructed their newly commissioned dam.

Congratulations to Ethiopia for its feat, but all African countries aren't Ethiopia. Some need technical support and that's where China comes in.

Before you sign a loan, you have to read the terms and conditions of the loan na. When did a loan become a gift? If you don't like Chinese, go to the IMF as Ghana has done 17 times. China won't invade your country because you decline its loans. Which African country has China Libyaed?

Most importantly, there's no prosperous country in recorded history that developed and became prosperous without foreign investments and involvement. You cannot do it alone.

Afrobasic:
The West has a huge hand to play in all these protests. For one they do not want the global south to prosper. Another reason is they do not want China to prosper.

You know the drill. Many Nigerians are just so igno rant, else they will see who are their true enemies.

CaseSensitive:
US doing what US does best. "Africa Defense Forum magazine (adf magazine)" is owned an operated by US Africa Command (AFRICOM) which is a branch of US department of defence.

This is their whole plan- create anti-China, anti-Russia resentment among Africans and it's sad that it always works because we Africans can't see through the manipulation, disinformation and misinformation. This is part of what they sent General Michael Langley to do in Africa. Strengthening US-Africa relationship through chaos, lining the pockets of hungry "investigate journalists" in Africa.

Just like it knew it!

Anytime I see an uprising against a government or a certain group of people, I ask myself: How much has China invested into this country?

What does Jakumo have to say about the US disrupting Chinese investments in poor Angola?

Gerrard59:
Just when the Chinese announced investment worth $350m into Angola's agricultural industry?

Few days ago, the same "protests" in Indonesia where Chinese investors have ploughed over $5BN into factories and mines.

Why are some people unhappy with Chinese investments across the global south?

The Chinese generally pay low wages and that might be the root of the resentment.
They may also be edging out local businesses.

Most people say they prefer china and russia to the west. So funny.

grandstar:
The Chinese generally pay low wages and that might be the root of the resentment.
They may also be edging out local businesses.

Angolans aren't skilled enough to earn higher wages. The birth rate is too high to entice employers to pay higher. Angola suffered a civil war which has resulted in absent infrastructure. Angola is no Vietnam or Thailand.

I do agree that Chinese should either partner with the locals before they participate in retail economy.

Gerrard59:
Angolans aren't skilled enough to earn higher wages. The birth rate is too high to entice employers to pay higher. Angola suffered a civil war which has resulted in absent infrastructure. Angola is no Vietnam or Thailand.

I do agree that Chinese should either partner with the locals before they participate in retail economy.

All they know is sex and religion.. But to sit down and crack their heads... It is forbidden.

Among other things, Chinese loans built the new Dr. Antonio Agostinho Neto International Airport that opened in 2024. The new facility can serve 15 million passengers and 600,000 tons of cargo a year. It is the largest Chinese-financed airport outside China, according to AidData

Omoh... The Chinese really tried in building this airport.
From what I heard but have not yet verified it, it is the biggest airport in Africa.
So massive and so big.
Ia am happy for Angola because the old international airport doesn't befit them has the highest oil producing country in Africa with just 30m population.
I was wondering what they are using their money for? Too much corruption just to have an airport like Calabar airport and that is the only international airport in the country sef.
But the issue I have with the new airport is that it is very very far away from Luanda.
About 2 hours drive.
It is just like having Lagos airport at Ijebu Ode while my company's guest house is at iyana ipaja (Luanda).
It is too far from the city central.
The old one is just right inside the city. After immigration clearing, just 20 mins to the guest house or 10m to hotel

fredoooooo:
The west and China don get another Battle ground using the citizen to cause uproar

Reread the article and take your time to analyse before you comment. The problem lies directly with the Angolan government, which allowed uncontrolled immigration into the country from China.

Overdependence on China's loans and expertise for country development, coupled with reliance on a single raw material —crude oil —as the primary source of foreign exchange, which the Chinese no longer require.

Angola is home to about 300,000 Chinese citizens, one of the largest Chinese communities on the continent. Chinese citizens own factories and mines in the country. They also play a large role in Angola’s construction industry and in its retail markets. Nearly 100 Chinese-owned shops in Luanda were vandalized when violence erupted in late July.

Angola has been Africa’s biggest beneficiary of China’s Belt and Road Initiative, which has provided the country with $68.6 billion in loans for crucial infrastructure between 2000 and 2021, according to AidData, a project that tracks Chinese Belt and Road investments around the world.

In some cases, the finished Chinese projects suffered setbacks. In 2010,[b] for example, the $8 billion Chinese-built Luanda General Hospita[/b]l was forced to close shortly after opening when cracks in the building raised the possibility that it might collapse. It reopened two years later after extensive repairs.

“Chinese investments did not fulfill the expectations of improving Angola’s technological capacity and infrastructure,” analyst Sumie Yoshikawa wrote earlier this year for the Eurasian Review. “In addition, many of the roads, houses, and buildings constructed by Chinese companies were of remarkably low quality.”

Gerrard59:
Congratulations to Ethiopia for its feat, but all African countries aren't Ethiopia. Some need technical support and that's where China comes in.

Before you sign a loan, you have to read the terms and conditions of the loan na. When did a loan become a gift? If you don't like Chinese, go to the IMF as Ghana has done 17 times. China won't invade your country because you decline its loans. Which African country has China Libyaed?

Most importantly, there's no prosperous country in recorded history that developed and became prosperous without foreign investments and involvement. You cannot do it alone.

In the billion-dollar Zimbabwe Hwange Expansion project, the Zimbabwe government ensured that they had comparable engineers and managers who worked and collaborated with the Chinese to ensure that every item that was procured met international standards and regulations.

Angola appears to be another oil-rich African country, similar to Nigeria, that squanders resources on white elephant projects, such as the $8 billion Chinese-built Luanda General Hospital, which was completed with cracks. Why spend $8 billion on one hospital when you can build 100 general hospitals across the country?

In 2010, for example, the $8 billion Chinese-built Luanda General Hospital was forced to close shortly after opening when cracks in the building raised the possibility that it might collapse. It reopened two years later after extensive repairs.

This documentary follows the extraordinary work of Zimbabwe Power Company (ZPC) Engineers during the construction of the Hwange Expansion Project, from Ground to Grandeur.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMV15YzCZrg&t=1676s

Afrobasic:
The West has a huge hand to play in all these protests. For one they do not want the global south to prosper. Another reason is they do not want China to prosper.

Do china want the global south to prosper?

emmaodet:
Omoh... The Chinese really tried in building this airport.
From what I heard but have not yet verified it, it is the biggest airport in Africa.
So massive and so big.
Ia am happy for Angola because the old international airport doesn't befit them has the highest oil producing country in Africa with just 30m population.
I was wondering what they are using their money for? Too much corruption just to have an airport like Calabar airport and that is the only international airport in the country sef.
But the issue I have with the new airport is that it is very very far away from Luanda.
About 2 hours drive.
It is just like having Lagos airport at Ijebu Ode while my company's guest house is at iyana ipaja (Luanda).
It is too far from the city central.
The old one is just right inside the city. After immigration clearing, just 20 mins to the guest house or 10m to hotel

Point of correction, Angola is not highest oil producing country in Africa. They are number 3 behind Nigeria & Algeria.

Fear USA and the West...this all could be sponsored. The rise of China is causing a concern

BlackViper:
https://adf-magazine.com/2025/09/anti-chinese-anger-erupts-in-violence-in-angolan-capital/?twclid=2-7exzuclc3h0bpgi0xdx7r78no

Africans are the bottom chain of human existence. Poverty and lack of development is go side by side with black Africans even with natural resources.

By the time they impregnate all your women and turn your countries into a majority mulatto, you dumb Africans will finally wake up but for now keep accepting them and their Greek gifts. Hope you know China have a serious gender imbalance because they have aborted all their female children during the one child policy.

horlando30:
Point of correction, Angola is not highest oil producing country in Africa. They are number 3 behind Nigeria & Algeria.

Maybe now.
There was a time Nigeria and Angola were shuffling the number 1 spot between themselves depending on the vandalization in Nigeria

Gerrard59:
Just when the Chinese announced investment worth $350m into Angola's agricultural industry?

Few days ago, the same "protests" in Indonesia where Chinese investors have ploughed over $5BN into factories and mines.

Why are some people unhappy with Chinese investments across the global south?

Maybe because they are nasty investors to delay with

Thought bout that?

Maybe their known track record of being unethical?

The global south are not stupid
They can see with their eyes what China is about

Ppl will blame this on "the west" now
Just wait and see lol

Gerrard59:
You know the drill. Many Nigerians are just so igno rant, else they will see who are their true enemies.

According to Gerrard59
West = Enemies
China = Friends

Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣

Nothing Musa no go see for gate

Just like I predicted
Yall are gonna blame "the west" for this

Dreamhans1:
Do china want the global south to prosper?

China just wants to trade in peace.

CaseSensitive:
US doing what US does best. "Africa Defense Forum magazine (adf magazine)" is owned and operated by US Africa Command (AFRICOM) which is a branch of US department of defence.

This is their whole plan- create anti-China, anti-Russia resentment among Africans and it's sad that it always works because we Africans can't see through the manipulation, disinformation and misinformation. This is part of what they sent General Michael Langley to do in Africa. Strengthening US-Africa relationship through chaos, lining the pockets of hungry "investigate journalists" in Africa.

We Africans are the worst set of mumus on this planet. Look at all the anti China sentiments in the comments. African people will ultimately kpai out of ignorance. Why is Africa so slow? And we just fall for western misinformation and psychological manipulation? O ga oooo.
I think we should stop having children because right now we don’t need them.

RodgersAkpafu:
Maybe because they are nasty investors to delay with

Thought bout that?

Maybe their known track record of being unethical?

The global south are not stupid
They can see with their eyes what China is about

Ppl will blame this on "the west" now
Just wait and see lol

How old are you people? Can you please go and research the West’s relationship with Africa for the past 500 years. Why are we so easy to fool ?

ibedun:
How old are you people? Can you please go and research the West’s relationship with Africa for the past 500 years. Why are we so easy to fool ?

Question 1: Old enough

Question 2: Maybe Africans aren't fooled by thr Chinese (or Russian) gimmicks

Having dealt with both groups of people while on the continent, as much as both sides are out to "rip" Africans off

The Western side is ALWAYS the better choice

Afterall, most of the well run, high paying jobs on the continent are western subsidiaries

What is the labour practices of the Chinese in comparison to this?

Its the Africans who think that the Chinese are the answer are the ones that have been fooled

Look at what the Chinese have done to Zambia

Gerrard59:
Just when the Chinese announced investment worth $350m into Angola's agricultural industry?

Few days ago, the same "protests" in Indonesia where Chinese investors have ploughed over $5BN into factories and mines.

Why are some people unhappy with Chinese investments across the global south?

Even here in America authorities are not happy with china. Now they are banning the use of E-smoke through out the USA. They said china is getting rich while the youths are getting health issue from smoking the E-smoke.

sulaak:
In the billion-dollar Zimbabwe Hwange Expansion project, the Zimbabwe government ensured that they had comparable engineers and managers who worked and collaborated with the Chinese to ensure that every item that was procured met international standards and regulations.

To be fair though, Zimbabwe has a superior education system compared to Angola. But then, kudos to the Zims. This is what I have been preaching about: negotiate man to man with the Chinese and they would adjust, just without bombing the country.

Angola appears to be another oil-rich African country, similar to Nigeria, that squanders resources on white elephant projects, such as the $8 billion Chinese-built Luanda General Hospital, which was completed with cracks. Why spend $8 billion on one hospital when you can build 100 general hospitals across the country?

In 2010, for example, the $8 billion Chinese-built Luanda General Hospital was forced to close shortly after opening when cracks in the building raised the possibility that it might collapse. It reopened two years later after extensive repairs.

This documentary follows the extraordinary work of Zimbabwe Power Company (ZPC) Engineers during the construction of the Hwange Expansion Project, from Ground to Grandeur.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMV15YzCZrg&t=1676s

So, an Angolan fault, not the Chinese. Got it. But $8BN on a hospital? First time reading that a hospital costs so much.

RodgersAkpafu:
According to Gerrard59
West = Enemies
China = Friends

Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣

Nothing Musa no go see for gate

Just like I predicted
Yall are gonna blame "the west" for this

Why not? When did adf become an authoritatitive media on African affairs?

CaseSensitive:
US doing what US does best. "Africa Defense Forum magazine (adf magazine)" is owned and operated by US Africa Command (AFRICOM) which is a branch of US department of defence.

This is their whole plan- create anti-China, anti-Russia resentment among Africans and it's sad that it always works because we Africans can't see through the manipulation, disinformation and misinformation. This is part of what they sent General Michael Langley to do in Africa. Strengthening US-Africa relationship through chaos, lining the pockets of hungry "investigate journalists" in Africa.

I am not doing any "China is my friend, the West is my enemy" sort of thing. All I want is a prosperous Africa. The big power that invests towards such is who I align with.

ZaddyJ:
Even here in America authorities are not happy with china. Now they are banning the use of E-smoke through out the USA. They said china is getting rich while the youths are getting health issue from smoking the E-smoke.

How on earth did China become the cause of Americans' relationship with E-smoke? American youth, especially those who have non-East Asian ancestry have a cultural problem.

Dreamhans1:
Do china want the global south to prosper?

The Chinese have INVESTED in Africa more than the West have done. China is Africa's biggest trade partner. Chinese are building factories in Nasarawa, where graduates earn 500K per month. Chinese have built trains to transport containers from the north central to Lagos ports (first of its kind). Chinese are building factories in Kastina state. Chinese are building factories in Ogun state. Chinese are in Abia and Ebonyi building factories.

As it is, it is easier to get a visa to visit China than to visit the US. This is just Nigeria alone.

You people are ungrateful!