₦airaland Forum

LegendHero:
So with all this you epistle, you mean he told you he “booked an appointment”, they approved it, and he was still not able to see the doctor? Where in his statement does he say that he booked appointment?

He had to go to another hospital to book an appointment...

Segzy19:
I mentioned iny comment that personal doctor or nurse can bail him out of simple and uncomplicated illnesses, injuries or emergencies.
. In the end he went to get 'malaria and typhoid' drugs from the pharmacy... Those are types of the simple illnesses that I referred to

You call malaria and typhoid simple illnesses? Do you know here they may not get the machine that can diagnose the type of malaria and typhoid and match it with exact drugs that'd cure it?

Brendaniel:
He had to go to another hospital to book an appointment...

So how does this now negate my comment?

The problem in Nigeria is that we are not used to doing the right thing. That’s because bribery and favoritism is the main thing in Nigeria so there are lot of anyhowness.

LegendHero:
So how does this now negate my comment?

The problem in Nigeria is that we are not used to doing the right thing. That’s because bribery and favoritism is the main thing in Nigeria so there are lot of anyhowness.

You are still refusing to admit that the hospital he has been using for years failed him due to lack of available doctors, which is majorly due to doctors fleeing Nigeria for better pay abroad, that's the point.

Brendaniel:
You are still refusing to admit that the hospital he has been using for years failed him due to lack of available doctors, which is majorly due to doctors fleeing Nigeria for better pay abroad, that's the point.

No, you are the only doing assumption on the reason why he was not able to see doctors. Ever since then Don born me na doctors don dey japa from this country. The reason why it look apparent now is simply because we use social media now and the process is now more streamlined.

If the said hospital has no doctor because all of them don japa, why is the hospital door still open?

LegendHero:
No, you are the only doing assumption on the reason why he was not able to see doctors. Ever since then Don born me na doctors don dey japa from this country. The reason why it look apparent now is simply because we use social media now and the process is now more streamlined.

If the said hospital has no doctor because all of them don japa, why is the hospital door still open?

So are you saying the Nigerian Medical Association are telling lies?

Brendaniel:
So are you saying the Nigerian Medical Association are telling lies?

No they are not telling lies. It’s been this was since year 2000. It is the Sam exact thing I am telling you.

However, this does not in anyway negate the talk about appointments in the matter of discourse. That does not imply that a whole hospital won’t have a doctor.

Below is a 2012 report about the doctors brain drain in Africa to USA. Infact it’s been happening since the 2000s.

https://www.cgdev.org/article/africa-exodus-doctors-why-rwandas-story-different-allafrica

LegendHero:
No they are not telling lies. It’s been this was since year 2000. It is the Sam exact thing I am telling you.

However, this does not in anyway negate the talk about appointments in the matter of discourse. That does not imply that a whole hospital won’t have a doctor.

Below is a 2012 report about the doctors brain drain in Africa to USA. Infact it’s been happening since the 2000s.

https://www.cgdev.org/article/africa-exodus-doctors-why-rwandas-story-different-allafrica

See how you are trying to deflect, we are not talking about Africa but Nigeria in specific, also no one said the whole hospital does not have a doctor, but there are few doctors due to neglect of their welfare by Tinubu you support.

You couldn't even produce any report from Nigeria to back up your claim, you had to use Africa, how wicked can you people be...

supporting evil to your country because of tribe...

Brendaniel:
See how you are trying to deflect, we are not talking about Africa but Nigeria in specific, also no one said the whole hospital does not have a doctor, but there are few doctors due to neglect of their welfare by Tinubu you support.

You couldn't even produce any report from Nigeria to back up your claim, you had to use Africa, how wicked can you people be...

supporting evil to your country because of tribe...

Check what I post and tell me if Nigeria is not there. Nigeria is part of the brain drain since 2012 and it’s been happening since 2000. That you’re feigning ignorance in this is a call for concern.

My argument is that there are doctors in the hospital which you also confirm. My second argument is that he did not book an appointment before going there which you also confirm.

Then my last argument was that even abroad which is the UK he mentioned he will go to, he will need appointment to get to the doctor unless in case of chronic emergency.

LegendHero:
Check what I post and tell me if Nigeria is not there. Nigeria is part of the brain drain since 2012 and it’s been happening since 2000. That you’re feigning ignorance in this is a call for concern.

My argument is that there are doctors in the hospital which you also confirm. My second argument is that he did not book an appointment before going there which you also confirm.

Then my last argument was that even abroad which is the UK he mentioned he will go to, he will need appointment to get to the doctor unless in case of chronic emergency.

Ok, let's even assume you are right for a second, so are you saying because doctors have been leaving Nigeria before Tinubu became president due to poor welfare from the FG then it makes it normal for Tinubu not to change the situation?

So what exactly did he come to do differently from the previous leaders who came before him?

So because all them failed to stop it, then he should also join them to fail to stop it?

Brendaniel:
Ok, let's even assume you are right for a second, so are you saying because doctors have been leaving Nigeria before Tinubu became president due to poor welfare from the FG then it makes it normal for Tinubu not to change the situation?

So what exactly did he come to do differently from the previous leaders who came before him?

So because all them failed to stop it, then he should also join them to fail to stop it?

Yes, Tinubu cannot just change behavioral pattern of Nigerians in 2 years, it’s impossible.

How much do you think a doctor earn abroad? In USA for example it will be over $200k - $500k range annually. How much do you think Tinubu can pay doctors to pin them down in Nigeria and stop them from traveling? How much is our national budget?

If you’re a doctor and your colleague earn $300k annually abroad and Tinubu is promising you 5million per month in Nigeria, will you collect it? No right?

The only other way to stop them is by law that says if you finish as a medical student, you are barred from traveling out. That will be denying them their human right of free movement and will make Tinubu a dictator.

Now think yourself as president, tell me how you will stop me (a doctor for example) from taking up my $300k job in Texas if I have the offer.

LegendHero:
Yes, Tinubu cannot just change behavioral pattern of Nigerians in 2 years, it’s impossible.

How much do you think a doctor earn abroad? In USA for example it will be over $200k - $500k range annually. How much do you think Tinubu can pay doctors to pin them down in Nigeria and stop them from traveling? How much is our national budget?

If you’re a doctor and your colleague earn $300k annually abroad and Tinubu is promising you 5million per month in Nigeria, will you collect it? No right?

The only other way to stop them is by law that says if you finish as a medical student, you are barred from traveling out. That will be denying them their human right of free movement and will make Tinubu a dictator.

Now think yourself as president, tell me how you will stop me (a doctor for example) from taking up my $300k job in Texas if I have the offer.

Leave all these rants, the question you should be asking is, has he improved their welfare since he entered, he doesn't need to pay them like America to show he is doing something.

The question is, what has he done to improve their welfare?


If in 2 years nothing has been done, then when exactly is he planning to do it?

Brendaniel:
Leave all these rants, the question you should be asking is, has he improved their welfare since he entered, he doesn't need to pay them like America to show he is doing something.

The question is, what has he done to improve their welfare?


If in 2 years nothing has been done, then when exactly is he planning to do it?

They do that almost everytime. Even recently, FG was promise to release more funds and there was a time doctors are planning a strike for some decisions reached with FG and they already sorted it.

However, you have not answered my question. Nigeria government cannot compete yet with Western power in salaries and so far you have that gap if FG like make e dey dash doctors 2million, it won’t stop brain drain.

I am done with this argument. E don dey drag too much and time is importanr

LegendHero:
They do that almost everytime. Even recently, FG was promise to release more funds and there was a time doctors are planning a strike for some decisions reached with FG and they already sorted it.

However, you have not answered my question. Nigeria government cannot compete yet with Western power in salaries and so far you have that gap if FG like make e dey dash doctors 2million, it won’t stop brain drain.

I am done with this argument. E don dey drag too much and time is importanr

You are sounding as if Tinubu has done well for doctors and the health sector in Nigeria, if he has done so we as you are trying to.potray it, why is he not using the very same health sector he has done so well for?

It is like a man who buys food for his house and tells them to eat claiming he has done his best but avoid eating from the same food.

Does that make Any sense to you?

So Tinubu has done well for the health sector he doesn't have the confidence to use but wants his citizens to use...

This evil you guys are doing...