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Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by PeterObi4Presid: 2:40pm On Sep 25, 2025
But we should see corruption as what
Tax this tax that
All our money going down the gullet of politicians
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by NotGej: 2:40pm On Sep 25, 2025
Don’t see it so, while he’s wears watches that cost over 100 million naira. Shame of docile Nigerians who are been taken for fools.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Urgent1Million: 2:40pm On Sep 25, 2025
Nonsense and ingredients.
Even the FIRS boss himself won't pay any taxes if he has the chance. They only pay because the monies are deducted from their salaries.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Pootle: 2:41pm On Sep 25, 2025
not when its not well utilized
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by jiz: 2:41pm On Sep 25, 2025
Why we won't
The subsidy you removed what is the outcome on the lives of average Nigerians but hardship and pain
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by WizardOfNG: 2:42pm On Sep 25, 2025
Smartcitizen:
If you are not punishing Nigerians, why are you hiding everything about this new tax regime that will commence by next year?

Tell your officials to come and enlightened Nigerians more about this tax and stop behaving as if you are hiding something.


You don't even know what you are getting yourselves into by next year base on the situation of things in the country.


🥱🥱🥱
What are they hiding exactly? If I show you ten videos explaining the tax reforms explicitly, you will still ask same comment on another thread later today, tomorrow and even December.

They should come and give you a presentation in your home regarding information that is everywhere and accessible ba?

By their post we shall know them and it is amusing some of you think you can use the flimsiest of excuses to pretend you care about Nigeria or her progress.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8HMUaI9_s?si=k668GuKDZvHzF7AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgtaQAmTBKg?si=8yazF5TgILdIjij3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MganE8JzPc4?si=frV9cwZ05O38JfkO
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Baxilexi(m): 2:43pm On Sep 25, 2025
My issue is that the tax categories were not well thought through.

In Nigeria of today, a person earning 3m NGN annually is poor.

That’s 8,219 NGN (5.5 USD) daily. Can you guys give a breakdown of how you came about those categories? In view of the cost of a basket of food and cost of living adjustments in the face of high inflation.

3M annually is taxed at 15% = 800000 + 2200000(minus 0.15) = 2,670,000 (or 222,500 per month) NGN.

Note, there would be pension deduction, state tax, local government levies, association tax/levy, and other statutory payments.
Then expenses… how does this individual pay fees, rent, energy, transportation and save?

They should move the non-taxable category much higher and change it over time.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by nairalanda1(m): 2:43pm On Sep 25, 2025
The thing about taxes, is that it exposes two things

1.Government is not willing to diversify the economy

2.People are not ready to hold their government to account

3.Government is not serious about records

4.We are not ready to face the fact that revenue from 1.8 m bpd is not enough to pay for the needs of a nation of 230 million people.

Yes, most nigerians do not pay taxes.

If you don't believe me

1.PWC report 2016

2.Nigerians don't pay enough in tax 2019

Above are not government propaganda

If you expect a nation that is on 10% tax per gdp ratio, and a low GDP...to provide services that a nation of 45-50% tax per gdp does, then you don't know how much APC and its predecessors have failed this country.

Hold your government to account, instead of wasting time on this site. Yes, hold tinubu and the governors, but especially tinubu to account. Calling me names does not change that.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Wahabfuture: 2:46pm On Sep 25, 2025
GOATandYAMtheory:
Nigerians are funny people. They pay the least taxes and they are the most demanding. Lol!
This is lie, how are Nigerians the most demanding? no electricity or clean water, what are Nigerians benefiting from the Government? I await your response. stop supporting Government of looters
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Smartcitizen: 2:47pm On Sep 25, 2025
WizardOfNG:
What are they hiding exactly? If I show you ten videos explaining the tax reforms explicitly, you will still ask same comment on another thread later today, tomorrow and even December.

They should come and give you a presentation in your home regarding information that is everywhere and accessible ba?

By their post we shall know them and it is amusing some of you think you can use the flimsiest of excuses to pretend you care about Nigeria or her progress.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8HMUaI9_s?si=k668GuKDZvHzF7AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgtaQAmTBKg?si=8yazF5TgILdIjij3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MganE8JzPc4?si=frV9cwZ05O38JfkO
I hate propaganda, just go to any of your state FIRS office and tell them you want to invite them to a radio or TV show for more live phone calls program on the tax reform and see what they will tell you.

I'm not telling you what I'm not into , I'm telling you from a personal experience.

Just try this and prove me wrong if I'm telling lies.


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Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Jaga9ja: 2:47pm On Sep 25, 2025
Unproductive TAXES are punishment
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by judewrites: 2:49pm On Sep 25, 2025
Paying taxes that can't be accurately accounted is a punishment.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Exceed15: 2:49pm On Sep 25, 2025
So u people Nigerians see it as punishment because that's what is it .The proceed translate to nothing.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by nairalanda1(m): 2:53pm On Sep 25, 2025
Wahabfuture:
This is lie, how are Nigerians the most demanding? no electricity or clean water, what are Nigerians benefiting from the Government? I await your response. stop supporting Government of looters
LOL...the guy , despite probably being an APC supporter, is right.

Many of you want the things developed countries have, forgetting that many developed countries have tax to gdp of over 30% , some as high as 50%

Meanwhile we have a very low per capita GDP...even under GEJ, it was 2500 dollars . The big boys like Germany and denmark who give everything including electricity, and roads, and water to their people have gdp of 40000-50000 dollars., and they tax 30-50% of that.

Also, less than 40% of nigerians pay tax. It was as low as 16% in 2016, 30% in 2019. You may complain about the taxes you pay, but the average nigerian does not pay income tax. (PLus the revenue from levies and so forth can't fund much, even if it wasn't stolen self)

Nigeria has a tax to gdp of 10%, and 80% of our revenue comes from 1.8 million bpd of crude that is enough for a nation of 1million people, not 230 million nigerians. Even if we was really 100 million, it would still be paltry.

That's why we are chronically in debt.

And most subsaharan nations are like Nigeria. I'm serious.

If we want to have goodies...tax most nigerians, and long term...fight corruption, fight corruption, and then transition to an economy based on manufactured goods and services, and yes, if we must vote out APC to get there, so be it.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Solababa91(m): 2:53pm On Sep 25, 2025
You're quite right but the big question is who can challenge a Nigerian government, in saner climes, judicial institutions, law makers and enforcers would help put the government in check, but dues same apply in our beloved country?
WizardOfNG:
Good post and utterance from a progressive and well-meaning Nigerian. Very different to the post of the nuisances above yours.

Sure that is always a worry but we have never had a decent culture of proper collection of taxes from those who can and should pay it.

I feel we should begin from that point at least and then play our part challenging Government to spend what is collected judiciously.

What we have now is condemnable i.e a situation where tax collection is lax and virtually non-existent because Government is too focused on oil income to care about other legitimate avenues of raising money to use developing Nigeria. The principle of collecting tax efficiently is sacrosanct to all serious nations of the world.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Solababa91(m): 2:53pm On Sep 25, 2025
You're quite right but the big question is who can challenge a Nigerian government, in saner climes, judicial institutions, law makers and enforcers would help put the government in check, but does same apply in our beloved country?
WizardOfNG:
Good post and utterance from a progressive and well-meaning Nigerian. Very different to the post of the nuisances above yours.

Sure that is always a worry but we have never had a decent culture of proper collection of taxes from those who can and should pay it.

I feel we should begin from that point at least and then play our part challenging Government to spend what is collected judiciously.

What we have now is condemnable i.e a situation where tax collection is lax and virtually non-existent because Government is too focused on oil income to care about other legitimate avenues of raising money to use developing Nigeria. The principle of collecting tax efficiently is sacrosanct to all serious nations of the world.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by zoomman(m): 2:54pm On Sep 25, 2025
In a working Country, its not a Punishment but in Nigeria, it is beyond punishment, more like a nightmare.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by ezekins: 2:54pm On Sep 25, 2025
Let Nigerians continue to pay taxes so that you government officials will see enough money to embezzle?
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Wahabfuture: 2:55pm On Sep 25, 2025
WizardOfNG:
What are they hiding exactly? If I show you ten videos explaining the tax reforms explicitly, you will still ask same comment on another thread later today, tomorrow and even December.

They should come and give you a presentation in your home regarding information that is everywhere and accessible ba?

By their post we shall know them and it is amusing some of you think you can use the flimsiest of excuses to pretend you care about Nigeria or her progress.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8HMUaI9_s?si=k668GuKDZvHzF7AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgtaQAmTBKg?si=8yazF5TgILdIjij3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MganE8JzPc4?si=frV9cwZ05O38JfkO
I don't think Nigerians are scared to pay taxes, problem is that it will be looted, even a 10 years old Nigeria kid know this
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by SarkinYarki: 2:57pm On Sep 25, 2025
See funny man 😂😂😂😂😂 we should be happy watching politicians waste of sweat ko?
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by WizardOfNG: 2:58pm On Sep 25, 2025
PeterObi4Presid:
But we should see corruption as what
Tax this tax that
All our money going down the gullet of politicians
How many Nigerians pay tax willingly and happily to the extent your sort are now all shouting the above? What money do you pay that is going down the gullet of politicians? We can agree many politicians steal allocation, inflate contracts etal but never you come here pretending to be a tax payer.

Aside civil Servant, with tax deducted automatically from their wages, majority of Nigerians are tax Dodgers by nature.

It says a lot about the propensity of scamming typifying the character of Nigerians that many of you are now coming to shout "they will embezzle our tax payment" and "our taxes built Lagos" and such nonsense. What a joke.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Princedapace(m): 2:58pm On Sep 25, 2025
WizardOfNG:
Good post and utterance from a progressive and well-meaning Nigerian. Very different to the post of the nuisances above yours.

Sure that is always a worry but we have never had a decent culture of proper collection of taxes from those who can and should pay it.

I feel we should begin from that point at least and then play our part challenging Government to spend what is collected judiciously.

What we have now is condemnable i.e a situation where tax collection is lax and virtually non-existent because Government is too focused on oil income to care about other legitimate avenues of raising money to use developing Nigeria. The principle of collecting tax efficiently is sacrosanct to all serious nations of the world.


A resource rich Nigeria has no business taxing citizens up to 25 percent of their income in a poverty capital of the world. That person u want to tax 25 percent of his income most likely has parents, siblings and friends who are poor and constantly depend n him of survival. That same person u want to tax 25 percent has fuel to buy for generator to generate electricity or install expensive solar, he has water to dig to generate water to use, he has to buy expensive water botttle to drink, he has expensive health care to care for for him self and those who rely on him. He has wack education to deal with or pay through the nose to get quality education. Nigeria has resource, money, fund generated from VAT alone is huge. The problem Nigeria has is corruption and tribalism based system.
With tribalism based system, no body will be able to challenging the politicians because everything is seen in the eyes of tribalism. Protest wont work.
Fuel subsizy was removed, allow Nigerians see the benefit of that, provide Nigerians with stable electricity, ensure free and fair election, decentralize the country so states can compete well, then introduce this type of tax, Nigerians will gladly pay.
For now, all money goes into funding the lifestyle of politicians, their families and side chicks. Pls, we wont pay. Just 4 years of service, politicians are taken care of for life. WTF!
If u dont blokc corruption, tax money will waste.
We have a very useless country where tribalism has finished us. As for me, I wont. I will use every legal means to stay awy from this until Nigeria starts fixing core issues I listed above. If I cant find my way around it, I leave the country and pay tax to a country that works well.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by nairalanda1(m): 2:59pm On Sep 25, 2025
Solababa91:
You're quite right but the big question is who can challenge a Nigerian government, in saner climes, judicial institutions, law makers and enforcers would help put the government in check, but dues same apply in our beloved country?
We got to start from somewhere

The same conditons applied in many developed countries ages ago, and they changed because people were willing to do the hard work.

Most of us here no wan do hard work, and most of us are supporting sides, because we want to chop....
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by GOATandYAMtheory: 3:00pm On Sep 25, 2025
Wahabfuture:
This is lie, how are Nigerians the most demanding? no electricity or clean water, what are Nigerians benefiting from the Government? I await your response. stop supporting Government of looters
okay
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Basicend: 3:00pm On Sep 25, 2025
Kindly swap your position with average struggling Nigerian, and come and spew this your grammer in 2 weeks' time.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by ambale(m): 3:01pm On Sep 25, 2025
WizardOfNG:
Good post and utterance from a progressive and well-meaning Nigerian. Very different to the post of the nuisances above yours.

Sure that is always a worry but we have never had a decent culture of proper collection of taxes from those who can and should pay it.

I feel we should begin from that point at least and then play our part challenging Government to spend what is collected judiciously.

What we have now is condemnable i.e a situation where tax collection is lax and virtually non-existent because Government is too focused on oil income to care about other legitimate avenues of raising money to use developing Nigeria. The principle of collecting tax efficiently is sacrosanct to all serious nations of the world.
Let's first talk about corruption of government and his workers

Those who are paying now are they managing that one??

And why are their staffs aiding others that are not paying or paying what's due??

This is not rocket science, a government that have a penchant for unaccountability can never and will never be trusted with peoples taxes
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Middleborn: 3:02pm On Sep 25, 2025
So we have corrupt politicians who are fantastically corrupt in political offices....They have shown us over the years that they can steal with impunity. The masses don't have anything to show for the resources that they own. There's nothing to show for the removal of subsidy. The president himself if very corrupt, his cabinet members are corrupt, the opposition party members are corrupt...the government offices will steal with every opportunity they get. Every government official has a price, they can be bought and APC wants Nigerians to believe the money that will be taxed will not be stolen, but will be used for Nigerians.

I think that whoever brings these ideas is both wicked and stupid. Nigeria is one of the poverty capitals of the world, for crying out loud. Before you tax them, you have to make sure that you solve power (electricity), create Jobs, raise the minimum wage, bridge inequality and redistribute wealth, improve the criminal justice system and make policies that encourage successful re-entry.

Why do they need taxes when we get so much from the oil? Maybe they want all the oil money for themselves.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Wahabfuture: 3:03pm On Sep 25, 2025
nairalanda1:
LOL...the guy , despite probably being an APC supporter, is right.

Many of you want the things developed countries have, forgetting that many developed countries have tax to gdp of over 30% , some as high as 50%

Meanwhile we have a very low per capita GDP...even under GEJ, it was 2500 dollars . The big boys like Germany and denmark who give everything including electricity, and roads, and water to their people have gdp of 40000-50000 dollars., and they tax 30-50% of that.

Also, less than 40% of nigerians pay tax. It was as low as 16% in 2016, 30% in 2019. You may complain about the taxes you pay, but the average nigerian does not pay income tax. (PLus the revenue from levies and so forth can't fund much, even if it wasn't stolen self)

Nigeria has a tax to gdp of 10%, and 80% of our revenue comes from 1.8 million bpd of crude that is enough for a nation of 1million people, not 230 million nigerians. Even if we was really 100 million, it would still be paltry.

That's why we are chronically in debt.

And most subsaharan nations are like Nigeria. I'm serious.

If we want to have goodies...tax most nigerians, and long term...fight corruption, fight corruption, and then transition to an economy based on manufactured goods and services, and yes, if we must vote out APC to get there, so be it.
Arguing over this issue is a waste of energy and time for me, why are you talking as if you don't know the money will be looted? I don't live in Nigeria and i pay taxes in the Country where i live, and I also enjoy the benefit of paying taxes. Insecurity all over Nigeria, no stable power or clean water.   you still want to tax the poor masses when you know it will be looted.  people are being killed in dozens everyday, security forces are not spared and nobody give a damn, all the Government cares is borrowing and tax to loot
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by Love800(m): 3:03pm On Sep 25, 2025
Okay. Let me agree with you for once. You know how to reason very logically. Kudos.

I can say we pay little taxes, even if i know quite well dat we pay taxes though.

But is it our fault?
Is it not what we have dat we are going to give!
Our government made us to be unproductive.
nairalanda1:
LOL...the guy , despite probably being an APC supporter, is right.

Many of you want the things developed countries have, forgetting that many developed countries have tax to gdp of over 30% , some as high as 50%

Meanwhile we have a very low per capita GDP...even under GEJ, it was 2500 dollars . The big boys like Germany and denmark who give everything including electricity, and roads, and water to their people have gdp of 40000-50000 dollars., and they tax 30-50% of that.

Also, less than 40% of nigerians pay tax. It was as low as 16% in 2016, 30% in 2019. You may complain about the taxes you pay, but the average nigerian does not pay income tax. (PLus the revenue from levies and so forth can't fund much, even if it wasn't stolen self)

Nigeria has a tax to gdp of 10%, and 80% of our revenue comes from 1.8 million bpd of crude that is enough for a nation of 1million people, not 230 million nigerians. Even if we was really 100 million, it would still be paltry.

That's why we are chronically in debt.

And most subsaharan nations are like Nigeria. I'm serious.

If we want to have goodies...tax most nigerians, and long term...fight corruption, fight corruption, and then transition to an economy based on manufactured goods and services, and yes, if we must vote out APC to get there, so be it.
Re: Don’t See Taxes As Punishment, FIRS Boss Tells Nigerians by ambale(m): 3:03pm On Sep 25, 2025
Had an encounter with some state tax operators last year, when I sat them down and told them my plight and why I don't ever think the government deserves my tax, they were nearly on their knees begging me.

It's never about payment but it's about what you guys do with our taxes
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