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Dear Pastor Chris, it is wrong to say that Jesus didn’t commit His mother’s care to Peter because he was poor! You suggested Peter was poor because he said, ‘ Silver and Gold I don’t have…’ .

You can preach ur prosperity gospel without ridiculing an Apostle that took over from Christ! A man that was crucified upside down for the gospel! Haba! This is not right.

Matthew 16:18
18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Dae Jumong 21/9/25

That's my problem with prosperity preachers, a lot of imbalance has made believers dislike the prosperity message even when it's evident it's needed in our time.

There are people who may not want to acquire earthly possessions while doing the work of God. The Apostles of old relied on the pooling of resources of brethren to enable them propagate the gospel which was okay for that dispensation. Peter was a fisherman who most likely gave up fishing fish to fish men as Jesus commanded him to.

In this our dispensation, because of our world is, wealth transfer is needed to be able to really propagate the gospel and enable believers serve God without worrying about tea and bread everyday and so many things.

We can preach this without rubbishing the legacy of our God's generals because they decided not to acquire material things.

Yes Peter consciously ignores worldly wealth, having being schooled by the Lord. He later said, "Love not the world neither the things that are in the world...'. Those preachers should be bold enough to tell us that some new testament teachings in the bible are errors so that followers can be conscious of what direction they are heading together with their leader. This how i know if you are preaching the truth: is there any scripture in the Bible that I just don't imagine you preach with all your veins the way you preach other sermons? Oyakhilome is so endowed with the gift of revelational knowledge of God's word and a rare healing gifts and miracles. Whenever i hear wrong things from him, i just laugh and say 'baba, too much rev'. We must not, however think that if we were to be that blessed with gifts like that, we would teach sounder doctrines thatln he does. You have never being in that situation, so shhhh! While we know right and wrong we must be moderate in our comments. Some are only concerned about the money they would make on youtube by posting videos on topics like this one. Some would that opportunity to useless Jesus Christ. Be mindful who you're sharing minds with. 'Tell it not in the street of Askelon lest the uncumcise hear and rejoice. Paul also, being endowed with so much revelational knowledege could have been making this kinds of mistake if the Lord did not leave him with the thorn in his flesh, of which Paul says, ' lest I become puffed up with abundance of revelation. Perhaps pastor Christ needs some more thorns in the flesh or his time to go home is very near. The bad thing is, Oyakhilome is not like baba Kumuyi ( i am not a deeper life member) who, when when he realizes he's wrong would come back to tell the world he was wrong. I respected him more when i heard that. Those are men who have so focused on the Lord to the extent that they forgt themselves. Rather, Pastor Chris would just continue to squeeze things through, that is if he even accepts he can make mistakes with his teachings. Peter says we are not redeemed with corruptible things like silver and gold. He also says we are not redeemed with corruptible things like silver and gold but by the precious blood of Jesus. Should we ignore those scripture and say he preached those things because he was poor. Peter has tasted things that far surpassed any world treasure so he dragged those things on the floor in the face of the glory that he has seen in the face of Jesus. I had wonder why he always preached to make us see that worldly us rubbish as compared to the riches that us in Christ Jesus. That man has seen something that alot of us hasn't seen. Let me close by saying Christ knew John in few days later was going to be disconnected from whatever riches he had and become a full time apostle. Do you know Peter with his position in the church as the only one Christ could trust the leadership of the church to, had access to a lot of money. Even if he was poor then, Christ knee he would soon put him in an office where he would gave access and control to alot of money. So I do not believe what pastor Chris preached is true, if he truly says what people say in this forum. Even Paul says he later went to meet Peter to ne sure what he had not run in vain. Why? Paul had his own revelations a day christ taught him some things in person in visions, not by meditating as alot of us do. Yes Paul also meditated a got revelation through that. Nevertheless, he was humble to the other minster amd acknowledge well that they were the ones who walked, sleep laugh and dine with Jesus in person. Why is this humility amongst minsters these days. I see it in some though. I was so glad when oyedepo referred a person to kumuyi for someone's healing. If we are proud against other minsters and denominations, now stepping up to being proud against those who God used to write the Bible. One thing I know: followers and people may be quiet but all know the truth. Ministered ought to submit to one another out of reverence for Christ! Christ in John 17 prays intensely for all to be united. We may have different doctrines but once we gave the major things about Christianity in common we should walk with one another, just because of the prayet of Christ in John 17. Biblical Apostle are too high matters to downgrade. We should honor other minister's and other believers from other churches as long as they beive christ died, He rose, He is the only way to God, evangelism is God's heartbeat, and they belive our character , holiness, purity. humilty, love, as christians should reflect that we have been with Jesus. Other diffetencez shouldn't be a reason to spiritually look down on others believers, honestly. I hope we know what apostasy means. Okay when people rise up and claim God has given them enough revelational that deeper than that written in the bible, then we lose compass or reference to write and wrong as per the gospel. That means anyone can come and introduce whatever he wants.

Pastor Christ just like many of these so called prosperity preachers are used to preaching heresies, the mode of operation now is to condem the apostles of Christ and their teachings. Judgment day shall be very hot.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses can help you people, go now and ask for help before it's too late!

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses can help you people, go now and ask for help before it's too late!

Jehovah witness is no better.

Steep:
Jehovah witness is no better.

Stop deceiving yourself:

APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!

Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..

XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.

freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.

boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses can help you people, go now and ask for help before it's too late!

Antichrist religion like Jehovah Witness has only one thing to offer: false teachings that lures people to hell. Jehovah Witness is the most dangerous religion in the world. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

Marvyx:
That's my problem with prosperity preachers, a lot of imbalance has made believers dislike the prosperity message even when it's evident it's needed in our time.

There are people who may not want to acquire earthly possessions while doing the work of God. The Apostles of old relied on the pooling of resources of brethren to enable them propagate the gospel which was okay for that dispensation. Peter was a fisherman who most likely gave up fishing fish to fish men as Jesus commanded him to.

In this our dispensation, because of our world is, wealth transfer is needed to be able to really propagate the gospel and enable believers serve God without worrying about tea and bread everyday and so many things.

We can preach this without rubbishing the legacy of our God's generals because they decided not to acquire material things.

So you're saying that a pastor must be rich today to preach the gospel? What about the contributions made by church members today, what is it used for?

ziinee:
Yes Peter consciously ignores worldly wealth, having being schooled by the Lord. He later said, "Love not the world neither the things that are in the world...'. Those preachers should be bold enough to tell us that some new testament teachings in the bible are errors so that followers can be conscious of what direction they are heading together with their leader. This how i know if you are preaching the truth: is there any scripture in the Bible that I just don't imagine you preach with all your veins the way you preach other sermons? Oyakhilome is so endowed with the gift of revelational knowledge of God's word and a rare healing gifts and miracles. Whenever i hear wrong things from him, i just laugh and say 'baba, too much rev'. We must not, however think that if we were to be that blessed with gifts like that, we would teach sounder doctrines thatln he does. You have never being in that situation, so shhhh! While we know right and wrong we must be moderate in our comments. Some are only concerned about the money they would make on youtube by posting videos on topics like this one. Some would that opportunity to useless Jesus Christ. Be mindful who you're sharing minds with. 'Tell it not in the street of Askelon lest the uncumcise hear and rejoice. Paul also, being endowed with so much revelational knowledege could have been making this kinds of mistake if the Lord did not leave him with the thorn in his flesh, of which Paul says, ' lest I become puffed up with abundance of revelation. Perhaps pastor Christ needs some more thorns in the flesh or his time to go home is very near. The bad thing is, Oyakhilome is not like baba Kumuyi ( i am not a deeper life member) who, when when he realizes he's wrong would come back to tell the world he was wrong. I respected him more when i heard that. Those are men who have so focused on the Lord to the extent that they forgt themselves. Rather, Pastor Chris would just continue to squeeze things through, that is if he even accepts he can make mistakes with his teachings. Peter says we are not redeemed with corruptible things like silver and gold. He also says we are not redeemed with corruptible things like silver and gold but by the precious blood of Jesus. Should we ignore those scripture and say he preached those things because he was poor. Peter has tasted things that far surpassed any world treasure so he dragged those things on the floor in the face of the glory that he has seen in the face of Jesus. I had wonder why he always preached to make us see that worldly us rubbish as compared to the riches that us in Christ Jesus. That man has seen something that alot of us hasn't seen. Let me close by saying Christ knew John in few days later was going to be disconnected from whatever riches he had and become a full time apostle. Do you know Peter with his position in the church as the only one Christ could trust the leadership of the church to, had access to a lot of money. Even if he was poor then, Christ knee he would soon put him in an office where he would gave access and control to alot of money. So I do not believe what pastor Chris preached is true, if he truly says what people say in this forum. Even Paul says he later went to meet Peter to ne sure what he had not run in vain. Why? Paul had his own revelations a day christ taught him some things in person in visions, not by meditating as alot of us do. Yes Paul also meditated a got revelation through that. Nevertheless, he was humble to the other minster amd acknowledge well that they were the ones who walked, sleep laugh and dine with Jesus in person. Why is this humility amongst minsters these days. I see it in some though. I was so glad when oyedepo referred a person to kumuyi for someone's healing. If we are proud against other minsters and denominations, now stepping up to being proud against those who God used to write the Bible. One thing I know: followers and people may be quiet but all know the truth. Ministered ought to submit to one another out of reverence for Christ! Christ in John 17 prays intensely for all to be united. We may have different doctrines but once we gave the major things about Christianity in common we should walk with one another, just because of the prayet of Christ in John 17. Biblical Apostle are too high matters to downgrade. We should honor other minister's and other believers from other churches as long as they beive christ died, He rose, He is the only way to God, evangelism is God's heartbeat, and they belive our character , holiness, purity. humilty, love, as christians should reflect that we have been with Jesus. Other diffetencez shouldn't be a reason to spiritually look down on others believers, honestly. I hope we know what apostasy means. Okay when people rise up and claim God has given them enough revelational that deeper than that written in the bible, then we lose compass or reference to write and wrong as per the gospel. That means anyone can come and introduce whatever he wants.

Lol....so pastor Chris have too much revelation from God and that is why he has made this error...but the person correcting him is looking for YouTube money?

So both pastor Chris and Kumuyi are both teaching the truth in contradictions?

Any church that believes in Jesus birth death and resurrection is a true church no matter what they teach including Odumeje's church and Jeremiah's fufuyin church?

Ken4Christ:
Antichrist religion like Jehovah Witness has only one thing to offer: false teachings that lures people to hell. Jehovah Witness is the most dangerous religion in the world. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light.

The only religion with the way out of the falsehood that has blinded all of you for so long. Even though you want to scam your fellow man in the name of religion yet you don't have the fear of God to speak evil of what is good! Isaiah 35:8

God's holy spirit has worked out what if fine in a world that's filled with hatred, violence and brutality and the only group that has solved this problem in their midst {Isaiah 2:4} you dare raise your mouth to speak against!😟


“So I tell you, people can be forgiven for every sinful thing they do and for every bad thing they say against God. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.You can even speak against the Son of Man and be forgiven. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven—not now or in the future." Matthew 12:31-32 ERV Bible

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that a pastor must be rich today to preach the gospel? What about the contributions made by church members today, what is it used for?

The problem is that you guys think all Pastors just eat the church's money lol. That's a myopic view.

Pastors alone aren't saddled with the task of preaching the gospel, what about missionaries, evangelists and other charity works the church do? Are they going to do it with paper? That's why believers give.

Most churches carry out these and you may not know but of course, all eyes on the pastor because he's normally the set man over the church and in result the church takes care of him.

Marvyx:
The problem is that you guys think all Pastors just eat the church's money lol. That's a myopic view.

Pastors alone aren't saddled with the task of preaching the gospel, what about missionaries, evangelists and other charity works the church do? Are they going to do it with paper? That's why believers give.

Most churches carry out these and you may not know but of course, all eyes on the pastor because he's normally the set man over the church and in result the church takes care of him.

So you're saying that a pastor does not need to be rich to preach the gospel in today's dispensation?

MaxInDHouse:
The only religion with the way out of the falsehood that has blinded all of you for so long. Even though you want to scam your fellow man in the name of religion yet you don't have the fear of God to speak evil of what is good! Isaiah 35:8

God's holy spirit has worked out what if fine in a world that's filled with hatred, violence and brutality and the only group that has solved this problem in their midst {Isaiah 2:4} you dare raise your mouth to speak against!😟


“So I tell you, people can be forgiven for every sinful thing they do and for every bad thing they say against God. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.You can even speak against the Son of Man and be forgiven. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven—not now or in the future." Matthew 12:31-32 ERV Bible

You can't find God through religion. There is no religion that leads to God.

True Christianity is not a religion. It's a relationship. It is the revelation of the fatherhood of God.

Ken4Christ:
You can't find God through religion. There is no religion that leads to God.
True Christianity is not a religion. It's a relationship. It is the revelation of the fatherhood of God.

So why do you condemn some religion if there is no true religion?

It really saddens me when Pastor Chris made that Statment, it's a deep low.
I mean, if Christians were truly United, if Pastors truly love that truth be spread, everyone should be up correcting Pastor Chris. How dare him reduce the richness and glory of gospel to material acquisition. Haba now. That's really sad. And I'm so happy with Kesiena no matter how he expressed his disapproval, he's justified, because you can see Pastor Chris up till now never realise he's wrong. So how else should a minister of his calibre be made known of the error of his preaching if not by publicly lambasting him for also publicly preaching error and still willfully proud about his riches ..
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Nigerian churches and their unquestionable celebrity pastors is something else.

Ken4Christ:
You can't find God through religion. There is no religion that leads to God.

True Christianity is not a religion. It's a relationship. It is the revelation of the fatherhood of God.

What is the meaning of the word "Religion"?

MaxInDHouse:
So why do you condemn some religion if there is no true religion?

I never said that there is no true religion. I said you can't find God through religion. Christianity is its true sense is not a religion but people made different religion out of it.

Ken4Christ:
I never said that there is no true religion. I said you can't find God through religion. Christianity is its true sense is not a religion but people made different religion out of it.

You are still going round in circles!

Can a Catholic or Celestial or Cherubim and Seraphim or Jehovah's Witnesses be a Christian?

YES or NO!

MaxInDHouse:
You are still going round in circles!

Can a Catholic or Celestial or Cherubim and Seraphim or Jehovah's Witnesses be a Christian?

YES or NO!

Anyone can be a Christian, even a juju priest.

Just follow the instructions in Romans 10:9-10.

It's that simple.

Ken4Christ:
Anyone can be a Christian, even a juju priest.
Just follow the instructions in Romans 10:9-10.
It's that simple.

So is there any need for these people to gather for a pastor to teach them?

MaxInDHouse:
So is there any need for these people to gather for a pastor to teach them?

There is the need to gather because the Bible recognises the church institution and even say those who forsake the assembly of the saints together are committing sin

Ken4Christ:
There is the need to gather because the Bible recognises the church institution and even say those who forsake the assembly of the saints together are committing sin

So if they gather the pastor teachings doesn't matter?

MaxInDHouse:
So if they gather the pastor teachings doesn't matter?

Of course it matters. This is why its important you identify with a Christ believing church.

Ken4Christ:
Of course it matters. This is why its important you identify with a Christ believing church.

So there are fake churches/religions.
Right?

MaxInDHouse:
So there are fake churches/religions.
Right?

It's an understatement. Our Lord Jesus said that there shall be false prophets. And these false prophets also have churches. Well, a good example is your organisation, Jehovah Witness. I have proven it to you repeatedly. Please, leave them and embrace truth.

Ken4Christ:
It's an understatement. Our Lord Jesus said that there shall be false prophets. And these false prophets also have churches. Well, a good example is your organisation, Jehovah Witness. I have proven it to you repeatedly. Please, leave them and embrace truth.

Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only true Christian organization throughout the world that is why you can't mention the name of your own church so that we may not compare what your church does besides Jehovah's Witnesses! John 3:19-21

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses is the one and only true Christian organization throughout the world that is why you can't mention the name of your own church so that we may not compare what your church does besides Jehovah's Witnesses! John 3:19-21

You know you are false. Just that you refuse to acknowledge it. But if you don't repent, you will perish.

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that a pastor does not need to be rich to preach the gospel in today's dispensation?

Depends on your definition of rich. I'll instead say a pastor has to have enough resources to be able to preach to a wider reach of people.

Ken4Christ:
You know you are false. Just that you refuse to acknowledge it. But if you don't repent, you will perish.

Continue deceiving yourself!

Marvyx:
Depends on your definition of rich. I'll instead say a pastor has to have enough resources to be able to preach to a wider reach of people.

So where and how would this resources come from?