₦airaland Forum

Zionmdde:
Dangote, it's time to start dancing the dance

Even though the news is not correct and it's not possible to shut dangote down as pengasson does not have that power

But they will soon play drums for dangote. You wake up and sent people home without caring how you not only damage their lives but that of all their dependents

Oga go and open ur own shop and employ Dem na

Dangote is a monopolists.

And it's not going to work with the oil and gas. This is not cement oooooh

Emusan:
I guess you couldn't refute my post you have to come up with question.

Both pay.

because the company is there to make progress through the staff while the association is there to protect the staff welfarism and professionalism.

Should we be clamoring for the disbandment of all ASSOCIATION in the country just as some people are doing for PENGASSAN now?

Bros do not mind those evil peeps. They want unionism to be eradicated for workers to suffer in the hands of greedy employers.

If Nigeria truly has a Government in place, it's high time they came hard on these unions by having them outrightly proscribed.

We cannot afford to have unions that subject hapless Nigerians to unending hardship while sabotaging the economy.

They've practically personalized our common patrimony for selfish reasons.

If it were a military regime, all the so-called union leaders would have been summarily roundedup and sent to correction centres.

What effrontery!



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davodyguy:
He has monopoly in Cement industry. He must not be allowed to do same with PMS. This man will kill competition and cry foul.

If you don't know him, you'll pity him.

Cement is ₦10,000 FGS

He should bring 👇

Stop phewing lies ............BUA no dey sell cement too

FOLYKAZE:
This is becoming messy.

Dangote should tread carefully. These guys are ready to fight dirty than stay out of business.

We just need to grow out of this Aluta, scatter everywhere mentally, if things doesn't work out way. Government should please disband NUPENG and their sister union PENGASSAN. You cannot just force private business hands to do what and whatever in their business. If you want to dictate, start up your own refinery, then you can control your staff remotely how you want. This madness has to just stop

If you have worked in Dangote refinery you won't say all these. Those who have worked there won't support you in whatever way. Union can be a bad thing but unionism is also good to checkmate some things. It has both positive and negative effects. Dangote is taken advantage of Nigerian workers there and he is undermining them. We need strong unions in private sectors. Look at how Asians enslave Nigerians in many part of the country, people working under bad conditions with poor salary. If we have strong union some of those things won't happen. you see people being hired and fired without salary these are some of the wicked things you see in the private sector.

ceejay80s:
Oga go and open ur own shop and employ Dem na

Go and rest. Why do teachers join NUT? Why do medical doctors join NMA? Why ASUU and others?

Dhury:
when drivers and okada riders is crying in the hands of pharaoh aka union leaders no body Care, now is get to company level, soon general public will feel the heat.union operate as a terrorists, they claim to be fighting members welfare but non of their members that is benefiting after several illegals heavy taxations . Union in Nigeria is a definitions of monkey dey work baboon de chop

Exactly! The double standard in this country is too alarming.

The question is, can someone open a big Hospital or law firm without dealing with NMA or NBA?

If this isn't possible, how then can Dangote operate his refinery without the body in charge of it?

PUNANI01:
Very good move. Waiting to see the next move by Dangote .

Dangote has already responded ..he will be selling fuel in dollars to marketers
...the price of fuel wud soon skyrocket

ogascomax:
If you have worked in Dangote refinery you won't say all these. Those who have worked there you support you in whatever way. Union can be a bad thing but unionism is also good to checkmate some things. It has both positive and negative effects. Dangote is taken advantage of Nigeria workers there and he is undermining them. We need strong unions in private sectors. Look at our Asians enslave Nigerians in many part of the country, people working under bad conditions with poor salary. If we have strong union some of those things won't happen. you see people being hired and fired without salary these are some of the wicked things you see in the private sector.

Bros do not mind those mindless Nigerians who support the exploitation of workers. Who do they think will speak for the workers?

Thank GOD Almighty say NUPENG and PENGASAN no send them.

Emusan:
Yet you people will be claiming to be educated.

So, I can wake up one day open a big Hospital and started receiving patients without having my Hospital workers to be part of Medical Association of Nigeria (MAN) or a random person can just wake up and open a law firm without being part of NBA.

This double standard is what will continue to hurt the growth of this Nation.

Being a part of an association is not the same as a Union.

GEJDHERO:
Dangote has already responded ..he will be selling fuel in dollars to marketers
...the price of fuel wud soon skyrocket

Let him sell it in Euro.
Is it the concern of the unions?

What do you know PENGASAN and NUPENG are fighting Dangote for?

davodyguy:
He has monopoly in Cement industry. He must not be allowed to do same with PMS. This man will kill competition and cry foul.

If you don't know him, you'll pity him.

Cement is ₦10,000 FGS

He should bring 👇

He will simply import his crude and you will have to buy at a higher cost,now who is loosing?

2mch:
Being a part of an association is not the same as a Union.

So what is the full meaning of PENGASSAN?

Seefinish:
Dangote is going to buy crude oil from outside Nigeria in dollars, refine it and sell to Nigerians in dollars and the mumu people fighting him will queue up to buy from him. Who is losing?

What do you know that PENGASAN and NUPENG are fighting Dangote for?

Telltruth123:
With all these dramas how will Nigerians convince foreigners to invest in Nigeria?

I wonder oo....cabals wud run them down

Lithiumite:
He will simply import his crude and you will have to buy at a higher cost,now who is loosing?

If your children or younger ones ask you what PENGASAN and NUPENG are fighting Dangote for, what will you tell them?

Zionmdde:
Dangote, it's time to start dancing the dance

Even though the news is not correct and it's not possible to shut dangote down as pengasson does not have that power

But they will soon play drums for dangote. You wake up and sent people home without caring how you not only damage their lives but that of all their dependents

Nairaland moderators, please, can I make contributions here? I need to ask before my submission is deleted and my account suspended.

Who owns the CRUDE OIL and Gas being supplied to DANGOTE Refineries? Is it being supplied free of charge? Are the products from the Refineries of any benefits to Nigerians and to the Country foreign reserves? We are having heavy rainfall this year, for over 30 years, Apapa to Oshodi Expressway suffered terrible bad and terribly damaged roads and almost impassable road during the yearly raining season with potholes at many points with Federal Government through Julius Berger spending billions of Naira on repairs and reconstruction yearly without any solution until DANGOTE used Tax Credit to do Reconstruction using CONCRETE through HITECH (Chagoury) some years ago and this put an end to almost three decades of chaos on that Road.

DANGOTE is singlehandedly driving the economy of Nigeria and ECOWAS.

PENGASSAN benefited from corruption at NNPC. NNPC is just a name the people there are PENGASSAN and NUPENG members. Refineries are not working. PPMC was a corrupt pipelines subsidiary where refined products are stolen before it gets to depots by people who have Informants at Refineries and PPMC .

DANGOTE took loans to build Refineries and has to pay back.

yang:
How can a Union hold the whole country to hostage

Until the government starts to lock people up for economic sabotage people will not have sense

People are suffering no light no water no fuel to pump water and what does pengassan do, they to stop people from sleeping at night

Why? So they can keep their cushy jobs and be bribed every day to let fuel flow

Where was pengassan when Dangote was building refinery for 20bn USD

People have suffered enough

The government needs to start locking people up for economic sabotage this is totally unacceptable

These actions can trigger massive job losses, exchange rate depreciation and GDP loss

Again no Union should hold the whole country to hostage it is pure evil

People are suffering too much

You don't know what you are talking. Most of you are just being ignorant. You won't say this same thing if you have worked in this Dangote refinery or some of these oil and gas sector.
There is no where in the world that you don't have workers Union. Without Union the owner of companies will suppress their workers and they won't have a say. Government can do same and they won't have a say. If not because of union do you think the Nigeria government will wake up one day and increase workers salary. Same with these private industries.

Nagode Allah

Telltruth123:
With all these dramas how will Nigerians convince foreigners to invest in Nigeria?

Trade unions are everywhere in the world bros. Over 96% of companies in the oil and gas sector have PENGASAN and NUPENG. Why won't there be a union that does negotiations on behalf of work in Dangote refinery? Tell us why.

Some people could be myopic and destructive sha.. What manner of sabotage is this?

FarahAideed:
See forget all this worker talk , this is all about the control of Nigerian downstream, in recent history the downstream is always controlled by who ever is President . Under Jonathan it was controlled using Diezani and her boys Kola Aluko, Igho Sanomi , Benedict Peters and. Co .. Under Buhari it was run by Rano Oil on his behalf , now its the turn of Tinubu boys and suddenly Dangote refinery is in place and it has the capacity to end importations ...these cabals have done everything possible to frustrate the running of that refinery:

First they :

1.NNPC refused to give approval from the refinery to commence work

2 they now claimed NNPC didn't have crude to give Dangote

3. They claimed Dangote fuel was high in Sulphur to discourage Nigerian.

When all these failed they started using compromised union members in the following ways

4: NUPENG secretly barred their trucks from going to there to lift fuel so Dangote had a glut so much Dangote had to partner with MRS to help them out before AP joined the train.

To counter them Dangote had to close eyes and spend 250 million dollars to buy his own trucks , immediately he did that a group called Dappman came and said for those trucks to supply stations Dangotes has to pay them 1.5 trillion Naira annually , we were still on that and then Pengassan was mobilized to force Dangote workers to join them all in a bid to have control ,Dangote fought and then agreed that workers that want to join can join .

The refinery Catalytic unit was sabotaged and is currently down , everyone in that unit was fired over it and then finally like we have long expected Pengassan has ordered it's members to turn off the gas , meaning Dangote can't produce for now ...Meanwhile the govt at same time has refused to honor the Naira for crude deal ..


See this whole thing is war for control

So that's what PENGASAN and NUPENG do in Chevron, Shell, TotalFinaElf, Seplat, Indorama, Halliburton, Sclumberger, Baker Huges, etc?

So the unions do not want Dangote to work, but they want the companies I mentioned above to function abi?

Stop disgracing yourself here.

DeLaRue:
Too many unions for an economy that has aspirations to transform to a modern economy.

We are in 2025 for goodness sake, not 2005.

I just read in that write up about another union called NGIC which PENGASSAN has ordered to prevent supply of gas or something.

Which one is NGIC again

The Federal government and the National Assembly have to revisit tge laws on unions, and reduce their powers.

I keep saying this some of you are just being ignorant about unionism. You will even suffer more without Union especially workers. Because government and owners of industries will poorly pay their staffs. Since you are not in an institution that relies on union then you can say all this.

DANGOTE SHOULD IMPORT CRUDE OIL FROM USA

It for tat.
Do me I do you.

Elusive001:
If your children or younger ones ask you what PENGASAN and NUPENG are fighting Dangote for, what will you tell them?

They are selfish, despicably entitled people fighting for themselves.

Elusive001:
Go and rest. Why do teachers join NUT? Why do medical doctors join NMA? Why ASUU and others?

Not private schools, not private hospitals,
Only government owned, u can't determine how much private universities collect or go join ur public uni jeje

Image123:
Don't you guys think ahead? Don't you see that it's still poor people that will suffer this more? Dangote will simply increase importing crude which will likely lead to increase in price of petrol. SMH

First dangote will lose billions
He has already sacked the poor man. So other poor men will come fighting

Then when pengassan takes the matter to UN, he won't even get the crude supply sef. Because his business become known as modern slavery
Go and read ILO conventions well

xtivin:
He who has the power to hire has the right to fire…

Same as asking me who has the right to born and whom had the right to kee

Elusive001:
Trade unions are everywhere in the world bros. Over 96% of companies in the oil and gas sector have PENGASAN and NUPENG. Why won't there be a union that does negotiations on behalf of work in Dangote refinery? Tell us why.

Worldwide, employment is based on terms. It is not by force. China and Singapore were developing countries few decades ago. There were rules that censored all acts of economic sabotage even up to Religions which they considered act of economic sabotage which carried severe punishment even capital punishment.

PENGASSAN run and ruined Refineries and Pipelines and grounded Refineries and Depots.

DANGOTE took loans to build Refineries and has to pay back.

What PENGASSAN and NUPENG are doing are acts of Economic Sabotage against Nigeria and they have started Psychological Warfare against the Government of Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

OBASANJO fought them to sell Refineries but Yaradua came and failed Nigeria thinking he was doing OBASANJO.