₦airaland Forum

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I really don't know how we got this low, as a country.

It is even how they think that a Union will affect the price of petrol? What has a Union got to do with Dangote, selling at 865?

People are simply asking him to follow what the Constitution says about protecting the right of worker, but only reading through this thread sef dey shame me.[/color]

When the union stage unnecessary strike or demand exorbitant wages, the pump price will remain the same?

lionshare:
Protecting who, exactly? If Dangote decides to shut down the refinery, would the unions even have a say? Both sides should find a way to accommodate each other, but let’s be honest—Dangote holds both the knife and the cake in this situation.

[color=royalblue]Your comment reeks of serious, gross ignorance

The Nigerian labour law compels him to have a Union. You think PENGASSAN woke up and picked on him?

All Oil companies in Nigeria have a Union for its staff. It's a Labour law in Nigeria. PENGASSAN did not write the law. Nigeria did.

So he either forms that Union, or follows your advice to sell it off. Shebi he has yam and knife?[/color]

mployer:
Protect the workers so they can sink the refinery?

If you don't feel protected please resign. It's that simple.

What do you think SINK, you have probably been told a one-sided story.

These pegasan crooks should be banned by govt.
I can't believe that this administration is allowing them to play the whole country like a yoyo.

mployer:
When the union stage unnecessary strike or demand exorbitant wages, the pump price will remain the same?

[color=royalblue]Since this year that you have bought fuel at various rates, how many was caused by strikes?

Dangote will soon stop selling fuel in naira. You haven't dragged him on that oh. You are not concerned

But you care less that workers shouldn't have a Union, so you can buy fuel for 10 naira less.

Welldone oh.[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment will know that your employer cannot love you more than your Union.

The Nigerian law clearly stipulates workers to have a Union when their strength exceeds a minimum number

But because Dangote is the first man, and first oil company to exist on earth, we should burn the Nigerian constitution.

No wonder Chinese and Indian firms don't take us seriously. Anything goes in Nigeria.[/color]

In sane climes i agree, But in Naija context or Naija Union thats a big No

its in Nigerians Unions will go behind collect brown envelope and throw the people under the box ...

Bring a meter check Nigerians vote of confidence in Union ... its relatively low

Dangote cement is not under union and today they are one of the most efficient producers of cement and no some can dare say Dangote cement is bad or poor
i went to a private university in Nigeria ... the working condition and renumeration of my lecturers not under ASUU is beta .. standard offices n prompt payment visit unilag n see the state of lecturers offices

Union is only is in an environment hosted by bad irresponsible n bad leaders Buh with a responsible Mgt i swear Union dues is just a waste of money

Dangote have lasted 20yrs in business that not the kind of devil you warn or caution us about e no owe cement workers salary naa refinery workers e go start to maltreat, and send to pick beans

mployer:
Protect the staff so they can sink the refinery?

If you don't feel protected please resign. It's that simple.

[color=royalblue]So how come Chevron, 11plc, Seplat, Shell have not been sunk?

You already know the answer, but let me trust you to keep swimming against the tides of ignorance [/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment will know that your employer cannot love you more than your Union.

The Nigerian law clearly stipulates workers to have a Union when their strength exceeds a minimum number

But because Dangote is the first man, and first oil company to exist on earth, we should burn the Nigerian constitution.

No wonder Chinese and Indian firms don't take us seriously. Anything goes in Nigeria.[/color]

PENGASSAN IS NEARLY 50 YEARS OLD
IT COEXISTED with MOBIL, SHELL CHEVRON etc
Are they not private?
Are they not bigger THAN DANGOTE.?

Why does Dangote believe he can kill PENGASSAN

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.

..and so the entire 220 million Nigerians must suffer.

How about seeking redress at the industrial court?

PENGASSAN has been in existence all these years and has protected the Nigerian worker with the oil and gas companies. They are not new players in this space and the worked cordially with the shells, chevron, total, mobil, agip etc which are also private establishments.

Why will Dangote be treated differently. Nigeria has been producing oil for over 50 years and Pengassan has been here as well.... why Dangote?

chidiokay:
In sane climes i agree, But in Naija context or Naija Union thats a big No

its in Nigerians Unions will go behind collect brown envelope and throw the people under the box ...

Bring a meter check Nigerians vote of confidence in Union ... its relatively low

Dangote cement is not under union and today they are one of the most efficient producers of cement and no some can dare say Dangote cement is bad or poor
i went to a private university in Nigeria ... the working condition and renumeration of my lecturers not under ASUU is beta .. standard offices n prompt payment visit unilag n see the state of lecturers offices

Union is only is in an environment hosted by bad irresponsible n bad leaders Buh with a responsible Mgt i swear Union dues is just a waste of money

Dangote have lasted 20yrs in business that not the kind of devil you warn or caution us about e no owe cement workers salary naa refinery workers e go start to maltreat, and send to pick beans

[color=royalblue]Your comment is the exact reason why we have hundreds of Chinese & Lebanese companies suffering Nigerians in their companies

No wonder nobody takes us seriously, and I have always had the opinion that Nigerians themselves do not even know what they want

Shell and Chevron are 10 times bigger than Dangote. They have not folded up. They have not run down. They are under PENGASSAN.

But PENGASSAN will kill Dangote refinery in December if he joins them today; even though your Nigerian law compels him to do so.

Brilliant submission, my guy[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Since this year that you have bought fuel at various rates, how many was caused by strikes?

Dangote will soon stop selling fuel in naira. You haven't dragged him on that oh. You are not concerned

But you care less that workers shouldn't have a Union, so you can buy fuel for 10 naira less.

Welldone oh.[/color]

I should care about you for a job you begged to apply for?

If you are not cool with it, resign.

Pengassen can flex muscle with foreign and government owned companies not with a private Nigerian owned company.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Your comment reeks of serious, gross ignorance

The Nigerian labour law compels him to have a Union. You think PENGASSAN woke up and picked on him?

All Oil companies in Nigeria have a Union for its staff. It's a Labour law in Nigeria. PENGASSAN did not write the law. Nigeria did.

So he either forms that Union, or follows your advice to sell it off. Shebi he has yam and knife?[/color]

You said it’s the law, right? Fine—then PENGASSAN should take the matter to court instead of constituting a public nuisance. Or are they afraid of the legal outcome? There are teachers in private schools and universities across the country earning ridiculously low salaries, yet NUT and ASUU remain silent—because those are private institutions. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

what cocerns minister of labour??
where is the minister of petroleum?

aribisala0:
PENGASSAN IS NEARLY 50 YEARS OLD
IT COEXISTED with MOBIL, SHELL CHEVRON etc
Are they not private?
Are they not bigger THAN DANGOTE.?

Why does Dangote believe he can kill PENGASSAN

[color=royalblue] Because over 100 million Nigerians are enabling him online

Just scroll through this thread, and you'll see why Nigeria will retrogress by 50 years again

See the people that wants the government, and foreign investors to take them seriously [/color]

P1PrinceKT:
Iwhat do you mean by knife and the cake. What we know is No entity wether Private or Government can operate outside the law of the land.

As of today, PENGASSAN and NUPENG can't do much beyond making noise—a court ruled against them just yesterday. But as usual, we have a habit of romanticizing illegality.

lionshare:
You said it’s the law, right? Fine—then PENGASSAN should take the matter to court instead of constituting a public nuisance. Or are they afraid of the legal outcome? There are teachers in private schools and universities across the country earning ridiculously low salaries, yet NUT and ASUU remain silent—because those are private institutions. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

[color=royalblue]You see why I said you're ignorant

PENGASSAN shut Dangote refinery because over 80% of his staff have joined the Union, and he sacked them.

You don't even know the story, you just jumped online to talk. PENGASSAN is already fighting for the rights of its members in Dangote refinery [/color]

mployer:
I should care about you for a job you begged to apply for?

If you are not cool with it, resign.

Pengassen can flex muscle with foreign and government owned companies not with a private Nigerian owned company.

[color=royalblue]You have typed so much, without addressing the fact that the struggle is within the confines of the Labour law of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Nobody needs you to care. Just go and erase that section and subsection from the Constitution [/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Because over 100 million Nigerians are enabling him online

Just scroll through this thread, and you'll see why Nigeria will retrogress by 50 years again

See the people that wants the government, and foreign investors to take them seriously [/color]

Many of them are sponsored

Dangote is organised and well funded.

Make PENGASSAN employe the sacked workers
They can’t impose workers on Dangote

Savenigeria2023:
PENGASSAN has been in existence all these years and has protected the Nigerian worker with the oil and gas companies. They are not new players in this space and the worked cordially with the shells, chevron, total, mobil, agip etc which are also private establishments.

Why will Dangote be treated differently. Nigeria has been producing oil for over 50 years and Pengassan has been here as well.... why Dangote?

Those are criminal foreign companies drilling and selling your resources. They can afford to feed pengassen fat as an accomplice in their crime.

Dangote is in pure business, directly subject to market forces, he can't afford that.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You see why I said you're ignorant

PENGASSAN shut Dangote refinery because over 80% of his staff have joined the Union, and he sacked them.

You don't even know the story, you just jumped online to talk. PENGASSAN is already fighting for the rights of its members in Dangote refinery [/color]

Okay, let’s assume I am ignorant — is the Dangote refinery shut right now?

Tinubu should by matter of urgency use his full power and dissolve this pengassan and nupeng group. These guys have destroy this country with their selfish interests. They are the once responsible for the failure of our refineries not working, now they want to do the same to dangote by forcing him to join their useless union

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You have typed so much, without addressing the fact that the struggle is within the confines of the Labour law of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Nobody needs you to care. Just go and erase that section and subsection from the Constitution [/color]

No worries
By the time Dangote quietly relocate his company to Ghana una go shout labor laws tire

You think it’s too difficult to decouple from Nigeria?
Many companies like Michelin did it in the past.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]A large number of Nigerians are very ignorant.

Someone is protecting the staff, they are complaining.

I never see these kind of daftness before.[/color]

You're right. Just as ASUU is protecting students while extending their graduation by two to three years. PENGASSAN is presenting itself as advocating for workers' rights, whereas their real motivation is frustration over Dangote's efforts in combating corruption, which has closed off avenues for their own dishonest practices.

Peace!

NOETHNICITY:
No worries
By the time Dangote quietly relocate his company to Ghana una go shout labor laws tire

You think it’s too difficult to decouple from Nigeria?
Many companies like Michelin did it in the past.

[color=royalblue]Did Michelin leave because of Union, or because of your economy?

Learn to look at issues without bias.

Show me where Shell, Seplat, 11Plc, Chevron staff are complaining about their Union. These guys are bigger than Dangote in the Oil game

But because we deliberately and intentionally choose to be ignorant everyday, we cannot see clearly

If the Ghanaian government has Union as part of its country laws, will Dangote form it or not? You already know the answer oh.

But let us kill Union for Workers, so Dangote can be the Savior of mankind.[/color]

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.

With this development will other private investors be encouraged to invest in Nigeria? If they do not invest were will the jobs come from? Will pengasen have anybody to join their union? Where has pengasen been all these years that what Nigeria was doing was importation of petroleum products? Would it have been better for Dangote to site his refinery in Togo, buy crude from Nigeria, refine and send to Nigeria?

Two weeks ago or there about it was NUPENG and now it's PENGASEN. Is it not a clear sign that oil cabal and political enemies of Nigeria are at work? The refinery is the biggest manufacturing outfit in this country, see how we are treating it.

Almunjid:
Your right. Just as ASUU is protecting students while extending their graduation by two to three years. PENGASSAN is presenting itself as advocating for workers' rights, whereas their real motivation is frustration over Dangote's efforts to combat corruption, which has closed off avenues for their own dishonest practices.

Peace!

[color=royalblue]Is ASUU as a Union formed by students?

Is it to protect Nigerian students?

Who really cursed us with ignorance?[/color]

Arrest PENGASSAN Excos now. BAN the union. Its Useless to Nigerians

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.

If you understand why no sector in the oil & gas is functioning optimally/efficient, you would see Dangote is only in the best interest of his investment .. no crime

Nigerians are unknown for i can not cumma die mentality and we take it into work places
if the company is not in your Father name n you are giving your Best your colleagues will mock you ... beta no kill yourself naa your papa get am attitude

The reason PH and other local refineries remain unfunctional till date is becos its in the hands of Nigerians, can you compare the shoprite foreigners managed in Nigeria to what shoprite is now in hands of Nigerians

Sentiments and gaslight won't prevail here, Dangote is functioning according to projection becos its key operation are in the hands of foreigners .. Nigerians are wicked, selfish and ota Aje how dey will cash out n run you down is whats paramount to naija employee

Dangote concerns and skepticism are genuine, he trust indians and that why Dangote cement is the highest producer of cement in Africa

You petition Dangote is replacing Nigerian is invalid cos as at today Nigerians are the highest number of employees which still within the ambit of laws

Vision101:
With this development will other private investors be encouraged to invest in Nigeria? If they do not invest were will the jobs come from? Will pengasen have anybody to join their union? Where has pengasen been all these years that what Nigeria was doing was importation of petroleum products? Would it have been better for Dangote to site his refinery in Togo, buy crude from Nigeria, refine and send to Nigeria?

Two weeks ago or there about it was NUPENG and now it's PENGASEN. Is it not a clear sign that oil cabal and political enemies of Nigeria are at work? The refinery is the biggest manufacturing outfit in this country, see how we are treating it.

Pengassan has no right or power to make Nigeria refineries work, these are a result of bad governmental policies and corruption in the land. PENGASSAN is simply a workers Union just like any other Union. It doesn't have power to build refineries.