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Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Almunjid: 12:53pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Is ASUU as a Union formed by students?

Is it to protect Nigerian students?

Who really cursed us with ignorance?[/color]
Was the union established by Dangote's workers or by external influences? The situation mirrors that of ASUU, which once claimed to be fighting for the rights of Nigerian students, similar to these external forces professing to advocate for Dangote's workers.

Peace!
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by P1PrinceKT(m): 12:53pm On Sep 30, 2025
lionshare:
As of today, PENGASSAN and NUPENG can't do much beyond making noise—a court ruled against them just yesterday. But as usual, we have a habit of romanticizing illegality.
On what basis did the court go against them? Based on what ground? I think that is all what we're not figuring out.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Dee60: 12:54pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.
Why did those workers join the union? They risked their jobs by wanting to do aluta. There are far more workers who did not join. These unions should stop their lies. The unions in Nigeria have a lot of trust deficit. Most Nigerians dont trust them. How has PENGASSAN and NUPENG stopped all public refineries from going bankrupt? Did they not join in the party to destroy those FG refineries? PENGASSAN, read between the lines. The citizens dont trust you and will not watch you as you destroy the major source of GDP growth in Nigeria today.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by P1PrinceKT(m): 12:56pm On Sep 30, 2025
LibertyRep:
..and so the entire 220 million Nigerians must suffer.

How about seeking redress at the industrial court?
For your information Dangote did not go to court to grant him right or power to sack those 800 Nigeria workers.
I believe that's why thier Union also did not go to court to seek redress.
Because people like you and I are not trusted by Dangote compared to Indians.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 12:56pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan has no right or power to make Nigeria refineries work, these are a result of bad governmental policies and corruption in the land. PENGASSAN is simply a workers Union just like any other Union. It doesn't have power to build refineries.
[color=royalblue]You are wasting your time.

They cannot even educate themselves on what a Workers Union is about.

Imagine blaming a worker's Union for your economy. PENGASSAN is the reason why refineries are not working? grin

Tufiakwa. What kind of ignorance are we breathing in, abeg?
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Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Dee60: 12:57pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan has no right or power to make Nigeria refineries work, these are a result of bad governmental policies and corruption in the land. PENGASSAN is simply a workers Union just like any other Union. It doesn't have power to build refineries.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by professorPABX: 12:58pm On Sep 30, 2025
LibertyRep:
The DSS should be tackling this as economic sabotage.

How can a group of people decide to hold the entire nation to ransom.
What PENGASSAN is doing is an act of Economic Sabotage against Nigeria and the Government of Bola Ahmed Tinubu. ASUU cannot impose its conditions on Private Universities because Private Universities pay Salaries and must be run to meet the expectations of those funding the institutions.

Worldwide, employment is based on terms. It is not by force. China and Singapore were developing countries few decades ago. There were rules that censored all acts of economic sabotage even up to Religions which they considered act of economic sabotage which carried severe punishment even capital punishment.

PENGASSAN run and ruined Refineries and Pipelines and grounded Refineries and Depots. They aided and abetted Subsidy Fraud.

DANGOTE took loans to build Refineries and has to pay back.

What PENGASSAN and NUPENG are doing are acts of Economic Sabotage against Nigeria and they have started Psychological Warfare against the Government of Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

OBASANJO fought them to sell Refineries but Yaradua came and failed Nigeria thinking he was doing OBASANJO.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Educationalserv: 12:58pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue] Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment will know that your employer cannot love you more than your Union.

The Nigerian law clearly stipulates workers to have a Union when their strength exceeds a minimum number

But because Dangote is the first man, and first oil company to exist on earth, we should burn the Nigerian constitution.

No wonder Chinese and Indian firms don't take us seriously. Anything goes in Nigeria.[/color]
How many time have Union protested against Indian and Chinese? Criminals
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 12:58pm On Sep 30, 2025
Almunjid:
Was the union established by Dangote's workers or by external influences? The situation mirrors that of ASUU, which once claimed to be fighting for the rights of Nigerian students, similar to these external forces professing to advocate for Dangote's workers.

Peace!
[color=royalblue]Please nau. Stop embarrassing yourself

ASUU means Academic Staff Union of Universities. Show me where Students are part of ASUU?

Stop please. Go and understand what Worker's Union is, and then come back and edit your comment.[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Vision101(m): 1:00pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan has no right or power to make Nigeria refineries work, these are a result of bad governmental policies and corruption in the land. PENGASSAN is simply a workers Union just like any other Union. It doesn't have power to build refineries.
Nobody is asking PENGASEN to build refinery. None was functioning before now. Someone risked his wealth to build one and employed so many Nigerians and the oil cabals are using unions to disrupt his business.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by P1PrinceKT(m): 1:02pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]You are wasting your time.

They cannot even educate themselves on what a Workers Union is about.

Imagine blaming a worker's Union for your economy. PENGASSAN is the reason why refineries are not working? grin

Tufiakwa. What kind of ignorance are we breathing in, abeg?
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Ndume was saying where were Pengassan when Subsidy was removed? Simply he is telling Nigerians that Pengassan did not fight for them when Subsidy was removed. The dude was ignorant that Pengassan is a Workers Union which has no role in deciding what price a government should sell its products.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by homebase: 1:03pm On Sep 30, 2025
This is strange!
The barrage of online PR urchins defending Dangote—where are they trooping out from?
Honestly, it's good to have enough dough to throw around at online beggars.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by lionshare: 1:03pm On Sep 30, 2025
[quote author=P1PrinceKT post=136967749]Union actions could disrupt operations at the refinery, which is a strategic asset.

https://punchng.com/court-bars-pengassan-from-stopping-gas-supply-to-dangote-refinery/
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Anniwil(m): 1:04pm On Sep 30, 2025
lionshare:
Okay, let’s assume I am ignorant — is the Dangote refinery shut right now?
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I really don't know how we got this low, as a country.

It is even how they think that a Union will affect the price of petrol? What has a Union got to do with Dangote, selling at 865?

People are simply asking him to follow what the Constitution says about protecting the right of worker, but only reading through this thread sef dey shame me.[/color]
My brother,our sentimentalism in Nigeria is our bane,soon someone will use the tribal leg and spit
I admire u bro and this struggle.It’s in sync with what Trade unionism should stand for but alas the rest always will be sentimental and expressly want to remain oppressed
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:05pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Ndume was saying where were Pengassan when Subsidy was removed? Simply he is telling Nigerians that Pengassan did not fight for them when Subsidy was removed. The dude was ignorant that Pengassan is a Workers Union which has no role in deciding what price a government should sell its products.
[color=royalblue]It's pathetic, Chief.

See them blaming a Worker's Union for low sperm count and drug abuse.

Nigerians have serious issues with understanding [/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by P1PrinceKT(m): 1:06pm On Sep 30, 2025
Dee60:
Why did those workers join the union? They risked their jobs by wanting to do aluta. There are far more workers who did not join. These unions should stop their lies. The unions in Nigeria have a lot of trust deficit. Most Nigerians dont trust them. How has PENGASSAN and NUPENG stopped all public refineries from going bankrupt? Did they not join in the party to destroy those FG refineries? PENGASSAN, read between the lines. The citizens dont trust you and will not watch you as you destroy the major source of GDP growth in Nigeria today.
The Constitution gave them free will to join any Union if they wish, ... Saying that they can not be forced to join neither denied their right to join if they wish. But Dangote did not want that. Which if you use a common sense he is denying the thier right to unionism which is against the law.
Pengassan is telling you that Dangote broke the law which in the future will affect the industry. And the welfare of Nigerians.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by lionshare: 1:07pm On Sep 30, 2025
homebase:
This is strange!

The barrage of online PR urchins defending Dangote—where are they trooping out from?

Honestly, it's good to have enough dough to throw around at online beggars.
You're funny—do you really think Dangote can afford to pay everyone? Nobody wants fuel scarcity or disruptions to their daily lives and livelihoods, which is exactly what this drama could lead to if it continues. Plus, the past behavior of these unions has already left a sour taste in many people's mouths. They’re often seen as self-centered and rarely show genuine concern for the welfare of ordinary Nigerians.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:07pm On Sep 30, 2025
Anniwil:
My brother,our sentimentalism in Nigeria is our bane,soon someone will use the tribal leg and spit
I admire u bro and this struggle.It’s in sync with what Trade unionism should stand for but alas the rest always will be sentimental and expressly want to remain oppressed
[color=royalblue]There's is no Nigerian worker that will tell you to hate a Union. No employer will love you more than your Union.

Through Unions, workers have had a better share and environment, even though more can be done.

Anybody telling anyone to scrap Unions, is either ignorant, or was created without a brain.[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by chidiokay: 1:10pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Your comment is the exact reason why we have hundreds of Chinese & Lebanese companies suffering Nigerians in their companies

No wonder nobody takes us seriously, and I have always had the opinion that Nigerians themselves do not even know what they want

Shell and Chevron are 10 times bigger than Dangote. They have not folded up. They have not run down. They are under PENGASSAN.

But PENGASSAN will kill Dangote refinery in December if he joins them today; even though your Nigerian law compels him to do so.

Brilliant submission, my guy[/color]
No my comment is not the problem, chinese n Lebanese treat our people anyhow cos our leaders (govt/union) sold us out to those IOC

if your neighbour see your parent nd still beat you mercilessly in front of your dad know dem don collect dowry on your head cheesy

You know Osifo pengassan president said the same thing, Total, shell, mobile are ten times bigger ... and i felt ashame for his 1st class, what a shame

1st Total, shell and mobile are not in the same line of production has Dangote refinery ... shell,total are miners they are suppose to be bigger cos they are top on the distribution chain, they feed n supply refineries
same way dangote refinery is bigger than any retail depot or marketer oil farm .. comparing dangote with shell is mismatch

Shell n Total can't run down becos that part of the oil sector is crucial to Nigeria heartbeat, if they grumble it ... No money for anybody again.

On the contrary Refinery is that sector, Nigerian enemy dont want to Function at All, 4 refineries we own are under Pengassan for decades have you ever seen pengassan shut down the nation nd say enough is enough this refineries must work ... most of our members are 1st class intellectual we will work with the contractors to ensure the refineries work

Pengassan feels it ok to shut down the economic becos of 800 workers But i want Osifo to do the maths of members they for get if only the other refineries are working actively .. why that one no pain them

with the actions of Pengassan to bully Dangote into sunmission, Please does that motivate Investors to come build refinery here, with shege Dangote don see since he began that refinery why should any investor risk his fund in that sector ... 1st class my Ass
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:11pm On Sep 30, 2025
lionshare:
You're funny—do you really think Dangote can afford to pay everyone? Nobody wants fuel scarcity or disruptions to their daily lives and livelihoods, which is exactly what this drama could lead to if it continues. Plus, the past behavior of these unions has already left a sour taste in many people's mouths. They’re often seen as self-centered and rarely show genuine concern for the welfare of ordinary Nigerians.
[color=royalblue]A Workers Union is for Workers, not for you.

What concerns PENGASSAN with an Ordinary Nigerian? Are you part of PENGASSAN?

I don't even understand you guys. You type so well, but choose to compose a text without intelligence.

PENGASSAN is fighting for the rights of its workers. It's not for ordinary Nigerians. It's not for poor people. It's not for filling stations.

What is so difficult to understand here?[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Hisroyalbadmeat(m): 1:11pm On Sep 30, 2025
This Dangote refinery realty disrupted the cabals in this country, first the removal of subsidy,then a private working refinery, This is their last kick, after this Dem go mellow,
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Winnin009: 1:11pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Your comment reeks of serious, gross ignorance

The Nigerian labour law compels him to have a Union. You think PENGASSAN woke up and picked on him?

All Oil companies in Nigeria have a Union for its staff. It's a Labour law in Nigeria. PENGASSAN did not write the law. Nigeria did.

So he either forms that Union, or follows your advice to sell it off. Shebi he has yam and knife?[/color]
You've been talking since. I'm not sure you know the full meaning of PENGASSAN to begin with.

You're acting as if PENGASSAN is the only union in that refinery.

Pengassan to start with isn't fight for the collective rights of anyone but senior oil staff.
So, what about the other thousands of Nigerians working there? Lol.

Guy, dey stop to think sometimes.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by frog12: 1:11pm On Sep 30, 2025
The union alleged that many of the jobs were replaced with more than 2,000 expatriates, mainly from India.
black man na him own problem. i mean 2000 indians to replace nigerian jobs.
is NASS sleeping or what?
they have to call the man to order. e dey break many laws.
this is unpatriotic shocked shocked
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by P1PrinceKT(m): 1:12pm On Sep 30, 2025
chidiokay:
If you understand why no sector in the oil & gas is functioning optimally/efficient, you would see Dangote is only in the best interest of his investment .. no crime

Nigerians are unknown for i can not cumma die mentality and we take it into work places
if the company is not in your Father name n you are giving your Best your colleagues will mock you ... beta no kill yourself naa your papa get am attitude

The reason PH and other local refineries remain unfunctional till date is becos its in the hands of Nigerians, can you compare the shoprite foreigners managed in Nigeria to what shoprite is now in hands of Nigerians

Sentiments and gaslight won't prevail here, Dangote is functioning according to projection becos its key operation are in the hands of foreigners .. Nigerians are wicked, selfish and ota Aje how dey will cash out n run you down is whats paramount to naija employee

Dangote concerns and skepticism are genuine, he trust indians and that why Dangote cement is the highest producer of cement in Africa

You petition Dangote is replacing Nigerian is invalid cos as at today Nigerians are the highest number of employees which still within the ambit of laws
Your reasons might not be 100% correct. However, people that work
In his cement industry can tell you more... On how he treats workers.
Lastly Dangote sacked those employees not because they're wicked (Nigerians) but because they joined the Workers Union. Had it been they did not. He would still work with them no matter how wicked they're!.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:14pm On Sep 30, 2025
chidiokay:
No my comment is not the problem, chinese n Lebanese treat our people anyhow cos our leaders (govt/union) sold us out to those IOC

if your neighbour see your parent nd still beat you mercilessly in front of your dad know dem don collect dowry on your head cheesy

You know Osifo pengassan president said the same thing, Total, shell, mobile are ten times bigger ... and i felt ashame for his 1st class, what a shame

1st Total, shell and mobile are not in the same line of production has Dangote refinery ... shell,total are miners they are suppose to be bigger cos they are top on the distribution chain, they feed n supply refineries
ideally dangote refinery is bigger than any depot or marketer oil farm .. comparing dangote with shell is invalid

Shell n Total can't run down becos that part of the oil sector is crucial to Nigeria heartbeat, if they grumble it ... No money for anybody again.

On the contrary Refinery is that sector, Nigerian enemy dont want to Function at All, 4 refineries we own are under Pengassan for decades have you ever seen pengassan shut down the nation nd say enough is enough this refineries must work ... most of our members are 1st class intellectual we will work with the contractors to ensure the refineries work

Pengassan feels it ok to shut down the economic becos of 800 workers But i want Osifo to do the maths of members they for get if only the other refineries are working actively .. why that one no pain them

with the actions of Pengassan to bully Dangote into sunmission, Please does that motivate Investors to come build refinery here, with shege Dangote don see since he began that refinery why should any investor risk his fund in that sector ... 1st class my Ass
[color=royalblue]So Shell, Seplat, 11Plc, Chevron, and hundreds of foreign firms are not investors, abi?

You don't even know what side you're one.

Foreign investors will disappear if Unions exist, but all the foreign investors actually have the Unions. It's our own Nigerian brother that is scared of having it.

Some jokes write themselves, my guy[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by lionshare: 1:16pm On Sep 30, 2025
Anniwil:
My brother,our sentimentalism in Nigeria is our bane,soon someone will use the tribal leg and spit
I admire u bro and this struggle.It’s in sync with what Trade unionism should stand for but alas the rest always will be sentimental and expressly want to remain oppressed
The country’s problem isn’t just poor leadership, but followership. Leaders often mirror their followers’ views, which stalls progress. For real growth, followers must take responsibility, be accountable, and embrace positive change—even when it’s uncomfortable.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:16pm On Sep 30, 2025
Winnin009:
You've been talking since. I'm not sure you know the full meaning of PENGASSAN to begin with.

You're acting as if PENGASSAN is the only union in that refinery.

Pengassan to start with isn't fight for the collective rights of anyone but senior oil staff.
So, what about the other thousands of Nigerians working there? Lol.

Guy, dey stop to think sometimes.
[color=royalblue]Can you tell us another Union in that refinery?

I am very sure you will disappear now. I am sure

Tell me another Union again that has opened there, apart from PENGASSAN.[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ayindejimmy(m): 1:16pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.
Which Nigerian workers are replaced by Indians ? Do you think there are no laws that states the number of foreigners that can work in a company in Nigeria.
The Union just want to be in a position to call the shots at Dangote Refinery. Why must everyone join there Union? Can't Dangote staff form there own union. So they want to force workers on Dangote Refinery ba? The Dangote Refinery knows whats best for them and they should be allowedd to employ and sack whomever they want. If you want to work at the Refinery, you must obey their rules
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Anniwil(m): 1:17pm On Sep 30, 2025
lionshare:
You're funny—do you really think Dangote can afford to pay everyone? Nobody wants fuel scarcity or disruptions to their daily lives and livelihoods, which is exactly what this drama could lead to if it continues. Plus, the past behavior of these unions has already left a sour taste in many people's mouths. They’re often seen as self-centered and rarely show genuine concern for the welfare of ordinary Nigerians.
Indeed the drama can lead to disruption if the autonomy Dangote has in the refinery is exhausted and our NNPC cannot meet its quota,btw no one knows the true daily Nigeria consumption cos corruption has thrived in the O&G sector.
As per the behavior of past unions,it’s actually contextual ,the real issue here is the right to unionize and the sacking of those who made that attempt.
Genuine concern for Nigerian’s welfare starts from our local government- what have they done with the increased direct allocation?,Our State governors ,how have they ensured that citizens are the direct beneficiaries of their enhanced revenue.
PENGASSAN on the other hand has a clear mandate - Protect the job of its members and improve their working conditions which so far
especially in recent times has been done quite well
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by P1PrinceKT(m): 1:17pm On Sep 30, 2025
Vision101:
Nobody is asking PENGASEN to build refinery. None was functioning before now. Someone risked his wealth to build one and employed so many Nigerians and the oil cabals are using unions to disrupt his business.
You're deviating from the fact of sacking the workers, which has to do with joining a Union. Not when, how and who has the refinery.
It's just that some Nigerians know little about thier right that's why they accept every trash.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by 12inchess: 1:19pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
You're deviating from the fact of sacking the workers, which has to do with joining a Union. Not when, how and who has the refinery.
It's just that some Nigerians know little about thier right that's why they accept every trash.
Dont waste your time. Most Nigerians are very dumb individuals that worship rich people and their money even when the said rich people don't give a sh.i.t about them.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Originalsly: 1:19pm On Sep 30, 2025
LibertyRep:
The DSS should be tackling this as economic sabotage.

How can a group of people decide to hold the entire nation to ransom.
I'm all for unions ... but this one need to be scrapped. A strike based on allegations? A strike is always based on workers demands ...better working conditions.. better pay ... safe work conditions etc. This one is based on union executives demands. They need to be crushed...and investigated.
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