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Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ayindejimmy(m): 1:20pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Can you tell us another Union in that refinery?

I am very sure you will disappear now. I am sure

Tell me another Union again that has opened there, apart from PENGASSAN.[/color]
Must every work place have a union ?
The only thing I know unions do in Nigeria is control pricing and armtwist employers .

Where were the unions when Tinubu removed subsidy , them kept quiet because it favours them
Now , someone is trying to terminate the oil cabals they are going on strike
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by P1PrinceKT(m): 1:20pm On Sep 30, 2025
ayindejimmy:
Which Nigerian workers are replaced by Indians ? Do you think there are no laws that states the number of foreigners that can work in a company in Nigeria.
The Union just want to be in a position to call the shots at Dangote Refinery. Why must everyone join there Union? Can't Dangote staff form there own union. So they want to force workers on Dangote Refinery ba? The Dangote Refinery knows whats best for them and they should be allowedd to employ and sack whomever they want. If you want to work at the Refinery, you must obey their rules
Joining Union is not by force. If they decide today they exit the Union. The next day Pengassan will stop the strike.
Your own is to convince them to exit the Union (Pengassan) and form their own Dangote refineries own.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by lionshare: 1:21pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]A Workers Union is for Workers, not for you.

What concerns PENGASSAN with an Ordinary Nigerian? Are you part of PENGASSAN?

I don't even understand you guys. You type so well, but choose to compose a text without intelligence.

PENGASSAN is fighting for the rights of its workers. It's not for ordinary Nigerians. It's not for poor people. It's not for filling stations.

What is so difficult to understand here?[/color]
Both the workers and the refinery ultimately serve one group: the end-users—the people. If the people don’t want any disruption in supply, who are the workers to complain? Between workers, investors, and the end-users, who is easier to replace? Resisting change only leads to being crushed. It’s better to embrace change first, then find ways to align your interests with those of the end-users and investors. If not, the door is always open.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:22pm On Sep 30, 2025
ayindejimmy:
Must every work place have a union ?
The only thing I know unions do in Nigeria is control pricing and armtwist employers .

Where were the unions when Tinubu removed subsidy , them kept quiet because it favours them
Now , someone is trying to terminate the oil cabals they are going on strike
[color=royalblue]Yes, according to the Nigerian Labour Law. It stipulates that if a workplace has a particular number of staff, they MUST have a Union.

Yes..
YES
YESSSS....

Like, before you argue, just read first.

Once again, Yes.[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by commoditiesnig(m): 1:22pm On Sep 30, 2025
Mthumbie:
This is a very sensitive issues that needs to be dealt with decisively.
Very true
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:23pm On Sep 30, 2025
lionshare:
Both the workers and the refinery ultimately serve one group: the end-users—the people. If the people don’t want any disruption in supply, who are the workers to complain? Between workers, investors, and the end-users, who is easier to replace? Resisting change only leads to being crushed. It’s better to embrace change first, then find ways to align your interests with those of the end-users and investors. If not, the door is always open.
[color=royalblue]So if they owe me for months, or provide poor working conditions, because you don't want any disruption, I shouldn't complain abi?

Chai! This guy![/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by 12inchess: 1:23pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Joining Union is not by force. If they decide today they exit the Union. The next day Pengassan will stop the strike.
Your own is to convince them to exit the Union (Pengassan) and form their own Dangote refineries own.
Imagine having equal votes with someone with this kind of thinking. Many Nigerians go to school but are uneducated. A workers union is meant to protect the rights of workers in the union and is recognized by our labor laws and not to build refineries. Nigerians are so used to being mistreated at work that they can't even phantom that they should have rights to fair treatment.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Elusive001: 1:24pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]A large number of Nigerians are very ignorant.

Someone is protecting the staff, they are complaining.

I never see these kind of daftness before.[/color]
I laugh at all of them talking against NUPENG and PENGASSAN. They are uninformed. Most of them are hawkers and road side kiosks owners who do not know what these unions stand for.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by chidiokay: 1:24pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]A Workers Union is for Workers, not for you.

What concerns PENGASSAN with an Ordinary Nigerian? Are you part of PENGASSAN?

I don't even understand you guys. You type so well, but choose to compose a text without intelligence.

PENGASSAN is fighting for the rights of its workers. It's not for ordinary Nigerians. It's not for poor people. It's not for filling stations.

What is so difficult to understand here?[/color]
You forget Pengassan are Nigerian 1st before association and incase you forget, Pengassan are under Labour Union whose primary concern are Nigerians ... tell me i am wrong naw undecided

Pengassan are Nigerian 1st meaning National interest above any member interest be it there wives ... sabotaging the economy is treasonable

If Penegassan are reasonable what should be a priority is promoting conducive environment for more investor to come into than sector ... more employment more members and more flourish for the union

But when you choke n suffocate dangote, which investor we come to a sector Union will be dictating or threaten to kill your business
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Almunjid: 1:25pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Please nau. Stop embarrassing yourself

ASUU means Academic Staff Union of Universities. Show me where Students are part of ASUU?

Stop please. Go and understand what Worker's Union is, and then come back and edit your comment.[/color]
For a productive dialogue, it's important to fully read and comprehend the statements made by others, rather than resorting to insults. I'm aware of ASUU's full meaning, but my previous comment referred to their claims of protecting students. While the name of a union may hold significance, the claims they make regarding their actions are more important.

ASUU, while fighting for their own interests, also professed to be advocating for students. It's essential to know that many unions may have ulterior motives despite their professed objectives. This understanding requires an open-minded and multi-perspective approach, rather than a myopic viewpoint. Don't be offended if I choose not to reply to your next quote. Engaging with a subjective individual like you may not yield a fruitful conversation. Nevertheless, I appreciate the time you have invested in this discussion.

Peace!
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:25pm On Sep 30, 2025
Elusive001:
I laugh at all of them talking against NUPENG and PENGASSAN. They are uninformed. Most of them are hawkers and road side kiosks owners who do not know what these unions stand for.
[color=royalblue] Probably content creators who have no idea of what a corporate work environment should be.

Very Ignorant set of people [/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Elusive001: 1:25pm On Sep 30, 2025
12inchess:
Imagine having equal votes with someone with this kind of thinking. Many Nigerians go to school but are uneducated. A workers union is meant to protect the rights of workers in the union and is recognized by our labor laws and not to build refineries. Nigerians are so used to being mistreated at work that they can't even phantom that they should have rights to fair treatment.
Eh shock you bah? Na hawkers and road side kiosk owners you dey reason with for here oooo.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ayindejimmy(m): 1:26pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yes, according to the Nigerian Labour Law. It stipulates that if a workplace has a particular number of staff, they MUST have a Union.

Yes..
YES
YESSSS....

Like, before you argue, just read first.
Thank you.

The garantee of Fundamental human right is even above the constitution and it ensures freedom of association.
So you can force union upons anybody - it's voluntary

Once again, Yes.[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:27pm On Sep 30, 2025
12inchess:
Imagine having equal votes with someone with this kind of thinking. Many Nigerians go to school but are uneducated. A workers union is meant to protect the rights of workers in the union and is recognized by our labor laws and not to build refineries. Nigerians are so used to being mistreated at work that they can't even phantom that they should have rights to fair treatment.
[color=royalblue]As simple as the bolded is, many Nigerians cannot understand it.

God help us![/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Elusive001: 1:27pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue] Probably content creators who have no idea of what a corporate work environment should be.

Very Ignorant set of people [/color]
They have never worked in a sound corporate environment. I laugh at how dem dey disgrace the8e families here.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ayindejimmy(m): 1:27pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yes, according to the Nigerian Labour Law. It stipulates that if a workplace has a particular number of staff, they MUST have a Union.

Yes..
YES
YESSSS....

Like, before you argue, just read first.
Thank you.

Once again, Yes.[/color]
The preservation of Fundamental human right is even above the constitution and it ensures freedom of association.
So you cant force union upons anybody - it's voluntary
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Elusive001: 1:28pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yes, according to the Nigerian Labour Law. It stipulates that if a workplace has a particular number of staff, they MUST have a Union.

Yes..
YES
YESSSS....

Like, before you argue, just read first.

Once again, Yes.[/color]
You dey lecturethe illiterates bah?

Leave them to continue foaming in the mouth. When finish, dem go go look food chop.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:30pm On Sep 30, 2025
ayindejimmy:
The preservation of Fundamental human right is even above the constitution and it ensures freedom of association.
So you cant force union upons anybody - it's voluntary
[color=royalblue] It's pointless engaging you on this discourse.

You're right, my friend. Very right. I'm sure Dangote doesn't know this line. I hope he sees it, so he can show PENGASSAN and stop this drama.

Take care![/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by tolexy111: 1:30pm On Sep 30, 2025
FutureFocus:
They should be arrested and locked up , economy saboteurs
YES
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by lionshare: 1:31pm On Sep 30, 2025
Anniwil:
Indeed the drama can lead to disruption if the autonomy Dangote has in the refinery is exhausted and our NNPC cannot meet its quota,btw no one knows the true daily Nigeria consumption cos corruption has thrived in the O&G sector.
As per the behavior of past unions,it’s actually contextual ,the real issue here is the right to unionize and the sacking of those who made that attempt.
Genuine concern for Nigerian’s welfare starts from our local government- what have they done with the increased direct allocation?,Our State governors ,how have they ensured that citizens are the direct beneficiaries of their enhanced revenue.
PENGASSAN on the other hand has a clear mandate - Protect the job of its members and improve their working conditions which so far
especially in recent times has been done quite well
I believe around 1.41 billion liters were consumed in August—dividing that by 30 gives the average daily consumption. Honestly, unionizing and layoffs are just symptoms of a deeper issue neither side wants to address. We need to understand what Dangote risks if unions are allowed, and what unions stand to gain. All the talk about workers’ welfare seems like an afterthought.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:32pm On Sep 30, 2025
Elusive001:
You dey lecturethe illiterates bah?

Leave them to continue foaming in the mouth. When finish, dem go go look food chop.
[color=royalblue]I have a lot of spare time

I go soon leave them, make dem dey disgrace themselves dey go grin[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by lionshare: 1:34pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So if they owe me for months, or provide poor working conditions, because you don't want any disruption, I shouldn't complain abi?

Chai! This guy![/color]
Seems like you don’t realize you have a choice—resign! It’s a competitive market.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ayindejimmy(m): 1:37pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]As simple as the bolded is, many Nigerians cannot understand it.

God help us![/color]
Nigerian workers are not oblivious to the benefits of unions but the argument is that PENGASSAN is constituting a nuisance to a monumental investment meant to benefit Nigerians .
Dangote is a big company that has various benefits for its workers.
Whenever ASUU goes on strike do private universities follow suit? Are they not under ASUU.
Dangote should as a matter of urgency encourage its workers to form their own private union in
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ayindejimmy(m): 1:38pm On Sep 30, 2025
lionshare:
Seems like you don’t realize you have a choice—resign! It’s a competitive market.
But this is not the case between PENGASSAN and Dangote Refinery
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ayindejimmy(m): 1:41pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue] It's pointless engaging you on this discourse.

You're right, my friend. Very right. I'm sure Dangote doesn't know this line. I hope he sees it, so he can show PENGASSAN and stop this drama.

Take care![/color]
. Why is PENGASSAN insisting there must be union at Dangote Refinery?
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ogascomax: 1:48pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]A large number of Nigerians are very ignorant.

Someone is protecting the staff, they are complaining.

I never see these kind of daftness before.[/color]
😂😂😂😂 The matter tire you too. I don't work for PENGASSAN or benefits anything from them. But those guys that think PENGASSAN is the foe between Dangote and PENGASSAN I wonder what level of ignorance can be displayed by them. Dangote is a business man and he is not helping me or us he is simply doing his business and if he is not checkmate he will enslave his workers all in the name of its my refinery that I can do anything I want.
Where is that done in the world.
Is he the first oil and gas company. Is Chevron, seplat, Mobil, total etc government owned. Don't they play by the rules. Why most only Dangote take his path. If all the rest companies decided to go solo then who will intervene for workers again?
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by izzou(m): 1:53pm On Sep 30, 2025
ogascomax:
😂😂😂😂 The matter tire you too. I don't work for PENGASSAN or benefits anything from them. But those guys that think PENGASSAN is the foe between Dangote and PENGASSAN I wonder what level of ignorance can be displayed by them. Dangote is a business man and he is not helping me or us he is simply doing his business and if he is not checkmate he will enslave his workers all in the name of its my refinery that I can do anything I want.
Where is that done in the world.
Is he the first oil and gas company. Is Chevron, seplat, Mobil, total etc government owned. Don't they play by the rules. Why most only Dangote take his path. If all the rest companies decided to go solo then who will intervene for workers again?
[color=royalblue]My brother.

Someone here said Dangote is fighting for his interest. Someone who is a businessman, who's primary goal is to minimize loss and maximize his profit, is fighting for your interest? grin

Na why Politicians and everybody dey use us play. The simplest form of education, we refuse to have.

If every company decides to be like Dangote, who will fight for the Workers interest? That's the question they can never answer.[/color]
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Eniitankorede: 1:54pm On Sep 30, 2025
P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.
They were sacked because they joined Pengassan which is an association if economic saboteurs and terrorists. They were forced and cajoled to join Pengassan which is against the law. Dangote cannot allow his refinery sabotaged like they did to government refineries.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by ogascomax: 1:54pm On Sep 30, 2025
Almunjid:
Na wah Ooo! Is it no longer possible for a wealthy individual to build a refinery in Nigeria without encountering obstacles? PENGASSAN should refrain from causing Dangote to regret constructing this refinery in Nigeria. If they believe his actions were unjust, they should take it upon themselves to build a refinery and provide employment for those who were terminated. PENGASSAN appears to be merely advocating for their own interests, exploiting the situation of the terminated workers as a front to disguise their true intentions.

Peace!
When you guys always say PENGASSAN should build her own refinery I just wonder the level of ignorant people like you are. Is PENGASSAN not a combination of all the oil companies in Nigeria. NNPC, Shell, Chevron, Mobil, Total, NLNG etc. the staffs of all those companies made up PENGASSAN. Then which one is that they should build their own refinery.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by bixton(m): 1:57pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue] Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment will know that your employer cannot love you more than your Union.

The Nigerian law clearly stipulates workers to have a Union when their strength exceeds a minimum number

But because Dangote is the first man, and first oil company to exist on earth, we should burn the Nigerian constitution.

No wonder Chinese and Indian firms don't take us seriously. Anything goes in Nigeria.[/color]
Please with respect to the bold. What's that number?

Thanks.
Re: PENGASSAN And Dangote Reconciliation Meeting Ends In Deadlock by Eniitankorede: 1:58pm On Sep 30, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue] Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment will know that your employer cannot love you more than your Union.

The Nigerian law clearly stipulates workers to have a Union when their strength exceeds a minimum number

But because Dangote is the first man, and first oil company to exist on earth, we should burn the Nigerian constitution.

No wonder Chinese and Indian firms don't take us seriously. Anything goes in Nigeria.[/color]
Thats not true. Private hospital workers and private universities workers don’t join unions. Allow Dangote to breath. Pengassan is a group of economic saboteurs and terrorists.
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