₦airaland Forum

lionshare:
Protecting who, exactly? If Dangote decides to shut down the refinery, would the unions even have a say? Both sides should find a way to accommodate each other, but let’s be honest—Dangote holds both the knife and the cake in this situation.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]A large number of Nigerians are very ignorant.

Someone is protecting the staff, they are complaining.

I never see these kind of daftness before.[/color]

nlfpmod:
https://punchng.com/pengassan-dangote-reconciliation-meeting-ends-in-deadlock/

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So Shell, Seplat, 11Plc, Chevron, and hundreds of foreign firms are not investors, abi?

You don't even know what side you're one.

Foreign investors will disappear if Unions exist, but all the foreign investors actually have the Unions. It's our own Nigerian brother that is scared of having it.

Some jokes write themselves, my guy[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]My brother.

Someone here said Dangote is fighting for his interest. Someone who is a businessman, who's primary goal is to minimize loss and maximize his profit, is fighting for your interest?

Na why Politicians and everybody dey use us play. The simplest form of education, we refuse to have.

If every company decides to be like Dangote, who will fight for the Workers interest? That's the question they can never answer.[/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So Shell, Seplat, 11Plc, Chevron, and hundreds of foreign firms are not investors, abi?

You don't even know what side you're one.

Foreign investors will disappear if Unions exist, but all the foreign investors actually have the Unions. It's our own Nigerian brother that is scared of having it.

Some jokes write themselves, my guy[/color]

lionshare:
I believe around 1.41 billion liters were consumed in August—dividing that by 30 gives the average daily consumption. Honestly, unionizing and layoffs are just symptoms of a deeper issue neither side wants to address. We need to understand what Dangote risks if unions are allowed, and what unions stand to gain. All the talk about workers’ welfare seems like an afterthought.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Anyone who has worked in a corporate environment will know that your employer cannot love you more than your Union.

The Nigerian law clearly stipulates workers to have a Union when their strength exceeds a minimum number

But because Dangote is the first man, and first oil company to exist on earth, we should burn the Nigerian constitution.

No wonder Chinese and Indian firms don't take us seriously. Anything goes in Nigeria.[/color]

P1PrinceKT:
The Constitution gave them free will to join any Union if they wish, ... Saying that they can not be forced to join neither denied their right to join if they wish. But Dangote did not want that. Which if you use a common sense he is denying the thier right to unionism which is against the law.
Pengassan is telling you that Dangote broke the law which in the future will affect the industry. And the welfare of Nigerians.

P1PrinceKT:
Your reasons might not be 100% correct. However, people that work
In his cement industry can tell you more... On how he treats workers.
Lastly Dangote sacked those employees not because they're wicked (Nigerians) but because they joined the Workers Union. Had it been they did not. He would still work with them no matter how wicked they're!.

ogascomax:
When you guys always say PENGASSAN should build her own refinery I just wonder the level of ignorant people like you are. Is PENGASSAN not a combination of all the oil companies in Nigeria. NNPC, Shell, Chevron, Mobil, Total, NLNG etc. the staffs of all those companies made up PENGASSAN. Then which one is that they should build their own refinery.

LibertyRep:
The DSS should be tackling this as a form of economic sabotage, reasonable felony, economic terrorism and an intent to incite the public.

None of them should leave that meeting until the issue is resolved

How can a group of people decide to hold the entire nation to ransom.?

Nonsense and ingredients.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Your comment reeks of serious, gross ignorance

The Nigerian labour law compels him to have a Union. You think PENGASSAN woke up and picked on him?

All Oil companies in Nigeria have a Union for its staff. It's a Labour law in Nigeria. PENGASSAN did not write the law. Nigeria did.

So he either forms that Union, or follows your advice to sell it off. Shebi he has yam and knife?[/color]

Anniwil:
As per your data would be nice to quote the source cos I believe there is difficulty harmonizing the data. I agree there are deeper issues ,and in my opinion it relates to government,policies and the need to do what is right. As per unionizing, I think Dangote doesn’t want disruption to his business in
any guise, there are many disruptive factors apart from Union,in my view,the Union can provide some competitive advantage .I have witnessed first hand,in upstream business was it 2015 when oil price was at about $25 ,where Pengassan in an IOC introduced a cost-saving Initiative by sharing deck spaces for different routes/ ship,this was implemented and the model still in use in that IOC.If given the opportunity,beyond,strikes,salaries and increases which I feel is what Dangote thinks unionizing of its workers will bring,PENGASSAN is indeed a force for positive change and sustainable growth.He should just look at the brighter side

Manny21:
Saboteurs. The real Pengassan are not the people sacked by Dangote. They are the stinkingly rich labour leaders who sit under ac and whose pot of soup will be thrown away. They are the actual enemies of the people. Dangote as a company protects the welfare of his workers better that these wolves and wild beasts. They will never go on strike over hunger, insecurity and inadiquate minimum wage. They would prefer to go on strike to punish millions and cause fuel scarcity.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Please nau. Stop embarrassing yourself

ASUU means Academic Staff Union of Universities. Show me where Students are part of ASUU?

Stop please. Go and understand what Worker's Union is, and then come back and edit your comment.[/color]

Almunjid:
Given your disagreement with the idea that PENGASSAN should construct its own refinery, you might consider an alternative course of action: building your own refinery and allowing all your employees to become members of PENGASSAN. What do you think?

ogascomax:
Shell, Chevron and the rest that allowed their members to join are they dead now. What is Dangote afraid of? A big refinery like that should be under supervision otherwise they will frustrate workers as they have done to many already.
My small company pays more than Dangote pays most of his Nigeria staffs.

lionshare:
Protecting who, exactly? If Dangote decides to shut down the refinery, would the unions even have a say? Both sides should find a way to accommodate each other, but let’s be honest—Dangote holds both the knife and the cake in this situation.

mployer:
Those are criminal foreign companies drilling and selling your resources. They can afford to feed pengassen fat as an accomplice in their crime.

Dangote is in pure business, directly subject to market forces, he can't afford that.

Almunjid:
Was the union established by Dangote's workers or by external influences? The situation mirrors that of ASUU, which once claimed to be fighting for the rights of Nigerian students, similar to these external forces professing to advocate for Dangote's workers.

Peace!

ayindejimmy:
Which Nigerian workers are replaced by Indians ? Do you think there are no laws that states the number of foreigners that can work in a company in Nigeria.
The Union just want to be in a position to call the shots at Dangote Refinery. Why must everyone join there Union? Can't Dangote staff form there own union. So they want to force workers on Dangote Refinery ba? The Dangote Refinery knows whats best for them and they should be allowedd to employ and sack whomever they want. If you want to work at the Refinery, you must obey their rules

12inchess:
Imagine having equal votes with someone with this kind of thinking. Many Nigerians go to school but are uneducated. A workers union is meant to protect the rights of workers in the union and is recognized by our labor laws and not to build refineries. Nigerians are so used to being mistreated at work that they can't even phantom that they should have rights to fair treatment.

Feelsgood:
What are you even saying? Pls, don't embarrass your education publicly. Haba!

ayindejimmy:
The preservation of Fundamental human right is even above the constitution and it ensures freedom of association.
So you cant force union upons anybody - it's voluntary

Feelsgood:
You think he does? Well... let's see how he tries to maneuver over the union. It seems you guys don't know the strength of PENGASSAN.

Almunjid:
https://www.nairaland.com/8529630/ndume-tinubu-dont-mind-act

Ndume is of the same view too, stating that PENGASSAN "serves private interest rather than the public good." You may go and insult him too, since anyone who doesn't share the same opinion with you is either an ignorant person or embarrassing his education.