₦airaland Forum

chidiokay:
Lolzz! they are investors But we must acknowledge this are companies not even owned by one Person ..

or can You tell me the man that singlehande build shell or that one Man that will go down if Total go down, as Zenon oil is to otedola, Mobil is to

Like i said oil Mining is crucial to Nigeria economic heartbeat ... the mining sector is no under any threat or sabotage invest n go sell

But we are talking About the Refinery sector here, where All our govt have failed, a sector Investors are very skeptical about ... a sector that is a threat to Cabals cash out ... how dare you compare refineries with Mobile n Total that evil forest in igbo nollywood

Total, shell are under union, Fine buh in all there years of operation have you ever heard they record optimal production or efficiency ... do we meet our crude quota ... Naija factor who are these factor if no our humans

Feelsgood:
So Ndume is your benchmark for sound intelligent reasoning? Ndume that has always been a "career politician" without any meaningful impact on Nigerians. You need help seriously.

Almunjid:
Given your disagreement with the idea that PENGASSAN should construct its own refinery, you might consider an alternative course of action: building your own refinery and allowing all your employees to become members of PENGASSAN. What do you think?

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.

lionshare:
So far, both unions appear to make more noise than actual actions because they know they are in the wrong, which is why they can’t go to court, and as of today, they can’t even go on any strike again.

Almunjid:
Who serves as your benchmark, then? Nigeria's oil industry, including its companies and workers, is highly politicized. In such a complex environment, who is better equipped to decipher potential treachery than a politician? By the way, I made this comment before seeing Ndume's statement, simply trying to remind you and others that not everyone who claims to be protecting you genuinely cares.

Peace!

ayindejimmy:
Which Nigerian workers are replaced by Indians ? Do you think there are no laws that states the number of foreigners that can work in a company in Nigeria.
The Union just want to be in a position to call the shots at Dangote Refinery. Why must everyone join there Union? Can't Dangote staff form there own union. So they want to force workers on Dangote Refinery ba? The Dangote Refinery knows whats best for them and they should be allowedd to employ and sack whomever they want. If you want to work at the Refinery, you must obey their rules

Feelsgood:
A Nigerian politician will help you solve your problems he created for you? They think and reason before you type things here it's really embarrassing. You have sound technocrats but would rather prefer unscrupulous politicians.

lionshare:
While it’s clear that you lean in favor of PENGASSAN and NUPENG, I truly appreciate the respectful tone and the thoughtfulness of your arguments. I agree that unions can indeed be valuable partners in progress—especially when their core interests are genuinely at stake.

That said, I personally don’t believe Dangote is primarily concerned about salaries or worker welfare—perhaps about the potential for strikes. Even then, that alone doesn’t justify an outright
rejection of unionization. It feels like there’s more
U r right indeed,more often than not in 9ja,there’s more than meets the eye.
My take from a very little fact finding on why it took a year after for all this is because the guys there have endured some harsh conditions and it is even rumored that they had to buy PPE in some cases,so they all resorted to unionise and were unequivocal about their desire to join PENGASSAN after their management asked each of them following receipt of PENGASSAN’s request for commencement of check-off dues.
It is indeed a coincidence that this happened about the same time as CNG trucks and all but I understand that PENGASSAN sent the Mgt a check-off dues request about a week ago.
Some things like you infer are more than meets the eye.
However Pengassan is fighting for its workers and not against Dangote.

to this story—something both parties are deliberately withholding from the public. Unfortunately, whatever that is seems to reflect poorly on both sides, particularly the unions.

It’s also worth noting: the refinery has been operational for over a year—so why now? Why is this surfacing just as Dangote begins direct distribution using his CNG trucks, which reportedly cut transport costs by about 40% compared to existing alternatives? Did salaries and working conditions suddenly become intolerable?

We need to look beyond the surface and resist the pull of emotionally charged narratives. There’s more here than meets the eye.

https://punchng.com/1-4-billion-litres-of-petrol-supplied-in-june-nmdpra/

Feelsgood:
A Nigerian politician will help you solve your problems he created for you? They think and reason before you type things here it's really embarrassing. You have sound technocrats but would rather prefer unscrupulous politicians.

xxxx999jon:
BS..even in banks and some blue chips companies ones you join a Union your as told to go..where you are very free to do your union thing is government work places or PLCs that's public quoted company..if Dongote refinary goes down today it's on Dangote head not the union executive..they should go and strike at the moribund refineries..now they have become a security threat to the Nation ..it needs to be proscribed...there is other laws protecting Nigerian workers ..not this leech's..the one I hate most is Nurtw... nonsense union .

Almunjid:
I don't understand your thought process, but you really need to improve. I mentioned that Nigeria's oil industry, including its companies and workers, is highly politicized. You asked if a politician serves as my benchmark, to which I retort: who is your benchmark, then? You suggested technocrats, but can they effectively navigate the politics in our oil industry? Dangote understands these dynamics and is engaging with them accordingly. If you don't comprehend what's happening, it's better to read and move on instead of engaging in discussions without adequate knowledge. By the way, I dislike conversing with immature individuals who quickly resort to insults when encountering differing opinions. Nonetheless, I appreciate your time.

Shalom!

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.

adekolaelect:
Stop justifying impunity . The workers joint the union without the approval of their employers and you expect Dangote to sit down dey look them with honey face. Where and Who are the workers without their employer? You are here proving unnecessary sentimental claims in support of the useless workers that can't do anything than to rely on what the company bring to their table monthly. If you establish your own company allow unionsim to control your workers and see what will be the history of your company.

xxxx999jon:
BS..even in banks and some blue chips companies ones you join a Union your as told to go..where you are very free to do your union thing is government work places or PLCs that's public quoted company..if Dongote refinary goes down today it's on Dangote head not the union executive..they should go and strike at the moribund refineries..now they have become a security threat to the Nation ..it needs to be proscribed...there is other laws protecting Nigerian workers ..not this leech's..the one I hate most is Nurtw... nonsense union .

P1PrinceKT:
If they joined without his approval then he also doesn't have the power to sack them based on that. He should have seek redress in court. Sacking them because of that is violating the rule of law.

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.

sevenhundred:
if your employer do not want you to join a union you can resign and join the union of your choice, then ask the union to give you a job.

adekolaelect:
Can you see how you sound " The employers don't have power to sack or Transfer her workers when there is need ? The employer should go to court of law before taking decisions on the workers She Employed ? Oga you no try at all . Oga you can't Treat private sectors the way of the government entities . Your opinions is the reason NNPC Revinaries, Stell mills and other government entities are not productive in Nigeria .

P1PrinceKT:
Pengassan is protecting Nigerian workers fired by Dangote and replaced them with Indians Which you might probably have been among them. Unfortunately you keep blind eye to the evil because it's not your concern. At the same time showing ignorance of the law that protects workers rights to join any Union of their choice.

Hedonisco:
If workers have a right to join any Union of their choice, private businesses like Dangote also have the right to hire, fire replace and substitute any workers with any employees of their choice. This should be common sense.

Stop feeling so entitled with another man's business.

Minjim:
I'm sorry but Emefiele is a sound technocrat

P1PrinceKT:
This is your opinion or what is happening on ground. Not what rule of law says... So if I sue you to court based on that, the law will definitely favor me

Anniwil:
While I don’t know much about the banks and all,I can say that maybe because of the scale of investments in the O&G sector,most players would like to play by the rules and carry stakeholders (unions,govt agencies,communities,NGO’s etc) along in the entire processes.
Am not sure Dangote alone is gonna bear the brunt as am sure govt has a % stake,though small.
For moribund refineries,it’s on record that successive presidents of PENGASSAN from Babatunde Ogun to Esele to Late FO Johnson have always advocated the privatization of the old refineries,the only thing they did not do was to shutdown the country for that.Infaact lately,strong advocacy to restructure the refineries to the same NLNG partnership model has been made,but the bulk is at the President’s table.
About being a security threat ,hmmm, what I fear most is a private individual in full control of a segment of energy sector especiallly if he’s not the Government:this is a personal view and not PENGASSAN or NUPENG position.
In any case,the issue here is the sack of at least 800 Nigerians due to them joining an Association,the real security threats are the bandits,armed robbers ,kidnappers whose robbery activities led to the loss of a promising Nigerian - Arise TV reporter - Maduagwu
If private corporations that have benefited from Nigeria keeps sacking 800 workers every week,I assure you many more deaths like maduagwu’s will occur - that is the real security threat and not PENGASSAN asking for recall of its sacked members

xxxx999jon:
what exactly are you saying..cos I can't comprehend whatever you wrote there .